August 15, 2017

Why is Rick and Morty do goddamn weak this season?

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MJ_Max 1 day ago#1
What the f***
Pancake 1 day ago#2
mlp season 7 is amazing meanwhile *flex*
Go_Totodile 1 day ago#3
f*** I missed two weeks in a row now god damn it.
steveoSEK 1 day ago#4
Difficulties writing it, divorce happening to the show runner, etc.. 

Plus the length of time between 2 and 3 didn't help
WaterLink 1 day ago#5
Probably ran out of solid concepts to write on. Definitely feels way more forced this season so far.
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Go_Totodile 1 day ago#6
steveoSEK posted...
Difficulties writing it, divorce happening to the show runner, etc.. 

Plus the length of time between 2 and 3 didn't help

Tbf 3x1 was f***ing great.
DreadedWave 1 day ago#7
Writers think people watch it for family drama apparently.
CrimsonRage 1 day ago#8
What, no memes to repeat ad nauseum in tonight's episode?
MakoReizei 1 day ago#9
Pancake posted...
mlp season 7 is amazing meanwhile *flex*

lol you admitted to watching mlp
CrimsonRage posted...
What, no memes to repeat ad nauseum in tonight's episode?

*Rick laugh*
CirocObama 1 day ago#11
Episodes 1 and 3 were decent, 4 was average, 2 was meh.
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MJ_Max 1 day ago#13
There's this weird focus on serious plotlines that might be ok if the execution weren't so forced. There's just not many jokes, and also this weird over reliance on gore.
CirocObama posted...
That pickle episode wasn't funny.

None of the episodes in season 3 have been particularly funny.

I can't believe people actually thought the Szechuan dipping sauce joke was funny.
Medussa 1 day ago#15
I've liked every ep so far =/
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steveoSEK posted...
divorce happening to the show runner
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SSJKirby 1 day ago#17
Medussa posted...
I've liked every ep so far =/
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Pancake 1 day ago#18
lol you admitted to watching mlp

it's pretty f***ing strong right now and it just took a nice swing at the fanbase. people are actually butthurt over it.
steveoSEK 1 day ago#19
SSJKirby posted...
Medussa posted...
I've liked every ep so far =/
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steveoSEK posted...
The creator divorce is the biggest issue. Big time.


Which one is going through the divorce, Harmon or Roiland?
MabusIncarnate posted...
SSJKirby posted...
Medussa posted...
I've liked every ep so far =/
Doom_Art 1 day ago#23
CrimsonRage posted...
Which one is going through the divorce, Harmon or Roiland?

Harmon

And it shows in the writing bigtime
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WaterLink 1 day ago#24
CrimsonRage posted...
steveoSEK posted...
The creator divorce is the biggest issue. Big time.


Which one is going through the divorce, Harmon or Roiland?

Harmon. I said this once ep 2 was released that writing a divorce in the show while he was going through one might be a bad sign for the series.
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Xelltrix  black1 day ago#25
I thought the episodes 1 through 3 were hilarious.

I didn't like this one that much, though.
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steveoSEK 1 day ago#27
Pay attention to the logo screen at the end of the show. What used to be a family on a couch is now just a guy sleeping on the couch alone
Anyone ever seen Harmonquest? It's another show he made that was apparently pretty good.
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WDNR 1 day ago#29
SJWs demanded women be added to the writing staff. The last 3 episodes have been nothing but pure violent s*** with feminist undertones for Summer.
Maybe because you're all nerds with terrible tastes

It's just somewhat less entertaining than usual
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_Near_ 1 day ago#31
I actually liked this one. Definitely not as much as the first one, but more than episode 2.

MabusIncarnate posted...
Anyone ever seen Harmonquest? It's another show he made that was apparently pretty good.


Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Though I think the quality depends on the guest star.
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WDNR 1 day ago#33
IHeartRadiation posted...
Maybe because you're all nerds with terrible tastes

It's just somewhat less entertaining than usual

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Axiom 1 day ago#34
I enjoyed pickle rick and vindicators. The Summer episode was pretty meh
Esrac 1 day ago#35
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.
butthole666  self proclaimed mentally ill1 day ago#36
I like it so far
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Esrac posted...
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.
_Near_ 1 day ago#39
Dash_Harber posted...
It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


did you forget what site you're in?
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Tmaster148 1 day ago#40
_Near_ posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


did you forget what site you're in?


It's not the site as much as CE is a cesspool of people who just hate woman.
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IHeartRadiation posted...
Maybe because you're all nerds with terrible tastes

It's just somewhat less entertaining than usual

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Xelltrix  black1 day ago#43
This guy's going through a divorce and the writing is focused on divorce.



