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Colin Kaepernick is blackballed from the NFL: Good riddance! Teams have the right to hire/fire whomever they want!/ Not worth the distraction!
It'd be funny if black folks hadn't seen this hypocrisy come from white america time and time again, but, here we are...
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fair, next
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Both should have been fired.
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How is being fired from your job interfering with free speech?
Free Speech is that you can't be arrested or fined or anything due to expressing anti-Government opinions (now pretty much spread to near all opinions) A private company can still fire you
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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How is being fired from your job interfering with free speech? |
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If he didn't have free speech the government could of arrested him. He has free speech so he wasn't arrested.
I'm pretty sure when he was hired by Google he agreed to abide by their rules. When he published his rant publicly, Google felt that it went against there rules and fired him. He is still allowed to state his beliefs about female all he wants but businesses are free to decide that they don't want someone with those ideas working for them.
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The concept of free speech goes beyond the legality behind it. If I start a magazine, and then start banning writers for writing things I don't like, then I am removing a platform for them to reach audiences, and thus inhibiting their freedom to say what they want on that platform.
It's my right to do so, and it absolutely should be my right to do so. But that doesn't mean I'm not inhibiting freedom of speech. Ya gotta think past legal vs illegal, because the world is more complicated than that. If you are specifically talking about free speech as defined in the constitution and all that, then sure, but it goes beyond that, I just don't think most people understand that concept.
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>Free Speech "violation"
>Not the government Hm
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I don't know about others, but him being fired isn't what troubles me
It's the fact that we can't even discuss what was in the memo without being labeled as a sexist if we agree with it. Not saying everyone who disagrees with that point of view labels the other side as sexist...but it sure seems to be a common theme. I can't fathom how someone can read it and think to themselves "this guy wants to cut all women out of tech" when he literally gives some solutions as to how to better integrate women into tech based on their traits that tend to show up when looking at large distributions. Weird times we live in |
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How is being fired from your job interfering with free speech? He probably calls being modded on here a violation of free speech too. |
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Spooking posted...
Both should have been fired. Kaep opted out, smh at him
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 According to the guy, his memo was something he was working on for a while and had circulated numerous times, getting positive feedback from other employees. I'm guessing it reached the wrong person lately. However, the truly disgusting part of all of this is the media's handling of it. Stefan goes into how hard it was to find the original, as it was only available as summaries or heavily edited, always represented to be unsourced and uncredited. Everything is sourced in the original, and the blatant misrepresentation done is reprehensible.
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Rhylos posted...
However, the truly disgusting part of all of this is the media's handling of it. Literally every news headline was something like "Google employee writes anti-diversity memo", completely missing the point. And proving the employee right. Disgusting.
Ulti was right
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Romes187 posted...
I don't know about others, but him being fired isn't what troubles me 1984 again. We have to agree with what's culturally popular. |
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Colin Kaepernick is blackballed from the NFL: Good riddance! .. Hes not black balled...hes just a terrible f***ing quarterback who wants starting time and money. Get a f***ing clue
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Romes187 posted...
I don't know about others, but him being fired isn't what troubles me Bingo.
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UnfairRepresent posted...
How is being fired from your job interfering with free speech? This. I never got why people were screaming about "muh freedom of speech" in that topic about the Google ex-employee, when private corporations have every right to fire you based on the s*** that you've said.
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Legally, people are correct when they point out that private entities aren't bound by the first amendment (which tends to be what we're talking about when we say free speech.)
However, there are clear and obvious flaws with letting private entities restrict whatever speech they want. For example, this case where a woman claims she was fired for voting for Obama in 2012. http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/02/20/woman-claims-she-was-fired-for-voting-for-obama/ Legal, if true. But also, not great!
kin to all that throbs
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TC the clown
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When talking about free speech, there are two main meanings that are used.
The first is the right guaranteed under the first amendment, that is that Congress cannot make laws that interfere with free speech. This is the one people usually use when they're bashing others for citing free speech. The second is the idea that people should be able to say anything, provided that they're not inciting violence, making threats, and such. This is what people usually mean when they cite free speech as an ideal. Remember that free speech doesn't require a government, and trying to claim it does is disingenuous. Now a government can help support free speech through things like the US First Amendment, but a government can also suppress free speech like North Korea.
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Colin Kaepernick is blackballed from the NFL: Good riddance! Teams have the right to hire/fire whomever they want!/ Not worth the distraction! That's a good example to point out how hypocritical the right is.
pretty sweet
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Kaepernick has seriously got to be one of the most unfairly s***-on people in human history.
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Romes187 posted...
I don't know about others, but him being fired isn't what troubles me "You see, the black people have fast twitch muscle fiber..." You're a clown |
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Godnorgosh posted...
Kaepernick has seriously got to be one of the most unfairly s***-on people in human history. Conservatives aren't good with reading comprehension and nuance |
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PoopMcgee420 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...Colin Kaepernick is blackballed from the NFL: Good riddance! .. Lmao ok kid
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I've always supported Kaepernick not standing for the anthem if he didn't feel comfortable. Forced patriotism is not cool.
