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http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/12/11914658/electronic-arts-e3-press-conference-gun-violence
Really classy, using the massacre of dozens of innocent people to shame a demographic you don't like.
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tbh i think video games are getting too violent these days.
like i have no problem with games with fantasy or non-human violence like DOOM, or games like Mortal Kombat where the violence is so over-the-top and obvious that it's a gimmick, but what kind of bugs me are the games where ultra-violence isn't a defining factor of the game but really violent s*** is thrown in anyway. im talking about games like tomb raider or CoD or something where it's just a regular action game that probably could have been T rated but violent execution kills are thrown in obviously this doesn't cause real violence but i think it does desnsitize people a little bit, especially the young kids that play games like CoD that are deceptively violent.
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The Admiral posted...
I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. Wasn't it the ultra religious doing that back then? Crazy how the left has become so similar to people they hate.
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foreveraIone posted...
The Admiral posted...I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. No, it was not the ultra-religious. It was actually all democrats who were against violent video games. The head of the movement was actually Hilary Clinton lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act
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green butter posted...
tbh i think video games are getting too violent these days. media is becoming more violent, last PG-13 movie I saw had some Mortal Kombat fatalities. I mean one of them was wholesaled ripped off from Deadly Alliance.
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you hear about the writer who complained about the microsoft dancers?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthickey/2016/03/18/microsoft-apologises-for-half-naked-ladies-at-gaming-event-and-promises-to-do-better guess what he was doing. http://www.thestranger.com/feature/2016/06/08/24182705/the-audition
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green butter posted...
foreveraIone posted...The Admiral posted...I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. Schwarzenegger in Cali tried to do the same exact thing. It wasn't all dems doing it, it was people from both sides of the aisle. |
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Dathrowed1 posted...
green butter posted...tbh i think video games are getting too violent these days. I agree. IMO it is kind of becoming a problem. I have no issue with violent stuff but I don't like how typically non-very-violent things are becoming more violent because it's an easy way to get more views/players/etc. I think it is becoming a cultural issue and obviously it doesnt cause any kind of real violence but it is a drop in the bucket
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foreveraIone posted...
The Admiral posted...I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. might have been but generally the self appointed moral guardians. More liekly to be religious in the past when it was certainly more fashionable, but its nowhere near as powerful it was in the past. in terms of historical events. Like you can go back in the 80's with Tipper Gore and PMRC(twisted sister and john denver(sunshine on my shoulder makes me happy) on the same side? you had the satanic Dungeons and Dragons scare you had it with rock and roll before that. f***ing elvis was controversial with his hips swinging i'm sure if you go back further you'll find them blaming jazz this pattern repeats constantly throughout history. some "societal ill" is blamed on some media
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ZombiePelican posted...
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/12/11914658/electronic-arts-e3-press-conference-gun-violence Someone should write a response to that guy about how dare he write this article while there are starving children in Africa.
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The Admiral posted...
I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. Surely you're kidding. Developers pander to these idiots all of the time now. That's why anything mildly sexual is censored. Violent video games are the next to go, I'll be legitimately shocked if they're still around as much in the next 5 years.
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ViralMoose posted...
I would like to point out that is has never actually been proven that violent video games make people more violent after playing them. I didnt read all of it, but that didnt seem like the point. Its more about the glorification of violence in our society
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metralo posted...
The Admiral posted...I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. It's too late to change anything at E3. I don't know if you noticed, but virtually every Bethesda spokesperson was wearing some kind of rainbow flag badge or pin. I'm sure they'd love to talk about it, but they have a job to do as well.
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metralo posted...
The Admiral posted...I remember this exact same rhetoric attacking Half-Life after Columbine. No one took these fools seriously then, no one will now either. In the meantime violent games are still being made like Doom and will continue to be made despite all this fake outrage that no one who plays video games cares at all about. Developers know that gamers don't really care about this s***.
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Ok a side note.
Why do people have to drop what they're doing and overtly mourn when there's a tragedy? I guess more specifically why do people get their jimmies rustled when others don't do this? Maybe some just want to cope in their own way, or would rather surround themselves with some thing happy or enjoyable? Flying my flag at half staff so to speak doesn't help anyone currently or prevent the next tragedy. I'd rather just go on with my business or, if truly impassioned by an event, go out and actually get active in working to fix things.
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All the Bethesda people on in the conference last night were wearing gay pride pins because of the terrorist attack (yes it is a terrorist attack not a mass shooting).
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Gids_goft posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...So what are those SJWs doing today to support the victims? Solely b****ing about an unrelated demographic online? I never claimed or thought I was helping someone. I'm just criticizing stupidity.
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Xeno14 posted...
you hear about the writer who complained about the microsoft dancers? holy s***
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NikoIai posted...