Clearly the women are messing with the story.
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Schwarber 1 day ago#44
WDNR posted...
SJWs demanded women be added to the writing staff. The last 3 episodes have been nothing but pure violent s*** with feminist undertones for Summer.


lmao
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Esrac 1 day ago#46
Dash_Harber posted...
Esrac posted...
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


Dash_Harber posted...
Esrac posted...
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


Saying "professional man is too incapable of handling his emotions that he completely wrecks show due to personal reasons" is a better assumption than a team of new writers? Lol k. SJ gon W
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Esrac 1 day ago#48
TimePharaoh posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Esrac posted...
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


Saying "professional man is too incapable of handling his emotions that he completely wrecks show due to personal reasons" is a better assumption than a team of new writers? Lol k. SJ gon W


I'm not being especially serious, but according to the full interview, most of the new female writers have very few writing credits attached to their resumes. I think the only show mentioned that the "veteran" of the 4 worked on was Robot Chicken. I don't think that's the only one, obviously, but I think it was the big one they mentioned. 

But, yes, changing up the writers on a show can impact it's quality or change it's direction a bit. For better or worse.
Medussa posted...
I've liked every ep so far =/
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    Im torn here because i think this season has been way too on the nose in its attempts to deal with 'serious' subject matter and yet at the same time i am CRINGING at all the man children blaming 'sjws' for it.


    Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show
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    Esrac posted...
    Dash_Harber posted...
    Esrac posted...
    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

    Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

    Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

    For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


    I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


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    NinjaBreakfast posted...
    Im torn here because i think this season has been way too on the nose in its attempts to deal with 'serious' subject matter and yet at the same time i am CRINGING at all the man children blaming 'sjws' for it.


    Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show


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    WaterLink 1 day ago#54
    NinjaBreakfast posted...
    Im torn here because i think this season has been way too on the nose in its attempts to deal with 'serious' subject matter and yet at the same time i am CRINGING at all the man children blaming 'sjws' for it.


    Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show

    The gazorpazorp episode did rip on women a good bit, wouldn't be surprised if that was at the top of many fans' list. 

    For me, I look at it as the first two seasons they were in the world-building phase. They did a great job of it. Now that the world is set up, I think they're having trouble, or maybe just being lazy, with using the established world to tell stories. 

    Like, they've been so over the top with gore and nihilism this season thus far, seems like they've embraced that identity and went on auto-pilot. Harmon's divorce and the divorce of Beth and Jerry and the effects on the family seem to be the focal point of episodes 2+3. And then this episode was just "superhero movies are dumb and this is why. Let's throw in some gore and some drunk Rick and some cynical Morty and you've got an episode". 

    There's really no new concepts they've played around with, other than S3 E1 with the brainalyzer and taking down the council and the galactic government, and even that was set up by the previous season. The love just doesn't feel like it's there anymore.
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    Thing is, they're upping the gore and nihilism presumably in order to completely 'deconstruct' rick at some point in the future rather than just for thr sake of it...and the contrived way theyve gone about it has made it a lot worse than just throwing together zany ideas imo
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    WaterLink 1 day ago#56
    NinjaBreakfast posted...
    Thing is, they're upping the gore and nihilism presumably in order to completely 'deconstruct' rick at some point in the future rather than just for thr sake of it...and the contrived way theyve gone about it has made it a lot worse than just throwing together zany ideas imo

    Im reserving judgment until the season is finished. But the thing is no matter how you spin it, previous seasons had their subtleties. Like trying to guess whether Rick cares or wants to care but doesn't have the capacity to. Morty's ignorance slowly evolving into understanding and thus nihilism (like this episode). It was the character development that made the show. There really hasn't been any development thus far. The characters have been pretty static since S3 E1, and any changes in attitude the characters may have the series seems to say "it's cause of the divorce". It's not because of some crazy adventure that went wrong, it's just the divorce. And then they throw some gore and crazy gadgets on top of it to gloss it all up. It just doesn't feel the same.

    Granted Harmon did say E4 was a weak episode long before it was ever released and said the next two episodes were top notch. So I'm reserving full judgment for now. But so far aside from E1 which was a continuation from the previous season it hasn't really struck much of a chord with me.
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    Dash_Harber posted...
    Esrac posted...
    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

    Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

    Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

    For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


    I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.

    There's two correlations going on here so you also can't say the bigger problem is the divorce. You don't know that. They could be both equal factors as to why quality dropped. I agree we can't blame solely one or the other but at the same time we can't dismiss one or the other as a lesser factor yet.
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    Xelltrix posted...
    This guy's going through a divorce and the writing is focused on divorce.



    Clearly the women are messing with the story.

    CE would blame women even if none were involved.
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    NinjaBreakfast posted...

    Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show


    They beat up an a****** in a montage of beating up a******s.

    The show isn't post modernist, it's nihilistic. It's not SJW but it absolutely doesn't give a f*** about identify.
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    Ivynn 1 day ago#66
    I've enjoyed the season so far, with the only weak episode being S3E2 (only because S3E1 was so good it was tough to follow). My only criticism is that Rick's character development seems to be ignored for his zany "give no f***s" attitude and seeing him do things without consequence and no hints that he actually cares deep down isn't quite as engaging.
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    I haven't seen ep 4 yet but 1 and 3 were great, with special mention going to 1. Pickle Rick was an awesome concept that I wish they'd turn into a Farcry style game.
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    What do you expect from a show written basically as a love letter to cancerous Redditors


    you really do nothing but regurgitate 4chan rhetoric don't you
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    Tmaster148 1 day ago#69
    Delirious_Beard posted...
    ZombiePelican posted...
    What do you expect from a show written basically as a love letter to cancerous Redditors


    you really do nothing but regurgitate 4chan rhetoric don't you


    I have him tagged as a bernie supporter who changed to a trump supporter. It wouldn't surprise me if he was just a 4chan user.
    creativerealms posted...
    Only the second episode was weak.

