- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
|
LethalAffinity posted...
I think Sargon makes a lot of interesting videos but he's borderline obsessed with Anita at this point. Like he wouldn't stop talking about her on Joe Rogan's podcast for almost half an hour.. What are you talking about? He hasn't talked about her for months. In fact I can't even remember the last time he talked about her as for Joe Rogan this was withing the last few days right if so then it's just topical because of what happened.
Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man. |
|
EbonTitanium posted...
Trolls like TC make me very glad to admit that I am a Gamergater. How thick is your neckbeard? |
|
EbonTitanium posted...
SilvosForever posted...EbonTitanium posted...Trolls like TC make me very glad to admit that I am a Gamergater. How do you feel about your peers sending death threats, etc. to feminists, both through the internet and to their homes? |
|
SilvosForever posted...
How do you feel about your peers sending death threats, etc. to feminists, both through the internet and to their homes? How do you feel about the FBI concluding their investigation into Gamergate proving the opposite?
Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man. |
|
SilvosForever posted...
EbonTitanium posted...SilvosForever posted...EbonTitanium posted...Trolls like TC make me very glad to admit that I am a Gamergater. The fact that it's a very small group of people not connected to Gamergate.
I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist.
|
|
Banana_Cyanide posted...
SilvosForever posted...How do you feel about your peers sending death threats, etc. to feminists, both through the internet and to their homes? How dare you throw facts at a troll! |
|
Banana_Cyanide posted...
SilvosForever posted...How do you feel about your peers sending death threats, etc. to feminists, both through the internet and to their homes? On October 14, 2014, Sarkeesian and Utah State University received terrorist threats pertaining to her planned lecture at the university the following day. The threats, one of which was issued by a person who claimed to be affiliated with Gamergate,[49] specifically cited the 1989 École Polytechnique massacre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada as inspiration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Sarkeesian Citations are included in there. |
|
SilvosForever posted...
On October 14, 2014, Sarkeesian and Utah State University received terrorist threats pertaining to her planned lecture at the university the following day. The threats, one of which was issued by a person who claimed to be affiliated with Gamergate,[49] specifically cited the 1989 École Polytechnique massacre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada as inspiration. But was it ever proven that he was apart of Gamergate? Yes this is important otherwise you still have nothing.
Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man. |
|
SilvosForever posted...
Banana_Cyanide posted...SilvosForever posted...How do you feel about your peers sending death threats, etc. to feminists, both through the internet and to their homes? https://vault.fbi.gov/gamergate "To date, all available investigative steps failed to identify any subjects or actionable leads." "It is requested that this investigation be administratively closed due to lack of leads" Citations are included in there.
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
|
|
Romulox28 posted...
i heard sargon for the first time like two days ago on joe rogan's podcast and he did sound like a complete moron This. Never heard of him before. He seems like a pompous douche who thinks he's the s***. Don't think i'm supportive of Sarkeesian. Anita is a drama queen and spews garbage as well. |
|
The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story. I mean for gods sake these guys are not BLM or that "anti-facism" group that for some reason like to physically attack people.
I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face.
|
|
HiddenLurker posted...
I mean for gods sake these guys are not BLM or that "anti-facism" group that for some reason like to physically attack people. A Sargon fan randomly attacking BLM who would have guessed.
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
|
|
cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...I mean for gods sake these guys are not BLM or that "anti-facism" group that for some reason like to physically attack people. Jokes on you dude IDK even know who Sargon is. What I do know is that there are elements in the two groups I mentioned that have commited violence in the name of their cause.
I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face.
|
|
HiddenLurker posted...
The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story. Bulls***. That guy didn't organize his entourage to sit in the first three rows so they could sit there respectful and silent for the whole time, and you're an idiot if you thought otherwise. |
|
That_Happened posted...
HiddenLurker posted...The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story. What???
I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist.
|
|
That_Happened posted...
Bulls***. That guy didn't organize his entourage to sit in the first three rows so they could sit there respectful and silent for the whole time, and you're an idiot if you thought otherwise. and yet you have no evidence to prove this.
Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man. |
|
That_Happened posted...
HiddenLurker posted...The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story. Proof? I mean she did blow up on the guy the second she saw him. If she had continued with the panel and he in turn blew up at her it would have been a completly different story.
I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face.
|
|
That_Happened posted...
HiddenLurker posted...The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story. Until he actually does something other than site there silently, he has done nothing wrong. And we wont ever know, cause Anita went off on him before he even got to do anything. As of right now, she is clearly in the wrong.
The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board.
"You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." |
|
SilvosForever posted...
That still doesn't explain WHY in the world he would organize this ridiculous sit-in. People keep saying this but I haven't seen anything supporting it.
The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM |
|
HiddenLurker posted...
So would like to use that logic on other groups ?
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
|
|
So this is what happened?
Dude constantly berates lady he disagrees with, finds out she's holding an event from what i know is about anti bullying, guy sets up event to fill up seats in the front row for no reason other than to stick it to her. Lady finds out and stands up for herself and people are mad at her? I'm not Anita's biggest fan and i disagree with her a lot but this is much different than the first reports of her attacking him unprovoked.
The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench.
Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. |
|
I4NRulez posted...
