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... What because they finally let women drive? Yet being gay can carry the death sentence. Yeah nice one Michael Cole.
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Rome wasn't built in a day. These things may take a lot longer than most people believe they should but baby steps is better than nothing.
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The whole show was just propaganda for the royal family to make themselves look good no doubt to further some political aim.
That whole acted segment with the woman acting all happy and saying everyone is welcome in Saudi Arabia made me cringe. |
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Snake posted...
Rome wasn't built in a day. These things may take a lot longer than most people believe they should but baby steps is better than nothing. Don’t fucking say Rome is a massive empire when it’s a fucking village though Jesus
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Biggest load of crock of a show. You only need to look at the stadium set out to realise how non progressive the country is. It’s a shame that the E sold out for them.
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Snake posted...
Rome wasn't built in a day. These things may take a lot longer than most people believe they should but baby steps is better than nothing. It's taking baby steps but the baby is doing 720 backflips seveal metres back. They're letting women drive yet they're still second class citizens and probably will always will be within that country.
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WWE sold out.
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CloudyKuchiki posted...
That whole acted segment with the woman acting all happy and saying everyone is welcome in Saudi Arabia made me cringe. Yikes...
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Saudi Arabia is so progressive. Women can vote now. They can get government services without the consent of their guardian. They can drive and have jobs. They can have non-combat jobs in the military. They can even attend a live sporting event when accompanied by a male guardian. That's some real progress.
It's easy to be progressive when they were so low on the progressive totem pole to begin with. It's like the lazy worker at work, who doesn't really do anything, and the one time they do something, they get a lot of praise when really they should've been doing that to begin with.
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The Saudi Authority sent out a statement apologizing to the fans in attendance because during the PPV, WWE aired the music video of all the wrestlers singing in a studio to push the upcoming PPVs. They said the video was “indecent” because it showed the women wrestlers in it and they stated that they will never change their beliefs regarding that. So all this talk of WWE doing this show to “try to change their culture” is a bunch of BS.
Now watch WWE go and issue an apology for airing the video. I also have been reading reports that homosexuals can be put to death in Saudi. How progressive! |
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CloudyKuchiki posted...
... What because they finally let women drive? Yet being gay can carry the death sentence. Yeah nice one Michael Cole. Not letting women drive and then letting women drive is progress though. Can’t expect an entire culture to change just because the rest of the world wants it to
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
WWE sold out. Ummm it’s a publicly traded company. The whole idea is to sell out
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Fuck the WWE for doing this shit. Considering canceling the network for the second time since I came out. First time was when Bryan lost the Rumble back them but got it back the next day.
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It's like people don't know what progressive means. It doesn't mean 'there already'.
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$25 million a year for 10 years = Michael Cole will say anything he's told to say. This shouldn't be a surprise.
Less is more.
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SA is actually very regressive. Personal freedoms have shrank considerably since the 60s.
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In 10 years i bet there will be women's matches.
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KingHova045 posted...
SA is actually very regressive. Personal freedoms have shrank considerably since the 60s. That happened. And now the tide is turning the other way. Personal freedom has grown from what it was five years ago. What's the word for that? When things are getting better, even if they're not the best they've ever been? Tip of the tongue...
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Lol oppression-apologists and -cheerleaders always make me cringe. Why do we have to be so tolerant as to tolerate...well basically every violation of human rights?
snoochtonooch posted... Can’t expect an entire culture to change just because the rest of the world wants it to Why not? Did Josef Fritzl get some sympathy time to slowly adapt or did they lock him up and yank the children out of his cellar? Or are you saying it's not a big deal because there are no hard feelings when someone doesn't play by the rules and it's just all symbolic and archaic?
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Daremo posted...
KingHova045 posted...SA is actually very regressive. Personal freedoms have shrank considerably since the 60s. Two steps backward, and one step forward is actually called stagnation there Einstein.
