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Never seen such a collection of insecure women-hating dudes that can't take the hint that women don't want them because of their awful personalities.
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This is an example of why a hyphen is useful. I believe you meant "women-hating dudes" not "women hating dudes". I was confused for a moment.
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1337toothbrush posted...
This is an example of why a hyphen is useful. I believe you meant "women-hating dudes" not "women hating dudes". I was confused for a moment. Thanks fam. |
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They seem very angry and bitter people, viewing relationships as some sort of formulated puzzle to solve and get the best high score in rather than a natural fun part of life.
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You're better off going to the purple pill. Good discussions and I came out feeling sympathetic to many red pillers. Would never call myself one though.
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Some people want to vent their frustration somewhere, so they got a cesspool of other virgins who think the same way. I mean there's complaining, and then there's demanding for women to change so they have a chance in getting laid.
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Redpill is mostly common sense. MGTOW is out there though.
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It is funny because most MGTOW are not angry bitter virgins. Those are the TFLers. Like learning about gynocentrism, not marrying women, doing our own things and finding our meaning in our lives is not being women hating.
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Their bitterness comes from somewhere. They tried and failed and don't think the effort for bettering themselves for validation is worth it. Let them find peace in living a fulfilling life without a love life.
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Anisoptera posted...
Their bitterness comes from somewhere. They tried and failed and don't think the effort for bettering themselves for validation is worth it. Let them find peace in living a fulfilling life without a love life. I don't think ranting about women on a message board is living a fulfilling life.
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Darmik posted...
Anisoptera posted...Their bitterness comes from somewhere. They tried and failed and don't think the effort for bettering themselves for validation is worth it. Let them find peace in living a fulfilling life without a love life. Depends. What else do they have going on outside of posting a few messages on a forum? |
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Esrac posted...
Depends. What else do they have going on outside of posting a few messages on a forum? Probably nothing. Which is why they don't have a fulfilling life.
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Darmik posted...
Esrac posted...Depends. What else do they have going on outside of posting a few messages on a forum? That seems awfully presumptive. Should we assume you or I have no lives outside of posting on CE? I might argue pointlessly on online forums and occasionally s***post. Doesn't mean I dont have a life outside of message boards. I don't think it's fair to judge the quality of a person's entire life based on message board posts. |
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Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...Esrac posted...Depends. What else do they have going on outside of posting a few messages on a forum? No. But CE isn't a toxic dump dedicated to hating women for all of their problems. If you have a fulfilling life why would you be there?
Kind Regards,
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Darmik posted...
Esrac posted...Darmik posted...Esrac posted...Depends. What else do they have going on outside of posting a few messages on a forum? After taking a few minutes to browse r/theredpill, I would figure some of the posters there get fulfillment from having sex with women, or at least trying to, and engaging in self-improvement activities. There do seem to be some posters who are suffering from social anxiety and paranoia around women looking for help though. |
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Err read their Introduction to Red Pill. It's all about that woman are incapable of having love that isn't opportunistic and selfish.
And this topic is also about MGTOW
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Darmik posted...
Err read their Introduction to Red Pill. It's all about that woman are incapable of having love that isn't opportunistic and selfish. So? You don't need to be nice to or considerate of women to have sex with them or live a fulfilling life. A cursory look through theredpill, it seems to be much about working out strategies to have sex or talk to women, with some griping about women and social anxiety mixed in. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but I don't see it being prohibitive to feeling fulfilled. Assuming you're one of the sexually successful ones. I'm sure it's a mixed bag. I don't find the content there entirely objectionable. Can't really knock the guys looking to get laid anyway. The r/MGTOW seems more about just s***ting on women. Some posts were a bit humorous, but otherwise it's a bit of a drag, yeah. But, if you'll not, it's got a sub base of only about 30,000, compared to r/theredpill having 218,000. So, silver linings, I guess. |
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https://archive.is/jKDk3
Sorry but you don't post and agree with that sorta s*** if your life is in a good place. It's not just about pick up techniques. It's the very belief that women aren't good people and it's okay to manipulate, use them and treat like them crap to make things equal.
Kind Regards,
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LockeMonster posted...
Redpill is mostly common sense. MGTOW is out there though. Esrac posted... That seems awfully presumptive. Should we assume you or I have no lives outside of posting on CE? These. I feel like the hate CEman has towards them is way worse than whatever precieved hate they have towards women. Well at least red pill. It feels like there's always a lot of projecting going on here. I grew up in a pretty hoody area of NYC (all races) where this whole red pill philosophy or whatever is just fact within these communities. It's not hate for women, it's learning to identify legitimate issues women bring to the table and how to best deal with them and how to improve yourself.
It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor
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Those communities are what happens when you become overly bitter about being rejected, and decide to blame the other side instead of owning up to your own issues and insecurities. The fact that they view relationships as a game of chess instead of something more natural is telling of their disposition.
