August 1, 2017

Venezuela is proof that the right to bear arms is absolutely crucial for freedom

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Transcendentia 7 hours ago#1
80/80

Hopefully the people who want to eliminate the right to bear arms take a long and hard look at why America has this right for citizens.
Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#2
This is actually something I agree is worth discussing.
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darkphoenix181 7 hours ago#3
inb4

"but guns vs. nuke won't work!"
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How would them owning guns have prevented their economy from collapsing? Does gun ownership somehow prevent the price of oil becoming cheaper?
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Transcendentia 7 hours ago#5
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?
Not even gonna take a stab at it?
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
Pretty sure if there's ANYTHING we've seen it's that violent uprising is the WORST possible choice, look to Syria for proof.
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Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#8
Transcendentia posted...
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?


He probably hasn't watched the news today but ya idk why he read freedom and instantly though "must be talking about the economy".
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Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#10
Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Pretty sure if there's ANYTHING we've seen it's that violent uprising is the WORST possible choice, look to Syria for proof.


Lol
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?


He probably hasn't watched the news today but ya idk why he read freedom and instantly though "must be talking about the economy".

Did Venezuela's troubles begin today or something? Do they not have an economy that has gone belly up? How would a gun have stopped the political climate that allowed Maduro to seize power?
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
hockeybub89 7 hours ago#12
Plenty of developed countries seem to be doing just fine.

Not that I want guns outlawed, but my reasons for such are not to fight tyranny.
Transcendentia 7 hours ago#13
hockeybub89 posted...
Plenty of developed countries seem to be doing just fine.

Not that I want guns outlawed, but my reasons for such are not to fight tyranny.


They seem to be doing fine now.
Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#14
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?


He probably hasn't watched the news today but ya idk why he read freedom and instantly though "must be talking about the economy".

Did Venezuela's troubles begin today or something? Do they not have an economy that has gone belly up? How would a gun have stopped the political climate that allowed Maduro to seize power?


I assume TC is talking about the political opponents that were black bagged.

Everything else you said isn't new and has very little to do with "freedom".

This topic was clearly about the first part.
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SpiralDrift 7 hours ago#15
I dunno... they seem pretty happy in their socialist utopia. Why would they even want to fight back?
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Zeeak4444 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?


He probably hasn't watched the news today but ya idk why he read freedom and instantly though "must be talking about the economy".

Did Venezuela's troubles begin today or something? Do they not have an economy that has gone belly up? How would a gun have stopped the political climate that allowed Maduro to seize power?


I assume TC is talking about the political opponents that were black bagged.

Everything else you said isn't new and has very little to do with "freedom".

This topic was clearly about the first part.

TC has made this same exact topic months ago. It's not in response to anything more than him wanting to wag his finger at CE's liberals about something he doesn't actually understand.
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
Axiom 7 hours ago#17
Proudclad topic #45352354543 about Venezuela or what he likes to the call "the perfect example of socialism"
Spooking 7 hours ago#18
Wasn't there somebody dropping grenades out of a helicopter in Venezuela a few weeks ago?
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hockeybub89 7 hours ago#19
Transcendentia posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Plenty of developed countries seem to be doing just fine.

Not that I want guns outlawed, but my reasons for such are not to fight tyranny.


They seem to be doing fine now.

This is what people with armories in their basement say
Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#20
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Transcendentia posted...
Is 3rd_Best_Master a troll?


He probably hasn't watched the news today but ya idk why he read freedom and instantly though "must be talking about the economy".

Did Venezuela's troubles begin today or something? Do they not have an economy that has gone belly up? How would a gun have stopped the political climate that allowed Maduro to seize power?


I assume TC is talking about the political opponents that were black bagged.

Everything else you said isn't new and has very little to do with "freedom".

This topic was clearly about the first part.

TC has made this same exact topic months ago. It's not in response to anything more than him wanting to wag his finger at CE's liberals about something he doesn't actually understand.


I wasn't aware of that my apologies.

I've seen a lot of discussion over the black baggings.

The topic title was worth the discussion like I said in post 2. I couldn't care about TC's position or agenda unless it makes for good discussion.

Edit: oh I wasn't aware TC was prouds new alt.
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CanuckCowboy 7 hours ago#21
Transcendentia posted...
take a long and hard look at why America has this right for citizens.


Lmao at thinking the citizens having rifles and handguns means they could take on the government in the 21st century. 

What an imagination you have.
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Transcendentia 7 hours ago#22
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...
take a long and hard look at why America has this right for citizens.


Lmao at thinking the citizens having rifles and handguns means they could take on the government in the 21st century. 