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Snake posted...
Rome wasn't built in a day. These things may take a lot longer than most people believe they should but baby steps is better than nothing. That doesn't make the country progressive. They aren't even the most progressive country in the Middle East.
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KingHova045 posted...
Daremo posted...KingHova045 posted...show hidden quote(s) Well, grab your time machine, go back to the 70's and fix everything, then? What? You don't have a time machine? That means we have to chart things by the direction they're heading in today! Oh no! What does denigrating Saudi Arabia's CURRENT progress achieve? It's not as if people aren't aware that they still have a long way to go. Sane people just don't expect them to start today and arrive yesterday.
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Daremo posted...
KingHova045 posted...Daremo posted...show hidden quote(s) Moving them goal posts now eh?
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ConfessPlease posted...
Fuck the WWE for doing this shit. Considering canceling the network for the second time since I came out. First time was when Bryan lost the Rumble back them but got it back the next day. Go ahead if you feel that strongly just cancel, stop going to the events, and stop watching all together.
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KingHova045 posted...
Moving them goal posts now eh? From my first post in this topic to my last, find the goalpost I moved. Today's Saudi Arabia is more progressive than yesterday's, and that's a good thing. Hopefully it will continue in that direction.
Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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Daremo posted...
It's like people don't know what progressive means. It doesn't mean 'there already'. Progress and progressive are words that have been misused in this generation.
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KingHova045 posted...
Daremo posted...KingHova045 posted...show hidden quote(s) Are you sure it’s not two steps forward and two steps back? Sorry I heard that in a video w/ a singing cartoon cat when I was a kid.
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We're surrounded by idiots who want people to better themselves but when they do they turn it into an Olympic competition where they just yave to show how mych they've bettered themselves FIRST and how you aren't keeping up.
Would you rather things just stay the same? Why discredit ANY positive change?
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Oh alright, instead of killing 15 kids I'll only kill 14 this year, but I'm not gonna like it.
Still would like some acknowledgement of my amazing progress though. And medals. Kids love medals.
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SoulOfFayth posted...
Oh alright, instead of killing 15 kids I'll only kill 14 this year, but I'm not gonna like it. And how many on average imaginary kids do we kill in this terrible strawman?
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SoulOfFayth posted...
Oh alright, instead of killing 15 kids I'll only kill 14 this year, but I'm not gonna like it. Even in your horrible analogy, there's one kid who really appreciates that progress.
Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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Daremo posted...
SoulOfFayth posted...Oh alright, instead of killing 15 kids I'll only kill 14 this year, but I'm not gonna like it. What these guys can’t understand is how nobody likes that situation and we’re not defending it either. We’re just opening our minds to the chance that things will get better. If things were changed overnight that would be great,but it ain’t happening and we can’t just force them to do it either (too bad right). Anyways it isn’t easy, but hopefully it isn’t impossible.
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Dos_Pac posted...
What these guys can’t understand is how nobody likes that situation and we’re not defending it either. We’re just opening our minds to the chance that things will get better. If things were changed overnight that would be great,but it ain’t happening and we can’t just force them to do it either (too bad right). Anyways it isn’t easy, but hopefully it isn’t impossible. Indeed.
Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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the problem is plain and simple.....people are comparing it to their own culture and saying nope not progressive........
compare it to how the saudi culture used to be not how ours is. don't be closed minded....as hard as it is for you hive minds to be |
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Michael Cole is a goddamned yes man.
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It isn’t progressive though. The word “open minded” isn’t some magic word that solves everything
It has progressed from what it used to be. It isn’t progressive. I still torture children. But I’m not using the rings anymore. I’m only punching them. I’m a good person? No. That’s stupid. And if people congratulated me for that that they would be kind of shitty. Baby steps toward progress are something. But sorry no. You don’t acknowledge progress by pretending like they’ve already achieved it. You guys are advocating for bullshit. Plains nd simple. It’s not “”””””close minded””””” to not be full of shit
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WOMANpukumaru posted...
