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LanHikari10 19 hours ago#1
Zanzenburger 19 hours ago#2
*Grabs popcorn*
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Irony 19 hours ago#3
Since when was broken street dates against the rules?
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AverageCEgal 19 hours ago#4
So more protection for trolls
Metua 19 hours ago#5
Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


SBAllen, you silly goose!
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ZombiePelican 19 hours ago#6
As if any of you will adhere to these new rules and won't continue being terrible
SBAllen 19 hours ago#7
Metua posted...
Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


SBAllen, you silly goose!

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KingCrabCake 19 hours ago#8
Wait so cuck is now gonna he moddable?

Finally the fad/meme will die!!
Waaaah.
Genocet_10-325 19 hours ago#9
AverageCEgal posted...
So more protection for trolls


How are you getting that from these changes?
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Metua 19 hours ago#10
SBAllen posted...
Metua posted...
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SBAllen, you silly goose!

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WilliamPorygon 19 hours ago#11
So if I'm understanding this right, things that would have been deleted with no karma loss before will not be deleted but the poster will get a note from a mod saying "hey, that's against the rules technically" and things that would have been deleted with 3 karma loss before will be deleted with 0 karma loss now?

Is that right?
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Genocet_10-325 19 hours ago#12
WilliamPorygon posted...
So if I'm understanding this right, things that would have been deleted with no karma loss before will not be deleted but the poster will get a note from a mod saying "hey, that's against the rules technically" and things that would have been deleted with 3 karma loss before will be deleted with 0 karma loss now?

Is that right?


Yes
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kyujo 19 hours ago#13
Irony posted...
Since when was broken street dates against the rules?

good while I'm pretty sure

Often had to be careful of that on game boards
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SBAllen 19 hours ago#14
WilliamPorygon posted...
So if I'm understanding this right, things that would have been deleted with no karma loss before will not be deleted but the poster will get a note from a mod saying "hey, that's against the rules technically" and things that would have been deleted with 3 karma loss before will be deleted with 0 karma loss now?

Is that right?

Yes and no. The basic premise is right but it isn't that black and white. Some things will still always be NKL'd.
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KingCrabCake 19 hours ago#15
@Irony wtf is broken street dates anyway
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LanHikari10 19 hours ago#16
KingCrabCake posted...
@Irony wtf is broken street dates anyway

Say a video game releases in a week. If someone were to post on here that they're currently in chapter three of that game because they got it a week early, that'd be breaking the street date.
SBAllen 19 hours ago#17
KingCrabCake posted...
@Irony wtf is broken street dates anyway

If a game is officially release on January 31st but you get the game on the 28th for whatever reason (store sold it early, someone shipped it early). People posting early screenshots, story summaries, etc is the kind of stuff that gets us contacted by lawyers. Someone just saying "I got my copy early, yay!" won't, and would be NWD territory so we can warn them not to discuss the details.
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pieisthebest 19 hours ago#18
So would a post that is "light flaming" get removed, or would it instead stay up now and just notify that user that it was modable?
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Irony 19 hours ago#19
Which I've literally never seen moderated before and even done by mods
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Alucard188 19 hours ago#20
Irony posted...
Since when was broken street dates against the rules?


We've always deleted those when brought to our attention, because of the legal ramifications associated with it. Basically, if you aren't legally allowed to have it on that date, you can't discuss it.
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SBAllen 19 hours ago#21
pieisthebest posted...
So would a post that is "light flaming" get removed, or would it instead stay up now and just notify that user that it was modable?

The latter, assuming the flame isn't severe and the user hasn't been notified multiple times.
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Turbam 19 hours ago#23
Mods cracking down on "soyboy" and "cuckold"
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Turbam posted...
Mods cracking down on "soyboy" and "cuckold"


finally, that shit was getting pretty old tbh
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KILBOTz 18 hours ago#25
what kind of poo-poo head would make rules like this?
Zurkon 18 hours ago#26
So if I’m playing a game on an emulator and I want to ask about it, can I say I’m playing it on an emulator? I’m not sure what it means by high level conversation.
Akagami_Shanks 18 hours ago#27
GameFAQs sure as hell wouldn't be my first destination if I had a early copy of a game people actually care about.
The Admiral 18 hours ago#28
No more "light flaming" means a lot users on this board are going to have to find alternatives to calling people racists, Nazis, Stormfronters, and white supremacists every time they get upset That's a good thing.
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SBAllen 18 hours ago#29
gnome from nome posted...
What about new users who admit they’re previously banned? Is that still in effect?

