Once again, troll topic, clearly, but if I approach it with an open perspective, I actually have tuppence to add. "Positive discrimination" is something that's been floating around for the past near-decade, but only really gone into overdrive in the past five. I remember it well when working for a larger AAA studio (maybe not the one you think) and we went through a phase where the studio only ever seemed to hire minorities or women. Now, I've no problem with either of these types of people, but it started to get a bit suspect. When we had studio photographs, the photographer would order all the women to stand at the front. Some of the female developers argued that it was "great" - more women in games! Well, it SOUNDS great, sure, but when everyone's on this mad mission to hire only women or minorities, what does that make you, to be hired at that time? Are you hired because of your SKILL, or because you were convenient to tick a box with? If I had been in that predicament, it'd put me in a horrible state of anxiety. Was I chosen because I'm good enough or not? Did I stop another, far more talented individual from getting the job because of the colour of my skin or what's between my legs? And of course... would my fellow employees think less of me just because I was hired during this covert-but-quite-obvious "diversity drive"? Would they shun me, demonise me, or even create an even MORE tribal setup in the studio (with girls sitting with girls, boys sitting with boys, etc). I remember when our studio head was appointed, and she said - and I'm not paraphrasing this - "I'm fed up of it being a middle-aged white man's job. We've got enough of those." She paused for a chuckle, but, of course, the majority of us were white men, and found it pretty insulting. Some people have this "we want reparations!" mentality that means "equality" doesn't actually mean "equality" or "equity" but instead means "we want to rubberband the situation and get MORE than you as reparations for all those years we had no representation!" - which can only lead to another rubberbanding situation further down the line. Equality is just that - equality. If I hire someone, it's because they're best for the job. If they all happen to be men, or women, or T-rexes - so be it. There will be no agenda.
Though, rather hilariously, our company ended up being a disabled Scot (me), a woman, and a French man. So we've ticked some boxes already. Snort.
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So he didn't earn it? People didn't buy the game, they just threw money at him, huh?
I'm talking about Microsoft buying it for $2.5 billion out of nowhere. It has left him with nothing to do with his time and no need to be productive, leading to him being an idiot on Twitter instead.
If you're just going to keep nitpicking then you can fuck off anyway.
I'm not the one trying to prove a weak point with weak info to back it up. He wasn't given anything, he sold it, it was his to sell. I smell JELLY!
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He's not right. And even if he were right, there are few with the wealth and or clout to even do anything to affect the "white man". He's safe.
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I'm talking about Microsoft buying it for $2.5 billion out of nowhere. It has left him with nothing to do with his time and no need to be productive, leading to him being an idiot on Twitter instead.
If you're just going to keep nitpicking then you can fuck off anyway.
I'm not the one trying to prove a weak point with weak info to back it up.
He wasn't given anything, he sold it, it was his to sell. I smell JELLY!
You're an idiot. Welcome to my ignore list.
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And even if he were right, there are few with the wealth and or clout to even do anything to affect the "white man". He's safe.
But he's not talking about "The White Man", the mythical shadowy NWO thats keeping Minorities "in their place", he's talking about singular White men. In certain vocal circles simply existing as a White man is taboo. These people are obviously insane but weeds grow.
HOLY ****! What is this? Forged in Gods very flames! Do mine eyes tell me lies? A new Elder Scrolls game?
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And even if he were right, there are few with the wealth and or clout to even do anything to affect the "white man". He's safe.
But he's not talking about "The White Man", the mythical shadowy NWO thats keeping Minorities "in their place", he's talking about singular White men. In certain vocal circles simply existing as a White man is taboo.
These people are obviously insane but weeds grow.
Lord, and people don't believe that the human genome is degenerating.
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I'm not the one trying to prove a weak point with weak info to back it up.
He wasn't given anything, he sold it, it was his to sell. I smell JELLY!
You're an idiot. Welcome to my ignore list.
You couldn't just tag me with (Idiot) like I did to you?
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But he's not talking about "The White Man", the mythical shadowy NWO thats keeping Minorities "in their place", he's talking about singular White men. In certain vocal circles simply existing as a White man is taboo.
These people are obviously insane but weeds grow.
Lord, and people don't believe that the human genome is degenerating.