It has progressed from what it used to be. It isn’t progressive. That's literally what progressive is.
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WOMANpukumaru posted...
I still torture children. But I’m not using the rings anymore. I’m only punching them. I’m a good person? No. That’s stupid. And if people congratulated me for that that they would be kind of s***ty. And by this logic MLK and Ghandi were pussies because they settled for allowing people tp walk on the same street at one point.
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No it isn’t
If we’re being “literal” every thing is progressive because everything progresses in some way If the word is going to mean something in the sense we’re using it in this topic it’s bullshit to call it progressive when women can drive in their fucking full body coverings KyleKG posted... WOMANpukumaru posted...I still torture children. But I’m not using the rings anymore. I’m only punching them. I’m a good person? No. That’s stupid. And if people congratulated me for that that they would be kind of s***ty. No they didn’t. They were always pushing for more and they were fighting a system. You’re grasping at straws. You’d need to compare the culture they were in and and no America during fucking segregation wasn’t progressive. You say you’re not “happy about this” why are trying to mince words support bullshit.
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But like, whatever. This is all subjective semantics. If you people want to praise a slightly less but still oppressive society as progressive then like knock yourselves out.
There is no reasoning to be done.
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WOMANpukumaru posted...
No they didn’t. They were always pushing for more and they were fighting a system And this ISN'T going to lead to a push for more? You have absolute proof of it?
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WOMANpukumaru posted...
But like, whatever. This is all subjective semantics. If you people want to praise a slightly less but still oppressive society as progressive then like knock yourselves out. Wait, what do you mean “you people?”
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KyleKG posted...
WOMANpukumaru posted...No they didn’t. They were always pushing for more and they were fighting a system This is just the height of reasoning at straws. You’re equating the temporary goals of activists foghtinga againt oppression to the government granting tiny freedoms while still actively oppressing people. It’s like equating me begging someone to let one hostage go to a guy letting only one hostage go. I hope I don’t have to explain how stupid this is. Once again why are you trying so hard to justify this?
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KyleKG posted...
WOMANpukumaru posted...It has progressed from what it used to be. It isn’t progressive. But when you call a country progressive, it implies that you are comparing it to other countries. And there isn't a single country out there that doesn't progress in some form or fashion, so if Saudi Arabia's progressive then all countries are.
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WOMANpukumaru posted...
to the government granting tiny freedoms while still actively oppressing people. Literally how women's sufferage, India, and the Civil Rights movement all panned out. Weird.
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KyleKG posted...
WOMANpukumaru posted...to the government granting tiny freedoms while still actively oppressing people. Ahyoire doing that bullshit where you cherry pick one part of what I say you can zero in on it and twist it while ignoring larger point. As clear a sign of bad will as any. Enjoy your oppression apologia
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And who here has said, "Good enough Saudi Arabia, you can stop now."?
Feel free to point it out, because I see people saying, "I hope they continue" and "they have a long way to go". It's like seeing someone with two broken legs hobbling into rehab, and some people are saying, "Hey, you're out of bed! Keep it up, you'll walk again someday." while others are screaming, "Why aren't you running marathons, you worthless bastard!" and kicking the crutches away.
Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
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Daremo posted...
And who here has said, "Good enough Saudi Arabia, you can stop now."? No it’s like saying someone is rehabiltated because they shot up 1 less time that day
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WOMANpukumaru posted...Ahyoire doing that bulls*** where you cherry pick one part of what I say you can zero in on it and twist it while ignoring larger point.
As clear a sign of bad will as any. Enjoy your oppression apologia
All you do is ignore the larger point, and I'm at work. I bear no obligation to argue with your posts in totality.This is the water, and this is the well.maybe Cole hates women drivers
thats his choiceNo one is required to discuss in good faith or acknowl she their own bulslhit. Like I said have fun with that.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...Daremo posted...
