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Main reason that Hillary lost? - Results (110 votes)
The FBI/James Comey
8.18%
9
Russia/Putin
6.36%
7
Uninformed voters
18.18%
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Obama
5.45%
6
Misogyny
7.27%
8
Racism
2.73%
3
Wikileaks
4.55%
5
The media/social media
6.36%
7
The RNC
0.91%
1
The DNC
40%
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decades of successful propaganda and a poor campaign
half the shit that people throw at her is demonstrably false or completely irrelevant and how she campaigned was a total blunder |
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I think it's a matter of of not being very likeable/personable, and not having any strong convictions. As someone who voted for her, I did not like her very much as a candidate, I just preferred her to Trump, as I lean more Democratic/Liberal. She just struck me as very ... idk, like robotic or manufactured. Like one of those boy bands who are put together by the industry, except the political version.
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Asherlee10 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...decades of successful propaganda and a poor campaign Also this
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It's over-determined; the margin is so small you can point to any number of things, say "that's what caused it" and be basically correct.
She wins if not for the electoral college She wins if not for the Comey letter She wins if not for the Obamacare premium increases She wins if not for her vote on Iraq She wins if Jill Stein voters had voted for her She wins if she had made legalizing pot a campaign issue She wins if she had fired Huma Albedin or John Podesta or Robby Mook a while back All correct, in a technical sense. The explanation you choose to focus on is a reflection of your personal beliefs and biases.
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Zikten posted...
the biggest reason is that she sucks and people don't like her. she was the most unlikable candidate in years. she wasnt even supposed to get the nomination but the democrat party basically handed it to her against the public's will. we wanted Bernie She deserved it over Bernie. You should be loyal to your Party. “I am proud to be a Democrat and I wish Bernie were too.” - Hillary
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Ignoring the Rust Belt
I also believe that there may have been a concerted effort by the Green Party to draw off Democratic voters in swing states, but I'm not willing to posit that it had a direct effect on the election. |
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Anyone who actually thought Hillary was a trustworthy person must have lacked basic cognitive functioning in the 1990's. the doctor needs to prescribe herself some meds turning into milkwoman5 |
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Uninformed voters
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I_Stay_Noided posted...
decades of successful propaganda and a poor campaign These, but also that the right straight up despises her. Like, if the vote was between her and Roy Moore for PotUS I'd probably place my bet on Roy Moore.
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GregShmedley posted...
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Why isn't her campaign an option? I guess that can be filed under DNC. She got complacent and arrogant with her campaigning strategy. She didn't stop in Wisconsin ONCE. Working class whites felt completely alienated from this elitist hag.
GregShmedley posted... Other: Herself Also, this in general. She's just not a likable candidate and after losing to Trump has proven she is unelectable. |
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Fucking over Bernie then demanding his followers tow the DNC line was incredibly bold. Many, if not most, did exactly as she commanded, but a good chuck wasn’t willing to be a bitch to someone that fucked them over.
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Damn_Underscore posted...
chill02 posted...trump got more electoral votes than she did Do you want to play Chess? We both agree that the winner will be the other that gets checkmated right? Or if I win, will you be angry because you still had more pawns than I did?
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Antifar posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...You should be loyal to your Party. I agree with the communist. |
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K181 posted...
Hillary was an especially shitty candidate that couldn't connect with voters and ran a horribly targeted campaign ignoring huge swaths of the country and failing to stick to a message other than she wasn't Trump. This basically. I voted social media though because that was huge, more so than any election to date. |
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Misinformation campaigns
Russian changing voting rolls, discounting thousands of votes Comey bringing her back to court despite the complete lack of evidence Her being a milquetoast candidate at best Really shitty campaigning Disenfranchised Bernie voters Political apathy Electoral college favouring rural states over metropolitan ones etc etc It can't be nailed down to one thing. It was a confluence of really shitty events and facts that lead to her losing. I bet if even one of these things weren't true or didn't happen, she would have won. |
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M_Live posted...
Asherlee10 posted...I_Stay_Noided posted...show hidden quote(s) Definitely this... I also didn't trust a thing she said. I still voted for her though because Trump scared me even more. Didn't matter, I just hope she never tries to run again.