What an imagination you have.


Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!
ThePrinceFish 7 hours ago#23
I find it amusing that the same people who likely believe that the military is full of yeehaw 2nd amendment rednecks also think that in the event of an uprising against tyranny that the military would follow the government and massacre civilians.
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CanuckCowboy 7 hours ago#24
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.
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SpiralDrift 7 hours ago#25
Socialism defense force at it again.
Do unto others what your parents did to you.
Transcendentia 7 hours ago#26
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.


You have to be dull in order to really believe that an armed population would make no difference in a situation like this
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.

Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
ChainedRedone 7 hours ago#28
Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Pretty sure if there's ANYTHING we've seen it's that violent uprising is the WORST possible choice, look to Syria for proof.


"Stop fighting for freedom from a tyrannical government! Can't you see it's not worth it!"
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Turtlebread 7 hours ago#29
Exactly 

If Venezuelans had guns they could simply kill everyone in the government 

Semper fi
Zeeak4444 7 hours ago#30
3rd_Best_Master posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.

Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


Has proud actually claimed something similar to this?
Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X
Zeeak4444 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.

Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


Has proud actually claimed something similar to this?

Yes, the last time he made this topic. Which is why I asked him about it in this one.

Turtlebread posted...
Exactly 

If Venezuelans had guns they could simply kill everyone in the government 

Semper fi


His reasoning was eerily similar to this one right here, except more sincere.
You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master!
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ChainedRedone 6 hours ago#32
Zeeak4444 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.

Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


Has proud actually claimed something similar to this?


I think he's just using a straw man. I haven't seen anything but him post about Venezuela's economy.
CanuckCowboy 6 hours ago#33
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


I did not know that. 

Based on gun ownership per capita the Canadian dollar should only be worth 25 cents American! 

Canada need more guns before the dollar totally collapses!
"I got a rollatruc, look."
Transcendentia 6 hours ago#34
Zeeak4444 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
Transcendentia posted...

Better give up firearms and just accept the fate quietly! Into the meatgrinder you go!


Well that was a totally moronic and pointless reponse. I can see why you'd make this topic since you have such incredible knowledge and insight to share. 

Also I'm pro guns. Just not for a totally f***ing stupid and nonsensical reason.

Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


Has proud actually claimed something similar to this?


No, he's lying.
Tmaster148 6 hours ago#35
CanuckCowboy posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


I did not know that. 

Based on gun ownership per capita the Canadian dollar should only be worth 25 cents American! 

Canada need more guns before the dollar totally collapses!


Poor japan with their .6 guns per 100 residents even worse than Venuzula's listed 10.7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
CanuckCowboy 6 hours ago#36
Tmaster148 posted...

Poor japan with their .6 guns per 100 residents even worse than Venuzula's listed 10.7.


We should probly get a gun take over Japan and then arm everyone until it becomes the richest nation in the world. 

Didn't know japan was that anti gun tbh
"I got a rollatruc, look."
Tmaster148 posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Don't you know, the reason why America has such a strong economy is because of the 2nd Amendment! If only Venezuela had followed America's lead centuries ago they wouldn't be in this mess!


I did not know that. 

Based on gun ownership per capita the Canadian dollar should only be worth 25 cents American! 

Canada need more guns before the dollar totally collapses!


Poor japan with their .6 guns per 100 residents even worse than Venuzula's listed 10.7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

whoa, it seems like venuzula has guns 

how very strange
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Tmaster148 6 hours ago#38
CanuckCowboy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...

Poor japan with their .6 guns per 100 residents even worse than Venuzula's listed 10.7.


We should probly get a gun take over Japan and then arm everyone until it becomes the richest nation in the world. 

Didn't know japan was that anti gun tbh


Japan basically has a no gun policy with very few exceptions. I only really remember this, because of an anime i recently watched where this one person had airsoft guns, because of how owning a real gun is illegal.
Rika_Furude 6 hours ago#39
I mean gun control works in every country that inplements it
America is the only country thay has failed time and time again to implement gun control correctly
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Tmaster148 6 hours ago#40
Rika_Furude posted...
I mean gun control works in every country that inplements it
America is the only country thay has failed time and time again to implement gun control correctly


I largely blame the NRA, because they basically lobby for gun manufactures and gun manufactures want people to buy guns. Which means any kind of proposition being proposed through lobbying isn't in the interest of helping the people.
Lightsasori 6 hours ago#41
Rika_Furude posted...
America is the only country thay has failed time and time again to implement gun control correctly


How do you implement it correctly though?
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Ruvan22 6 hours ago#42
Wait.. is TC Proudcloud's alt?
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