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What the f*** are all these acronyms
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
The fact that they view relationships as a game of chess instead of something more natural is telling of their disposition. Probably means they're on the spectrum as well
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Anisoptera posted...
Their bitterness comes from somewhere. They tried and failed and don't think the effort for bettering themselves for validation is worth it. Let them find peace in living a fulfilling life without a love life. Why "better" yourself for some chick who wants to be accepted no matter what? Ugly, fat ass women out here and they all think they're queens.
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Darmik posted...
https://archive.is/jKDk3 Well, that's quite a read. Believing women aren't good people and that it's okay to manipulate them, etc. doesnt really discredit the notion that they can feel fulfilled with that kind of worldview. You seem to be conflating having a kind view of women with personal fulfillment. So what if they think it's okay to manipulate women for sex? I suspect the ones who've been successful at that feel some measure of fulfillment. |
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Yungsnuggie's beatdown of the red pill when talking about money grubbing hoes in the NBA is one of the best things I've ever read on reddit.
Read here, the bolded bit is the part I'm talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1ulxb4/mormon_faith_more_important_to_jabari_parker_than/cejpqf8/?context=4
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Ghost_Of_Donkey posted...
It is funny because most MGTOW are not angry bitter virgins. Those are the TFLers. Like learning about gynocentrism, not marrying women, doing our own things and finding our meaning in our lives is not being women hating. It's not strawmanning when it's easy to find posts on any of these subs that prove the movement is filled with men who clearly think of women as organic sex objects.
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Whose alt are you tc?
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pinky0926 posted...
Yungsnuggie's beatdown of the red pill when talking about money grubbing hoes in the NBA is one of the best things I've ever read on reddit. I laughed. |
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DoctorVader posted...
These. The red pill successfully identified a problem and came up with a toxic solution to the problem, that's all it is. Sure, if your car is dirty and needs a service one solution to the problem would be to get rid of the car. No more servicing fees or needing to clean it every month. That doesn't mean it's the best solution, though.
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Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...https://archive.is/jKDk3 I personally suspect people who despise half the population and people they talk to everyday likely aren't living a very fulfilling life regardless if they're having sex or not. Here's a post that has countless examples. Nothing about them gives me the impression that they're a happy, well adjusted bunch. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2nj2ed/my_compilation_of_posts_on_why_trp_is_sexist_and/
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pinky0926 posted...
DoctorVader posted...These. It's not a toxic solution. It's not even worse than whatever happens every day where millions of men f*** women and never speak to them again like it's completely acceptable. What I said is exactly what yungnuggie is saying in your link. Everything I said, he said in his first part. That's a part of the whole red pill thing even if he denies the link to the actual reddit redpill community. Go around Queens, The Bronx or Brooklyn and talk to the men there about women. They love women. They love their moms, sisters and daughters. But they'll also tell you s*** like "these b****es ain't loyal" or "women are crazy and manipulative" and give you similar strategies on how to play the game and use women. Just like women do the same with men with other women. It's not about hate nor disrespect. It's just how s*** is. All mostly very successful with women. Just jaded by their negative experiences and of others to be very cautious. It's all a game out here and it's not far off from what you often see redpillers say, though I'll admit some are just on some next s*** and can't differentiate between hating women and being smart with them.
It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor
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pinky0926 posted...
Yungsnuggie's beatdown of the red pill when talking about money grubbing hoes in the NBA is one of the best things I've ever read on reddit. Holy s***, the savagery
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DoctorVader posted...
It's not a toxic solution. It's not even worse than whatever happens every day where millions of men f*** women and never speak to them again like it's completely acceptable. If your goal is to get laid and not deal with heartache, sure - isolating yourself emotionally and using women like a f***ing psychopath would is definitely *a* solution. It's incredibly toxic to decide that women are children, that they're incapable of love or genuine affection, that all they will do is use you, and that the best course of action is to just take what you want and f*** the rest. It's toxic to use this as the basis for all your interactions with S.Os moving forward. And telling me that s*** in the ghetto is bad is not a good basis for an argument. Of course there are women who use you, of course relationships are somewhat transactional. Of course we all play the game to a degree. But abandoning all respect for anyone with a vagina and treating them like subhumans is a terrible way to go about life. See, obviously it works. Some of the redpill theory is wrapped up in solid advice that definitely works for people. Hit the gym, groom better, dress better, have some self-respect and don't do anything and everything for p****. That is solid advice. And if you follow the red pill theory as a lonely virgin, chances are your sex life will improve on this basis. Guy's who have never had any luck feel that they've stumbled on the cheat code for life. Where it gets dangerous is when the echo chamber redpill community encourages you to just take whatever you want from women. I mean look at Darmik's post. That guy's takeaway was that he should basically try and rape his girlfriend until she liked it. I could find countless examples from that sub that encouraged people to destroy their marriages all on the basis that women are whores. That's how f***ed up the thinking is, because it teaches you that women are liars and need to be bent to your will.
