Mud Riders10 months ago (edited)
I smell a lot of bullshit , same pattern, the dictator pattern. Yet nothing proved about his crimes. I lived part of his "dictatorship" and it was good. He fed his population with soy, tuna and natural things but all the western dreamers complained about the lack of food. It was just a lack of unhealthy foods. There were no starved people. It was indeed a lack of freedom but many people traveled all around the world.
All that bullshit with french hotels are pure lies. Hard to believe at his power and wealth he would steal things from a hotel.
Another bullshit it was about his ability to talk. If you watch the "trial" of Ceausescu you will be surprised about his coherency.
He drove Romania on a road of independence but not many could stand for sacrifice. Just talked with Japanese fellows and some of their parents ate only sweet potatoes for years. That means the sacrifice. They love their country and with sacrifice they got where they are.
Romanians just want money and wealth with no work and sacrifice. We have no pride, no nationalism, that's why we are where we are.
We point our fingers to wealthy countries but we don't work hard as they do.
I just wonder how many actual leaders would have the last words before their execution like Ceausescu did.
"Long life to the independent Romania"
Just think about it, if he was that stupid and rude makes him even greater. Having Russia refused, playing with the USA and Europe.
At least he was anti war, he refused to invade a friendly country. Just think about how propaganda works...
Mud Riders I agree with you 100%. He was trying to do something for his country only to have his greedy enemies execute him. I see the same hysteria and laziness here in the U.S. I find it hard to believe that Obama was elected twice.
I disagree with you. I lived under communism and people were starving. Being a kid at that time i still remember that we had no electricity after 8 or 9 o'clock in the evening. We had rations for milk, sugar, and other foods. My parents were working 2 shifts/day, maternity leave was 6 weeks and other crazy stuff. Soy and fish oil was in every food stuff. Rarely you could find meat and clothes or shoes.
It sounds like a personal problem to me you fucking murderer. Are you proud of yourself???
Do you have electricity now? What do you do with it.. ? Put a live wire up your ass??? You fucking mook
is this all you got? is this your answer to everything "go to hell". you have no idea about that period of time. why do you think we had a revolution in '89, because it was so awesome, sunshine and rainbows. I'm not an american and I don't want to be... if we talk about murder, and you are an american, just have a look in your own garden, then talk about other countries.
@dimitri
Soy and fish are good for your body, mate.
I don't know where have you lived but I had clothes and shoes on me.
Anyway let's keep the conversation friendly, there's no need for insults.
Well said Mud Riders. People in the west tend to lie about the eastern bloc a lot
Mud Riders , well said....however, if the brits, with the inbred monarchy, lapdogs for the Americans, made the documentary it must true.....isn't it where civilization was invented? or so they say
Only those who expected food from the sky were starving . If you talk about rations , well , thats how socialism works .... everybody gets the same amount , not one is starving and the other gets 10 , people are greedy you know . As my grandma said you got only 2l of milk but it was better this way because those 2l would often get rotten before you consume them. You had a revolution because nobody in the world wants an independent and powerful country with 0 debt .Suck the cock of mister Iliescu , look how rich and free we are now in a democracy . I fucking hate greedy assholes like you who cry for having ratios
I guess Mud Riders' experience differed, because his Papa was in Securitate (Ceaucescu's secret police, the one's who killed Romanians who had enough of Ceaucescu when it had gotten so bad that even the ARMY wouldn't support him anymore) or in a similar position that benefitted from and supported the regime.
It was similar in East Germany, albeit not NEARLY as bad as Romania and the other former East Bloc countries. East Germany was the most wealthy of them all I think, even though the USSR kept plundering ressources and goods (like Uranium mining for example) for DECADES after they had originally plundered Germany for reparations.
Those who worked for the regime for example as STASI Agents (StaSi = slang term for MfS - Ministerium für Staatssicherheit; Ministry for State Security "The Sword and the Shield" of the party; StaSi is the acronym for StaatsSicherheit) got extra rations of everything, they and high party members could shop in special stores that had goods from the West, etc.