So this is what happened? The latter part has no evidence to support it other than he is a douchebag, which he is, and therefore that must have been his plan all along. Even though they guy didn't even heckle her or at that point in time do anything to her other than going to see her panel. On a panel where she was apparently talking about bullying, she goes off on a guy and calls him garbage. Which goes against all the rules at Vidcon.
The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board.
"You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." |
|
LightHawKnight posted...
On a panel where she was apparently talking about bullying, she goes off on a guy and calls him garbage. Which goes against all the rules at Vidcon. Doesn't go against the rules if you happen to be a successful professional victim as has recently been proven.
Immanentize the eschaton
|
|
I can't stand Anita but Sargon was on the Joe Rogan Podcast a few days ago and holy f*** is that man pathetic. Couldn't even watch the whole thing because he was just a big f***ing baby.
New York Mets | Syracuse Orange Basketball | Miami Dolphins | Miami Hurricanes Football
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/117/142/83d.gif |
|
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Yeah, Sargon is an intellectually dishonest scumbag. That's not to claim everything he says is wrong, but if you engage in a heated political discussion with an incentive being the sadistic pleasure of "trolling" or harassing others, you are part of the corrupted and rotting pillar that supports the vitriolic state of public discourse in our country right now. As illogical and inconsistent as Anita is (And her emotional maturity is about on par with Sargon), upsetting people does not seem to be an intended consequence of her actions and words. Sargon is at leaet partially driven by the pleasure of upsetting and offending people. /topic |
|
Unquestionable posted...
LightHawKnight posted...On a panel where she was apparently talking about bullying, she goes off on a guy and calls him garbage. Which goes against all the rules at Vidcon. This, Anita is a lying scumbag. |
|
I can't believe people are stupid enough to defend Sarkeesian still. She absolutely deserves people s***ting on her girls only parade. There is nobody more toxic who claims to be a feminist.
Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether |
|
Skasa posted...
Feminism is a lie made to strip men of their natural rights. Who's alt is this?
The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM |
|
it would be cool if both anita & sargon f***ed off for good & i never had to hear about either of them ever again
|
|
SwatterXX posted...
Romulox28 posted...i heard sargon for the first time like two days ago on joe rogan's podcast and he did sound like a complete moron Yup. Sargon is a bundle of barely concealed narcissism and self-masturbatory ranting. Just because he beats up on irrational radfems (It's easy to be "right" when your opponent is so self-defeating) does not mean he is an authority on these issues. I don't want any of my posts in this topic to be construed as support for Anita, though. I think both Anita and Sargon display dangerous disregard for civility and reasoning in there statements. Saying Sargon acted like an antagonistic troll here (The most traditional meaning of trolling, as well--Figuratively trolling the waters of VidCon after baiting Anita for years and hoping for her to bite and say something emotional and stupid) is not to say Anita's response was appropriate (Though somewhat understandable). Neither of them have the intellect and integrity to lead this debate on the national stage, yet here we are. tl;dr: Both are bad but for different reasons.
// BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT //
http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 |
|
Who even defends her. GTFO. Sargon bodied her.
|
|
To be fair though speaking against sarkisian only makes Sargon look good, regardless of whether he is or not.
Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether |
|
Good grief this is stupid. Morons like Sargon want Anita to stick around. Otherwise he has to find other stuff to get outraged over.
If you support s***ty 'trolling' like this you're just ensuring this garbage sticks around. Sarkeesian's stuff has barely even been relevant for the last year or so. She could have just had her panel in peace and nobody here would have cared. But nope.
Kind Regards,
Darmik |
- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
Darmik posted...Sarkeesian's stuff has barely even been relevant for the last year or so. She could have just had her panel in peace and nobody here would have cared. But nope.
Unfortunately not true. Give sexists a safe space and they will conspire to destroy society, much like any other radical fringe group. Imagine if it was the KKK and a bunch of narcissistic black guys crashed the party.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherP4wn4g3 posted...Darmik posted...
Sarkeesian's stuff has barely even been relevant for the last year or so. She could have just had her panel in peace and nobody here would have cared. But nope.
Unfortunately not true. Give sexists a safe space and they will conspire to destroy society, much like any other radical fringe group. Imagine if it was the KKK and a bunch of narcissistic black guys crashed the party.
Sure. Criticizing a video game for being sexist is just like burning a cross on someone's front lawn.Kind Regards,
DarmikBanana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
Sure. Criticizing a video game for being sexist is just like burning a cross on someone's front lawn.
You sure have gone off the deep end.
If making a bunch of YouTube videos and calling some troll a garbage human is what fringe extremist groups do nowadays we've got it pretty good.
Unfortunately that's not true so the comparison was silly.Kind Regards,
Darmiksargon is the definition of a nitwithttp://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif
"Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?"Darmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sarkeesian's stuff has barely even been relevant for the last year or so. She could have just had her panel in peace and nobody here would have cared. But nope.
Unfortunately not true. Give sexists a safe space and they will conspire to destroy society, much like any other radical fringe group. Imagine if it was the KKK and a bunch of narcissistic black guys crashed the party.
Sure. Criticizing a video game for being sexist is just like burning a cross on someone's front lawn.
Except what they are actually doing is making a safe space for sexists. There are very few valid sexist arguments to be made in gaming, and none of those have ever come from Anita's crazed lunacy camp.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherP4wn4g3 posted...Except what they are actually doing is making a safe space for sexists. There are very few valid sexist arguments to be made in gaming, and none of those have ever come from Anita's crazed lunacy camp.