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pinky0926 posted...
If your goal is to get laid and not deal with heartache, sure - isolating yourself emotionally and using women like a f***ing psychopath would is definitely *a* solution. You put too much stock in feelings when getting laid. Men don't really give a f*** what happens to the chick. As if all dudes aren't somehow manipulating things just to get p****. Sounds really white knighty. pinky0926 posted... It's incredibly toxic to decide that women are children, that they're incapable of love or genuine affection, that all they will do is use you, and that the best course of action is to just take what you want and f*** the rest. It's toxic to use this as the basis for all your interactions with S.Os moving forward. And telling me that s*** in the ghetto is bad is not a good basis for an argument. Of course there are women who use you, of course relationships are somewhat transactional. Of course we all play the game to a degree. But abandoning all respect for anyone with a vagina and treating them like subhumans is a terrible way to go about life. It's not really all that and I'm saying it's normal. Whether you like it or think it's ok or not is not the concern. I'm saying these people are labeled as lonely rejected virgins, when IRL it's really people of all shades and lifestyles, many times the most successful with women. pinky0926 posted... See, obviously it works. Some of the redpill theory is wrapped up in solid advice that definitely works for people. Hit the gym, groom better, dress better, have some self-respect and don't do anything and everything for p****. That is solid advice. And if you follow the red pill theory as a lonely virgin, chances are your sex life will improve on this basis. This is what I'm saying except that last part. It can work for anyone. pinky0926 posted... Where it gets dangerous is when the echo chamber redpill encourages you to just take whatever you want from women. I mean look at Darmik's post. That guy's takeaway was that he should basically try and rape his girlfriend until she liked it. I could find countless examples from that sub that encouraged people to destroy their marriages all on the basis that women are whores. This is where the "some not knowing the difference between hating and being smart" comes in and you guys cherry picking the weirdos. There's 200k people on there dude.
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r/Incels is the best but they went private
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best part of r/redpill is when those guys write these fantasy stories about how they went to a club and used redpill phrases to pick up chicks
it always contains dubious information about clubs/bars/etc that shows the writer has a very tenuous grasp of how these places work, cheesy one liners, and then there is always a two girl combo of a hot girl and her fat friend who is looking to defeat redpillers (but not today, fatty!)
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DoctorVader posted...
You put too much stock in feelings when getting laid. Men don't really give a f*** what happens to the chick. As if all dudes aren't somehow manipulating things just to get p****. Sounds really white knighty. No, my general argument is "treat people with basic human dignity and respect regardless of your motivations or whether they have a vagina". If that's now what we think as white knighty behaviour then something is really f***ing wrong here. pinky0926 posted... It's not really all that and I'm saying it's normal. Whether you like it or think it's ok or not is not the concern. I'm saying these people are labeled as lonely rejected virgins, when IRL it's really people of all shades and lifestyles, many times the most successful with women. I have no doubt that many people on the red pill are not lonely rejected virgins. I think it certainly attracts lonely rejected virgins, however. My point was that regardless of how "successful" you are with women (and that kind of thinking is part of the problem in the first place), treating women as subhuman so that you can f*** them more easily is garbage behaviour. pinky0926 posted... This is what I'm saying except that last part. It can work for anyone. My argument here is it's a terrible solution, not that it doesn't work at all. pinky0926 posted... This is where the "some not knowing the difference between hating and being smart" comes in and you guys cherry picking the weirdos. There's 200k people on there dude. More like cherry harvesting at this point. If the fundamental principles of your movement/community/lifehacks betray that you don't think women are worthy of respect, that's wrapped up in all kinds of misogyny. Notice the (not) subtle difference between these two statements: 1) You need to stand up for yourself and not do anything a woman tells you 2) You need to stand up for yourself and not do anything a woman tells you because all women are whores and not to be trusted That's the difference between being smart and being red pill.
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pinky0926 posted...
No, my general argument is "treat people with basic human dignity and respect regardless of your motivations or whether they have a vagina". If that's now what we think of white knighty behaviour then something is really f***ing wrong here. Lol, sometimes people don't have time for the drama or attached strings. Redpill doesn't say act like a psychopath. You're either exaggerating or just ignorant on what's really said. pinky0926 posted... I have no doubt that many people on the red pill are not lonely rejected virgins. I think it certainly attracts lonely rejected virgins, however. My point was that regardless of how "successful" you are with women (and that kind of thinking is part of the problem in the first place), treating women as subhuman so that you can f*** them more easily is garbage behaviour. You seem to have this skewed view of the place that's not really correct. pinky0926 posted... My argument here is it's a terrible solution, not that it doesn't work at all. It's not a terrible solution because it's normal and getting pissed at a group talking about obvious stuff is weird and stupid. pinky0926 posted... More like cherry harvesting at this point. If the fundamental principles of your movement/community/lifehacks betray that you don't think women are worthy of respect, that's wrapped up in all kinds of misogyny. Again, you seem to have a biased and bitter view of the place based off the limited things you've read when there's 200k people on there with hundreds of thousands of topics. As I said, some are unhinged and go the extreme but most don't. It's not as colorful and exaggerated as you make it sound. I feel like that place bothers you for some reason.