    This. A shame, because the concept was good enough.
    Dash_Harber 18 hours ago#71
    voldothegr8 posted...
    Dash_Harber posted...
    Esrac posted...
    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

    Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

    Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

    For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


    I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.

    There's two correlations going on here so you also can't say the bigger problem is the divorce. You don't know that. They could be both equal factors as to why quality dropped. I agree we can't blame solely one or the other but at the same time we can't dismiss one or the other as a lesser factor yet.

    Is this the first time the series has had any changes to the writing staff?
    butthole666  self proclaimed mentally ill18 hours ago#72
    TimePharaoh posted...
    Dash_Harber posted...
    Esrac posted...
    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/rick-and-morty-first-female-writers-adult-swim-dan-harmon-1201865720/

    Apparently, Rick and Morty is back and better than ever! Largely due to the four new female writers they added to the team, for some reason.

    Well, if season 3 is suddenly weaker than the two previous, that's a funny coincidence. 

    For the record, I think Season 3 has been okay so far.


    I think the bigger issue is the creator's divorce. He sort exercises the majority of creative control over the product. It's weird that you instantly jump to the conclusion that it's the women working for him and not the man in charge.


    Saying "professional man is too incapable of handling his emotions that he completely wrecks show due to personal reasons" is a better assumption than a team of new writers? Lol k. SJ gon W

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    ViewtifulGrave 17 hours ago#74
    NinjaBreakfast posted...
    Like they literally beat up nazis in a previous season; what made you think it was ever not a '''''sjw''''' show

    Beating up nazis is an SJW thing now?
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    NinjaBreakfast 17 hours ago#75
    well i mean given the amount of outraged people who think hitting a nazi makes you as bad as a nazi then yeah sure.

    Regardless of how flippant that point was, though, r&m has never ever suggested that it's a conservative show
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    WaterLink 17 hours ago#76
    NinjaBreakfast posted...
    well i mean given the amount of outraged people who think hitting a nazi makes you as bad as a nazi then yeah sure.

    Regardless of how flippant that point was, though, r&m has never ever suggested that it's a conservative show

    Why do political ideologies feel the need to claim TV shows as being on their side? Do you remember Raising Gazorpazorp? Lot of stereotypes about women and kind of clowning how a society of women would be like. 

    Besides, all these redneck conservatives people make fun of for being uber patriotic and loving the war aspect of America are the ones that get a boner over America being supreme in WWII. It's not like being conservative means you're more aligned with Nazi views, if anything the ones that are supremely anti-nazi and celebrate it the most probably also hail from the right because America beat their asses.
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    Dash_Harber 15 hours ago#77
    WaterLink posted...
    Lot of stereotypes about women and kind of clowning how a society of women would be like.


    Despite the goofiness, the episode made the woman's world a paradise. It wasn't exactly critical. They lived in advanced space crystal spires and wore togas and hadn't executed anyone in an inordinate amount of time.

    I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the few cracks they made about women was sort of overwhelmed by the fact that woman world was paradise while man world was the thunderdome.

    WaterLink posted...
    Besides, all these redneck conservatives people make fun of for being uber patriotic and loving the war aspect of America are the ones that get a boner over America being supreme in WWII. It's not like being conservative means you're more aligned with Nazi views, if anything the ones that are supremely anti-nazi and celebrate it the most probably also hail from the right because America beat their asses.


    That same stereotype also tends to exaggerate Hitler's skills and still blame Jews or other minorities for all sorts of social ills. They aren't really as much anti-Nazi as they are pro-America.
    MrMallard 15 hours ago#78
    This season has been entertaining in its own right. The Vindicators episode was great.

    I get what people mean about it feeling different, maybe losing its spark somewhere in its popularity, but it's still a fun show.
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    dotsdfe 15 hours ago#79
    I think people are just expecting too much from it. It really doesn't seem any worse than the previous seasons to me, I think expectations were just a bit too high.

    For what it's worth, the same thing happened between S1 and S2. I saw a lot of hate for every episode in S2 as they aired, but then people loved it in retrospect.

    I think that the season has been fine though. The Vindicators episode was probably my least favorite of the season thus far because I felt like the last half was a bit too straightforward (It was really obvious that we'd lose one in each room after the first so that dragged on for me), but even then, it had some funny jokes and I enjoyed it overall.
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    MemeDaddy 15 hours ago#80
    Go_Totodile posted...
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    What, no memes to repeat ad nauseum in tonight's episode?

    *Rick laugh*

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    Dash_Harber 15 hours ago#81
    dotsdfe posted...
    I think expectations were just a bit too high.


    To be fair, this is the first time the series has had ongoing storylines as the main focus, so that is bound to pique people's expectations.
    Kineth  BLM sympathizer15 hours ago#82
    It's not weak. It's great and still just as f***ing cerebral.
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