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I was born in 1986 and raised in Chicago then the suburbs of Chicago when I was a kid. So all my life I've been a die hard Bulls fan. I love Michael Jordan, I mean, how could I not? He's one of the best basketball players of all time. LeBron wants to be/beat Michael Jordan because why wouldn't he go after the greatest? With this Cavs championship I'm noticing every one hate on LeBron like crazy. My question is for anyone old enough to remember, did every one who wasn't a Bulls fan hate Micheal Jordan this much too? I'm obviously biased (that's why I'm asking) but other than the NBA Jam thing I don't really remember people hating on Jordan as much as James.
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social media would eat MJ alive just like lebron
Jordan punching Kerr in practice? You see how they rip JR for hitting the club after the finals? Now imagine a guy getting a hangover the morning of a finals game from partying
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Before Jordan won his first championship he got a ton of hate
- couldn't win the big one - just a scorer and ballhog who won't play within an offense - jerk who couldn't get along with any of his teammates - jerk who got doug Collins fired and clashes with management - cant get past the pistons physical defense the internet wasn't what it is now obviously so it didn't blow up as fast before he ended up winning but yeah the media and fans got on him pretty bad for a while
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dont think so, not when he wins and had an automatic shot, epic defence and could close out games and take over. if anything his team would be slammed for not helping him and being rubbish. plus jordan delivered when he talked the talk and even then it wasnt arrogant.
He never said things like chosen one, not 1,2,3,4 etc. he never blocked footage of a young kid dunking on him. didnt demand media presence for any talks he would make about his contract. james gets it because he tries too much, jordan let his game do the talking and at times when james promises and fails to deliver he has to eat his own words also what dj said, my comments stand for the 90s era when he got the job done
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In the late eighties when he won his first league MVP, I think 88' and the Defensive Player of the Year award a lot of other players in the league thought he was getting too much praise for not winning anything yet. Throw in the signature shoes and all the endorsements and he was kinda despised. Especially by certain players and fans of the old guard.
Pistons, Celtics and Lakers fans were a little upset because they felt like he was taking some of the shine away from already established greats like Magic, Bird, and Isaiah. Being around 10 years old at the time I loved him, even though I was and still am a Lakers fan. He had a certain style and "controlled recklessness" I guess that wasn't seen before. Most young people gravitated towards him, older fans took more time to come around.
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dj4242 posted...
Before Jordan won his first championship he got a ton of hate Yeah the Bad Boys 30 for 30 was one of my favorites. It had the best ending (Bulls beating the Pistons and going on to start the first 3-peat) and it was narrated by Kid Rock which is hilarious to me. That being said Pippen was a bigger part of that team than people give him credit for IMO. Without him Jordan wouldn't have been able to do as much as he ended up doing in his career.
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mobilebloechel posted...
He wasn't liked by other teams or media because they didn't have him. I've seen him play live in amazing games where he destroyed the home team at the last minute, and as much as it sucked, the crowd was genuinely amazed at his skill. Yeah I saw him play when my dad would take me to games at the United Center a handful of times and they never lost. I feel like seeing him in person do some remarkable things is something that I'll always appreciate for the rest of my life.
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Bujubounty posted...
I'm sure you have already(being a big Jordan fan), but just in case you haven't TC for further knowledge on this topic go watch his masterpiece NBA docs: I've only seen the first one. I'll definitely be checking out the others. Appreciate the heads up.
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TreGooda posted...
No, he was beloved, he was in an era where you could control marketing, pre internet in every home. He just seemed more likable to me. To be honest though I don't even know what makes LeBron so "unlikable" honestly. Maybe because Jordan never went to another team in the middle of his career to win championships? I know Cavs fans despised James for doing that even though the obviously are in love with him now.
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XxGhaleonxX posted...
TreGooda posted...No, he was beloved, he was in an era where you could control marketing, pre internet in every home. I'm quite sure he wouldn't have if he was in Jordan's situation.
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Ray_AP_37 posted...
I'm not sure, but I think the 96 Finals was the time when people realized he has to be considered possible GOAT. Numbers, championships, Finals MVPs, and then coming back, breaking records, and winning more titles. I just watched highlights from the series against Seattle. I miss 90's basketball so much and not just because the Bulls won most of the championships from that decade.
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no not nearly as much since that was
1: before 24/7 news and social media 2: before people actually learned their athlete heroes weren't all perfect gods and actually took criticism of them seriously instead of being blind fans Jordan today would be absolutely eviscerated beyond anything close to Lebron if he pulled the same crap he did back then |
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The absolute worst s*** Lebron did would look like playthings if the worst s*** Jordan did got public don't even lie
Imagine if Lebron stayed up all night gambling then showed up to a playoff game which he proceeded to lose. And the media had proof and reported it That story sticks around for an entire year, minimum. But in Jordan's era you only knew about it if you read a random article in the newspaper and the reporters didn't even follow up on it 24 hours later |
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Ray_AP_37 posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...He absolutely ring chased, and made a spectacle of it. I didn't once blame LeBron, I'm talking about why people hate him. You caught my post before I deleted it (because I didn't want to get into a drawn out discussion) so I'm responding to this.
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Jordan didn't get nearly the amount of hate due to the lack of social media back then but realistically speaking he was known for being a jerk to his teammates and to his coaches. There was also the whole "allegedly got his dad killed due to his gambling debts" thing
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SSj4Wingzero posted...
Jordan didn't get nearly the amount of hate due to the lack of social media back then but realistically speaking he was known for being a jerk to his teammates and to his coaches. There was also the whole "allegedly got his dad killed due to his gambling debts" thing Really? I never heard that theory before... Interesting.
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XxGhaleonxX posted...
Ray_AP_37 posted...I'm not sure, but I think the 96 Finals was the time when people realized he has to be considered possible GOAT. Numbers, championships, Finals MVPs, and then coming back, breaking records, and winning more titles. Nah it was the 98 shot over Russell to win the finals in game 6 I think. Everyone was just like wow he truly IS the GOAT.
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XxGhaleonxX posted...
SSj4Wingzero posted...It could be just a wacky conspiracy theory. Who knows? It appears now that that is the case, but there were rumors flying around back then that Jordan's dad was killed because Jordan owed money to some rather unsavory characters he had been gambling with. He'd have gotten torn up in today's social media.
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I think all of the hate on LeBron will be relatively forgotten in 20 years the way Jordan's is. I say relatively because there is a lot more for LeBron, But the hate for LeBron stems from The Decision and associated acts more than anything, along with being stifled in the Finals that year. It's hard to envision Jordan in today's game instead of when he played because that would mean there is no Jordan which has a lot to do with how we see stars today. I will bring up Kobe because while people say the media controlled Jordan's legacy the Kobe treatment this year was one of the largest about-face turns I've ever seen.
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ShotOJameson posted...
XxGhaleonxX posted...Ray_AP_37 posted...I'm not sure, but I think the 96 Finals was the time when people realized he has to be considered possible GOAT. Numbers, championships, Finals MVPs, and then coming back, breaking records, and winning more titles. Yeah that was great too.
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The thing about Lebron is that his good human nature is off camera while his bad qualities are full display as maybe the biggest on-court diva ever. Yet him being the one of the best humanitarian athletes is just something you read about.
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FinalFantasyIV posted...
The thing about Lebron is that his good human nature is off camera while his bad qualities are full display as maybe the biggest on-court diva ever. Maybe the space jam 2 movie will change that lol.
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