Depends, it's a case by case basis depending on who they are and what they did to get banned. If you're a certain someone who has made over 10,000 accounts to troll the Switch board (yes, this is a real person), then yes. If you had one account banned over repeat minor offenses and decide to come back and reform, no.
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SBAllen 18 hours ago#30
Zurkon posted...
So if I’m playing a game on an emulator and I want to ask about it, can I say I’m playing it on an emulator? I’m not sure what it means by high level conversation.

Asking for help with emulating a game would be NKL'd. Mentioning that you're playing a game on an emulator would be NWD'd.
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ChromaticAngel 18 hours ago#31
Zurkon posted...
So if I’m playing a game on an emulator and I want to ask about it, can I say I’m playing it on an emulator? I’m not sure what it means by high level conversation.


I believe it means telling people to "play XYZ game on an emulator" is not allowed, but saying "How do I do blah on some emu?" is fine, or "Wii U emulator progress now crappy game no one wants works."
darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#32
* Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


hahha

guess you guys losing a logical debate can't resort to calling people kids over and over
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Vyrulisse 18 hours ago#33
Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


RIP clownshoe, clownshoes, clown car, speck, joke, etc... dark day.
AzureAnihilator  claim meltdown18 hours ago#34
These are decent changes, I support this.

Side note, once you've cleaned all the junk ads from the site, make an announcement and I'll disable my adblocker here. I'd like to support the site by allowing ads, but each time I come here on mobile my browser is inevitably hijacked or something else stupid happens, which is why I use adblock in the first place (and don't browse on mobile). I'd be fine with ads here if they were nonintrusive and could be trusted not to do anything suspicious.
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--kresnik-- 18 hours ago#35
Sounds good to me. 

I guess the California-invented concept of "misgendering" is still not a violation.
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obeseexplosive 18 hours ago#37
SBAllen posted...
If you're a certain someone who has made over 10,000 accounts to troll the Switch board (yes, this is a real person)

Wtf
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AverageCEgal 18 hours ago#38
But you call tell users to fuck off and they'll be alone forever and nobody will ever care.
because that's not name callinghahaha
ChromaticAngel 18 hours ago#39
darkphoenix181 posted...
* Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


hahha

guess you guys losing a logical debate can resort to calling people kids over and over

this is a dumb rule and is just going to make people get creative about how they dance around this restriction.
Axiom 18 hours ago#40
Lol I expect to see a lot more warnings and suspensions given this new policy
DragonGirlYuki 18 hours ago#41
Does the new NKL disqualify you from making a mod application, as it is replacing the old 3KL, since in the past any karma loss on your history did.
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Turbam 18 hours ago#42
SBAllen posted...
If you're a certain someone who has made over 10,000 accounts to troll the Switch board (yes, this is a real person)

lmao
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Tmk 18 hours ago#43
Was not expecting this change to flaming. That's surprising.

Should be a pretty nice improvement over time to the boards, and it makes sense. When you try to draw a line between what flames are okay and what aren't, people will just find that line and sit on it to see how much they can get away with while being abusive and antagonistic towards people.

I also do think going forward it will probably be best to try and get that topic flare thing going to finally remove off-topic as a moderation reason. I feel like basically every general game board I ever frequented needed this. The whole social board split thing never seemed to work except in theory, and with that abandoned it did kind of leave people with no recourse except I guess...get a high level fellow to make a community board for it, or go off-site.

I just hope if/when it's added, you choose the flare BEFORE posting the topic. Because Reddit made me do it when I tried that site AFTER and just...that's dumb and I hated it.
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BLAKUboy 18 hours ago#44
So are we still pretending there's not a trolling epidemic? And when was CE gonna get the user level requirement raised?
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ChromaticAngel 18 hours ago#46
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Does the new NKL disqualify you from making a mod application, as it is replacing the old 3KL, since in the past any karma loss on your history did.