There was even a special living area near Berlin, where all the party Big-Shots lived, a gated & guarded community of Villas, West-Goods stores, exotic fruits like Bananas, Pineapples, etc. whereas the normal people had to be happy with potatoes, chicken, apples.
I have plenty of family in the states that were former East German (German "Democratic" Republic). They were lucky, because they had us to send them essentials and goodies. Others not so much. Many people from there told me the first time they went into a West-store after the Wall came down they had to touch EVERYTHING to see if it was real, because East German television had told them that what they saw on West-TV was propaganda and the large selection of food etc. was fake props and not real.
I can only imagine how much worse it must have been in Romania, when Ceaucescu decided to pay off all of Romania's debt at once. Being a debt free nation is not necessarily a bad thing, in fact I think EVERY nation should strive for paying off their debt and running on a deficit free budget. But Romania wasn't Libya and simply didn't have the large oil wealth and Gaddafi's trade connection. I think one major reason why they supported Gaddafi's downfall was that Libya was one of the handful of nations that had ZERO debt (foreign or otherwise) and plenty of social benefits. Now Libya also has large debts, ever since he is gone. Go figure.
Rations for food is not starving ?You're just melancholic for some communist bullshit.
He alsoi seems to forget that women were forced to have mandatory check ups if they were pregnant. Contraception was forbidden, it was a woman's duty by law to get pregnant and massively increase birth rates. Increasing birth rates SHOULD be done in the west but NOT like this. So many children landed in orphanages because women/families simply couldn't afford them, thanks to this insane policy.
"it was a woman's duty by law to get pregnant"- yeah, that's bullshit.
I heard a lot of non-roumanian reapeting it , because some foreing "doctor" made that asumption and it automatially became "the reallity" for news outlets who need it a cachy title.
Contraception was not "forbitten" , just not available. Nobody check if you fallowed the calendar method of pulling out.- and because communism were very keen on education, you had the knowledge
And nobody forced you to get pregnant- how the fuck would that work?
And women did not abandonned their kids because they could not afford it - daycare was entirely free, there were allomoney for the kids, and if you had 4 or more kids there was a big money bonus from the goverment each mounth.The mothers who did it , did it for the same reason as other nationality has abandonned kids.
In the late years , Ceusecu got crazy and paranoid. It looked to him as the ppl weren't working enought for the end goal .. so he started to tighten the screws.. food ration, no electricity in the evening ..mad dictatorship's kind of things...
But in the 80's , things were actually kind of nice for the common non- political ppl -everybody employed, free education for everybody, everybody afford vacation and going out at least once a week...
And you just can't deny the acomplishes of communism- roads, factoryes, big industrial platforms, irrigation and modern agriculture , citys , schools , hospitals , hydro-power plant nuclear power plant...Roumania had no external debt, it was owed money from some country...
Yes , there was no liberty of political expresion.. but for the common man...well...having food and a job and security of tommorow seems more important
Yes, it was. Women were checked all the time if they had their period or not, that was MANDATORY, even for teenage girls. And if they MISSED their period they would fall even under closer scrutiny with immediate pregnancy test etc. so they won't even try to have an abortion. If a woman was (un)lucky enough to miscarry, she would be interrogated and checked further by doctors etc.
Of course they were not forced to get pregnant, but they made sure no contraception was available, abortion was illegal. Pulling out doesn't always work, silly, there's this thing called pre-cum.
The comments I made have nothing to do with "accomplishments". The fact is that while there were SOME accomplishments he ended up ruining Romania financially and in many other ways. One can make such progress (the little he achieved) WITHOUT smelly Communists.
EDIT: Besides you're not even Romanian, you dolt. You can neither spell Romania, nor Ceausescu's name. So don'T try to tell people what was good and what wasn't, what was important for the people and what wasn't important, you illiterate dunce. I am not Romanian either, but I know much more about this subject than you do + I know many Romanians plus half of my family are East German (which was FAR wealthier than Romania), so don't come here with your bullshit about how Communism was good and the people were happy.
dumb ass, how old are you ?