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LockeMonster posted...
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DoctorVader posted...
Lol, sometimes people don't have time for the drama or attached strings. Redpill doesn't say act like a psychopath. You're either exaggerating or just ignorant on what's really said. DT, or Dark Triad - A combination of three personality traits: Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and Psychopathy. An effective short-term sexual strategy. More in-depth information here. I took that straight from the red pill glossary of terms. It links you to a site on how to emulate this behaviour as a strategy. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/ So no, not ignorant or exaggerating. Literally this is a thing. You seem to have this skewed view of the place that's not really correct. Nah, I think I'm pretty spot on. They use all sorts of acronyms like "plates" and "hamsters" that help dehumanise the object of your desire. I say object, because at this point it's pretty clear that there's a significant strain in this thinking that women aren't even really human on the same level that men are. They have theories like "dark triad" (as above), which literally encourages you to adopt narcissistic and psychopathic traits as a strategy. They openly encourage emotional abuse like gaslighting and "dread game" as a tactic of control. I mean you find threads on there discussing the implications of gaslighting and "if" it's a bad idea or not. Really, "if"? The entire rhetoric is focused around this idea that women are these wild irrational animals that you need to tame to get what you want from them. It's not a terrible solution because it's normal and getting pissed at a group talking about obvious stuff is weird and stupid. My issue isn't that I think the problem isn't real. My issue is the entire strategy for dealing with the problem is misguided at best, dangerous at worst. Again, you seem to have a biased and bitter view of the place based off the limited things you've read when there's 200k people on there with hundreds of thousands of topics. It bothers me a lot because I think some of the advice it puts down is downright dangerous and disturbing. And you saying "but there are 200k people, some are bad, some are good" doesn't really help as an argument when I'm talking about the source material. It's not cherry picking when you go onto the front page and look at all the top posts and see a general theme. It's not cherry picking when you can find posts from the lead moderator saying that women are children (https://archive.is/Tip7V). It's not cherry picking when you're referring straight from the wiki and theory reading on the sidebar to find that the entire premise is on the basis that women are liars and manipulative by nature (https://therationalmale.com/2011/12/27/women-in-love/).
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Lmao, this topic just proves there's plenty of crossover between CE and Redpill. Explains the rampant misogyny and bitterness from the neckbeards around here.
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While I can understand their frustration (because I've experienced it myself and still do), some of these people aren't very good at handling it without lashing out at women or jumping to insane conclusions about them, as if men aren't guilty of the same stuff.
I think we should seek to understand people's frustration with their sex lives or dating lives and treat them with compassion while also making clear that these attitudes aren't okay and won't help them actually solve their problems.
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Sadly yes, TC.
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Godnorgosh posted...
While I can understand their frustration (because I've experienced it myself and still do), some of these people aren't very good at handling it without lashing out at women or jumping to insane conclusions about them, as if men aren't guilty of the same stuff. ding ding ding! It should be pretty straightforward. If you've been emotionally abused, manipulated and controlled - the solution is to not allow that to happen to you again, and to surround yourself with better people. The solution should not be to just get better at being manipulative and controlling and abusive than the people who wronged you.
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Godnorgosh posted...
We aren't there moms. It's better to just point and laugh, because you can't help these people, but you can help remind them that we think they're unrespectable trash so they stay inside. The smart ones will figure it out, and f*** the rest.
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Twinmold posted...
Godnorgosh posted... As long as we can do the same to fat chicks.
If you have a problem with potheads, throw your computer out the window. Why should you be able leech off the creativity of those you condemn?
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Twinmold posted...
Godnorgosh posted... This is a bad post, and I'm someone who usually mocks hardcore redpillers/'nice guys'.
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WaterLink posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...The fact that they view relationships as a game of chess instead of something more natural is telling of their disposition. |
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@pinky0926
I don't know about all the deeper DT stuff you're talking about. I meant something like telling a chick you're down for a relationship and then ghosting her after sex. I'm going by just everyday posts I've been seeing for years. It's not mostly the stuff you're talking about. It's mostly about staying aware and people's negative experiences and trying to get advice on it. You take the good and flush the rest. My point has been more that it's just normal s***. People underestimate the amount of men that think like this by several magnitudes. That it's far from just losers or neckbeards. That's why I made my OP. Because the aggression is always towards the latter group, which makes me question if people are just sheltered or just don't know other none-neckbeard males. I agree that people are far too impressionable to the internet today and that someone that can't filter it can take the wrong s*** from it, but it's not that serious imo.