Only warnings and suspensions did.
SBAllen 18 hours ago#47
AzureAnihilator posted...
These are decent changes, I support this.

Side note, once you've cleaned all the junk ads from the site, make an announcement and I'll disable my adblocker here. I'd like to support the site by allowing ads, but each time I come here on mobile my browser is inevitably hijacked or something else stupid happens, which is why I use adblock in the first place (and don't browse on mobile). I'd be fine with ads here if they were nonintrusive and could be trusted not to do anything suspicious.

We're (royal we, CBSi) working on this, actually. With the upcoming Chrome changes, everyone has to.
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Tmk 18 hours ago#48
Vyrulisse posted...
Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.


RIP clownshoe, clownshoes, clown car, speck, joke, etc... dark day.

It is unfortunate that this is the death of "clown shoes" as I became quite fond of that since it didn't really have any real punch to it and also just sounded really silly and weird. I mean I often just used it because it sounded funny to me, not even as a real insult.

But I think it's a fair price to pay to also reign in the abundance of stupid "lol cuck" and so on.
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AverageCEgal 18 hours ago#49
Plus the user being flamed has to mark it otherwise it won't count
Just more protection
KingCrabCake 18 hours ago#50
SBAllen posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@Irony wtf is broken street dates anyway

If a game is officially release on January 31st but you get the game on the 28th for whatever reason (store sold it early, someone shipped it early). People posting early screenshots, story summaries, etc is the kind of stuff that gets us contacted by lawyers. Someone just saying "I got my copy early, yay!" won't, and would be NWD territory so we can warn them not to discuss the details.


Okay thanks. Wasnt sure what that was
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    NINExATExSEVEN 18 hours ago#51
    Hahaha so the left now has to actually debate instead of throwing out buzzwords.

    I approve of these changes.
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    Steve Nick 18 hours ago#52
    I'm okay with it.
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    madcaptech 18 hours ago#53
    Certainly interesting changes to say the least.
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#54
    oh ya

    calling a user a shitposter

    a troll

    those are names
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    Axiom 18 hours ago#55
    Tmk posted...
    But I think it's a fair price to pay to also reign in the abundance of stupid "lol cuck" and so on.

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    Squall28 18 hours ago#57
    What's considered name-calling?

    Like if someone is being racist and you call them a racist, is that name calling?
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    DragonGirlYuki 18 hours ago#58
    Requirements:
    You must be a member of the GameFAQs boards in good standing for a period of 1 or more years
    You must have more than 350 karma
    You may not have any karma-loss violations on your account in the past 30 days
    If you have multiple accounts, or share accounts or a computer with others, every single associated account must be free of warnings, suspensions, or bans
    Your login e-mail address must be private and not publicly listed

    Partial copy paste of mod app rules.
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    AzureAnihilator  claim meltdown18 hours ago#59
    SBAllen posted...
    We're (royal we, CBSi) working on this, actually. With the upcoming Chrome changes, everyone has to.


    Awesome news, thanks for the heads up.
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    The Admiral 18 hours ago#60
    Tightening up on flaming is a good thing. The level of discussion here had gone a bit too far into the hostile territory, and I'll gladly admit that I'm guilty of that also.

    The one thing I hope goes along with this -- especially in cases of trolling/flaming/insulting users -- is mods checking the topics for context and not just unilaterally deleting the post that's marked and pops up in the queue. The mod queue was poorly designed to see context beyond the marked post, but actual moderating entails either allowing or deleting both sides of the discussion to facilitate a better board exchange. It's not just punishing whichever user happened to get marked in a topic where there was a hostile exchange; that just pisses off users and appears like the rules are unfair.
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    Steve Nick 18 hours ago#61
    Squall28 posted...
    What's considered name-calling?

    Like if someone is being racist and you call them a racist, is that name calling?


    If someone is being racist, you should mark them for moderation. 

    It's not your job to break out the vigilante insults.

    I'd definitely consider calling someone a racist to be flaming.
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#62
    Squall28 posted...
    What's considered name-calling?