Bineinteles ca sunt roman , cretinule, si sunt suficient de invarsta ca sa stiu despre ce vorbesc, am trait pe vremea comunistilor. Prostiile astea cu verificarea mestruatiei ..esti dus rau cu pluta, baietas.
Should I translate to you, or you are so impresivly informed about Roumania , that you don't need anybody telling you anything?
Of course, SOME people benefit from all dictatorships. The secret police get better pay, better prospects, better accommodation and better rations than the civilians. Also informers receive benefits from totalitarian regimes. And traitors, too. Also their families. This is no surprise. PS: water is "good for your body" but toxic and lethal at high levels. Oxygen is
"good for your body" but toxic and lethal at high levels.
Bullshit! What an idiotic ideolog you must be to speak in that way, about the terror that was the Ceaucescu regime.
NO Communist country has ever achieved welfare, wealth, health and freedom.
dimitri nobody was starving. cut the crap please. nobody was starving. there was a lack of imported goods. if you think that was the sacrifice .. to have bananas and oranges only in the winter time for christmas but to be debt free i think it was a good trade. i lived my childhood in communism and it wasnt as bad as people like you portray it. the shit hit the fan starting with `85 but it was all engineered. the food stocks were full but almost nothing was sent to the stores and ceausescu had no idea about it. he was not a saint but far from the image projected shortly before and after his execution.
dimitri marzaev, ask any of romanins older then 40s if they or others have die of hunger, yes ther was lack of meat and heat electricity, but we chood survive like that becouse the purpose was biger then owerselff, maybe the bigest mistake of Cheausescu was to not make public what hi was douing and why we have sucth aa lack of food and other stuff, hi
dident thell us haw big the romania debts wer and only thru this sacrifice will be able to pay the back.
it was not, but it was not Cheausescu fault, that is the gridy ppl witch workt ther they was stealing the food and everithing else from ther.
m8 securitate was the resson why revolution have been started they started and actualy it was 1 single man witch order to shoot and like any good soldier you will have to respect that order, or you will be shot onsite, simple as that.
Lexu Iosub what a naive view of things.. Even if it was true, and Ceausescu was not directly responsible for causing the cuts in rations, for the electricity situation and for the many other ills of Romanians, and even if he was not aware of these things - as you claimed - it's still his fault.
After all as the undisputed leader of Romania it was his responsibility to know. It was his responsibility to find out and rectify this situation. Even if what you say was true - which it wasn't - and he didn't know because i.e. the people around him were too afraid (or for whatever other reason) to tell him the truth of the economic situation and of other problems, he is still to blame for chosing these people and putting them into positions of power and/or for making them his advisors.
So yeah... even if what you said would have been reality - which it wasn't - he was still ultimately responsible and culpable. But it doesn't matter either way, since it's not even remotely true. You are either being naive or you are lying on purpose.
u call me naive, can u analise what you just say? haw can a person be resposibell for something witch never did or order to be done, the ppl around him have doen everithing posibell for him to not find what is realy going on hi was blind like a bat that is the treu. and this things is hapening all over the world in high positions like his ppl cant and will not know everithing simple as that.
I don't like repeating myself. I already explained it to you. A leader is responsible for what is happening in his country. Even more so if he is an absolute/authocratic leader. End of story.
"i lived my childhood in communism and it wasnt as bad as people like you portray it"
You are suffering from something called NOSTALGIA. It is a common disease of the brain which makes the infected person think his childhood was the best time of his life.
so basically what you just did was to give an opinion on the situation in romania based on what u heard from your relatives in east germany. are you jewish mate?
rations is not starving. actually rations were calculated and they were enough for every single individual. the only problem was.. people wanted more... and more.. and more.. and they got that after 1989. they could go buy whatever they wanted and that's what they did.. but because the currency was devalued their money were shit so in order to buy whatever they were dreaming on .. they had to go to the banks... western banks... to borrow money to get shit and shit they got. now every single romanian is in debt. their kids are in debt and they grandchildren are in debt. 10 generations from now on will be in debt. that means they will be controlled. whoever borrowed them the (virtual) money got total control over them. in other words they are fucked. you didnt like ceausescu....deal with the jews that brought you communism and killed him.