You're living proof!
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Lord, and people don't believe that the human genome is degenerating.
Ah, Ad hominem? I expect better from you.
HOLY ****! What is this? Forged in Gods very flames! Do mine eyes tell me lies? A new Elder Scrolls game?
Time is nigh, I must fly, Venture forth on my quest!
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The world we live in has turned upside down. The people doing the oppressing back in the days now feel the most oppressed.
Except we aren't the same people, unless you are talking about folks that are 70 or older.
You racist bruh.
They aren't??? Who would have known. I think in the context that I've used people I meant race and not an actual person. Actually reading and understanding context would have helped you with that. It Should have been clear I was making note of how the tides have shifted. You might be the racist one here because you immediately went to racism. That's a tell-tale sign of someone who's a racist.
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Except we aren't the same people, unless you are talking about folks that are 70 or older.
You racist bruh.
They aren't??? Who would have known.
I think in the context that I've used people I meant race and not an actual person. Actually reading and understanding context would have helped you with that. It Should have been clear I was making note of how the tides have shifted.
You might be the racist one here because you immediately went to racism.
That's a tell-tale sign of someone who's a racist.
I had no problem with the context. Just pointing out that you are generalizing whether you say it one way or the other. I like how you immediately deflected the racism to me lol. I'm calling you racist because you seem to enjoy that the tables have supposedly turned. If it was so atrocious what whites did to blacks back then, why would you seem okay with the opposite today?
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They aren't??? Who would have known.
I think in the context that I've used people I meant race and not an actual person. Actually reading and understanding context would have helped you with that. It Should have been clear I was making note of how the tides have shifted.
You might be the racist one here because you immediately went to racism.
That's a tell-tale sign of someone who's a racist.
I had no problem with the context. Just pointing out that you are generalizing whether you say it one way or the other.
I like how you immediately deflected the racism to me lol. I'm calling you racist because you seem to enjoy that the tables have supposedly turned. If it was so atrocious what whites did to blacks back then, why would you seem okay with the opposite today?
Does not compute..... You had no issue with the context.... but then made an assumption not based on the context. Then telling me I'm deflecting after YOU brought up the racist card for some reason. This conversation shouldn't be happening because you're turning it into something it's not.
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This is gonna turn into a 500 of nothing but "OH YEAH"?! So nerdy.
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I had no problem with the context. Just pointing out that you are generalizing whether you say it one way or the other.
I like how you immediately deflected the racism to me lol. I'm calling you racist because you seem to enjoy that the tables have supposedly turned. If it was so atrocious what whites did to blacks back then, why would you seem okay with the opposite today?
Does not compute..... You had no issue with the context.... but then made an assumption not based on the context. Then telling me I'm deflecting after YOU brought up the racist card for some reason.
This conversation shouldn't be happening because you're turning it into something it's not.
WHat? I should have known better. Logic is not their strong suit.
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not just white men though..... you have to be a straight white man. if you check all three of those boxes you're the most hated, least protected, most disadvantaged group in the civilized world in 2018. Inspite of all of that we are still the Alphas though 🤷♂
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Does not compute..... You had no issue with the context.... but then made an assumption not based on the context. Then telling me I'm deflecting after YOU brought up the racist card for some reason.
This conversation shouldn't be happening because you're turning it into something it's not.
WHat?
I should have known better. Logic is not their strong suit.
Read and comprehend next time before making silly accusations. Ty. Gamefaqs: where people argue with you based on how they feel about your posts and not what the posts actually says
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WHat?
I should have known better. Logic is not their strong suit.
Read and comprehend next time before making silly accusations. Ty.
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Way to 'word salad' your way out of that one!
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masculinity in general is under attack...white men aren't usually under fire so I can understand the concern. at this moment they seem to be getting it from all angles lol...they are accused of being racists, homophobic, rapists, and accused at oppressing every group in America LMAO Trump is not making it any better Me personally idgaf...I just sit back with popcorn and watch the american circus
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This is gonna turn into a 500 of nothing but "OH YEAH"?!
So nerdy.
ohh...YEAH?!?!
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Lol
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Omfg Spike I know romaine lettuce just had a recall but you don't need to be a racist Over generalizing salad. How would regular salad feel??? Jeez.