If there aren't any valid arguments to be made what are you so worried about? Let them have their panel in peace. There are panels for all sorts of things. Many of which you won't agree with or comprehend.Kind Regards,
Darmikcjsdowg posted...HiddenLurker posted...
Jokes on you dude IDK even know who Sargon is.
What I do know is that there are elements in the two groups I mentioned that have commited violence in the name of their cause.
So would like to use that logic on other groups ?
Certainly. I will sit here and wait for your proof that this guy's supporters have violent elements in them.I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face.Darmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Except what they are actually doing is making a safe space for sexists. There are very few valid sexist arguments to be made in gaming, and none of those have ever come from Anita's crazed lunacy camp.
If there aren't any valid arguments to be made what are you so worried about? Let them have their panel in peace. There are panels for all sorts of things. Many of which you won't agree with or comprehend.
...It was in peace.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMDarmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Except what they are actually doing is making a safe space for sexists. There are very few valid sexist arguments to be made in gaming, and none of those have ever come from Anita's crazed lunacy camp.
If there aren't any valid arguments to be made what are you so worried about? Let them have their panel in peace. There are panels for all sorts of things. Many of which you won't agree with or comprehend.
Because these crazy f***ers will manage to poison the uninformed rumor mill with their rhetoric and thus gain some foothold for sexism. Same reason you wouldn't want Trump doing exactly this with various alternative motives, or really any politician for that matter. Keep s*** above ground and tolerable for large portions of the population.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherDarmik posted...Unfortunately that's not true so the comparison was silly.
I think I might have misread the situation then.
Also there's something I've been meaning to ask: Have you actually watched any of Sargon's videos? Like actually consistently watched them? Because I'm noticing a theme from people who claim that all Sargon talks about is Anita and feminism to the point of obsession.Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man.dave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Except what they are actually doing is making a safe space for sexists. There are very few valid sexist arguments to be made in gaming, and none of those have ever come from Anita's crazed lunacy camp.
If there aren't any valid arguments to be made what are you so worried about? Let them have their panel in peace. There are panels for all sorts of things. Many of which you won't agree with or comprehend.
...It was in peace.
It was until a bunch of people took up three rows to troll. Which accomplished what exactly? Brought her back to the spotlight? Great job from Sargon there.
P4wn4g3 posted...Because these crazy f***ers will manage to poison the uninformed rumor mill with their rhetoric and thus gain some foothold for sexism. Same reason you wouldn't want Trump doing exactly this with various alternative motives, or really any politician for that matter. Keep s*** above ground and tolerable for large portions of the population.
I wouldn't want the President of the United States to hold a panel? Err no. Hell he holds damn rallies. That's fine.
Banana_Cyanide posted...Also there's something I've been meaning to ask: Have you actually watched any of Sargon's videos? Like actually consistently watched them? Because I'm noticing a theme from people who claim that all Sargon talks about is Anita and feminism to the point of obsession.
No I'm not interested. But clearly he gets a lot of exposure from this and wants figures like Anita to stick around. It's a part of internet outrage culture. This isn't limited to Sarkeesian or video games.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...No I'm not interested. But clearly he gets a lot of exposure from this and wants figures like Anita to stick around. It's a part of internet outrage culture. This isn't limited to Sarkeesian or video games.
What evidence do you have to support this?Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man.Darmik posted...It was until a bunch of people took up three rows to troll.
Again, people claim this but where's the proof?The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMBanana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
No I'm not interested. But clearly he gets a lot of exposure from this and wants figures like Anita to stick around. It's a part of internet outrage culture. This isn't limited to Sarkeesian or video games.
What evidence do you have to support this?
The story in the OP?Kind Regards,
Darmikdave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...
It was until a bunch of people took up three rows to troll.
Again, people claim this but where's the proof?Dave Cullen lounges on what appears to be a bed in a hotel room, pointing a camera at himself. He looks tired and slightly pleased with himself. He is an ally of Benjamin's, a fellow YouTuber who makes a full-time living feeding the internet’s appetite for masculine fear and hurt. His Patreon makes around $3,000 a month. His YouTube page has more than 240,000 subscribers.
He was there, he says, at the VidCon Sarkeesian session. As he speaks, he claims that the first three rows were taken up by allies. (These allies have co-opted an internet term of derision to describe themselves: s***lords. They are generally identified by their hostility to progressives and to "social justice warriors.")
“This is harassment, pure and simple.”
He goes on to talk about how these allies coordinated among themselves at the event. "We carefully organized this so that on one side of the audience we would all make up the top three rows,” he says. “We would all be sitting there filming it," he adds, before naming several allies. "Anita spoke. And they were asking about why is it important to still have women talking about sexism or some victim bulls*** in video games." He recounts Sarkeesian's comments.
He repeatedly claims the group is there to "engage" with Sarkeesian, but later, he says something very different.
"We had a blast with this. It was such an adrenaline high to be there in the situation, to s***-post, in this trolling kind of way." He goes on to claim there was "no malice" in their actions and that it was “playful.”
Is Cullen lying?Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Because these crazy f***ers will manage to poison the uninformed rumor mill with their rhetoric and thus gain some foothold for sexism. Same reason you wouldn't want Trump doing exactly this with various alternative motives, or really any politician for that matter. Keep s*** above ground and tolerable for large portions of the population.