HAahahahahaha. A Communist/Communist Sympathizer asking others if they are Jewish. Now that is hilariously ironic. Oh my..
No, not just what I heard from the relatives. We could visit them, whereas they were not allowed to leave. It is a fact that East Germany was vastly wealthier than Romania. We also visited Hungary multiple times, as we lived only 30 minutes from the border town of Sopron. Hungary was one of the most favourite places for Red Army soldiers to be posted, because the Communism was more relaxed, and it was not as shitty as other places (like ROMANIA). So I saw for myself how SHIT it really was. Both countries fared much better than Romania, especially once Ceausescu had the brilliant idea of paying off all the foreign debt at once. He was a clown and delusional to top it off. He tried buying jet airliners from Britain and offered to pay with strawberries and other useless things, because Romania was too broke to pay in hard currency.
And like I told you before I know Romanians who live here now. Like someone from the Pop family and others.
Lexu Iosubvor 2 Tagenm8 securitate was the resson why revolution have been started they started and actualy it was 1 single man witch order to shoot and like any good soldier you will have to respect that order
^^^ This shows what a subhuman pig you are. I served in the army of my country and in France as well. I don't care what's what I would never obey an order to shoot at my fellow Germans, unless it was a Communist/Leftist uprising trying to take power. Then there would be no need to order me to shoot. But other than that, there is no way I would shoot at my own people, especially if all they want is to be allowed to express an opinion without the fear of someone reporting them and then be arrested and/or tortured or harassed etc.
Fuck you and fuck Ceausescu and fuck the PCR.
Beware Of The Austro Kraut i'm far from supporting communism. not the one that was imposed on most of the eastern bloc. the idea alone is not bad but like every other system when applied on humans, failed. it failed and was an engineered fail by the same zionists who invented this form of capitalism we live in today. i asked you if you a are a jew and you answered with another question. you a jew and a low quality one otherwise you wouldnt post like an idiot in here. romania had the resources. had and still hace gas and oil. romania can produce it's own energy without imports. romania controlled 8% of the steel market under ceausescu. romania was thr main producer or cereals in europe during the same period. romania had a functional industry unlike east germany and hungary. you havent been in romania but you know it wasnt as wealthy as east germany. fucking manipulative jew. one day mate....one day....
Yes, one day... one day what? Easy to talk tough on the internet, boy. Different story in real life. I'm not a Jew. If I was, I'd probably be way more ameniable to Communism. After all it was one of the best tools to oppress, exploit and murder the goyim.
So tell me this: If I am so wrong about Romania, how come Red Army soldiers preferred staying in Hungary over most other Warsaw Pact countries, INCLUDING Romania?
East Germany and Hungary had no functional industry? Haha. Delusional idiot. East Germany was the largest economy in the Eastern Bloc after the Soviet Union, even though unlike Romania and the others it suffered from brain drain and constant loss of manpower due to defections. Most of the country's intelligentsia ran away before the construction of the Berlin Wall and the inner German border fences and "protection". Yet it performed economically BETTER than Romania, Hungary, Poland, Albania, etc. I guess that is because of the inherent superiority of us Germans, but that's beside the point. Life in the GDR was shitty and miserable. But it was still better than in Romania. Just because Romania is still a poor country under democracy and "capitalism" (there is no real capitalist country, as the government interferes everywhere and regulates the markets, etc.) and because there is corruption (which you most definitely also had under Communism) doesn't mean Communism was good and that the people were happy. And like I said before... the USSR never stopped plundering East Germany. In fact 1/4 of all the USSR's Uranium came from East Germany. They also took away East German engineers and other qualified people and made them work on projects in Siberia and other places in the USSR. And still East Germany was BETTER than Romania.
Almost nobody there wants it back. Only the stupid and uneducated, who can't find work because they dropped out of school and didn't learn a trade. And of course some of the farmers, because they could abuse the system and steal from the state, due to such highly intelligent programs where the state bought i.e. a pig for (just an example and not accurate price) 45 Mark and then sold it to for 30. Many farmers would buy the pigs (and other animals) back at the cheaper price and sell it to the government again and again. Of course they lament the fall of Communism.
