I am in no way trying to downplay this, but none of the other Anti-fa and Alt-Right clashes gathered this much attention. Hell even high level Republicans such as Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan have come out and condemned the Alt-Right which never happens.
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because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
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because the media can say the nukes are coming so much until people stop listening
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Because someone drove a car into 11 people
edit: sorry, 20 people
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Because it's 2017 and we still have Nazi's trying to claim their beliefs are legitimate.
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Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks.
Too late. Look at the post above yours.
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Probably because of the right wing terrorist attack white people.
No one cares when it's against muslims.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks.
pumpkin spice lives matter
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Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
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Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
of course, media coverage of terrorist attacks is "desperate" when the perpetrator is a white republican
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Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Buttery
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Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Legitimate actual Nazis who killed at least one person.
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Mal is such an obvious f***ing shill
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NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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The President is not afraid to issue direct personal insults to others
But when it comes to the AltRight and White Supremacists he tends to give half-assed remarks about how all sides need to settle down
So as to not alienate his base, of which there are a lot of racists and nationalists.
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RebelElite791 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Legitimate actual Nazis who killed at least one person.
do they know who did it?
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really, conservative ce's reaction to this has been equal parts disgusting and hilarious
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with (non-islamic) right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
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That darn liberal media making a big deal out of literal Nazis and terrorist attacks. God, anything to attack the right and white people.
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This stuff has been going on for a while, and people have not talking about it.
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?
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NadYobWoc posted...
I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims?
The only people who would describe Islamic terrorists as "right wing" are people like you who are attempting to make the left look better by comparison.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/analysis-deadly-threat-far-right-extremists-overshadowed-fear-islamic-terrorism/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/terrorism-right-wing-america-muslims-islam-white-supremacists-study-a7805831.html
http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/07/threat-extremists-more/
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/31/the-numbers-dont-lie-white-far-right-terrorists-pose-a-clear-danger-to-us-all/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/opinion/finsbury-park-terrorist-attack-far-right.html
http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf
Since September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic
violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. As shown in
figure 2, fatalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violet extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamis violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).
Bye.
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27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims?
The only people who would describe Islamic terrorists as "right wing" are people like you who are attempting to make the left look better by comparison.
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal? Also, he isn't talking about Islam at all, so moot point.
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims?
The only people who would describe Islamic terrorists as "right wing" are people like you who are attempting to make the left look better by comparison.
Oh, you're going for that angle. No, I'm not counting islamic terrorist attacks, although islamic fundamentalism is absolutely a right wing ideology.
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Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Yes. No. Yes. Yes.
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Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Yes?
They saluted Hitler and Trump, wore and waved swastikas, and chanted "Blud und Boden" yesterday and today. Next?
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Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Literally yes
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RebelElite791 posted...
Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Yes?
They saluted Hitler and Trump, wore and waved swastikas, and chanted "Blud und Boden" yesterday and today. Next?
just some economically anxious locker room talk from folks who are big fans of the aesthetics of germany's flag between 1933 and 1945
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hockeybub89 posted...
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal?
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites.
Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing. That's basically the antithesis of right-wing.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal?
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites.
Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing.
Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless terms
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NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal?
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites.
Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing.
Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless terms
The words have meaning, but people like hockeybub like to pretend that left = good and right = evil, when historically speaking, it's almost the exact opposite.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
How many liberals bomb abortion clinics?
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Frolex posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Yes?
They saluted Hitler and Trump, wore and waved swastikas, and chanted "Blud und Boden" yesterday and today. Next?
just some economically anxious locker room talk from folks who are big fans of the aesthetics of germany's flag between 1933 and 1945
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal?
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites.
Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing.
Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless terms
The words have meaning, but people like hockeybub like to pretend that left = good and right = evil, when historically speaking, it's almost the exact opposite.
As always, you have no self awareness
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FantomPayne posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are.