I wouldn't want the President of the United States to hold a panel? Err no. Hell he holds damn rallies. That's fine.
Way to dodge my point. I know you got it. Obviously you have no counter. If you're the feminist the world needs then kick Anita off the stage and take up a more sane and balanced approach.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherDarmik posted...dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...
It was until a bunch of people took up three rows to troll.
Again, people claim this but where's the proof?Dave Cullen lounges on what appears to be a bed in a hotel room, pointing a camera at himself. He looks tired and slightly pleased with himself. He is an ally of Benjamin's, a fellow YouTuber who makes a full-time living feeding the internet’s appetite for masculine fear and hurt. His Patreon makes around $3,000 a month. His YouTube page has more than 240,000 subscribers.
He was there, he says, at the VidCon Sarkeesian session. As he speaks, he claims that the first three rows were taken up by allies. (These allies have co-opted an internet term of derision to describe themselves: s***lords. They are generally identified by their hostility to progressives and to "social justice warriors.")
“This is harassment, pure and simple.”
He goes on to talk about how these allies coordinated among themselves at the event. "We carefully organized this so that on one side of the audience we would all make up the top three rows,” he says. “We would all be sitting there filming it," he adds, before naming several allies. "Anita spoke. And they were asking about why is it important to still have women talking about sexism or some victim bulls*** in video games." He recounts Sarkeesian's comments.
He repeatedly claims the group is there to "engage" with Sarkeesian, but later, he says something very different.
"We had a blast with this. It was such an adrenaline high to be there in the situation, to s***-post, in this trolling kind of way." He goes on to claim there was "no malice" in their actions and that it was “playful.”
Is Cullen lying?
Could be. Or not. But nothing in there tells me they were planning on doing anything but sitting there.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMP4wn4g3 posted...Way to dodge my point. I know you got it. Obviously you have no counter. If you're the feminist the world needs then kick Anita off the stage and take up a more sane and balanced approach.
Err what am I dodging? Do you think Trump shouldn't be allowed to hold a panel?
dave_is_slick posted...Could be. Or not. But nothing in there tells me they were planning on doing anything but sitting there.
"We had a blast with this. It was such an adrenaline high to be there in the situation, to s***-post, in this trolling kind of way." He goes on to claim there was "no malice" in their actions and that it was “playful.”
Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Way to dodge my point. I know you got it. Obviously you have no counter. If you're the feminist the world needs then kick Anita off the stage and take up a more sane and balanced approach.
Err what am I dodging? Do you think Trump shouldn't be allowed to hold a panel?
When the attempt to derail gets to this point I either assume you are acting as obtuse as possible so you can try to claim your fragile ego is still intact, or you are actually too stupid to grasp the concept of the argument. Either way there is no point in taking this further because you either know you're wrong or you never will and should get off the topic either way.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherDarmik posted...dave_is_slick posted...
Could be. Or not. But nothing in there tells me they were planning on doing anything but sitting there.
"We had a blast with this. It was such an adrenaline high to be there in the situation, to s***-post, in this trolling kind of way." He goes on to claim there was "no malice" in their actions and that it was “playful.”
What part of that proves they were going to do something? Sure, you can troll by just being there. But they didn't do anything.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMDarmik posted...So is Dave Cullen lying?
I don't think he's lying I think that's just him being him since so far no one else who was there has said anything similar at least as far as I know and not everyone has given their opinion yet on what happened.Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man.P4wn4g3 posted...When the attempt to derail gets to this point I either assume you are acting as obtuse as possible so you can try to claim your fragile ego is still intact, or you are actually too stupid to grasp the concept of the argument. Either way there is no point in taking this further because you either know you're wrong or you never will and should get off the topic either way.
You said I wouldn't like if Trump did the same thing. Not sure why you would think that.
dave_is_slick posted...What part of that proves they were going to do something? Sure, you can troll by just being there. But they didn't do anything.
They took up the front three rows of her panel and were mockin. That's enough to be disruptive. In what other circumstance would your most vocal critics taking up the first three rows of a public appearance not be disruptive?On the front rows, Benjamin and his retinue rock back and forth, as if they are watching a comedy show. He yells back that he be allowed to debate with her.
C'mon now.Kind Regards,
DarmikBanana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
So is Dave Cullen lying?
I don't think he's lying I think that's just him being him since so far no one else who was there has said anything similar at least as far as I know and not everyone has given their opinion yet on what happened.
Him being him is lying?
Either they took up the three rows and did exactly what they set out to do.
Or it was just a couple of them and Cullen is lying.
So which is it?Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...C'mon now.
I thought this was confirmed as not happening.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMOn the minor topic of whatever trolling intent that Sargon may have had... Since Anita herself is an extraordinarily lowbrow troll, as evidenced by her oh so eloquent lambasting of the guy in the article, this would be more of a case of 2 a******s arguing. That's par for the course.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherDarmik posted...Him being him is lying?
f*** almighty...
No, Dave Cullen being Dave Cullen means that just because that's what he had in mind doesn't mean it's what everyone else (especially Sargon) had in mind.
Also who the f*** is Dave Cullen? This is literally the first time I've heard of him.Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man.SilvosForever posted...He goes on to claim there was "no malice" in their actions and that it was “playful.”
u heard it from the man himself, it was just a prank brosdave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...
C'mon now.