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it's incredibly ironic that "red pill", a phrase from a movie made by two transgender women as an allegory for being transgender, was turned into an excuse to hate womenpeanut butter and dickDoctorVader posted...@pinky0926
I don't know about all the deeper DT stuff you're talking about. I meant something like telling a chick you're down for a relationship and then ghosting her after sex. I'm going by just everyday posts I've been seeing for years. It's not mostly the stuff you're talking about. It's mostly about staying aware and people's negative experiences and trying to get advice on it. You take the good and flush the rest.
My point has been more that it's just normal s***. People underestimate the amount of men that think like this by several magnitudes. That it's far from just losers or neckbeards. That's why I made my OP. Because the aggression is always towards the latter group, which makes me question if people are just sheltered or just don't know other none-neckbeard males.
I agree that people are far too impressionable to the internet today and that someone that can't filter it can take the wrong s*** from it, but it's not that serious imo.
Right, but telling a woman you're down for a relationship and then ghosting after sex is just the same old s***ty thing guys have been doing since forever. It's weird to give that an entire scientific sounding theory to try and justify it and then build an internet community and movement around that, complete with strategies and acronyms and guides on how best to f*** with people. That display a certain level of anti-social behaviour I honestly find unsettling.
I think the aggression you're talking about comes from the fact that this community does nothing to denounce all the "deeper DT stuff". It welcomes and encourages it, and is therefore completely valid to criticise. You don't see people going "woah bro, we're just here to step up our sex life, not manipulate women". Manipulating women is the entire point of theredpill, even if different subsets of the community apparently draw the line at different levels of straight up emotional abuse.
I really don't care if the dude I'm talking about is wearing a fedora or was on the cover of Mens Fitness magazine. I'm not going to respect the ideas being put down there.
If lying to women about a potential relationship just so you can f*** her is your game, then own it. But don't come at me like it's totally fine and not a problem or a bad thing to do.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg(edited 16 hours ago)awesome999 posted...Whose alt are you tc?
Why is that important?The trick to detecting a redpiller is just to tell them you're waiting for marriage. :u If they lose all interest, you know they're just after the sex.OpheliaAdenade posted...The trick to detecting a redpiller is just to tell them you're waiting for marriage. :u If they lose all interest, you know they're just after the sex.
I don't think the only people interested in sex are red pillars.pinky0926 posted...Right, but telling a woman you're down for a relationship and then ghosting after sex is just the same old s***ty thing guys have been doing since forever. It's weird to give that an entire scientific sounding theory to try and justify it and then build an internet community and movement around that, complete with strategies and acronyms and guides on how best to f*** with people. That display a certain level of anti-social behaviour I honestly find unsettling.
But it's not just that. You're going backwards now.
pinky0926 posted...I think the aggression you're talking about comes from the fact that this community does nothing to denounce all the "deeper DT stuff". It welcomes and encourages it, and is therefore completely valid to criticise. You don't see people going "woah bro, we're just here to step up our sex life, not manipulate women". Manipulating women is the entire point of theredpill, even if different subsets of the community apparently draw the line at different levels of straight up emotional abuse.
Reread my post.
pinky0926 posted...I really don't care if the dude I'm talking about is wearing a fedora or was on the cover of Mens Fitness magazine. I'm not going to respect the ideas being put down there.
Ok, so then my OP was not meant for you then.
pinky0926 posted...If lying to women about a potential relationship just so you can f*** her is your game, then own it. But don't come at me like it's totally fine and not a problem or a bad thing to do.
Oh shut up.It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The DoctorMilo_Yiannopous posted...OpheliaAdenade posted...
The trick to detecting a redpiller is just to tell them you're waiting for marriage. :u If they lose all interest, you know they're just after the sex.
I don't think the only people interested in sex are red pillars.
What kind of man doesn't respect a woman trying to protect her virtue? A redpiller, that's who.DoctorVader posted...But it's not just that. You're going backwards now.
Dude, no matter how many positives you can find in red pill theory, the basis of it is "how to manipulate women better than they manipulate you". There's no coming back from that. Either you think that's cool or you don't.Reread my post.
It's far from "normal s***" to form an entire theory and community around the premise of how to f*** with people most effectively.
Yeah, I get what you're trying to say. "People don't realise that it's not just loser neckbeards, lots of regular dudes act this way". But you're not listening to what I'm saying: nobody should act this way, and it should not be normal, or encouraged, or casually dismissed just because "lots of dudes do it".I called you out
if you're gonna proudly state that you use women for sex, I'm gonna call you out on that. Don't post things and then get mad when people comment on it.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg(edited 16 hours ago)pinky0926 posted...Dude, no matter how many positives you can find in red pill theory, the basis of it is "how to manipulate women better than they manipulate you". There's no coming back from that. Either you think that's cool or you don't.
Ok
pinky0926 posted...It's far from "normal s***" to form an entire theory and community around the premise of how to f*** with people most effectively.