There's extreme hypocrisy on both the right and left. The right gets called out for it more often, but this Google memo thing is bringing out the worst hypocrisy from the left. Neither side is any better than the other. They're just groups of flawed people.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I've always supported Kaepernick not standing for the anthem if he didn't feel comfortable. Forced patriotism is not cool. Meanwhile he doesn't vote and says it's a-okay |
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remember when kaepernick wore a Castro and chè shirt unironically?
and come election time he didn't even vote?
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Sexypwnstar posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...I've always supported Kaepernick not standing for the anthem if he didn't feel comfortable. Forced patriotism is not cool. Eh, a lot of people brag about voting because it gives them this weird sense of superiority. There's nothing noble about voting, even though there's this narrative telling us how important it is. Freedom to choose means freedom to choose not to vote. If you don't think your vote will do any good and don't feel like voting, don't.
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Sexypwnstar posted...EndOfDiscOne posted...I've always supported Kaepernick not standing for the anthem if he didn't feel comfortable. Forced patriotism is not cool. this is one of the most horrendous responses ever.
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Thanks
Also this doesn't apply to Kaepernick, but I'd rather have people note vote than vote uninformed.
Ulti was right
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No, he's entirely right. Kaepernick has done more for the causes he supports than a single vote ever could; we should stop fetis***ing electoral politics as the sole method through which change occurs (especially given the candidates on offer most of the time).
kin to all that throbs
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I've always supported Kaepernick not standing for the anthem if he didn't feel comfortable. Forced patriotism is not cool. Agreed |
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Thanks This. I had to stop talking to people for awhile because they were voting because Hilary was the devil or Trump would bring back Jim Crow. Just awful.
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FrisbeeDude posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...FrisbeeDude posted...Colin Kaepernick is blackballed from the NFL: Good riddance! .. .great response Also lmfao @ all the conservative bashing comments from liberals who don't watch football. @byron Antifar posted... No, he's entirely right. Kaepernick has done more for the causes he supports than a single vote ever could; we should stop fetis***ing electoral politics as the sole method through which change occurs (especially given the candidates on offer most of the time). Nope not true.
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PoopMcgee420 posted...
Also lmfao @ all the conservative bashing comments from liberals who don't watch football. cry more @PoopMcgee420 I've been watching football since you were pooping your diaper(AKA last year) #rekt #gotem
pretty sweet
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Antifar posted...
No, he's entirely right. Kaepernick has done more for the causes he supports than a single vote ever could; we should stop fetis***ing electoral politics as the sole method through which change occurs (especially given the candidates on offer most of the time). Bulls***. Encouraging others not to vote, especially in their local elections, is entirely stupid. CA had the death penalty on the ballot. He could have advocated ending that. There were ballot measures in San Jose, where his home was, regarding wages of low income workers and work cutting their hours. It is not hard to vote you can vote while supporting causes. Him glorifying not voting is a stupid model to set for an already lazy youth population. He should NOT be lauded for it just because you may agree with his other points. |
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byron posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Also lmfao @ all the conservative bashing comments from liberals who don't watch football. You can watch all you want. But its obviously too advanced for you to grasp
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PoopMcgee420 posted...
byron posted...PoopMcgee420 posted...Also lmfao @ all the conservative bashing comments from liberals who don't watch football. You can watch all you want. I played for 6 years. The only "sport" you played was yugimon
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this actually is a good analogy, way to keep the fight alive TC
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Balrog0 posted...
this actually is a good analogy, way to keep the fight alive TC @Balrog0 kaep isnt being blackballed tho. Learn2football
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Antifar posted...
No, he's entirely right. Kaepernick has done more for the causes he supports than a single vote ever could; we should stop fetis***ing electoral politics as the sole method through which change occurs (especially given the candidates on offer most of the time). I thought ethical consumption in capitalism was impossible, but you're saying him giving money to stuff is better than voting for someone who supports social programs idgi
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PoopMcgee420 posted...
Balrog0 posted...this actually is a good analogy, way to keep the fight alive TC Lol yes he most certainly is. Pretty hard to deny at this point
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FrisbeeDude posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Balrog0 posted...this actually is a good analogy, way to keep the fight alive TC I find it hard to believe in a league where women beaters and murderers play, that Kaepernick is being black balled because of kneeling and NOT because he sucks. If kaepernick was a top 10 QB he'd have found a team. I won't deny his political stance isn't seen as baggage, but you can't sit here and say he's black balled when guys like Greg Hardy were given the opportunity to play after their personal issues came about. sucking+baggage+expensive position=no team wanting you.
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Are we certain that Kaepernick got fired because of his protest, or was it because he was a s***ty QB the entire last season he played?
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EnragedSlith posted...
Romes187 posted...I don't know about others, but him being fired isn't what troubles me idgi |
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Mal_Fet posted...
Are we certain that Kaepernick got fired because of his protest, or was it because he was a s***ty QB the entire last season he played? that logic doesnt follow when this season multiple teams have signed 2nd and 3rd string QB's that are statistically worse than him. |
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FrisbeeDude posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Balrog0 posted...this actually is a good analogy, way to keep the fight alive TC Its extremely easy to see why hes not in the league. Hes not a good qb
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Mal_Fet posted...
Are we certain that Kaepernick got fired because of his protest, or was it because he was a s***ty QB the entire last season he played? He didnt get fired he QUIT
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