Right wing terrorist attacks are the most common form of terror attack in the US
Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
How many liberals bomb abortion clinics?
Or firebomb mosques
Or shoot up churches
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because it's a saturday and nothing else is going on
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal?
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites.
Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing.
Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless terms
The words have meaning, but people like hockeybub like to pretend that left = good and right = evil, when historically speaking, it's almost the exact opposite.
The f*** are you talking about? You are one of the only people I have ever seen who calls Nazis and radical Muslims leftists. I am sorry that, the independent that you are, get offended that there are evil groups on the right. I can name bad leftists. The Soviet Union, Antifa, eco-terrorists, any extreme left-wing group ever. It is pretty bold of you to assert your proper definitions all over the place when almost no one agrees with those definitions. But that just mean everyone is a scared PC liberal unlike truth-speakers like yourself, huh? And how can you have the balls to talk to me about thinking one side holds all the evil when you jump through hoops to assert anything that isn't a capitalist utopia as left-wing. A Sharia state is not left-wing or liberal or anything like that.
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Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism? Is that where he's getting his bizarre Nazis are left wing nonsense from?
What does Mal think of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea? Are they a democratic Republic?
even if I were a woman, I would never want to be my girlfriend - Franklin
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism? Is that where he's getting his bizarre Nazis are left wing nonsense from?
What does Mal think of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea? Are they a democratic Republic?
And the Congo. I bet he also thinks Bernie Sanders and Scandanavian countries are socialists.
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hockeybub89 posted...
The f*** are you talking about? You are one of the only people I have ever seen who calls Nazis and radical Muslims leftists. I am sorry that, the independent that you are, get offended that there are evil groups on the right. I can name bad leftists. The Soviet Union, Antifa, eco-terrorists, any extreme left-wing group ever. It is pretty bold of you to assert your proper definitions all over the place when almost no one agrees with those definitions. But that just mean everyone is a scared PC liberal
I didn't call muslims leftists (And yes Nazis has more in common with the left, specifically socialism, than they have similar to the right).
Also, "left" is not the same thing as "liberal". If you ever went onto actual leftist forums like leftypol or something similar, you'd know that. They hate liberals.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism?
What do you call a state that controls the means of production, dictates what products a factories are to produce, what price they're allowed to sell them for, and how much they are to pay their workers?
Sounds way more like Venezuela today than any capitalist nation, doesn't it?
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell
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Iodine posted...
I am in no way trying to downplay this, but none of the other Anti-fa and Alt-Right clashes gathered this much attention. Hell even high level Republicans such as Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan have come out and condemned the Alt-Right which never happens.
Antifa are general anarchists, Alt-Right are literal mein kampf reading nazis.
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Mal_Fet posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism?
What do you call a state that controls the means of production, dictates what products a factories are to produce, what price they're allowed to sell them for, and how much they are to pay their workers?
Every allied country during WWII?
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It's not every day a bunch of folks gather around a Confederate statue with torches chanting "blood and soil." The events of last night primed coverage for today.
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
The f*** are you talking about? You are one of the only people I have ever seen who calls Nazis and radical Muslims leftists. I am sorry that, the independent that you are, get offended that there are evil groups on the right. I can name bad leftists. The Soviet Union, Antifa, eco-terrorists, any extreme left-wing group ever. It is pretty bold of you to assert your proper definitions all over the place when almost no one agrees with those definitions. But that just mean everyone is a scared PC liberal
I didn't call muslims leftists (And yes Nazis has more in common with the left, specifically socialism, than they have similar to the right).
Also, "left" is not the same thing as "liberal". If you ever went onto actual leftist forums like leftypol or something similar, you'd know that. They hate liberals.
Muslims extremists and Nazis are not left-wing, leftist, liberal (left or otherwise), anything like that. Me conflating terms doesn't change that. You are making up s*** up that no one has ever considered the truth. You assert that government control is unique to the left and that is laughably untrue.
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