Yeah, I get what you're trying to say. "People don't realise that it's not just loser neckbeards, lots of regular dudes act this way". But you're not listening to what I'm saying: nobody should act this way, and it should not be normal, or encouraged, or casually dismissed just because "lots of dudes do it".
Again, reread my post. Third time's the charm.
pinky0926 posted...if you're gonna proudly state that you use women for sex, I'm gonna call you out on that. Don't post things and then get mad when people comment on it.
Lol, I never said I do that. Regardless, you're taking this too seriously and acting too sensitive and need to cut the dramatics that's why I told you to shut up. You didn't call me out on anything.It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The DoctorGameofWheels posted...feeling sympathetic to many red pillers.
No, it is impossible to feel bad for those people & their disgusting outlook on the world.http://soundcloud.com/marcostaz http://i.imgur.com/AgJ8OvU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WYvGE.gif Seven Kilo Gold ChainTwinmold posted...Godnorgosh posted...
I think we should seek to understand people's frustration with their sex lives or dating lives and treat them with compassion while also making clear that these attitudes aren't okay and won't help them actually solve their problems.
We aren't there moms. It's better to just point and laugh, because you can't help these people, but you can help remind them that we think they're unrespectable trash so they stay inside. The smart ones will figure it out, and f*** the rest.
This guy gets itDid "redpill" come from something besides The Matrix? Because that's what my mind leaps to every time (contextually it makes sense, I just want to be sure that I not living in a narrow pool of social references).DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):Solid Sonic posted...Did "redpill" come from something besides The Matrix? Because that's what my mind leaps to every time (contextually it makes sense, I just want to be sure that I not living in a narrow pool of social references).
That's what it comes from. Essentially they feel they're woke to a reality that most people don't experience or see.CE's Resident Scotsman.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpgThat I understood, I just thought maybe The Matrix was making literal an existing turn of phrase that I hadn't heard of prior to watching it.DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):OpheliaAdenade posted...Milo_Yiannopous posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
The trick to detecting a redpiller is just to tell them you're waiting for marriage. :u If they lose all interest, you know they're just after the sex.
I don't think the only people interested in sex are red pillars.
What kind of man doesn't respect a woman trying to protect her virtue? A redpiller, that's who.
A man can respect it, doesn't mean he have to deal with it. Don't know anybody who would wait that long.Teddytalks posted...A man can respect it, doesn't mean he have to deal with it. Don't know anybody who would wait that long.
You don't know very many decent men then. :uKudos Pinky. I 100% agree with your posts here."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of themLuna Post.Number39 posted...it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of them
That isn't an excuse, though.
Most people are generally attractive. With a little effort, most people are datable."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Asherlee10 posted...Number39 posted...
it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of them
That isn't an excuse, though.
Most people are generally attractive. With a little effort, most people are datable.
Lol no they are not
This is generally attractive.
THIS is not most people. If you don't look like this, you are not date able based on looks alone.(edited 15 hours ago)LookMoneyStatus posted...Asherlee10 posted...
Number39 posted...
it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of them
That isn't an excuse, though.
Most people are generally attractive. With a little effort, most people are datable.
Lol no they are not
This is generally attractive.
THIS is not most people
No, that is EXCEPTIONALLY attractive. That isn't even close to a norm.
Most people who care about their appearance are attractive. That means not being fat, exercising a little, and dressing well."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."(edited 15 hours ago)I love how CE will defend these guys but feminists are dismissed out of hand and anyone who defends them is a white knight. No bias there at all.legendary_zell posted...I love how CE will defend these guys but feminists are dismissed out of hand and anyone who defends them is a white knight. No bias there at all.
Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark TwainAsherlee10 posted...LookMoneyStatus posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Number39 posted...
it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of them
That isn't an excuse, though.
Most people are generally attractive. With a little effort, most people are datable.
Lol no they are not
This is generally attractive.
THIS is not most people
No, that is EXCEPTIONALLY attractive. That isn't even close to a norm.
Most people who care about their appearance are attractive. That means not being fat, exercising a little, and dressing well.
Cope. If you are not exceptionally attractive, you aren't dating based on looks alone
End of story. A haircut and grooming doesn't make you as good as THIS. You could exercise, dress well and STILL Be unattractive. Why? Due to facial features. Long philtrum, weak jaw, receding chin, big nose, over eyelid exposure,big ears,etclegendary_zell posted...I love how CE will defend these guys but feminists are dismissed out of hand and anyone who defends them is a white knight. No bias there at all.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpE6xMoPRVI/VrQqJHNWORI/AAAAAAAAAEk/wFu26OdSN0U/s1600/StrawMan2.jpghttp://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg
Always. Edgy.I'm going to be bold, and I dare someone to challenge me on this statement
IF YOU DONT HAVE MODEL QUALITIES, YOU ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE LOOKING
End of story. It's either be ugly, be average, or be attractive.Also, clothes don't have that big of an impact on looks compared to facial structure.