Also you don't have to believe me, you can do your own research. Most fact books and sources will tell you that out of all Eastern Bloc countries the best developped, wealthiest and the ones with highest UN Human Development Index was the GDR, followed closely by Hungary and CSSR (they alternate depending on the criteria). That's a fact. I am sorry that you are so blinded by patriotism/nationalism and Romano-Communist fervor that you fail to see it, but it's the ugly truth. Romania was dirt poor. I would say the only Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact nation that was worse off was probably Analbania.
[UN Human Development Index is based on 3 factors: Life Expectancy, GDP - probably per capita - and Education (Adult Literacy and Gross Enrollment)]
Among the citizens of the USSR the GDR was also seen as best and wealthiest place of the Eastern Bloc.
You are a complete idiot!!!I am Romanian, I lived under his dictatorship, we were starving and freezing , we couldn't talk to our neighbors about the system if we wanted to stay alive, we had no rights, no freedom ,nothing , we were suppressed and poor, the hospitals had no bandages, no electricity sometimes, no medicine, we were brainwashed since childhood and starving, starving, starving !!Iif we complained we were send into hard labour or incarcerated by Securitate, what do you know about our lives, how dare you!!!!! We were scared al of the time. we lived in terror,in poverty,we were and are lost generations due to a psycopath , an evil man, I left Romania 30 years ago and never been happy because my country will never recover from al that evil, maybe in a hundred years long after I will be gone.Stop talking about things you do no know and will never understand!!!
Exactly. Many people do not understand that Romania is still poor because it takes a long time to recover from the catastrophic economic policies of Ceausescu. Germany is the richest country in the EU, but the former East Germany states are still signifcantly POORER than the rest of the country, because it takes time to recover. I have told the original commenter and a few idiots in the thread the same thing, that they are stupid, naive and dangerously deluded about Romania under Ceaucescu.
ther ar to many intrests in Romania m8, witch keep us poor, to many coorporations and states from EU and US, incloudet Russians prevent us to get up from the mud becouse ther ar allots of things to rub in my country.
@luminita mocanu, so, you lived under communist, and you are female.
did they checked up your mestrual cicle like @beware of austro knut said? Do you have at least 5 children ? Do you have 4 siblings ?...
lol..Guys, this dude, is, by his own admition not- roumanian , did not lived under communism, so all he knows is PROPAGANDA. And belives it no matter the craziness of it . It is pointless to argue with him.
To your point ,miss luminita, nobody said it was wonderfull, especially in the latest years - the 90.
But I, today, have a harder life then my parents had in those days.- work longer hours , have less security and less leisure and much more responsabilitys, at the same economic / social level.
Because if you came here, I will show you how we can't afford to live in the flats that Ceausescu gave almost for free. I'll show you how we can;t build any new road - we scramble to maintain the old ones he build.And I'll show to you the scholar abandonment statistics.
I'll show you how entire vineyards were distroid, entire forest dissapeared, hole irigation system dissapeard and never replaced , how the granery of Europe today IMPORTS grain.
I'll show you all the factoryes - big industrial platforms- building
abandonned , machines sold for the scrap iron.. they look LIKE A WAR was wagged on our teritory...
That's why we are poor today , not because communism,
@speedy Those are just myths.Women were not checked like that ,or forced to have children.But like it was said before , condoms were not a thing and people had no sexual education.
yes, somnivers, I know, I was quating @beware of..."Roll up
Beware Of The Austro Kraut
" Women were checked all the time if they had their period or not, that
was MANDATORY, even for teenage girls. And if they MISSED their period they would fall even under closer scrutiny with immediate pregnancy test etc "
@speedy .I know , i was following the comments.But some of his comments are true.Not this one regarding girls being checked.
tanti nu mai abera. sansele ca tu sa mori de foame si de frig inainte de 89 sunt practic nule. nu aveai cum sa fii saraca. nu aveai practic pe ce sa cheltui salariul pe o luna.