I thought this was confirmed as not happening.
So what were they doing in the front rows? Saying nothing?
They took over the first three rows on purpose. Why do you think that is? Again in what other circumstance would this not be disruptive?
Banana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
Him being him is lying?
f*** almighty...
No, Dave Cullen being Dave Cullen means that just because that's what he had in mind doesn't mean it's what everyone else (especially Sargon) had in mind.
Also who the f*** is Dave Cullen? This is literally the first time I've heard of him.
So what did Sargon have in mind? Weird that they'd both have different goals when they planned it together no?
Wait why are you saying "Oh Dave's just being Dave" if you've never heard of the guy?Kind Regards,
DarmikThey are both pieces of s***, more alike they either will care to admitBanana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
So what did Sargon have in mind?
What he said he was going to do.
This isn't exactly hard to figure out.
I'm not disagreeing that he got what he wanted. He got a response, an acknowledgment and a story. As I said in the original post;
Darmik posted...Good grief this is stupid. Morons like Sargon want Anita to stick around. Otherwise he has to find other stuff to get outraged over.
If you support s***ty 'trolling' like this you're just ensuring this garbage sticks around. Sarkeesian's stuff has barely even been relevant for the last year or so. She could have just had her panel in peace and nobody here would have cared. But nope.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...So what were they doing in the front rows? Saying nothing?
Yes, that is actually exactly what happened.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMdave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...
So what were they doing in the front rows? Saying nothing?
Yes, that is actually exactly what happened.
Generally people go to panels to ask questions related to the topic no?
Wouldn't it be better for people actually interested to sit in the front? And yet they made sure that they all got it first. I wonder why that is...Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Weird that they'd both have different goals when they planned it together no?
Wait why are you saying "Oh Dave's just being Dave" if you've never heard of the guy?
Did they plan it together?
and that's not how I said it so f*** off but aside from that I think I may have seen the video you mentioned but I'm not sure if it's him or not. Either way I'm admittedly just making a guess but as I said before considering that no one else who was there has said anything remotely similar to what he said leads me to believe that he was on a different page from EVERYONE ELSE.
The only thing I can say at this point is that dave being dave was a poor choice of words.Who knew bananas could be so lethal?
Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man.Webmaster4531 posted...Darmik posted...
Generally people go to panels to ask questions related to the topic no?
The last panel she refused to answer questions. They were troll questions but... yeah if sargon wasn't there someone worse could have been.
It's possible but it basically happened anyway. No idea what people get out of trolling like that. Well in this case it's Patreon money but still.Kind Regards,
DarmikBanana_Cyanide posted...Did they plan it together?
Well according to Dave yeahHe goes on to talk about how these allies coordinated among themselves at the event. "We carefully organized this so that on one side of the audience we would all make up the top three rows,” he says. “We would all be sitting there filming it," he adds, before naming several allies. "Anita spoke. And they were asking about why is it important to still have women talking about sexism or some victim bulls*** in video games." He recounts Sarkeesian's comments.
Pretty sure they did film it so wouldn't this match up? Generally you would need to try and coordinate for an entire group to take a whole section.
Banana_Cyanide posted...Darmik posted...
And yet they made sure that they all got it first. I wonder why that is...
Because no one else but them were interested at least according to Mundane Matt and two others.
That's a shame. If none of them went they would actually killed Sarkeesian's career because nobody would have turned up.
I'm guessing this wouldn't have actually happened though and it's just bulls***.Kind Regards,
DarmikI wouldn't even call Sargon's questions troll questions. He legit asked what the appropriate way to engage a feminist in a discussion was so he could engage in a debate on their terms without being accused of anything, and Anita cut off another panelist who started to answer."History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless WaltzDarmik posted...dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...
So what were they doing in the front rows? Saying nothing?
Yes, that is actually exactly what happened.
Generally people go to panels to ask questions related to the topic no?
Wouldn't it be better for people actually interested to sit in the front? And yet they made sure that they all got it first. I wonder why that is...
Well since nothing proves that they were there to actually do something, we'll never know. And as far as I'm aware, if you're on an anti-bullying panel, you don't engage in bullying behavior. Especially since, you know, they didn't do anything there.The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sMdave_is_slick posted...Well since nothing proves that they were there to actually do something, we'll never know. And as far as I'm aware, if you're on an anti-bullying panel, you don't engage in bullying behavior. Especially since, you know, they didn't do anything there.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDZfHOBXkAQ4TFB.jpg
lol.
But yeah insulting the guy was a mistake.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik just wants to bait someone into insulting him so he can justify being this wrong as "well look, they are all meaners so that means I'm right".
That's all I'm getting out of these exchanges. Just give him what he wants and treat him as a victim, because after all he's afflicted with a heavy case of denial if nothing else.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
s0nicfan posted...I wouldn't even call Sargon's questions troll questions. He legit asked what the appropriate way to engage a feminist in a discussion was so he could engage in a debate on their terms without being accused of anything, and Anita cut off another panelist who started to answer.
I was referring to the person who asked paraphrasing "Is anything you say real?"Ad Hominem.P4wn4g3 posted...Darmik just wants to bait someone into insulting him so he can justify being this wrong as "well look, they are all meaners so that means I'm right".
That's all I'm getting out of these exchanges. Just give him what he wants and treat him as a victim, because after all he's afflicted with a heavy case of denial if nothing else.