Why? Lets point this out. The guy in the pic is wearing a simple shirt. So if that guy is wearing just a basic tee, why would any other person be "generally" attractive from better looking clothes?
It just points out that the FACE is most important. Height is next(imo). Not Clothes, Not haircuts, FACELookMoneyStatus posted...Cope. If you are not exceptionally attractive, you aren't dating based on looks alone
End of story. A haircut and grooming doesn't make you as good as THIS. You could exercise, dress well and STILL Be unattractive. Why? Due to facial features. Long philtrum, weak jaw, receding chin, big nose, over eyelid exposure,big ears,etc
No, you clearly have some deep-seated issues with this topic. You're under the impression that unless your face is a 9/10 or 10/10 you're undatable and that's just plain ignorant.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with average attractiveness, which is what most people are. A person's average attractiveness can be improved with a little effort, too."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Twinmold posted...Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Yeah, that much is clear."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."Twinmold posted...Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Everything I say is true though. The only way to date if you aren't a model, is if you have lots of $$$$ or status to compensate. In terms of true looks, people will always fail. Why?
Because women will go for the best of the best in terms of men. If not for their pure genetics, then for $$$ which provides financial STABILITY
Average people cannot get women or have sex purely from their looks
Grooming and taking care of yourself provides little boost in ratings to make you look like a chad or good looking!LookMoneyStatus posted...Twinmold posted...
Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Everything I say is true though. The only way to date if you aren't a model, is if you have lots of $$$$ or status to compensate. In terms of true looks, people will always fail. Why?
Because women will go for the best of the best in terms of men. If not for their pure genetics, then for $$$ which provides financial STABILITY
Average people cannot get women or have sex purely from their looks
Grooming and taking care of yourself provides little boost in ratings to make you look like a chad or good looking!
so why do people think they're entitled to someone else's body?peanut butter and dickAsherlee10 posted...LookMoneyStatus posted...
Cope. If you are not exceptionally attractive, you aren't dating based on looks alone
End of story. A haircut and grooming doesn't make you as good as THIS. You could exercise, dress well and STILL Be unattractive. Why? Due to facial features. Long philtrum, weak jaw, receding chin, big nose, over eyelid exposure,big ears,etc
No, you clearly have some deep-seated issues with this topic. You're under the impression that unless your face is a 9/10 or 10/10 you're undatable and that's just plain ignorant.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with average attractiveness, which is what most people are. A person's average attractiveness can be improved with a little effort, too.
I think that people who aren't models are undatable unless they have lots of $$$ to compensate. Or status.
Average attractiveness is something women hate! Because most women despise men who don't fit the good looking 6 foot chad or male model that movies like to praise. In 2017 and up, women have little reason to go with normal guys, when they can go for the best of the best. Also, there are limits to improving.
For example: You can't improve your height or facial structure normally. Both of these are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for attractiveness.averagejoel posted...LookMoneyStatus posted...
Twinmold posted...
Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Everything I say is true though. The only way to date if you aren't a model, is if you have lots of $$$$ or status to compensate. In terms of true looks, people will always fail. Why?
Because women will go for the best of the best in terms of men. If not for their pure genetics, then for $$$ which provides financial STABILITY
Average people cannot get women or have sex purely from their looks
Grooming and taking care of yourself provides little boost in ratings to make you look like a chad or good looking!
so why do people think they're entitled to someone else's body?
Because men are raised in a generation where being a virgin or not having a GF means that you are completely and utterly pathetic. Society essentially looks down on men who are unable to get a partner.And to add on, women also have a cheat code for attractiveness. They can easily boost up with make up, and it's acceptable to do so.
Guys don't really have that same luxury. Most guys can't wear makeup or do what they can to hide their flaws without getting called out or insulted for it.LookMoneyStatus posted...averagejoel posted...
LookMoneyStatus posted...
Twinmold posted...
Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Everything I say is true though. The only way to date if you aren't a model, is if you have lots of $$$$ or status to compensate. In terms of true looks, people will always fail. Why?
Because women will go for the best of the best in terms of men. If not for their pure genetics, then for $$$ which provides financial STABILITY
Average people cannot get women or have sex purely from their looks
Grooming and taking care of yourself provides little boost in ratings to make you look like a chad or good looking!
so why do people think they're entitled to someone else's body?
Because men are raised in a generation where being a virgin or not having a GF means that you are completely and utterly pathetic. Society essentially looks down on men who are unable to get a partner.
ok
so instead of sympathizing with their toxic attitudes, work on combatting those societal problems. simplepeanut butter and dickLookMoneyStatus posted...I think that people who aren't models are undatable unless they have lots of $$$ to compensate. Or status.
Nothing else needs to be read about your opinion this matter once you've stated this.