    Like if someone is being racist and you call them a racist, is that name calling?


    racist, troll, cuck, kid, clown, liberal, trumpeter, soyboy, beta, foreveraloner, fatty
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    The Admiral 18 hours ago#63
    SBAllen posted...
    AzureAnihilator posted...
    These are decent changes, I support this.

    Side note, once you've cleaned all the junk ads from the site, make an announcement and I'll disable my adblocker here. I'd like to support the site by allowing ads, but each time I come here on mobile my browser is inevitably hijacked or something else stupid happens, which is why I use adblock in the first place (and don't browse on mobile). I'd be fine with ads here if they were nonintrusive and could be trusted not to do anything suspicious.

    We're (royal we, CBSi) working on this, actually. With the upcoming Chrome changes, everyone has to.


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    ChromaticAngel 18 hours ago#64
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    oh ya

    calling a user a shitposter

    a troll

    those are names


    What about calling people trumpeters or berniebros/bernouts
    Steve Nick 18 hours ago#65
    Basically 95% of CE's vocabulary has been banned.
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    MC_BatCommander  tell him to get over it18 hours ago#66
    Squall28 posted...
    What's considered name-calling?

    Like if someone is being racist and you call them a racist, is that name calling?


    That's definitely not name calling. Name calling would apply to stuff like cuck or clown.

    Shit it's gonna be hard getting used to not being able to call people clowns anymore.
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    Asperity 18 hours ago#67
    Race baiting should result in instant ban. Its one of the bigger issues on some boards.
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    MabusIncarnate 18 hours ago#68
    ChromaticAngel posted...
    darkphoenix181 posted...
    oh ya

    calling a user a shitposter

    a troll

    those are names


    What about calling people trumpeters or berniebros/bernouts

    Yes, please ban these stupid fucking terms
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    snesmaster40 18 hours ago#69
    Interesting changes, especially the name calling one. I have a stalker here who keeps name calling me, even though I have him.blocked.
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    RedWhiteBlue 18 hours ago#70
    If a topic was successfully modded (i.e. poster was notified), will it be in red ink under their sig or anything? Like where the (paraphrasing here) "This message has been marked for moderation" goes can be "This post was notified for X because of Y," as to avoid users further marking for the same thing.
    MabusIncarnate 18 hours ago#71
    What if I promptly reply with "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me" will that prevent the person who called me a name from getting a moderation?
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    Tmk 18 hours ago#72
    I do imagine that trolls will use the new flaming rule though. I mean it's pretty natural on GameFAQs for trolls to sorta strive towards getting the people they upset moderated while themselves skirting by the rules.

    Especially with the political climate lately, it's probably never been easier to feign genuine beliefs that are reprehensible while trying to play coy about what they're really supporting, baiting people to call them "racist" or something even more extreme, then just marking all that and laughing as those people get in trouble. And when you build up a history in a community of that, it's all the easier, because you can go extreme for a bit, establish a history, a reputation, and then need only lightly poke at that and hint to it from then on. Mods won't pick up on what they're doing but the troll's intended audience certainly will.

    Though on the flip side there are certainly a lot of people playing fast and loose with what constitutes a "racist" and especially a "nazi" and it's good that they will be dealt with more now.
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#73
    oh and sjw

    can't say someone is a sjw

    special snowflake

    fragile

    entitled (hmm not sure about this one)
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    smoliske 18 hours ago#74
    wow what a lamer
    -Unowninator- 18 hours ago#75
    Will NWDs be labeled as such to other users? Can you dispute them? Can I please have one so I can check it out?
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#76
    -Unowninator- posted...
    Will NWDs be labeled as such to other users? Can you dispute them? Can I please have one so I can check it out?


    call me a kid and I will mark you
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    Sada_Pop 18 hours ago#78
    Please please please let SJW fall under this too. It absolutely has been morphed into a pejorative at this point.
    People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism.
    Steve Nick 18 hours ago#79
    -Unowninator- posted...
    Will NWDs be labeled as such to other users? Can you dispute them? Can I please have one so I can check it out?


    there's specific instructions in post 30 for how to get a NWD
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    -Unowninator- 18 hours ago#80
    DocileOrangeCup posted...
    What if someone is totally being a lamer and not accepting my friend request Allen.