No. What I want is for panels like this to talk to their bubble and for other panels to talk to their bubbles in peace. People can have different opinions about things without intimidating and insulting others. YouTubers can have panels that interact with their fans and audience without others trying to crash it. That sounds great.
What I don't want is a bunch of lame ass YouTubers trying to a fight culture war by disrupting and insulting others in a desperate attempt to gain more supporters and patreon money.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Darmik just wants to bait someone into insulting him so he can justify being this wrong as "well look, they are all meaners so that means I'm right".
That's all I'm getting out of these exchanges. Just give him what he wants and treat him as a victim, because after all he's afflicted with a heavy case of denial if nothing else.
No. What I want is for panels like this to talk to their bubble and for other panels to talk to their bubbles in peace. People can have different opinions about things without intimidating and insulting others. YouTubers can have panels that interact with their fans and audience without others trying to crash it. That sounds great.
What I don't want is a bunch of lame ass YouTubers trying to a fight culture war by disrupting and insulting others in a desperate attempt to gain more supporters and patreon money.
The difference here is the underlying intent. For example who would want a KKK "panel" to be public except for people they don't agree with because f*** those guys.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherSilvosForever posted...GregShmedley posted...
Nah, f*** that.
Anita Sarkeesian is an overdramatic con artist.
Does it bother you that Women ARE poorly represented in video games?
Thats not what shes outto do. She made it clear when talking with boogie. She wants people angry. Its what get her attention.P4wn4g3 posted...The difference here is the underlying intent. For example who would want a KKK "panel" to be public except for people they don't agree with because f*** those guys.
Comparing them to the KKK seems a bit silly. They're a hate group.
Comparing it to a Sargon/Alt-right panel is more valid.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
The difference here is the underlying intent. For example who would want a KKK "panel" to be public except for people they don't agree with because f*** those guys.
Comparing them to the KKK seems a bit silly. They're a hate group.
Comparing it to a Sargon/Alt-right panel is more valid.
Actually I think a much better comparison would be neonazis. No actions that are officially hate crimes, a clear political and racial (or in this case sexual) agenda, and polarizing narcissists at the top of the organization. Oh sure we can let them gain power and influence, but is that really in anyone's best interests? Much better to have a critical eye on these people imo.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherWebmaster4531 posted...Howl posted...
How TF are people still defending her?
TC was a troll. I have no idea what's wrong with Darmik besides being stubborn.
he'll defend females at all costs, even when they advocate legalizing child porn.P4wn4g3 posted...Actually I think a much better comparison would be neonazis. No actions that are officially hate crimes, a clear political and racial (or in this case sexual) agenda, and polarizing narcissists at the top of the organization. Oh sure we can let them gain power and influence, but is that really in anyone's best interests? Much better to have a critical eye on these people imo.
Neo-Nazi's don't do actions that are considered hate crimes...?
Ooookay
Xeno14 posted...Webmaster4531 posted...
Howl posted...
How TF are people still defending her?
TC was a troll. I have no idea what's wrong with Darmik besides being stubborn.
he'll defend females at all costs, even when they advocate legalizing child porn.
I haven't defended Anita at all in this topic but whatever floats your boat.
I just think she should be allowed to have her panel without this crap. It goes vice versa too. Protesting and disrupting the Milo Yiannopoulos talks accomplished f*** all outside of giving him more notoriety.Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Neo-Nazi's don't do actions that are considered hate crimes...?
Ooookay
More in the sense that aside from the actual gangs and s***, I haven't heard of any neonazi organization laying claim to having organized hate crimes like the KKK. I'm trying to meet you halfway here. If that doesn't work for you then just remove the part where the organization actually goes out and does hate crimes.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherP4wn4g3 posted...Darmik posted...
Neo-Nazi's don't do actions that are considered hate crimes...?
Ooookay
More in the sense that aside from the actual gangs and s***, I haven't heard of any neonazi organization laying claim to having organized hate crimes like the KKK. I'm trying to meet you halfway here. If that doesn't work for you then just remove the part where the organization actually goes out and does hate crimes.
I already used a valid comparison. Neo-Nazi's are a hate group. They're not a political movement or a group that spends their time criticizing a medium.
Hell go with Gamergate if you want. Gamergate should be allowed to host a panel if they're not breaking any laws during that panel.Kind Regards,
DarmikFine, the alt right with Steve bannon presiding. The problem then is Anita and co seem too much like a hate group.Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aetherI haven't watched a lot of Anita Sarkeesian's videos, but I think she has a valuable voice and perspective, and that many, if not most of her loudest critics are motivated by genuine hate and human ugliness. (Sargon of Akkad included.) ...His presence at this panel doesn't strike me as benign.LightHawKnight posted...That_Happened posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
The funny thing about all this is if Anita had not blew up at the guy this would have been a non-story.
Bulls***. That guy didn't organize his entourage to sit in the first three rows so they could sit there respectful and silent for the whole time, and you're an idiot if you thought otherwise.
Until he actually does something other than site there silently,
He made video after video trashing her, photo shopping pictures of her, calling her names, saying she's a cancer, etc. And then he staged a sit in so he and his buddies could take up the first 3 rows at the panel she was on, and film her.
Oh wait, this is CE, where some of you think the internet isn't real life.