and guys.. stop listening to this piece of shit motherfucking cunt astro caca. he is doing it on purpose. that's the text book trolling/propaganda. it was very important for all the jews that came in power after they assassinated ceausescu, to blame everything on comunism. that's how they survived. they blamed everybody else. they managed to assimilate russia with communism not saying that it was the jews who invented it in the first place and then spreading it all over the world. they blame hitler but not stalin. hitler was not a jew but a jew puppet. stalin on the other hand was a jew like lenin trotsky beria and all the others. never forget that on the russians tanks in '46 was ana pauker aka hannah rabinsohn and not russians. iliescu, roman ( real name neuländer ), tariceanu, ilie sarbu, vacaroiu, mugur isarescu, berceanu, orban, basescu, constantinescu, dracnea, ponta and many many others are all jews. ceasuescu was a simple peasant with a simple mind but he loved his country and did what he could for it.
Somnivers maybe it is a myth, but I have seen interviews with Romanian women from the 70s 80s and so on who said it happened and that when they were teenagers they were scared of it because they didn't know what the doc was checking down there.
However the economic figures are there for everyone to look up if they care to do it. Besides I know what I saw when I saw East Germany (when it was still East Germany and now) and Hungary when it was stilled ruled by the Communists. No wonder the Hungarians were so eager to fuck up the Jews in WW2 under Horthy and later Ferenc Szalaszy after all they already had Jew Commies in power after WW1 with Bela Kun etc.
Tu nu esti romanca, esti o tradatoare de patrie, milioane de romani au indurat, nimeni nu a murit de foame in Romania doar cei ca tine si familia ta care erau niste putori ordinare si nu munceau nu aveau ce pune pe masa, caci de voiau libertate, sa iti intre bine in cap libertatea este doar o iluzie. da acum avem libertate avem de toate in magazine dar nu sunt bani, pentru ca banii iau furat tradatorii ca tine care visau la libertate pe timpul lui ceausescu si care lau omorit pina la urma sa aibe libertatea de a fura.
Somnivers, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Astrorunt does not know anything about Roumania, the situation, the politics, the economics....it is just a troll repeating propaganda that he does not understand.
"maybe it is a myth, but I have seen interviews .."
I can show you written declaration of ppl from the 1300 that they were cursed and bewiched. You think it happened ?!
"down there "...LOL..are you 12 or something ?
You can't tell if a women had her period that month just by checking "down there ", you need an echography for that. You can't tell if she is pregnent either, if the pregnancy is in the first month
What you probably saw and did not understand, or you have eated up the propaganda , was a general check up - they did it throught the school system just as they did vaccination , for the STATISTIC PURPUSES.
They checked at a certain age the height, the weight and the general development of teenegers - after that they developed all kinds of strategies - medical, social , economic- upon theese statistics
@Beware Of The Austro Kraut I never heard of women being mandatory checked.There was a lot of crazy stuff going on in that era so I can't entirely exclude this ,most certainly it was not a known thing like the fact that abortion was illegal.
Sint romanca si tradator esti tu, toti munceam, eram OBLIGATI sa muncem, daca acum aveti libertate dar nu bani e pentru ca sitnteti atit de idioti ca vreti totul usor si repede, eu nu am furat nimic ignorantule, nu aveam ce fura, nu exita nimic,nici mincare , numai cozi si ratiuni la zahar si la carne idiotule!!!Am plecat din Romania in 1982, traiesc in Grecia, tara democratiei, citeste vreo carte ,L-as fi ucis eu pe Causescu daca as fi putut, paranoicul , needucatul, el a fost hotul si mincinosul, a distrus generatii intregi,probabil ca paraziti ca tine erau in Securitate, sau taica-tul poate a fost, tu si neamul tau sinteti tradatori, numai asa se explica ca aveati ce minca in vremea lui Ceausescu, numai tradatorii si scirbele care te vindeau pentru nimic aveau ce minca!!!!!! Daca iti e dor de el dute si intra in pamint liga el, ca viermii ca tine numai in pamint merita sa traiasca!!!!