    I thought you can't send those anymore?
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    -Unowninator- posted...
    DocileOrangeCup posted...
    What if someone is totally being a lamer and not accepting my friend request Allen.

    I thought you can't send those anymore?

    Well following you know what I mean
    thelovefist 18 hours ago#82
    Is calling someone a troll, shitposter or joke account now against the rules?
    N/A
    winged_weltall 18 hours ago#83
    SBAllen posted...
    AzureAnihilator posted...
    These are decent changes, I support this.

    Side note, once you've cleaned all the junk ads from the site, make an announcement and I'll disable my adblocker here. I'd like to support the site by allowing ads, but each time I come here on mobile my browser is inevitably hijacked or something else stupid happens, which is why I use adblock in the first place (and don't browse on mobile). I'd be fine with ads here if they were nonintrusive and could be trusted not to do anything suspicious.

    We're (royal we, CBSi) working on this, actually. With the upcoming Chrome changes, everyone has to.


    Fully agree with this one. I hope you guys make an announcement so I can turn my adblock off for this site. I've tried testing the waters a few times but each time my eyes hurt.
    LanHikari10 18 hours ago#84
    thelovefist posted...
    Is calling someone a troll, shitposter or joke account now against the rules?

    It's a name and you're calling them it, so yeah those would be NWDs.
    thelovefist 18 hours ago#85
    LanHikari10 posted...
    thelovefist posted...
    Is calling someone a troll, shitposter or joke account now against the rules?

    It's a name and you're calling them it, so yeah those would be NWDs.

    Lol
    N/A
    Axiom 18 hours ago#86
    LanHikari10 posted...
    thelovefist posted...
    Is calling someone a troll, shitposter or joke account now against the rules?

    It's a name and you're calling them it, so yeah those would be NWDs.

    So basically anything used as a pejorative counts as name calling then right
    weapon_d00d816 18 hours ago#87
    So it's basically:

    -slap on the wrist
    -delete post
    -warn
    -suspension
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    LanHikari10 posted...
    thelovefist posted...
    Is calling someone a troll, shitposter or joke account now against the rules?

    It's a name and you're calling them it, so yeah those would be NWDs.

    So what the fuck is saxon now
    JustMyOpinion 18 hours ago#89
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    It's a name and you're calling them it, so yeah those would be NWDs.

    Lol


    This is the worst update ever.
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    CookieMarvin 18 hours ago#90
    I think that in a website full of actual intolerance, name-calling is a lame hill for the team to die on. 

    calling someone a loser ❌
    making a topic questioning the validity of being trans ✅
    Zurkon 18 hours ago#91
    JustMyOpinion posted...
    thelovefist posted...
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    Lol


    This is the worst update ever.

    ❄ ❄ ❄
    -Unowninator- 18 hours ago#92
    DocileOrangeCup posted...
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    I thought you can't send those anymore?

    Well following you know what I mean

    Okay, "you're a kid?" Someone please give me an NWD to satisfy my curiosity.
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#93
    JustMyOpinion posted...
    This is the worst update ever.


    That is just your opinion.
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    darkphoenix181 18 hours ago#94
    -Unowninator- posted...
    Okay, "you're a kid?" Someone please give me an NWD to satisfy my curiosity.


    Low effort. I can't even mark this.
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    Hell yeah.

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    Well following you know what I mean

    Okay, "you're a kid?" Someone please give me an NWD to satisfy my curiosity.

    Wow I'm appalled
    So the rules against racist shit posting don't change but calling a racist shit poster a racist shit poster is now against the rules?
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    Squall28 18 hours ago#98
    CookieMarvin posted...
    I think that in a website full of actual intolerance, name-calling is a lame hill for the team to die on. 

    calling someone a loser ❌
    making a topic questioning the validity of being trans ✅


    Trans is a confusing topic. I've made that topic and no one was able to tell me what gender was beyond what you feel you are. Feel you are in regard to what?
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    CookieMarvin 18 hours ago#99
    TheBiggerWiggle posted...
    So the rules against racist shit posting don't change but calling a racist shit poster a racist shit poster is now against the rules?

    yeah that’s where we’re at
    thelovefist 18 hours ago#100
    TheBiggerWiggle posted...
    So the rules against racist shit posting don't change but calling a racist shit poster a racist shit poster is now against the rules?