ViralMoose posted...I would like to point out that is has never actually been proven that violent video games make people more violent after playing them. This is doublespeak. In what way is violence glorified in games if they don't actually encourage violent behavior? How do video games "glorify" violence in a way movies and music do not? Why do video game creators get this kind of treatment by SJWs, but not mosques that read from a book they proclaim is the final and unalterable revelation of Allah, which includes speech about killing nonbelievers? |
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it is odd how they defend Islam so much despite the attacker himself saying he did it for Islam
then turn around and say playing video games means you will go shoot up places
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ViralMoose posted...
NikoIai posted...ViralMoose posted...I would like to point out that is has never actually been proven that violent video games make people more violent after playing them. i'm playing the new Doom and there is literally a mechanic called Glory Kills in it lol honestly video games do tend to glorify violence. extra points for doing finishing moves, rewarding players with gratuitous headshots etc i cannot think of many movies that callously feature nostop violence that doesn't have any kind of message attached to it. maybe like some B horror movie? but i wouldn't say saving private ryan and call of duty are on the same emotional level. the violence in video games is waaaaaay higher than any movie and is presented in a much different way. you consume the violence in games, you are the perpeturator of it etc
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Yesterday, I decided against watching John Wick because a bullet-filled film probably wasn't the best thing to watch. Tonight, I might watch it. That's how life works.
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green butter posted...
i'm playing the new Doom and there is literally a mechanic called Glory Kills in it lol If playing violent games don't make people commit violence more frequently, then video games don't encourage violence in any meaningful way. And why would they? There is no similarity between shooting someone in a video game vs. real life. No sensation about using a controller and using a gun is comparable. The motives for doing one or the other are entirely unrelated. Not even in the most superficial ways is playing Doom similar to actually holding a gun and killing real people. It's no surprise then that no study has shown a link between playing violent games and increased violent behavior. This argument is completely asinine and I am genuinely disappointed that we as a society haven't gotten past it like we have with Rock & Roll making kids into delinquents. It. Is. A. Fantasy. |
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You might as well link to the tweets of Justin McElroy (Polygon writer), Johnathon Blow (developer of Braid), Jen Whittaker (Destruction writer), Mattie Brice, and Johnathon McIntosh blaming or otherwise linking the video games industry to the shooting.
In the case of McIntosh, he blamed the gun culture and casual homophobia in America for it and blamed video games for glorifying and fetis***ing guns and gun culture. While calling gamers reactive islamophobes.
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Esrac posted...
In the case of McIntosh, he blamed the gun culture and casual homophobia in America for it and blamed video games for glorifying and fetis***ing guns and gun culture. While calling gamers reactive islamophobes. He is Anita Sarkeesian's ghostwriter so this sort of sensationalist falsehood coming from him is unsurprising. |
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ViralMoose posted...
Esrac posted...In the case of McIntosh, he blamed the gun culture and casual homophobia in America for it and blamed video games for glorifying and fetis***ing guns and gun culture. While calling gamers reactive islamophobes. That sounds about right. |
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green butter posted...
ViralMoose posted...NikoIai posted...ViralMoose posted...I would like to point out that is has never actually been proven that violent video games make people more violent after playing them. If we're talking about video games its less about the actual media (otherwise you can blame rock, metal, rap music for generally promoting violent ideals) and more about an increasing number of people who have trouble distinguishing fiction and reality due to their lifestyle. So it's more about the individual than the actual media
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ViralMoose posted...
green butter posted...i'm playing the new Doom and there is literally a mechanic called Glory Kills in it lol Do you seriously believing that violent video games do not have any kind of effect on a person (especially kids) who (potentially) plays them over and over again, for hours upon hours a day? I am definitely not saying they are a cause, but I do believe they contribute to a trend of desensitization towards violence. You just get used to it in video games in a way that most people don't get with any other medium (like film).
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green butter posted...
Do you seriously believing that violent video games do not have any kind of effect on a person (especially kids) who (potentially) plays them over and over again, for hours upon hours a day? No. Do you have any proof that it does? green butter posted... I am definitely not saying they are a cause, but I do believe they contribute to a trend of desensitization towards violence. You just get used to it in video games in a way that most people don't get with any other medium (like film). I am unimpressed by your attempt at amateur psychology. Show some evidence that anything you said here is valid. |
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The most that a video game can do to a sane person is get them mad. If you're concerned about what effect games on a insane person, well they're insane, virtually any stimulus like film can trigger them.
In the case of this recent shooter, he had a hate switch that did not turn off. He got radicalized over the internet because he had to feed his hatred. It became cyclical. So yeah, video games are a unique media, but the most video games can do is relieve stress or inflict stress on normal/everyday people.
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green butter posted...
ViralMoose posted...green butter posted...i'm playing the new Doom and there is literally a mechanic called Glory Kills in it lol Quiet, Jack.
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green butter posted...
ViralMoose posted...green butter posted...i'm playing the new Doom and there is literally a mechanic called Glory Kills in it lol "I'm not saying they're a cause, but they're a cause." Is what you sound like.
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