And who here has said, "Good enough Saudi Arabia, you can stop now."?
Feel free to point it out, because I see people saying, "I hope they continue" and "they have a long way to go".
It's like seeing someone with two broken legs hobbling into rehab, and some people are saying, "Hey, you're out of bed! Keep it up, you'll walk again someday." while others are screaming, "Why aren't you running marathons, you worthless bastard!" and kicking the crutches away.
No it’s like saying someone is rehabiltated because they shot up 1 less time that day
So drug addicts are devoid of rights now and shouldn't ever try to get better unless strapped to a gurny. How draconian.
You realize we use controlled weaker doses of prescription drugs to edge people off drugs in rehab right?
Did you not go to school? Get forced to read To Kill a Mockingbird?This is the water, and this is the well.KyleKG posted...WOMANpukumaru posted...
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No it’s like saying someone is rehabiltated because they shot up 1 less time that day
So drug addicts are devoid of rights now and shouldn't ever try to get better unless strapped to a gurny. How draconian.
You realize we use controlled weaker doses of prescription drugs to edge people off drugs in rehab right?
Did you not go to school? Get forced to read To Kill a Mockingbird?
You’re not even trying anymore. You’re right. I’m saying drug addicts don’t have rights. That’s my point.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...You’re not even trying anymore. You’re right. I’m saying drug addicts don’t have rights. That’s my point.
I had to guess that's what you were saying because the analogy was in no way applicable.
It seems obvious you DIDN'T think addicts were treated in rehab though.This is the water, and this is the well.If that helps you get to bed tonight. Sure. Go with that.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...If that helps you get to bed tonight. Sure. Go with that.
Well seeing as you decided to stop pretending to argue completely I'm pretty happy with the results.This is the water, and this is the well.I was actually using the analogy of physical rehab, not drug rehab. Why would someone with two broken legs go to drug rehab?Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's DictionaryDaremo posted...I was actually using the analogy of physical rehab, not drug rehab. Why would someone with two broken legs go to drug rehab?
It IS pretty common for pain killer addiction to start in an intense rehab.This is the water, and this is the well.IsGregor posted...KyleKG posted...
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That's literally what progressive is.
But when you call a country progressive, it implies that you are comparing it to other countries. And there isn't a single country out there that doesn't progress in some form or fashion, so if Saudi Arabia's progressive then all countries are.
Unless the country is getting worse. Also depends what you’re looking at. Over the years my cooking has been progressive. The shoes I wear not so much, I always buy the same pair. Then again they’ve worked for the past 13 years so I’m not going to bother changing them.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
Super Mario Maker Profile: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/dospac?type=postedDaremo posted...I was actually using the analogy of physical rehab, not drug rehab. Why would someone with two broken legs go to drug rehab?
*shrug* I assumed to drive joke there wooing about how hard and slow progress was
This country isn’t in rehab it just doesn’t want to walk much and you’re all for heaping praise on it because they decided to put on one shoe maybe scoot towards the edge of the chair. This isn’t some valiant struggle for freedom this is a horrible system that decided to be a little nicer.
Would you really call the Nazis progressive if they killed less Jews? This is ridiculous and these inncuois anolohies obvuscate what you’re actually advocating for.
If this is what you’re using as “progressive” the word means nothing. And it basically just exists as some hollow platitude.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...you’re all for healing praise on it because decided to put on one shoe maybe scoot towards the edge of the chair.
That's how a lot of healthy change cones about when addressing unhealthy mindsets.This is the water, and this is the well.WOMANpukumaru posted...Daremo posted...
I was actually using the analogy of physical rehab, not drug rehab. Why would someone with two broken legs go to drug rehab?
*shrug* I assumed to drive joke there wooing about how hard and slow progress was
This country isn’t in rehab it just doesn’t want to walk much and you’re all for heaping praise on it because they decided to put on one shoe maybe scoot towards the edge of the chair. This isn’t some valiant struggle for freedom this is a horrible system that decided to be a little nicer.