    Pretty much this. What a fucking joke
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      DrizztLink 18 hours ago#101
      darkphoenix181 posted...
      JustMyOpinion posted...
      This is the worst update ever.


      That is just your opinion.

      He's got nothing left.
      Steve Nick 18 hours ago#102
      darkphoenix181 posted...
      -Unowninator- posted...
      Okay, "you're a kid?" Someone please give me an NWD to satisfy my curiosity.


      Low effort. I can't even mark this.


      Srsly. People these days just want everything for free. If you want a moderation, then apply yourself and break the rules.
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      SBAllen 18 hours ago#103
      Posting hate speech based on race has been and still is against the Terms of Use. If you're reporting racist posts that aren't being deleted by all means contact me privately about it and I'll look into it. If you aren't reporting it, dunno what you're expecting us to do.

      Edit: Probably don't need to spell this out, but the mods have been told not to use NWDs in regards to hate speech.
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      SBAllen posted...
      Posting hate speech based on race has been and still is against the Terms of Use. If you're reporting racist posts that aren't being deleted by all means contact me privately about it and I'll look into it. If you aren't reporting it, dunno what you're expecting us to do.

      Ur racist against cups
      NINExATExSEVEN posted...
      Hahaha so the left now has to actually debate instead of throwing out buzzwords.

      I approve of these changes.


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      andel 18 hours ago#106
      TheBiggerWiggle posted...
      So the rules against racist shit posting don't change but calling a racist shit poster a racist shit poster is now against the rules?


      it is positive tbh. if someone is an awful person it is easy to demonstrate through their own posts and through reasoning and debate. if you can't do that you probably aren't worth listening to. 

      pandamaster is obviously not a high brow poster and either ignoring him or demonstrating his ineptitude through examples and evidence is actually contributing something, just calling him a name accomplishes nothing
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      ProtoManSPx 18 hours ago#107
      Seems like a lot more work for an already slow-moving moderation team.
      CookieMarvin posted...
      I think that in a website full of actual intolerance, name-calling is a lame hill for the team to die on. 

      calling someone a loser ❌
      making a topic questioning the validity of being trans ✅


      Because the latter is an actual discussion. It's why it gets a pass.
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      voldothegr8 18 hours ago#109
      So what if I say someone is acting stupid. I'm not calling them stupid just pointing out they're acting as such.
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      REMercsChamp 18 hours ago#110
      That update to the flaming rule is basically turning this place into a kindergarten.

      "He called me a meany!"
      JustMyOpinion 18 hours ago#111
      Can I still call people 💩💩💩💩💩🤡🤡🤡🤡? Just the emojis.
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      Conflict  refugee love block me18 hours ago#112
      Lol now you can get modded without having your post deleted. Very stupid idea
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      andel 18 hours ago#113
      NINExATExSEVEN posted...
      CookieMarvin posted...
      I think that in a website full of actual intolerance, name-calling is a lame hill for the team to die on. 

      calling someone a loser ❌
      making a topic questioning the validity of being trans ✅


      Because the latter is an actual discussion. It's why it gets a pass.


      this. whether you agree with someone or not, actual discussion is mentally engaging while name calling contributes nothing but make you look incapable of actual discussion
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      ProtoManSPx 18 hours ago#114
      CookieMarvin posted...
      TheBiggerWiggle posted...
      So the rules against racist shit posting don't change but calling a racist shit poster a racist shit poster is now against the rules?

      yeah that’s where we’re at

      What a fucking joke.
      andel 18 hours ago#115
      voldothegr8 posted...
      So what if I say someone is acting stupid. I'm not calling them stupid just pointing out they're acting as such.


      in the past that has been ok, idk about now
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      BLAKUboy 18 hours ago#116
      SBAllen posted...
      If you're reporting racist posts that aren't being deleted by all means contact me privately about it and I'll look into it.

      Or you could just browse CE for five minutes and see all the blatantly racist shit that doesn't get touched.
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      Steve Nick 18 hours ago#117
      REMercsChamp posted...
      That update to the flaming rule is basically turning this place into a kindergarten.

      "He called me a meany!"


