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I am in no way trying to downplay this, but none of the other Anti-fa and Alt-Right clashes gathered this much attention. Hell even high level Republicans such as Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan have come out and condemned the Alt-Right which never happens.
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Because someone drove a car into 11 people
edit: sorry, 20 people
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Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks. Too late. Look at the post above yours. |
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Because domestic terrorism actually took place at this event, unlike the 'terrorists' who busted a window out of a Starbucks. pumpkin spice lives matter
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Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are. of course, media coverage of terrorist attacks is "desperate" when the perpetrator is a white republican |
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are. Buttery |
Mal_Fet posted...
Because the media is desperate to show the right as being bad after years and years of the left constantly proving how s*** they are. Legitimate actual Nazis who killed at least one person. |
Mal is such an obvious f***ing shill
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NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted... Are you including Islam-motivated attacks here or something
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The President is not afraid to issue direct personal insults to others
But when it comes to the AltRight and White Supremacists he tends to give half-assed remarks about how all sides need to settle down So as to not alienate his base, of which there are a lot of racists and nationalists.
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really, conservative ce's reaction to this has been equal parts disgusting and hilarious
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with (non-islamic) right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
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That darn liberal media making a big deal out of literal Nazis and terrorist attacks. God, anything to attack the right and white people.
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NadYobWoc posted...
I'm including any attack carried out in accordance with right wing ideology. Does it not count if it's against muslims? The only people who would describe Islamic terrorists as "right wing" are people like you who are attempting to make the left look better by comparison.
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/analysis-deadly-threat-far-right-extremists-overshadowed-fear-islamic-terrorism/ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/terrorism-right-wing-america-muslims-islam-white-supremacists-study-a7805831.html http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/07/threat-extremists-more/ https://theintercept.com/2017/05/31/the-numbers-dont-lie-white-far-right-terrorists-pose-a-clear-danger-to-us-all/ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/opinion/finsbury-park-terrorist-attack-far-right.html http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf Since September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. As shown in figure 2, fatalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violet extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamis violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). Bye. |
Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... Islamic terrorists are right wing. Are you trying to call religious fundamentalism liberal? Also, he isn't talking about Islam at all, so moot point. |
Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... Oh, you're going for that angle. No, I'm not counting islamic terrorist attacks, although islamic fundamentalism is absolutely a right wing ideology.
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Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted... Yes. No. Yes. Yes. |
Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted... Yes? They saluted Hitler and Trump, wore and waved swastikas, and chanted "Blud und Boden" yesterday and today. Next? |
Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted... Literally yes
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RebelElite791 posted...
Tezlok posted... just some economically anxious locker room talk from folks who are big fans of the aesthetics of germany's flag between 1933 and 1945 |
hockeybub89 posted...
"right-wing" and "liberal" are not opposites. Also no, an ideology that wants the government and state to be united under authoritarian doctrine is not right-wing. That's basically the antithesis of right-wing.
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted... Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless terms
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NadYobWoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted... The words have meaning, but people like hockeybub like to pretend that left = good and right = evil, when historically speaking, it's almost the exact opposite.
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... How many liberals bomb abortion clinics? |
Frolex posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... As always, you have no self awareness
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FantomPayne posted...
Mal_Fet posted... Or firebomb mosques Or shoot up churches
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Mal_Fet posted...
NadYobWoc posted... The f*** are you talking about? You are one of the only people I have ever seen who calls Nazis and radical Muslims leftists. I am sorry that, the independent that you are, get offended that there are evil groups on the right. I can name bad leftists. The Soviet Union, Antifa, eco-terrorists, any extreme left-wing group ever. It is pretty bold of you to assert your proper definitions all over the place when almost no one agrees with those definitions. But that just mean everyone is a scared PC liberal unlike truth-speakers like yourself, huh? And how can you have the balls to talk to me about thinking one side holds all the evil when you jump through hoops to assert anything that isn't a capitalist utopia as left-wing. A Sharia state is not left-wing or liberal or anything like that. |
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism? Is that where he's getting his bizarre Nazis are left wing nonsense from?
What does Mal think of the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea? Are they a democratic Republic?
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism? Is that where he's getting his bizarre Nazis are left wing nonsense from? And the Congo. I bet he also thinks Bernie Sanders and Scandanavian countries are socialists. |
hockeybub89 posted...
The f*** are you talking about? You are one of the only people I have ever seen who calls Nazis and radical Muslims leftists. I am sorry that, the independent that you are, get offended that there are evil groups on the right. I can name bad leftists. The Soviet Union, Antifa, eco-terrorists, any extreme left-wing group ever. It is pretty bold of you to assert your proper definitions all over the place when almost no one agrees with those definitions. But that just mean everyone is a scared PC liberal I didn't call muslims leftists (And yes Nazis has more in common with the left, specifically socialism, than they have similar to the right). Also, "left" is not the same thing as "liberal". If you ever went onto actual leftist forums like leftypol or something similar, you'd know that. They hate liberals.