EDIT: Never mind. People already covered this and they did it far better. So I'll repeat what I said earlier: they're both human garbage, f*** them both up their stupid asses.Funny that the more she has these b****y breakdowns the more people will see through her bulls***.Darmik posted...P4wn4g3 posted...
Darmik posted...
Neo-Nazi's don't do actions that are considered hate crimes...?
Ooookay
More in the sense that aside from the actual gangs and s***, I haven't heard of any neonazi organization laying claim to having organized hate crimes like the KKK. I'm trying to meet you halfway here. If that doesn't work for you then just remove the part where the organization actually goes out and does hate crimes.
I already used a valid comparison. Neo-Nazi's are a hate group. They're not a political movement or a group that spends their time criticizing a medium.
Hell go with Gamergate if you want. Gamergate should be allowed to host a panel if they're not breaking any laws during that panel.
Gamergate has tried to hold panels at conventions several times. They're typically cancelled because anti-gamergate folks protest, threaten to raise a public stink, etc. They don't want to allow Gamergate a public platform.TC is a pathetic leftist shill. And Polygon is garbage.FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://i.imgur.com/LJ3WSyB.gifEsrac posted...Gamergate has tried to hold panels at conventions several times. They're typically cancelled because anti-gamergate folks protest, threaten to raise a public stink, etc. They don't want to allow Gamergate a public platform.
And it accomplishes nothing and just adds to the s*** pile just like this did.Kind Regards,
Darmikcjsdowg posted...It is funny all these rich upper middle class people getting richer by acting like they are the victims of the "system".
Seriously... Apparently they're "fighting" for things like diversity, but you don't tend to see much of that in their personal circles...Life is a dream wrapped in a convenient lie.SilvosForever posted...GregShmedley posted...
Nah, f*** that.
Anita Sarkeesian is an overdramatic con artist.
Does it bother you that Women ARE poorly represented in video games?
They really arent. There are plenty of example badass and powerful women throughout VG history. Most games these days that let you create or choose characters have viable female options. Most party-based games have strong female characters as well.
I'm really interested to see how you can really come to the conclusion they are poorly represented because I can rattle off scores of examples that indicate they really aren't.No one sings like you anymoreWaterLink posted...SilvosForever posted...
GregShmedley posted...
Nah, f*** that.
Anita Sarkeesian is an overdramatic con artist.
Does it bother you that Women ARE poorly represented in video games?
They really arent. There are plenty of example badass and powerful women throughout VG history. Most games these days that let you create or choose characters have viable female options. Most party-based games have strong female characters as well.
I'm really interested to see how you can really come to the conclusion they are poorly represented because I can rattle off scores of examples that indicate they really aren't.
Yeah I like how she completely avoided JRPG female characters like Terra in her videos.woofHowl posted...
Yeah I like how she completely avoided JRPG female characters like Terra in her videos.
I personally hope she stays away from Japanese games. Have you seem some of the odd s*** that they have on Steam. IBender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?SilvosForever posted...StarReaper13 posted...
Wasn't she on a panel that was against bullying, only for her to attack him verbally? Just wondering.
In response to him organizing sit-ins of the first 3 rows of the panel, and effectively BEING bullied. Intimidation tactics.
Uh... nothing was done to 'bully' her at the panel. He criticized her; not bullied. SHE was 'bullying' him by calling him a 'garbage human.' You can disagree with someone; but when you sink to insults, you have a problem.--- MaverickXeo ---Howl posted...Yeah I like how she completely avoided JRPG female characters like Terra in her videos.
Not even that. Samus. Lara Croft. Jill Valentine. Elena Fisher. Ellie. Cortana. The Sirens in borderlands are probably the best builds (imo). Mass Effect let you be a female Shepard. Fighting games have solid females to choose from. Pretty much any game that lets you customize your character gives you female options.
Then yeah, there's the JRPG genre filled with great female leads and supports.No one sings like you anymoreWaterLink posted...Howl posted...
Yeah I like how she completely avoided JRPG female characters like Terra in her videos.
Not even that. Samus. Lara Croft. Jill Valentine. Elena Fisher. Ellie. Cortana. The Sirens in borderlands are probably the best builds (imo). Mass Effect let you be a female Shepard. Fighting games have solid females to choose from. Pretty much any game that lets you customize your character gives you female options.
Then yeah, there's the JRPG genre filled with great female leads and supports.
Japans views on women are anything but, progressive. Women want more then just a generic action figure-they want a woman that has womanly issues and isn't needlessly sexualized. But, gamers whine and complain whenever the industry listens to feedback and makes their games more inclusive.Now Watching: Rome
Now Playing: Fallout 4 for the Xth timeCurzonDax posted...Japans views on women are anything but, progressive. Women want more then just a generic action figure-they want a woman that has womanly issues and isn't needlessly sexualized. But, gamers whine and complain whenever the industry listens to feedback and makes their games more inclusive.
What womanly issues are you talking about here? Most VG characters are just your avatar going through the game. And male characters are sexualized and animated to ridiculous and unrealistic proportions all the time too.
You're talking about Japan's view of women. I wasn't talking about that. We're talking about the games. Was Yuna and her crew, and Terra and Lyndis in their games, just to throw out a few, not progressive enough for you?No one sings like you anymoreWaterLink posted...Howl posted...
Yeah I like how she completely avoided JRPG female characters like Terra in her videos.