      You realize that in virtually every faucet of society, and even most places online, insults and name-calling are not tolerated?

      CE is a cesspool of hostility in that regard.

      Why are you so upset that you can't insult people?

      I've never been in another community that allows you to just blatantly insult people.
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      LanHikari10 18 hours ago#118
      voldothegr8 posted...
      So what if I say someone is acting stupid. I'm not calling them stupid just pointing out they're acting as such.

      It's an implied insult, which was always covered under the flaming rule.
      andel 18 hours ago#119
      LanHikari10 posted...
      voldothegr8 posted...
      So what if I say someone is acting stupid. I'm not calling them stupid just pointing out they're acting as such.

      It's an implied insult, which was always covered under the flaming rule.


      nah, saying someone is acting stupid or acting like a child has never been moddable
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      LanHikari10 18 hours ago#120
      Error1355 18 hours ago#121
      LanHikari10 posted...
      andel posted...
      nah, saying someone is acting stupid has never been moddable

      lol andel
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      Conflict posted...
      Lol now you can get modded without having your post deleted. Very stupid idea

      No.

      That's a great idea. All of it are positive changes except the flaming rule.
      andel 18 hours ago#123
      LanHikari10 posted...
      andel posted...
      nah, saying someone is acting stupid has never been moddable

      lol


      i have posted here since '01, that has never been moddable. 

      this is great though because it makes people like raptorlc that never contributed anything of value change their posting style
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      REMercsChamp 18 hours ago#124
      "MOM! The mean guy on the internet called me a Nintendo Kiddy!"
      BLAKUboy posted...
      SBAllen posted...
      If you're reporting racist posts that aren't being deleted by all means contact me privately about it and I'll look into it.

      Or you could just browse CE for five minutes and see all the blatantly racist shit that doesn't get touched.

      That’ll work, coz currently CE has nearly 40,000 posts
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      JustMyOpinion 18 hours ago#126
      Conflict posted...
      Lol now you can get modded without having your post deleted. Very stupid idea


      I agree. If someone gets modded I wanna know. Now I can't tell if mods are being lazy or not.
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      SBAllen 18 hours ago#127
      voldothegr8 posted...
      So what if I say someone is acting stupid. I'm not calling them stupid just pointing out they're acting as such.

      Implied insults have always been flames. A very similar case is used in the example in the ToU.

      BLAKUboy posted...
      SBAllen posted...
      If you're reporting racist posts that aren't being deleted by all means contact me privately about it and I'll look into it.

      Or you could just browse CE for five minutes and see all the blatantly racist shit that doesn't get touched.

      That isn't how moderation works here (or anywhere else). If a post doesn't bother anyone enough to report them, there isn't any point in deleting the post. We don't moderate for funsies, we moderate because someone's post is interrupting the experience for another user.
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      andel 18 hours ago#128
      Error1355 posted...
      LanHikari10 posted...
      andel posted...
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      lol andel


      error dismissing facts without contributing anything of value, water is wet. i bet you are upset you and raptorlc will have to change your posting styles eh?
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      andel posted...
      i have posted here since '01, that has never been moddable.


      I been modded for it.
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      andel 18 hours ago#130
      darkphoenix181 posted...
      andel posted...
      i have posted here since '01, that has never been moddable.


      I been modded for it.


      i haven't and have never seen it modded.
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      andel posted...
      i haven't and have never seen it modded.


      if you are so confident then say i am acting stupid
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      LanHikari10 18 hours ago#132
      andel posted...
      i haven't and have never seen it modded.

      Alright, that's nice. That doesn't mean it's not moddable, as Allen just said. It's moddable.
      Tmk 18 hours ago#133
      Is there a distinction made in flaming between saying something someone said is dumb, and calling them dumb?

      Like if someone said "I think Zelder is a pretty cool guy eh saves the princess and flies around on a boat" and someone else, unmoved by this brilliant, timeless joke, said "What? No that's dumb" would that be treated as a flame just the same as if they said "You're dumb!"?
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      RE_expert44 18 hours ago#134
      Little off topic but is there ever a plan for an 18+ board? Like for verified accounts over 5 years old (the mandatory 13 year sign up requirement plus 5 years to make it 18)
      andel 18 hours ago#135
      LanHikari10 posted...
      andel posted...
      i haven't and have never seen it modded.