Would you really call the Nazis progressive if they killed less Jews? This is ridiculous and these inncuois anolohies obvuscate what you’re actually advocating for.
If this is what you’re using as “progressive” the word means nothing. And it basically just exists as some hollow platitude.
Nobody is denying that things are messed up over there. We know and if we didn’t before trust me you’ve made sure we do now.
If this is what you’re using as “progressive” the word means nothing.
This is where the real argument is. The word does mean something and you should probably go grab a dictionary to go see what the meaning is. Forget anologies and examples, your best bet is to grab an actual dictionary and see why people are using that word.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
Super Mario Maker Profile: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/dospac?type=postedWe just went through the dictionary. The word means nothing here in the literal sense.
No this is a red herring. Go look that up to find out why it applies here.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisKyleKG posted...WOMANpukumaru posted...
you’re all for healing praise on it because decided to put on one shoe maybe scoot towards the edge of the chair.
That's how a lot of healthy change cones about when addressing unhealthy mindsets.
I’ve talked to someone who had something they were going through. When they shared that with me that alone was progress because they no longer kept that to themselves. Was it perfect? No, there was a lot of work to be done. The important thing is this person doesn’t deal with that anymore and it took a lot of baby steps and trusting the right people.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
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That's how a lot of healthy change cones about when addressing unhealthy mindsets.
I’ve talked to someone who had something they were going through. When they shared that with me that alone was progress because they no longer kept that to themselves. Was it perfect? No, there was a lot of work to be done. The important thing is this person doesn’t deal with that anymore and it took a lot of baby steps and trusting the right people.
Now imagine instead of going trough something that same guy was torturing his wife in the basement. Would you be all like “oh my god great you’re doing such a good job and you’re a good person!”Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisOkay, yes, I see where the problem is.
You're using 'progressive' as a buzzword, like 'progressive liberal politics'. Other people are using 'progressive' as a word, as in 'moving from one state to another'. So, no, Saudi Arabia is not 'progressive', like say, Norway is progressive, but they are progressive as in, they are improving from what they have previously been.Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionaryno that’s not my problem. That’s yours.
First of all that’s bullshit in the same way that “I’m calling that homosexual man a f** because he smells like cigarettes!” Is. You know what the word means
And by he literal definition you’re pretending to use everything is progressive. Everything goes from one state to another. That means nothing.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisAsk me a question.Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's DictionaryDaremo posted...Ask me a question.
XD sure buddyBecause MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisYou say I'm dodging your questions, ask me one, I'll answer it forthrightly.Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's DictionaryWOMANpukumaru posted...And by he literal definition you’re pretending to use everything is progressive. Everything goes from one state to another. That means nothing.
I wouldn't call Venezuela very progressive.This is the water, and this is the well.WOMANpukumaru posted...Dos_Pac posted...
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I’ve talked to someone who had something they were going through. When they shared that with me that alone was progress because they no longer kept that to themselves. Was it perfect? No, there was a lot of work to be done. The important thing is this person doesn’t deal with that anymore and it took a lot of baby steps and trusting the right people.
Now imagine instead of going trough something that same guy was torturing his wife in the basement. Would you be all like “oh my god great you’re doing such a good job and you’re a good person!”
Go look up the word already.
Obviously I wouldn’t call him a good person. Also this person I’m talking about wasn’t harming anyone else. Torturing wife in basement sounds like a call the police kind of thing and it’s clearly wrong. If this made up male we are talking about confessed that to me by no means does it excuse his crime but if he realized how wrong he was and that is the reason he made that step, yes that was progress to become a better human being. He would have to finish that progress wherever the judge puts him though like other criminals that realize the error of their ways. He’d also do so w/o his wife obviously.
