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Doubt it.....gotta make that green whatever the moral objections
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We’ll probably find out today for sure, but they haven’t pulled out yet. And honestly, with that sort of money, I wouldn’t blame him for going ahead with it. Most people complaining would take that money for one days work and they know it.
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Meltzer says they aren't pulling out unless the state department or Donald Trump himself instructs Vince to.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer says they aren't pulling out unless the state department or Donald Trump himself instructs Vince to. So that's a definite no then. Let's see how Cena reacts. |
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They are going to downplay it's happening in SA, remove mentions of the location from the website, not mention where they are on the telecast. But still have it there and still fulfil their contractual opportunities.
That's just my guess.
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It'll be funny if even with it still happening, they never mention Crown Jewel once on Raw or SD.
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Honestly this is a really s***ty situation for WWE to be in regardless of what they do. They cancel/relocate the show, they risk losing out on a lot of money, legal issues over breach of contract, etc. They hold the show as planned, they risk losing sponsors, getting a lot of negative publicity, backlash on social media, etc. Plus either way they’re going to be looked at as the bad guy for making a long term business deal with SA to begin with.
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"I didn't pull out of Linda and there's no chance in hell that I'm pulling out of Saudi Arabia!" - Vince
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hulkhogan1 posted...
Plus either way they’re going to be looked at as the bad guy for making a long term business deal with SA to begin with "looked at as"
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I don't see why he would. None of what SA did has anything to do with Vince. It's also not exceptionally heinous nor is it something other countries (including the US) haven't done. It's actually tamer than a lot of what other countries have done.
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Knowledge_King posted...
I don't see why he would. None of what SA did has anything to do with Vince. It's also not exceptionally heinous nor is it something other countries (including the US) haven't done. It's actually tamer than a lot of what other countries have done. lol what and lol at including "the US" as if they aren't one of the worst offenders on the planet
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Knowledge_King posted...
I don't see why he would. None of what SA did has anything to do with Vince. It's also not exceptionally heinous nor is it something other countries (including the US) haven't done. It's actually tamer than a lot of what other countries have done. We found Vince's gamefaqs account guys. |
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NakedSnake1986 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...I don't see why he would. None of what SA did has anything to do with Vince. It's also not exceptionally heinous nor is it something other countries (including the US) haven't done. It's actually tamer than a lot of what other countries have done. But what he said is true though. It's actually a fact. You can't argue that even if you don't like it. |
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Well, we know for sure nothings gonna happen if the show is on. No title changes or anything since they won’t want that to be tied to the location.
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sleamey316 posted...
But what he said is true though. It's actually a fact. You can't argue that even if you don't like it. No he isn't. You can count on one hand the countries on the planet as fucked up as Saudi Arabia.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
sleamey316 posted...But what he said is true though. It's actually a fact. You can't argue that even if you don't like it. I'm not arguing that the Saudi government aren't fucked up people because they are. I was just saying that what that guy said is actually a fact. You can't argue that.
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sleamey316 posted...
I'm not arguing that the Saudi government aren't fucked up people because they are. I was just saying that what that guy was is actually a fact. You can't argue that. Yes you can. He said it's not especially heinous when there's very few countries actively doing what SA does and they're all heinous. He said Vince has nothing to do with it when he's producing paid propaganda to excuse it. It's like saying Goebbels had nothing to do with Nazi war crimes because all he did was his job as Minister of Propaganda.
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sleamey316 posted...
NakedSnake1986 posted...Knowledge_King posted...show hidden quote(s) And here's Triple H's account |
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer says they aren't pulling out unless the state department or Donald Trump himself instructs Vince to. I'm torn now On one hand, clearly Vince hasn't pulled out of any filthy hole in his life On the other hand, Meltzer said... And that pile of possum shit is brainless so....
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sleamey316 posted...
We’ll probably find out today for sure, but they haven’t pulled out yet. And honestly, with that sort of money, I wouldn’t blame him for going ahead with it. Most people complaining would take that money for one days work and they know it. which is not comparable, and still wouldn't excuse them for being trash, but ok.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer says they aren't pulling out unless the state department or Donald Trump himself instructs Vince to. Meltzer makes shit up
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It doesnt seem like it, I would have expected them to at least issue a statement condemning the kidnapping/murder and describing their intent to review the current deal with SA. Surely thats the bare minimum lipservice
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The WWE is a business and they will make the decisions best suited to their business. If they want the money, than there is nothing anyone can do to force them to not stage the event. This is yet another reason, government and business should not be involved with one another beyond regulation to protect consumers and their rights or the environment. But, we have been inundated with corporate governance since Reagan and probably since Nixon in some ways. This whole thing should not even be a question. The WWE can make whatever decision they want. The wrestlers are contractors and if they signed up to perform they must perform or find an acceptable alternative to follow through on their obligation. This is simple truth. You the fan, may not like what WWE does in this instance and you can choose to boycott the product or show, if you so choose. But remember, there are probably 2 fans to your every one, who don't care because it does not personally impact their lives.
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ejolson posted...
The WWE is a business and they will make the decisions best suited to their business. This circular reasoning again. The whole point is that this looks god awful for them as a business
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
The killing of that one reporter/journalist is nothing compared to what tons of other countries do. For example, US bombing children.
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Knowledge_King posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted... exactly.
