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MetaMajik 6 days ago#1 California becomes first 'sanctuary state' for undocumented migrants Los Angeles (AFP) - California became the first "sanctuary state" for undocumented immigrants Friday, a decision criticized by the Trump administration which believes the move will compromise security. California's governor, Democrat Jerry Brown, signed the landmark legislation -- Senate Bill 54 (SB54) -- which grants better protections to people who are in the US without permission, including those who have committed crimes. It also limits cooperation between local police forces and federal authorities in operations to track down undocumented immigrants. The legislation, which will come into effect on January 1, 2018, is part of a series of laws which protect the almost 3 million undocumented immigrants living in California -- most of whom are from Mexico and Central America. Brown insisted in his signing statement the measure will not "prevent or prohibit Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) or the Department of Homeland Security from doing their own work in any way" -- but it will stop local authorities from assisting. "They are free to use their own considerable resources to enforce federal immigration law in California," he wrote, adding that the new legislation will not deny ICE access to prisons. But in a statement, ICE acting director Tom Homan responded: "The governor is simply wrong." The law will "undermine public safety and hinder ICE from performing its federally mandated mission," Homan said. "Ultimately, SB54 (...) creates another magnet for more illegal immigration," he insisted, adding ICE will have "no choice but to conduct at-large arrests in local neighborhoods and at worksites, which will inevitably result in additional collateral arrests." ICE said it will also likely send immigrants arrested in California to detention centers outside of the state, "far from any family they may have in California." A number of cities in California, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco, have already banned police officers from collaborating with ICE on operations to capture undocumented immigrants. Last week, ICE detained 450 undocumented immigrants in the United States -- 101 of whom were in Los Angeles. The bill signed into law by Brown also includes assistance for students and measures to combat abuse of tenants. https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-becomes-first-sanctuary-state-undocumented-migrants-230001006.html CRUSADERMON WAS A DUDE?! that much pink in one place and what looks like a bustline in the armors molding I didn't think to question it! reportquote

SomeLikeItHoth 6 days ago#2 Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens. The GOAT Fam 2017! reportquote

Zeeak4444 6 days ago#3 SomeLikeItHoth posted... Majority of people are pissed at him for this. It's actually illegal so we'll see what happens. All of a sudden he cares about what's legal. Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X reportquote

CADE FOSTER 6 days ago#4 Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg reportquote

shockthemonkey 6 days ago#5 States’ rights or illegal immigration... Support local music. But not if it sucks. reportquote

DreadedWave 6 days ago#6 CADE FOSTER posted... Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities! https://i.imgur.com/ojmm9Ja.jpg reportquote

JE19426 6 days ago#7 SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? reportquote

Returning_CEmen 6 days ago#8 Oh great. http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg reportquote

scorpion41 6 days ago#9 lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. 🇲🇽 PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) reportquote

CADE FOSTER 6 days ago#10 scorpion41 posted... lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. 🇲🇽 your alt right is showing http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg reportquote

muchdran 6 days ago#11 Break the law and I'm good? reportquote

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FLUFFYGERM 6 days ago#13 DreadedWave posted... CADE FOSTER posted... Good keep you filthy government paws off our states rights Hey! State's rights are only for oppressing minorities! deporting illegal immigrants is oppressing minorities? reportquote

Tezlok 6 days ago#14 ick. another reason to be proud to not be a californian reportquote

scorpion41 6 days ago#15 CADE FOSTER posted... scorpion41 posted... lol California, soon to be called Little Mexico. 🇲🇽 your alt right is showing PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) reportquote

CADE FOSTER 6 days ago#16 alt right Conservatrolls usually dont http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg reportquote

Tezlok 6 days ago#17 CADE FOSTER posted... alt right Conservatrolls usually dont you think everyone who is conservative is a troll. your insane reportquote

scorpion41 6 days ago#18 CADE FOSTER posted... alt right Conservatrolls usually dont So everyone who disagrees with this is a troll? "He doesn't agree with something I like so he is an alt-right conservatroll!" You must pee sitting down too... PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) reportquote

SomeLikeItHoth 6 days ago#19 JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? Goes against the constitution. The GOAT Fam 2017! reportquote

JE19426 6 days ago#20 SomeLikeItHoth posted... Goes against the constitution. Which one? reportquote

M3sterybumper 4 days ago#21 More topics from this board... Knowingly exposing someone to HIV no longer felony in California.Callixtus810/8 12:19AM Knowingly exposing others to HIV will no longer be a felony in California.DippinSauce17010/8 1:20PM Semen contaminated flutes may have been given to children at California schoolpiUrsEitanizm1310/8 12:20AM California Student who stole a MAGA Hat is now facing a FELONY CHARGE!!mrduckbear2310/8 7:07PM What the fuck And he was never seen again. reportquote