This is just absolutely wrong and absurd."Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it."averagejoel posted...LookMoneyStatus posted...
averagejoel posted...
LookMoneyStatus posted...
Twinmold posted...
Don't talk to Look Money Status. Being a bitterbeard is his entire gimmick, and I honestly believe he hates those types of people and imitates them to mock them.
Everything I say is true though. The only way to date if you aren't a model, is if you have lots of $$$$ or status to compensate. In terms of true looks, people will always fail. Why?
Because women will go for the best of the best in terms of men. If not for their pure genetics, then for $$$ which provides financial STABILITY
Average people cannot get women or have sex purely from their looks
Grooming and taking care of yourself provides little boost in ratings to make you look like a chad or good looking!
so why do people think they're entitled to someone else's body?
Because men are raised in a generation where being a virgin or not having a GF means that you are completely and utterly pathetic. Society essentially looks down on men who are unable to get a partner.
ok
so instead of sympathizing with their toxic attitudes, work on combatting those societal problems. simple
That would work if men could go on a drug that helps get rid of their attraction to the opposite sex. that way, they won't have any feelings or physical attraction for women, and would not care.
The other would be based on willpower and going through lots of experiences to the point where they become angry and swear off all women.Asherlee10 posted...LookMoneyStatus posted...
I think that people who aren't models are undatable unless they have lots of $$$ to compensate. Or status.
Nothing else needs to be read about your opinion this matter once you've stated this.
This is just absolutely wrong and absurd.
I don't know any woman who is going to want to stay with a guy who doesn't have financial stability.MGTOW is just comedy relief for me. Couldn't learn the game so they stop playing instead of improving. I've seen some of the ugliest men with the most gorgeous women and understand confidence is a major part of that.Would've, could've, should've. Would of, should of, and could of ARE INCORRECT!!!!JadeBaby posted...MGTOW is just comedy relief for me. Couldn't learn the game so they stop playing instead of improving. I've seen some of the ugliest men with the most gorgeous women and understand confidence is a major part of that.
People may be overestimating how many of these guys are neckbeards vs. divorced men who have been f***ed over by the family court system."Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowelltennisdude818 posted...People may be overestimating how many of these guys are neckbeards vs. divorced men who have been f***ed over by the family court system.
This a lot of them are divorced guys who woke to the reality that women get into relationships for status or money not loveBeing a women is the hardest thing in za warudo They are soooooo oppressedassassingriskel posted...tennisdude818 posted...
People may be overestimating how many of these guys are neckbeards vs. divorced men who have been f***ed over by the family court system.
This a lot of them are divorced guys who woke to the reality that women get into relationships for status or money not love
<_<GameFAQS:
Can't beat a game? OMG! Git gud scrub! It's not the game's fault you suck!
Can't attract a woman? OMG! Women are evil and shallow! None of this is my fault! Why is life so unfair to men like me!?This a lot of them are divorced guys who woke to the reality that women get into relationships for status or money not love
Why are so many users in a rush to let everyone know they've had zero success with the ladies?Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain(edited 14 hours ago)Twinmold posted...GameFAQS:
Can't beat a game? OMG! Git gud scrub! It's not the game's fault you suck!
Can't attract a woman? OMG! Women are evil and shallow! None of this is my fault! Why is life so unfair to men like me!?
There is always a strategy to beat a game. And even one strategy can work for every person or for a majority of people
Attracting women has several different factors beyond our control.Twinmold posted...GameFAQS:
Can't beat a game? OMG! Git gud scrub! It's not the game's fault you suck!
Can't attract a woman? OMG! Women are evil and shallow! None of this is my fault! Why is life so unfair to men like me!?This a lot of them are divorced guys who woke to the reality that women get into relationships for status or money not love
Why are so many users in a rush to let everyone know they've had zero success with the ladies?
If you can't accept reality that's on you not meBeing a women is the hardest thing in za warudo They are soooooo oppressedLookMoneyStatus posted...There is always a strategy to beat a game.
MGTOW is literally doing it Wargames style and dropping out.Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense
Just know, to me, you're better late than never again.Number39 posted...it's easy for pinky to speak when he lives the life that most TRPers want naturally
don't ruin it for the rest of them
Who would have thought that taking care of yourself, working out, working on your sense of style, putting yourself out there, making an effort to better understand what dating is like for women, pursuing a career, following your passions, constantly trying and learning to be a better guy all round...who would have guessed that eventually you'd start becoming a more appealing dating prospect?
Nah, better sit in my room in my cargo shorts and blame women and my lack of god-given alpha personality for my involuntary celibacy.
Thing is, you say these things like I don't know what it's like. Do you know why I get fired up about these topics? It's not because it's always been easy. The complete opposite. Here's me at 19 (far right):
Do you think that pinky was drowning in p****? Or do you think maybe that pinky was every girl's "harmless friend", starved of affection and trying to figure out why...CE's Resident Scotsman.
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