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you have to be a straight white man. if you check all three of those boxes you're the most hated, least protected, most disadvantaged group in the civilized world
Lmao seriously, shut up.
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you have to be a straight white man. if you check all three of those boxes you're the most hated, least protected, most disadvantaged group in the civilized world
Lmao seriously, shut up.
truth hurts?
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Well, it SOUNDS great, sure, but when everyone's on this mad mission to hire only women or minorities, what does that make you, to be hired at that time? Are you hired because of your SKILL, or because you were convenient to tick a box with?
If I had been in that predicament, it'd put me in a horrible state of anxiety. Was I chosen because I'm good enough or not? Did I stop another, far more talented individual from getting the job because of the colour of my skin or what's between my legs? And of course... would my fellow employees think less of me just because I was hired during this covert-but-quite-obvious "diversity drive"?
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Equality is just that - equality. If I hire someone, it's because they're best for the job. If they all happen to be men, or women, or T-rexes - so be it. There will be no agenda.
The problem with the second part is that there's rarely a best person for the job. Usually there's several equally qualified candidates. And that leads to the problem with the first part, namely that statistically white men are hired more frequently than equally qualified candidates and that the data suggests that for some, namely blacks, the level of discrimination hasn't changed in about a quarter century... https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/09/11/1706255114So... shouldn't then every white male who's hired already be wondering if they were hired because of what's between their legs and the color of their skin since every study done shows that it's statistically more likely that would have been based on no other factors? And yet you never really see any white men fretting about it, just being concerned that someone else might fret were the scales potentially weighted by some thing other than the established institutionalised biases.
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He's not wrong.
This. Just see how riddled up people get if you post stuff like "it's ok to be white" in schools.
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xlr_big-coop posted...
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He's not wrong.
This. Just see how riddled up people get if you post stuff like "it's ok to be white" in schools.
New York, demographically, is about 40% white. The black and Latino population together is also around 40%. Yet blacks and Latinos represented around 90% of who got stopped under the stop and frisk program. And the vast majority were guilty of nothing. And that's in NY, a rather progressive state. You don't need anyone to tell you it's okay to be white. You have basically every statistic ever collected to do that for you.
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This. Just see how riddled up people get if you post stuff like "it's ok to be white" in schools.
New York, demographically, is about 40% white. The black and Latino population together is also around 40%. Yet blacks and Latinos represented around 90% of who got stopped under the stop and frisk program. And the vast majority were guilty of nothing. And that's in NY, a rather progressive state.
You don't need anyone to tell you it's okay to be white. You have basically every statistic ever collected to do that for you.
What's the ratio for different races in the NYC police force? It would be hard to believe Black and Latino cops were being racist against their own.
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New York, demographically, is about 40% white. The black and Latino population together is also around 40%. Yet blacks and Latinos represented around 90% of who got stopped under the stop and frisk program. And the vast majority were guilty of nothing. And that's in NY, a rather progressive state.
You don't need anyone to tell you it's okay to be white. You have basically every statistic ever collected to do that for you.
What's the ratio for different races in the NYC police force? It would be hard to believe Black and Latino cops were being racist against their own.
Not that hard to believe at all. The thing about institutionalised bias is that everyone plays the part. It's generally not an intentional act of bigotry, so much as people subconsciously acting on notions society as drilled into us. Studies have shown that black men working in human resources are less likely to hire equally qualified black men when there is a white male applicant as an option. Obviously they don't hate black men, but we've been programmed by society, the media and hundreds of years of history to see white faces as more desirable.
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What's the ratio for different races in the NYC police force? It would be hard to believe Black and Latino cops were being racist against their own.
Not that hard to believe at all.
The thing about institutionalised bias is that everyone plays the part. It's generally not an intentional act of bigotry, so much as people subconsciously acting on notions society as drilled into us.
Studies have shown that black men working in human resources are less likely to hire equally qualified black men when there is a white male applicant as an option. Obviously they don't hate black men, but we've been programmed by society, the media and hundreds of years of history to see white faces as more desirable.
I live in Manhattan. The black officers can be worse than the whites when dealing with their own race. Same goes for Puerto Rican cops too.
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Lmao seriously, shut up.
truth hurts?