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She was a terrible candidate who had too many scandals. Some of which had a bit of legitimacy. She also played perfectly into Trump's campaign about crooked establishment politicians. No one outside of the crowd who just wanted to see the first woman president seemed to have any enthusiasm about her as a candidate. I also agree that she ran a poor campaign. It seemed like the big selling point she kept trying to use was that she wasn't Trump. The party should have taken a hint and distanced themselves from her after she lost to Obama.
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I think uninformed voters is the main reason. Being uninformed is why any non-rich person would vote Republican, especially Trump, anyway.https://imgur.com/hslUvRN
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Trump campaigned to middle america harder and Hilary went after progressives who were split with her and Sanders.
The FBI saying they were going to investigate her again like 2 weeks before the election.The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench.
Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content.Roshon posted...Uninformed voters
It's funny how four years prior the voters were very intelligent, and suddenly, four years later, we all became a bunch of idiots.
that doesn't make sense
Also I want to say, if anything, it's that she underestimated the intelligence of the average voter. That's the truth."Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of ArcadiaHillary has a lot of baggage from a long public life, and a lot of people were just never going to vote for her, period.dnc has the most votes
like the average voter even knows what the dnc or rnc areShe was a shitty candidate that was likely to lose to the majority of the GOP field. There's a reason why she polled bad against everyone but Trump and Cruz during the early primary days, and considering how many "Never Trump" Repubs went back on their word when he became the nominee, it wouldn't have shocked me that even Cruz would have gotten the same level of support.
EDIT: Not to mention there was a good 20+ year push from Conservatives to demonize her at every possible chance, both for legitimate and illegitimate reasons.Her campaign strategy was a failure, and the DNC platform of identity politics backfired in a big way. The entire convention was pandering to minorities and spouting victim rhetoric that is not appealing to mainstream American voters. This turned off working class whites who swung the electoral vote for Trump, and it didn't even secure votes from minorities to offset this, who showed up in far lower numbers than they did for Obama.
Realistically, all it would have taken was a slightly stronger focus on some of the midwest states, and she'd have won. Note, however, that this is only true against Trump, who was a historically weak candidate. If Hillary had been running against someone like Mitt Romney, she'd have lost in a blowout.- The AdmiralThe Admiral posted...Her campaign strategy was a failure, and the DNC platform of identity politics backfired in a big way. The entire convention was pandering to minorities and spouting victim rhetoric that is not appealing to mainstream American voters. This turned off working class whites who swung the electoral vote for Trump, and it didn't even secure votes from minorities to offset this, who showed up in far lower numbers than they did for Obama.
Realistically, all it would have taken was a slightly stronger focus on some of the midwest states, and she'd have won. Note, however, that this is only true against Trump, who was a historically weak candidate. If Hillary had been running against someone like Mitt Romney, she'd have lost in a blowout.
This is BS. So you’re saying don’t engage and relate to the Dem voters, the minorities who are needed to be active and energized in order for Dems to win?Roshon posted...The Admiral posted...
Her campaign strategy was a failure, and the DNC platform of identity politics backfired in a big way. The entire convention was pandering to minorities and spouting victim rhetoric that is not appealing to mainstream American voters. This turned off working class whites who swung the electoral vote for Trump, and it didn't even secure votes from minorities to offset this, who showed up in far lower numbers than they did for Obama.
Realistically, all it would have taken was a slightly stronger focus on some of the midwest states, and she'd have won. Note, however, that this is only true against Trump, who was a historically weak candidate. If Hillary had been running against someone like Mitt Romney, she'd have lost in a blowout.
This is BS. So you’re saying don’t engage and relate to the Dem voters, the minorities who are needed to be active and energized in order for Dems to win?
You don't "engage" with minorities by speaking to them like victims.- The AdmiralRenault posted...dnc has the most votes
like the average voter even knows what the dnc or rnc are
I can see the blame on the DNC. Hillary shouldn't have even had the chance to lose to Cheeto. They decided they wanted to see her smashed into the ground(which was indeed quite funny).Posted with GameRaven 3.4I’m going to go with she had no clear message or goal other than “Hey, I’m not Trump!”
Trump laid out what he wanted to do and how he was going to do it
And oh boy I disagreed with the vast majority of what came out of his mouth
But he was very forthcoming with what he wanted to accomplish, which can’t really be said for the Democratic Party last election cycle, or really this cycle for that matter, but I feel like other than his core following most have grown tired of Trump and his anticsDezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30
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