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Trickfinger posted...
ejolson posted...The WWE is a business and they will make the decisions best suited to their business. You are correct, it does, and I do not disagree. Honestly, though, out of the WWE fan base, do you believe the majority actually care enough to do something about it, like stop consuming the product or shut off their network subscription? Also, if they do, out of patriotism, doesn't the fact of supporting a government request to shut down a business deal fly in the face of their deregulation and keep government out of business arguments? Provided Trump's administration make that request.
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nah this'll blow over in two weeks time.
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Irenicus posted...
It doesnt seem like it, I would have expected them to at least issue a statement condemning the kidnapping/murder and describing their intent to review the current deal with SA. Surely thats the bare minimum lipservice They issued a blanket statement that they were looking into it. Like they’re looking into the Orton thing. Lol, this fuckin company...
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like when your parents used to tell you "we'll see"
in other words, gtfo my face.
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Knowledge_King posted...
The killing of that one reporter/journalist is nothing compared to what tons of other countries do. For example, US bombing children. They didn't just kill one reporter ffs. They're actively targeting school buses and hospitals for bombings because the "great reformer" who WWE spent the last show praising, Muhammad bin Salman wants Yemenis to "fear the name Saudi Arabia". He's a bloodthirsty warlord and having a journalist chopped up is just the tip of a gigantic iceberg. The USA is a fucked up country too. No debate there.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Knowledge_King posted...The killing of that one reporter/journalist is nothing compared to what tons of other countries do. For example, US bombing children. But the journalist is the thing everyone's up in arms about. Yeah those bombings suck, but again, if the US is already as bad, then what's the argument to NOT do business with SA?
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Knowledge_King posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...Knowledge_King posted...show hidden quote(s) <reasons>
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Knowledge_King posted...
But the journalist is the thing everyone's up in arms about. Yeah those bombings suck, but again, if the US is already as bad, then what's the argument to NOT do business with SA? WWE does business IN the USA. It's not on the government payroll to produce propaganda wrestling shows covering up American war crimes.
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Hmmmm...lets see if I can get my Olivia Pope on...
If they were to say that: We are doing the show still for the fans around the world, including the ones in Saudi Arabia who have nothing to do with any violence, war, or political issues. So many people across the seven seas, young and old, look up to our WWE superstars. Our company, World Wrestling Entertainment, understand this, and as an American company, one who proudly respects both our country's morals and our posisition as the leaders of the free world, to cancel the show would only hurt the innocent citizens of Saudi Arabia who have paid their hard earned money for a chance to interact with those that inspire them. As believers of the dream, hurting these fans by canceling the show would be...Unamerican...going against the US belief of freedom, justice and equality for all. We here at WWE will continue the show, as a representative of the US, for the civilians, the everyday man, woman and child. We are a company that represents the true American ideals of our nation, and while scrutiny will be expected from our detractors, know that it is misplaced and misguided. We continue our actions in good faith for the people. God Bless America and the world beyond. Would that reduce the potential PR nightmare? 🤔🤨 Alternatively, we could have a certain WWE Hall of Famer say it wasn't them...which actually looks like it's happening right now😂😂😂😂😂 The world never ceases to amaze me...
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Who WWE does business with is their own decision to make. If we judge their decisions to do so, how better are we to not only okay but encourage companies like NJPW to expand into countries with leaders who do horrible things of their own, such as the United States? Wouldn't that be a tad hypocritical?
Just because Saudi leaders can be horrible, like ours, it doesn't mean that its people don't deserve their own form of entertainment, even if you don't feel the company hasn't been delivering to you as such.
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DUKLegend posted...
Who WWE does business with is their own decision to make. If we judge their decisions to do so, how better are we to not only okay but encourage companies like NJPW to expand into countries with leaders who do horrible things of their own, such as the United States? Wouldn't that be a tad hypocritical? I must have missed the part of the NJPW US shows where they started talking about how great Donald Trump was and how he was making America great again. How many times do we need to say the problem is that WWE is producing Saudi PROPAGANDA shows before you fucking morons understand what the issue is here.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
DUKLegend posted...Who WWE does business with is their own decision to make. If we judge their decisions to do so, how better are we to not only okay but encourage companies like NJPW to expand into countries with leaders who do horrible things of their own, such as the United States? Wouldn't that be a tad hypocritical? This. If WWE wants to put on a wrestling show for the people of Saudi Arabia, that's fine. And if they want to put on a show for the people of China, that's fine. If the people have the free choice to attend or not, and decide they want to see wrestling, great. The problem is when WWE becomes a producer of propaganda for a dictatorship. In this instance, the Saudi shows are not even for the people of KSA. The audience is the West.
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I'll be shocked if this is cancelled.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
WWE does business IN the USA. It's not on the government payroll to produce propaganda wrestling shows covering up American war crimes. Tribute to the Troops?
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pycho316 posted...
"I didn't pull out of Linda and there's no chance in hell that I'm pulling out of Saudi Arabia!" - Vince love it. lmao
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Knowledge_King posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...WWE does business IN the USA. It's not on the government payroll to produce propaganda wrestling shows covering up American war crimes. Homerun
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bigpoppapat posted...
Well, we know for sure nothings gonna happen if the show is on. No title changes or anything since they won’t want that to be tied to the location. They'd probably move the marquee matches (U title, DXvsBoD, maybe even AJvsDB) to SvS.
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