Not even that. Samus. Lara Croft. Jill Valentine. Elena Fisher. Ellie. Cortana. The Sirens in borderlands are probably the best builds (imo). Mass Effect let you be a female Shepard. Fighting games have solid females to choose from. Pretty much any game that lets you customize your character gives you female options.
Then yeah, there's the JRPG genre filled with great female leads and supports.
I like to cite Lenneth Valkyrie.WaterLink posted...You're talking about Japan's view of women. I wasn't talking about that. We're talking about the games. Was Yuna and her crew, and Terra and Lyndis in their games, just to throw out a few, not progressive enough for you?
Okay I am really not taking an stance on the overall progressiveness on women in general when it comes to video games.
But really the all female leads in FFX-2 got their powers by changing what they wore, and Yuna was doing all of that to win a man back.Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?cjsdowg posted...But really the all female leads in FFX-2 got their powers by changing what they wore, and Yuna was doing all of that to win a man back.
That's typically how RPGs work bro. New equipment makes you better.
And male character going through the game to win a woman = sexist towards women
Female character going through the game to win a man = .....still sexist towards women?No one sings like you anymoreWaterLink posted...That's typically how RPGs work bro. New equipment makes you better.
And male character going through the game to win a woman = sexist towards women
Female character going through the game to win a man = .....still sexist towards women?
I played a lot of a RPGs before, and most time getting new things just change your stats. The mechanics used in FFX-2 were atypical.Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?cjsdowg posted...WaterLink posted...
That's typically how RPGs work bro. New equipment makes you better.
And male character going through the game to win a woman = sexist towards women
Female character going through the game to win a man = .....still sexist towards women?
I played a lot of a RPGs before, and most time getting new things just change your stats. The mechanics used in FFX-2 were atypical.
To be fair, all Final Fantasy games with job systems could be described as "get new abilities by changing their clothes". 3, 5, Tactics (for non-unique party members), etc.MaverickXeo posted...SHE was 'bullying' him by calling him a 'garbage human.' You can disagree with someone; but when you sink to insults, you have a problem.
Pretty sure he's repeatedly insulted her in his videos, buddy.That_Happened posted...MaverickXeo posted...
SHE was 'bullying' him by calling him a 'garbage human.' You can disagree with someone; but when you sink to insults, you have a problem.
Pretty sure he's repeatedly insulted her in his videos, buddy.
Insulted her content, not her.--- MaverickXeo ---MaverickXeo posted...That_Happened posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
SHE was 'bullying' him by calling him a 'garbage human.' You can disagree with someone; but when you sink to insults, you have a problem.
Pretty sure he's repeatedly insulted her in his videos, buddy.
Insulted her content, not her.
Sarkeesian does not differentiate the two. She doesn't allow comments, rebuttals, debates or whatever. Criticism and inquiry is the same as a personal attack to her. But I believe it has to be that way or her house of cards will come falling down. She can not allow others to have their voices heard or people will start to see through her, instead of how it is now where so many of the people she takes advantage of seem to be falling over themselves to kowtow to her wants and apologize on her behalf....MaverickXeo posted...That_Happened posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
SHE was 'bullying' him by calling him a 'garbage human.' You can disagree with someone; but when you sink to insults, you have a problem.
Pretty sure he's repeatedly insulted her in his videos, buddy.
Insulted her content, not her.
He's done both, actually. Which is my point.
Worse, I'm pretty sure he's the type of guy who wouldn't give a f*** about actual bullying and would ridicule someone who took it personally. Now he's faking the hurt feewings. What a little b****, and he displayed this on Joe Rogan's podcast.Sargon on Rogan's show:"(Anita) is under the impression that all of my videos are about her...
...I've made about 30 videos in 4 years referring to her."
"...Um that's a LOT (laughs)."
"No no, it sounds like a lot but that's less than 4% of the videos I've made. I've made 780 videos. I work hard."
"I'm sure you do but that's still 30 videos. I don't care if you've made a hundred million videos, that's still 30 videos about her."
"I don't think that's a large number."
Is this dude a CEer?That_Happened posted...Sargon on Rogan's show:
"(Anita) is under the impression that all of my videos are about her...
...I've made about 30 videos in 4 years referring to her."
"...Um that's a LOT (laughs)."
"No no, it sounds like a lot but that's less than 4% of the videos I've made. I've made 780 videos. I work hard."
"I'm sure you do but that's still 30 videos. I don't care if you've made a hundred million videos, that's still 30 videos about her."
"I don't think that's a large number."
Is this dude a CEer?
4% is not a lot...--- MaverickXeo ---That_Happened posted...Sargon on Rogan's show:
"(Anita) is under the impression that all of my videos are about her...
...I've made about 30 videos in 4 years referring to her."
"...Um that's a LOT (laughs)."
"No no, it sounds like a lot but that's less than 4% of the videos I've made. I've made 780 videos. I work hard."
"I'm sure you do but that's still 30 videos. I don't care if you've made a hundred million videos, that's still 30 videos about her."
"I don't think that's a large number."
Is this dude a CEer?
Possibly. There are plenty of idiots like him on hereMaverickXeo posted...
4% is not a lot...
Not sure if srs.Webmaster4531 posted...That really isn't a lot.
30 videos is a lot.300!The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM- Boards
- Current Events
- Anita Sarkeesian, Sargon, and GamerGate. It's not over folks.