No, they never checked my menstrual cicle, I don't have any children and I am an only child. Romanian people hardly had more than one child.
I left Romania in 1982, I remember being scared all the time, an hungry , even if my mother was a doctor, but we had nothing to buy with our money, I worked also for a while, but the money had no value, and we could'nt even talk to our friends about the political situation without risking prison or hard labour, there were traitors everywhere. My mother gave me an abortion when I become pregnant because it was illegal , the doctor who was daring to perform it was imprisoned and his licence revocked there were girls who were using knives and hangers to do it and then were dying from infections, my abortion was done on the floor of my house...so many bad memories...I can understand that things are very bad now also, because Romania needs more than 100 years to recover from what she had lost more then two and a half decades of dictator. I can understand that there is a chaotic situation , and is only natural, and I can understand that some things were good before, like education, industry and free houses and medical care, but it was so little believe me comparing to the terror in wich we lived constantly and the brainwashing we were submitted since childhood... remember that today is only the result of yesterday. I wish you the best and believe me I am Romanian to the soul and I love my country , I will till the day I die, even if my childhood and my youth were almost distroit.
like a sayd to this traitor whore luminita mocanu , she and her parents like fredom, that is why they run from Roumania, her mother was a doctor, o my, you cant even imagine what kind of life they have, everithing you wish for, and she sayd they had no food fuking lier bitch, note this, in thows time to be a doctor means to live like a king, taking bribery from evrione witch step in to the hospital, money, meat, all kind of rare products, witch others can only dream of, and she try to thell me and to other roumanian, she have suffer, no she and her perents dident left Romania becouse they suffer they run from roumania becouse they broke the law.
Lexu Iosub.You are a fucking retarded! You idiot, being a doctor meant that you get some soap or deodorant, you call that living like a king, you are probably 12 years old and you need to grow up and get you story right, what law to break, you couldn't even whisper about the political situation, Securitate was everywhere, you could go to prison and never come back, fuck you, fuck Ceausescu and fuck communism, I suffered so much ,I wish you the same you bastard, I wish you will live in hunger, terror and long freezing winters without heat, and eat only potatos and bread, I curse you to live like that for a year and then come to me and tell me about you life as a fucking king!!! And if you want to call someone a whore, that is your mother!!!!
Everytime I see some "progressive"/liberal/leftwing idiots complain about how we live in a "Police State" in the west (EU or USA) or they talk about how Communism was a good thing, I think they should be immediately tracked down by the authorities and deported to North Korea and forced to live in a REAL police state with a crazy Stalinist communism for minimum 1 month.
I bet when they come back (IF they don't get stuck into labour camp for their constant bitching and whining) they would kiss the feet of every politician from center right to far right + of every police officer they encounter, and then thank God that they were born in the West.
Mud Riders His population? Go and live in Zimbabwe. You obviously like tin pot dictator types.
Dude, the man was a pig. What about that crazy palace that was so big he couldn't even HEAT it?
luminita mocanu What to expect from USA a world power that killed Ceaușescu because stay in their way .Like always the invadator/evel write the history of a country that made IT slave after asasinated hid president in 1989 along with Rusia ,Hungary that participated and a lot of other countries .USA ,Rusia and other countries made a diabolic plan to make people hungry without Ceaușescu acknowledgement to blaim the dead body after 1989 until present . In this propaganda video there are all only lies and false ideas .We were the first country in human history that has zero debts and this made a lot of countries invidios .They need to denigrate our patriot Ceaușescu that no one to follow his example in order that Romania tot be independent from FMI ,BCE so on .USA is the Devil and other countries that suck of our Romania blood .All traitors should be ashame, If they have IT.
Geto Traco-Dac Independent and rich while the population was starving and ignorant.No, I don't miss him or the communist regime.