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Does Mal actually believe "National Socialism" is socialism? What do you call a state that controls the means of production, dictates what products a factories are to produce, what price they're allowed to sell them for, and how much they are to pay their workers? Sounds way more like Venezuela today than any capitalist nation, doesn't it?
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Iodine posted...
I am in no way trying to downplay this, but none of the other Anti-fa and Alt-Right clashes gathered this much attention. Hell even high level Republicans such as Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan have come out and condemned the Alt-Right which never happens. Antifa are general anarchists, Alt-Right are literal mein kampf reading nazis. |
Mal_Fet posted...
Bullet_Wing posted... Every allied country during WWII?
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted... Muslims extremists and Nazis are not left-wing, leftist, liberal (left or otherwise), anything like that. Me conflating terms doesn't change that. You are making up s*** up that no one has ever considered the truth. You assert that government control is unique to the left and that is laughably untrue. |
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RebelElite791 posted...
Tezlok posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
because the alt right are literal nazis while anti fa just shares similar ideals
Are they literal Nazis? Or do you just like to use that word? Do they salute Hitler? Do they use swastikas?
Yes?
They saluted Hitler and Trump, wore and waved swastikas, and chanted "Blud und Boden" yesterday and today. Next?
Anyone else willing to bet most of them can't speak actual German and aren't even of German descent?
Awww, isn't that cute? He thinks he can beat me!Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call a state that controls the means of production, dictates what products a factories are to produce, what price they're allowed to sell them for, and how much they are to pay their workers?
That's called Communism. Specifically, Soviet style Communism and not Marxism.
Any group of people who advocate for violence I would put out of left/right or liberal/conservative dichotomy entirely and call them radicals. Theres no place for violence in a civilized society, pure and simple
You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen ColbertKazi1212 posted...
Any group of people who advocate for violence I would put out of left/right or liberal/conservative dichotomy entirely and call them radicals.
Are you including war as violence, or excluding it to avoid the awkward situation of declaring all of mainstream politics to be radical?
kin to all that throbsAntifar posted...
Contemporary socialists and communists certainly were not celebrating Hitler's rise. But I'm sure Mal knows more about the tenets of socialism than the socialists.
The National Socialist party was a socialist grassroots movement that was hijacked by HItler and they transformed it into something that had nothing to do with Socialism but they kept the name.
Hitler hated Socialism unless it had to do with war efforts. The only thing he hated more than Socialism was Jews.
Antifar posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Any group of people who advocate for violence I would put out of left/right or liberal/conservative dichotomy entirely and call them radicals.
Are you including war as violence, or excluding it to avoid the awkward situation of declaring all of mainstream politics to be radical?
More dicey waters, because war also includes that of self-defense, but yea I'm including war as violence. Anyone who doesnt agree with the non-aggression principle is radical as far as I'm concerned, but theres plenty of leftists as well as the far right who believes in it, most notably left and right anarchists.
You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen ColbertChromaticAngel posted...
That's called Communism. Specifically, Soviet style Communism and not Marxism.
Marx said that the goal of Socialism was to create Communism.
If anything, Hitler was a "tankie" socialist with a nationalist dint, like Stalin was except Stalin was globalist.
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-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
That's called Communism. Specifically, Soviet style Communism and not Marxism.
Marx said that the goal of Socialism was to create Communism.
If anything, Hitler was a "tankie" socialist with a nationalist dint, like Stalin was except Stalin was globalist.
That's not what Marx said at all. Marx defined Socialism as a transitionary phase to Communism after the collapse of a capitalist government due to unsustainable capitalist policies.
Antifar posted...
Contemporary socialists and communists certainly were not celebrating Hitler's rise. But I'm sure Mal knows more about the tenets of socialism than the socialists.
The whole thing falls apart immediately when you remember socialists were on the Nazis' hit list. And Hitler hated communism. That was one of the major driving forces of the Eastern front and why it was so much more brutal than the Western front.
Mal is using a definition of socialism that no academic uses.ratings. the media has generally been stoking the flames of this s*** for a long time. the more explosive the results of violence the more eyes drawn to it, the more they can make.
Antifar posted...
Contemporary socialists and communists certainly were not celebrating Hitler's rise. But I'm sure Mal knows more about the tenets of socialism than the socialists.
No they fueled it with their own idiocy by leading attempts to overthrow the government via violent means that destabilized the government, and ultimately paved the way for a group of violent idiots to seize power.
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