It must hurt very bad. I find it slightly humorous that the ones who are hurt and offended for every race, made up gender, and females are also the ones who hate white straight men the most and say something stupid like, "OMG like shut uuuuup" when anyone points out the systematic racism towards whites, especially men.
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There has been an agenda against asian men for like forever but nobody gave a shit about that, so why should anyone give a shit about this
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Lmao seriously, shut up.
truth hurts?
Heh no That would be asian men
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truth hurts?
Heh no
That would be asian men
Wrong. There is absolutely zero agenda towards Asian men. You confuse agenda vs not many around. Asians are the minority of minority in America and overall everyone loves Asian people. You keep to yourself and don't run around screaming woe is me. Well you do, but no one else does. Someone has to start the pound me too movement. Might as well be you!
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There's an agenda against Romaine lettuce.. I'm here to stop it. They're trying to make salad's look bad.
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There is an agenda against white men..
Mostly pushed by S J W s.
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Heh no
That would be asian men
Wrong. There is absolutely zero agenda towards Asian men. You confuse agenda vs not many around. Asians are the minority of minority in America and overall everyone loves Asian people. You keep to yourself and don't run around screaming woe is me. Well you do, but no one else does. Someone has to start the pound me too movement. Might as well be you!
Ahahaha you obviously don't watch much mainstream media
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If you ain't white, you ain't right... ...is what I'm just waiting for someone to say in this dumpster fire of a topic. Seriously, can't we all just get along?
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What's the ratio for different races in the NYC police force? It would be hard to believe Black and Latino cops were being racist against their own.
Not that hard to believe at all.
The thing about institutionalised bias is that everyone plays the part. It's generally not an intentional act of bigotry, so much as people subconsciously acting on notions society as drilled into us.
Studies have shown that black men working in human resources are less likely to hire equally qualified black men when there is a white male applicant as an option. Obviously they don't hate black men, but we've been programmed by society, the media and hundreds of years of history to see white faces as more desirable.
I bet you said that with a straight face too...
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Not that hard to believe at all.
The thing about institutionalised bias is that everyone plays the part. It's generally not an intentional act of bigotry, so much as people subconsciously acting on notions society as drilled into us.
Studies have shown that black men working in human resources are less likely to hire equally qualified black men when there is a white male applicant as an option. Obviously they don't hate black men, but we've been programmed by society, the media and hundreds of years of history to see white faces as more desirable.
I live in Manhattan. The black officers can be worse than the whites when dealing with their own race. Same goes for Puerto Rican cops too.
Sounds like they know what's up. Maybe they aren't looking at race and are seeing a criminal for who he is, a criminal, maybe they don't consider skin color. Just a thought.
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Wrong. There is absolutely zero agenda towards Asian men. You confuse agenda vs not many around. Asians are the minority of minority in America and overall everyone loves Asian people. You keep to yourself and don't run around screaming woe is me. Well you do, but no one else does. Someone has to start the pound me too movement. Might as well be you!
Ahahaha you obviously don't watch much mainstream media
Examples please? If it's that bad, it shouldn't be hard to find examples.
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Can this guy be anymore cringe inducing?
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Positive discrimination isn't discrimination against white men. Its a realisation that society excluded those from various backgrounds from participating in the workforce and politics. The idea isn't just to take any ethnic minority persons of the street and employ them, but to shine a spotlight on those who are qualified and actively take them into positions they may have been overlooked for or were unaware they could fill. White men aren't done a disservice by this, it's literally correcting hundreds of years of discrimination that they indirectly have benefitted from. What's wrong with making workplaces representative of the societies they serve?
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IHATEMYGT posted...
What's wrong with making workplaces representative of the societies they serve?
Becauses its racist to hire people based on skin color..
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This. Just see how riddled up people get if you post stuff like "it's ok to be white" in schools.
New York, demographically, is about 40% white. The black and Latino population together is also around 40%. Yet blacks and Latinos represented around 90% of who got stopped under the stop and frisk program. And the vast majority were guilty of nothing. And that's in NY, a rather progressive state.
You don't need anyone to tell you it's okay to be white. You have basically every statistic ever collected to do that for you.
whites commit crime at a lot lower rate per capita than black and brown people too though. whatever the police are doing in NYC is working. the crime rate as plummeted there
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What's wrong with making workplaces representative of the societies they serve?