      Alright, that's nice. That doesn't mean it's not moddable, as Allen just said. It's moddable.


      obv it is different now but it has not been moddable in practice in the past
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      Conflict  refugee love block me18 hours ago#136
      Steve Nick posted...
      Why are you so upset that you can't insult people?


      Are you going to burst into tears if someone calls you a dork? Cause in most environments (online and offline), people laugh that off.

      Y'all are supposed to be grown ass men (is that moddable cause I said the word ass?), tame 'name-calling' like that shouldn't be moddable.
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      LanHikari10 18 hours ago#137
      andel posted...
      obv it is different now but it has not been moddable in practice in the past


      SBAllen posted...
      Implied insults have always been flames
      Axiom 18 hours ago#138
      andel posted...
      darkphoenix181 posted...
      andel posted...
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      I been modded for it.


      i haven't and have never seen it modded.

      I've seen it modded before. I think people just don't bother marking it most of the time
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      Conflict posted...
      Steve Nick posted...
      Why are you so upset that you can't insult people?


      Are you going to burst into tears if someone calls you a dork? Cause in most environments (online and offline), people laugh that off.

      Y'all are supposed to be grown ass men (is that moddable cause I said the word ass?), tame 'name-calling' like that shouldn't be moddable.


      or report you to HR
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      Steve Nick 18 hours ago#140
      I think you may be confused, andei-person.

      A common thing that isn't considered flaming, is targetting someone's opinion rather than the person.

      Saying someone is dumb is flaming them.

      Saying someone is acting dumb is flaming them.

      Telling someone that pushing Bikini Bottom somewhere else to avoid Alaskan Bull-Worms is a dumb idea, that's not flaming, because you're targetting the idea, not the person.
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      DrizztLink 18 hours ago#141
      Also, is anything ever going to be done about all the necrobumping?

      We've got one guy keeping weeks to months old topics on life support for no reason, marking it never accomplishes anything.
      Error1355 18 hours ago#142
      @andel posted...
      obv it is different now but it has not been moddable in practice in the past

      Implied insults have always been against the rules for as long as I've been a moderator. =P
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      VectorChaos 18 hours ago#143
      Bugambilia 18 hours ago#144
      So basically, to be safe, we shouldn't call anyone any kind of name, even if we mean it as a joke and the name is something benign like nincompoop or dork? Is that right?
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      Tmk 18 hours ago#145
      DrizztLink posted...
      Also, is anything ever going to be done about all the necrobumping?

      We've got one guy keeping weeks to months old topics on life support for no reason, marking it never accomplishes anything.

      Is that the guy who just seems to randomly bump topics and delete their post so no one sees who does it? I've had that happen to my own topics a few times and it's been...confusing.
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      REMercsChamp 18 hours ago#146
      Bugambilia posted...
      So basically, to be safe, we shouldn't call anyone any kind of name, even if we mean it as a joke and the name is something benign like nincompoop or dork? Is that right?

      I'm telling my mommy
      Error1355 18 hours ago#147
      Bugambilia posted...
      So basically, to be safe, we shouldn't call anyone any kind of name, even if we mean it as a joke and the name is something benign like nincompoop or dork? Is that right?

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      RE_expert44 18 hours ago#148
      Tmk posted...
      DrizztLink posted...
      Also, is anything ever going to be done about all the necrobumping?

      We've got one guy keeping weeks to months old topics on life support for no reason, marking it never accomplishes anything.

      Is that the guy who just seems to randomly bump topics and delete their post so no one sees who does it? I've had that happen to my own topics a few times and it's been...confusing.

      Some guy named armiebuff has been doing that to my topics
      Bugambilia 18 hours ago#149
      REMercsChamp posted...
      Bugambilia posted...
      So basically, to be safe, we shouldn't call anyone any kind of name, even if we mean it as a joke and the name is something benign like nincompoop or dork? Is that right?

      I'm telling my mommy

      Fine then, I'm not scared of your mommy.
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      BLAKUboy 18 hours ago#150
      All I'm saying is that if you want to see racist shit not getting modded, you only have to look at the boards.
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