As for my friend, everything she went through and every step she took I was proud of her. Even if she fell back I was there to remind her how far along she’s come and not to stop now. I’m proud of her and I wouldn’t take anything away from her because people have changed the way they interpret the word progressive.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
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Now imagine instead of going trough something that same guy was torturing his wife in the basement. Would you be all like “oh my god great you’re doing such a good job and you’re a good person!”
Go look up the word already.
Obviously I wouldn’t call him a good person. Also this person I’m talking about wasn’t harming anyone else. Torturing wife in basement sounds like a call the police kind of thing and it’s clearly wrong. If this made up male we are talking about confessed that to me by no means does it excuse his crime but if he realized how wrong he was and that is the reason he made that step, yes that was progress to become a better human being. He would have to finish that progress wherever the judge puts him though like other criminals that realize the error of their ways. He’d also do so w/o his wife obviously.
As for my friend, everything she went through and every step she took I was proud of her. Even if she fell back I was there to remind her how far along she’s come and not to stop now. I’m proud of her and I wouldn’t take anything away from her because people have changed the way they interpret the word progressive.
If you’re talking about someone who wasn’t harming anyone else why would you apply to a situation where the country is commiting immense harm to its own people as well as others and hasn’t really let up on that only granted them small concessions in the wake of it. They aren’t “struggling through some things”
If you want to be “proud” of a country oppressing it’s people that’s on you. People are going to call you out and I’m sure you’ll have some non sequiturs to regurgitate about the dictionary.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisSeriously?
So many of us have already stated we don’t agree with them. I pretty much got 6 daughters, you think I wanna take any of them there? Hell no! I’ve never debated the practices we hear about or how much catching up they have to do on how to treat other people. I’m just using the words progress and progressive for what they have originally meant for the longest time. That’s all I’m debating. I can’t think of one person posting in this topic that would be like, “nah I’m cool w/ their executions of people who are different.” Progress =/= perfect or even justification.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
Super Mario Maker Profile: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/dospac?type=postedWOMANpukumaru posted...If you want to be “proud” of a country oppressing it’s people that’s on you.
You are the only one seeing it the wrong way.
If that were the case would we not be outraged they let women drive let alone go outside?
At this point you couldn't be more transparent that you are actively ignoring the point.This is the water, and this is the well.I'm pleased a country is oppressing it's people less, I consider that a good thing. It would be nice if people weren't oppressed at all, but would be nice cuts no ice, and somewhere between dystopia and utopia there's a thing called 'improving'.Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's DictionaryKyleKG posted...WOMANpukumaru posted...
If you want to be “proud” of a country oppressing it’s people that’s on you.
You are the only one seeing it the wrong way.
If that were the case would we not be outraged they let women drive let alone go outside?
At this point you couldn't be more transparent that you are actively ignoring the point.
It's what he does.Not changing signiture until Stephanie McMahon wins the raw women's title.
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/stephanie-mcmahonYou’re the one talking about being proud to sosmeone while they struggle through their issues when talking about a giveenrnent oppressing it’s people.
Great. By the dictionary definition it’s as progressive as a the expansion of the universe(that may not even be happening anymore). Great job. You’ve established something that has nothing to do with what is being talked about to justify this. Good job.
When wwe calls a company progressive on tv they arent saying it transitions from one state to another.
It’s inmoral to give a pats on the back and ass kissing to a country oppressing it’s people. Especially when it’s obviously because they’re being given money.
The policy you could argue is progressive the country is not.
You don’t get smoke blown up your ass for continuing to do bad things.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...It’s inmoral to give a pats on the back and ass kissing to a country oppressing it’s people. Especially when it’s obviously because they’re being given money.
The policy you could argue is progressive the country is not.
You don’t get smoke blown up your ass for continuing to do bad things.
So just don't ever give credit to reformity no matter what?