Somnivers From 1945 until 1958 was a communism regim when Gheorghe Dej get out from country the Rusia army and all strangers that rule Romania ,a part of strangers Ceaușescu can not get ride of IT and now after 1989 until present we are rule by Gypsy Iliescu, Constantinescu ,Basescu jews , Iohanis german and all their fucking alogen friends ,of course with the help of traitors .From 1958 until 1989 was a national socialism rule .We were intoxicated by the communists after 1989 and all problems were redirected to Ceaușescu family murdered by the strangers and traitors who stolen the power after 1989.Like Ceaușescu will never have again a good Parent and a good patriot .In next 100 years our Race will be erased from Earth .More then 10 milions of geto-daco-romanians were forced by communists and capitalists after 1989 to leave their countries to be slave outside borders ,thier children 80-90% will take the Guess country language and will be converted there ,they will never come back home ,this is a sad true and all trolls known that.If we will not wake up including trolls they will not have anymore a natural bread to eat.
Ahahahahaha, haahahahahahah hahahahahahahaha. You are too funy, Gypsy Traitor-Jew. Ceausescu was a National Socialist and his regime was National Socialist?!?! Hahahaha. I think you have snorted too much glue, Gypsiannis Schlomo Feinstein-Ziganescu.
I think National Socialism is a very good political system, but what you had in Romania is FAR from it. Just because Ceausescu the simpleton copied a handful of aspects of it (such as trying to get away from foreign debt and autarky), doesn't mean that he was one. He was a Stalinist/Kimist (like NOrth Korea Kim dynasty) Communist, nothing more, nothing less.
ELENA CEAUCESCU SCIENTIST OF WORLD REKNOWN sing come sing along you dirty Judeo-Gypsy.
Geto Traco-Dac Do you think that people left because of those other presidents?Lots of people I know left the very next years after the so called revolution.Of course people leave the country.Yes, Ceausescu did many great things, but at the expense of the people who were suffering.He was a dictator,just like the president of North Korea.
Actually many things were very similar to North Korea and most likely you know it.From good rations, intentional obstruction of any kind of information, punishment and death for anyone who had something to say against the regime.Who was that brought down Romanian industry, ruined factories ,bought them piece by piece to transport them in their own country ?Russians.
People left the country because they had nothing from Ceausescu era, except their communist flats.Yes those were great ,better than the ones they are building now, but that's about it.It is what it is.Those are hard times for Romanians, but no way in hell I would want to go back to the 80's Romania.
Somnivers did you look at the link I posted, where the women at least partially back what I said about mandatory check ups? I admit that I made the mistake of assuming it was all over the country, but apparently it was "only" in certain parts/schools and for female factory workers. But that's still bad enough. See I don't make shit up, I always try to give sources for what I say, even if they don't always agree with me 100 % or are to my disadvantage.
Beware Of The Austro Kraut I did not,didn't have time for it until today.But hey, there are many crazy things that happened during that era so nothing surprises me.I remember Radio Free Europe ( yes everyone knows it was an anti-communist propaganda radio ),people got years in jail just for listening to that radio.Everyone lived in fear and suspicion all the time,at every 10 people 1 was a snitch for the secret service.The secret service (Securitatea) went to extremes to keep everyone ignorant and scared,that is how Ceausescu ruled the country.
Like I said before, he did many great things for the country, not so many for the people.Ceausescu and his family lived in luxury and abundance , not like the common people.There are many videos on the internet where the people present Ceausescu's luxury items.For example, it was illegal to own foreign coin , but his daughter Zoia had plenty of US dollars at her place.She even had a golden scale in her house, imagine that,expensive jewelry,tons of foreign products no Romanian was able to legally obtain.
Just one VHS video cassette player could be sold 5-6 times a month salary ,in that era.Imagine paying like 2500 euros or more for a VHS player , just to watch a couple of Bruce Lee movies.
It's not even worth talking about it, people who loved him ,would do great in North Korea.
Somnivers it was like East Germany in that aspect then (Securitatae). They - the Stasi - had somewhere around a quarter million people as regular informants apart from their thousands of official employees. There were even cases where husbands reported on wives and vice versa. Crazy times.. one can go to the archives and read their own Stasi files to see who snitched on you (if someone did) etc. I hope you can do the same in Romania, so you know who's ass to beat or whom to avoid.