Becauses its racist to hire people based on skin color..
Sigh, I'll copy this in again because I don't think you read it. The idea isn't just to take any ethnic minority persons of the street and employ them, but to shine a spotlight on those who are qualified and actively take them into positions they may have been overlooked for or were unaware they could fill. White men aren't done a disservice by this, it's literally correcting hundreds of years of discrimination that they indirectly have benefitted from.
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Becauses its racist to hire people based on skin color..
Sigh, I'll copy this in again because I don't think you read it.
The idea isn't just to take any ethnic minority persons of the street and employ them, but to shine a spotlight on those who are qualified and actively take them into positions they may have been overlooked for or were unaware they could fill.
White men aren't done a disservice by this, it's literally correcting hundreds of years of discrimination that they indirectly have benefitted from.
bull shit
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Becauses its racist to hire people based on skin color..
Sigh, I'll copy this in again because I don't think you read it.
The idea isn't just to take any ethnic minority persons of the street and employ them, but to shine a spotlight on those who are qualified and actively take them into positions they may have been overlooked for or were unaware they could fill.
White men aren't done a disservice by this, it's literally correcting hundreds of years of discrimination that they indirectly have benefitted from.
Its racist to hire people based on skin color.. Btw, im black.
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Well, it SOUNDS great, sure, but when everyone's on this mad mission to hire only women or minorities, what does that make you, to be hired at that time? Are you hired because of your SKILL, or because you were convenient to tick a box with?
If I had been in that predicament, it'd put me in a horrible state of anxiety. Was I chosen because I'm good enough or not? Did I stop another, far more talented individual from getting the job because of the colour of my skin or what's between my legs? And of course... would my fellow employees think less of me just because I was hired during this covert-but-quite-obvious "diversity drive"?
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Equality is just that - equality. If I hire someone, it's because they're best for the job. If they all happen to be men, or women, or T-rexes - so be it. There will be no agenda.
The problem with the second part is that there's rarely a best person for the job. Usually there's several equally qualified candidates. And that leads to the problem with the first part, namely that statistically white men are hired more frequently than equally qualified candidates and that the data suggests that for some, namely blacks, the level of discrimination hasn't changed in about a quarter century...
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/09/11/1706255114
So... shouldn't then every white male who's hired already be wondering if they were hired because of what's between their legs and the color of their skin since every study done shows that it's statistically more likely that would have been based on no other factors?
And yet you never really see any white men fretting about it, just being concerned that someone else might fret were the scales potentially weighted by some thing other than the established institutionalised biases.
Understandable, but as I say oh-so-frequently on here, if people tell me one thing, but I've only ever seen another, I tend to value my own eyes first and foremost. By no means is it demonising or devaluing your information or stance, just... at least anecdotally, that's a few times now I've worked in a AAA game development role and I've watched a "positive discrimination" drive occurring. Of course I won't go so far as to go into too many details here, but during the hiring process, one of my friends, now an ex-colleague, was (and still is) in a senior role and spoke about how he felt sad for (X hirer) because he "had to" turn down the best candidate for the job. And I saw the portfolios - I can attest to this, the technical ability of the "losing" party was superior. But, the following week, we welcomed on eight or nine new members of the team - all but two were female (and those that were male were black), and one of them was trans. Now, look, I am a keen advocate for diversity here, but given that we're in the UK and the applicants usually skew around about 70-80% male, that has to have been an EXCEEDINGLY unusual hiring period, if we're going to say that "positive discrimination" is not a real thing. It makes it harder to have diversity in the long-run. Instead of dilution/diversification of the staff pool in an organic way, it's instead undermining not only the hiring process, but also the people that may have been hired for a handy checkbox and neat photograph opportunity to put on the next newsletter. Nobody wants to be hired because of their sex or race, but as my own wife says, "even I worried about it. Everyone made a big deal about me being a girl developer, kept asking me to write in-house articles, trying to put me on the website etc. - was I hired because I was the best for the job, or was I just really useful to the company for other purposes?"
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The word diversity is just a SJW word for less white men.
Culture is more important than skin color.
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