Got it.This is the water, and this is the well.Daremo posted...I'm pleased a country is oppressing it's people less, I consider that a good thing. It would be nice if people weren't oppressed at all, but would be nice cuts no ice, and somewhere between dystopia and utopia there's a thing called 'improving'.
Oppressing less is even subjective. You wouldn’t pat me on the back for giving my prisoners snickers bars. At least I hope not. Maybe you would.
But enough of this. The lines have been drawn and they aren’t changing
You think there is something positive about acknowledging and praising even small progress since it encourages more and it shows support
I think there’s something immoral corrosive harmful and just downright insulting about speaking of a country guilty of backwards oppression using the same terms those seeking to go beyond the current standards(in theory, that’s a whole different subject). I think it enables stagnation rather than encouraging progress. I think it corrodes our own moral standards and cheapens these concepts to meaningless fluff. I think it makes light of the harm still being done.
I think it’s really sickening when corporate assholes spew this kind of morally dishonest claptrap just because they’re begging given money.
I think bullshit is bad for you.
I’m gonna leave it at that.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...Oppressing less is even subjective.
Passing new laws to bring women more rights is subjective???This is the water, and this is the well.KyleKG posted...WOMANpukumaru posted...
Oppressing less is even subjective.
Passing new laws to bring women more rights is subjective???
Sometimes, you gotta know when to fold 'em.Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's DictionaryOh look more cherry picking and intentionally misunderstanding things out of context.
*claps* WONDERFULBecause MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisWOMANpukumaru posted...Oh look more cherry picking and intentionally misunderstanding things out of context.
*claps* WONDERFUL
Explain how "oppressing less" is subjectiveThis is the water, and this is the well.Look how long it took America to legalize gay marriage. And now y’all think America is better than other countries despite how it’s not too long ago they legalized gay marriage and finally allowed transgender people to be in the military??Toronto Raptors' fan and Kofi Kingston's brother.
#BLACKEXCELLENCE #IMBLACKANDIMPROUDAlso not too long ago before women had the right to voteToronto Raptors' fan and Kofi Kingston's brother.
#BLACKEXCELLENCE #IMBLACKANDIMPROUDjimbiz posted...Look how long it took America to legalize gay marriage. And now y’all think America is better than other countries despite how it’s not too long ago they legalized gay marriage and finally allowed transgender people to be in the military??
*john cena pokes his head through a green screen*
Are you realy sure you want to get into lgbt issues when discussing the Muslim world of all places?
I mean....you have to be trolling
And women having the right to vote? This is another one where it’s like....really now?Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisDaremo posted...KingHova045 posted...
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Two steps backward, and one step forward is actually called stagnation there Einstein.
Well, grab your time machine, go back to the 70's and fix everything, then?
What? You don't have a time machine?
That means we have to chart things by the direction they're heading in today! Oh no!
What does denigrating Saudi Arabia's CURRENT progress achieve? It's not as if people aren't aware that they still have a long way to go. Sane people just don't expect them to start today and arrive yesterday.
You're conflating their blatant propaganda social reforms with actual progress. Tell me how them being complicit (alongside their political allies the U.S. and the U.K.) in human rights abuses in Yemen is a sign that they're actually genuine in their supposed desire for progress? They don't give a shit about it, it's the same reason you don't hear about the genocide going on in Yemen, because it wouldn't make the government look too favorable once everybody knows they've been bankrolling money by selling arms and tech directly to Saudi-backed militia groups and mercenaries who then use those to indiscriminately kill innocent civilians.
Not to mention women can't even drive yet, they could totally veto that bill and put the kibbosh on it before it happens.Welcome to LOLFAQs, where anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
"Hahahahahahaha" - Mara AramovAzumaNaroon posted...Not to mention women can't even drive yet, they could totally veto that bill and put the kibbosh on it before it happens.
They could.
And I'll criticize that too.This is the water, and this is the well.- Boards
- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- Michael Cole called Saudi Arabia progressive
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