Crazyman93 4 days ago#22 JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? It's illegal for States to make laws that supersede the federal government's. So legally, ICE can keep working in California and could actually arrest state officials who impede them if they wanted to. let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks reportquote

BiggLaw 4 days ago#23 California's always been my sanctuary anyway. Don't hate the player, hate the game. I only play the cards I was dealt. Pooh Da Stryker still lives! reportquote

J E S U S 4 days ago#24 Isn’t immigration federal jurisdiction? *imaginary* reportquote

Gamer99z 4 days ago#25 JE19426 posted... SomeLikeItHoth posted... It's actually illegal How so? I'm assuming he's referring to federal law. In the same way that technically weed is still illegal and technically the feds could raid every single shop in Cali and shut them down. Federal law ultimately gets top billing and is supposed to take precedent above state law. They just generally don't because it would be a shit storm if they stepped over states law like that. "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus reportquote

Crazyman93 4 days ago#26 J E S U S posted... Isn’t immigration federal jurisdiction? Yes. I imagine Trump is going to tell ICE not to give a fuck about California Law because they work for the US Government. And remember when it was such a shitshow that Arizona tried passing an immigration law? That's pretty much why it was such a shit show. let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

Newhopes 4 days ago#27 Just cut federal funding. reportquote

literal_garbage 4 days ago#28 Can someone tell me why we don't care about state's rights now? - literal garbage reportquote

Kineth  BLM sympathizer4 days ago#29 shockthemonkey posted... States’ rights or illegal immigration... Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want. If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. reportquote

thronedfire2 4 days ago#30 Are people dumb? ICE is still going to be able to enforce immigration laws, lol. This new thing just makes it so they have to use federal resources to do it instead of using state and city police I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 4 days ago#31 Kineth posted... shockthemonkey posted... States’ rights or illegal immigration... Right? It'll just expose the fact that "State's rights" is a cover story for what they really want. Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! reportquote

P4wn4g3 4 days ago#32 It would be great if all states did this. Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether reportquote

Arcanine2009 4 days ago#33 If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time. Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. reportquote

Arcanine2009 4 days ago#34 Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 4 days ago#35 the Golden State always finds golden opportunities. Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! reportquote

Gamer99z 4 days ago#36 Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding This, they actually give the feds more money than they take. "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus reportquote

Kineth  BLM sympathizer4 days ago#37 Arcanine2009 posted... If California gets a mass deporation.. I can tell you that U.S's economy will plummit and food will go up lot. You can hate illegals as much as you want, but they do contribute a lot to the economy while getting exploited at the same time. Yeah, it's amazing that people would rather have their lives get worse as long as it means someone else gets to suffer. If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. reportquote

DelianSK 4 days ago#38 Gamer99z posted... Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding This, they actually give the feds more money than they take. Probably pretty easy to do when you're using illegal, borderline slave labor. DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 4 days ago#39 slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico.  if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! reportquote

DelianSK 4 days ago#40 RickyTheBAWSE posted... slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico.  if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price.  They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable. DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 4 days ago#41 DelianSK posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... slave labor? lol, no. those people appreciate the opportunities, and obviously prefer opportunity in Cali as opposed to Mexico.  if that weren't the case, they'd exercise other options. How many options do illegal people have? Not many. They want a job, they take it for low salary because there are 10 other guys wanting to take it for the same price.  They aren't making minimum wage, they live a bunch of people to one house to save money and return some to home, and they are extremely expendable. they're surviving. your validation or approval isn't a requirement, tbh. what do you do for a living? Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! reportquote

DelianSK 4 days ago#42 No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required.  It doesn't change the fact they are here  Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation. DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. reportquote

cerealbox760 4 days ago#43 Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal. Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. reportquote

DelianSK 4 days ago#44 cerealbox760 posted... Texas California Florida and New York combined, account for 1/3 of the entire USA GDP. They all have a high amounts of illegals and yet happen to be the most prosperous states in the nation. You cant say illegals hold back the country because thats not economically true as long as we rid criminals. Politicians know this. The only reasonable argument you make against illegals is that it's illegal. You don't need any other argument. DawkinsNumber4 posted... I have no right to object to a public citizen in the US exercising their right to attend a court proceeding. reportquote

Asherlee10 4 days ago#45 J E S U S posted... Isn’t immigration federal jurisdiction? I believe so. As I understand it, Sanctuary Cities (or a State in this case) would simply not have the state agencies assist in deportation. "Opinions should be a result of a thought, not a substitute for it." reportquote

Cj_WlLL_VVlN 4 days ago#46 Now I'm a simple man from Kansas and all I love are America and God and guns but I did done voted for Trump because while I've never seen a Mexican before I think them bad hombres are stealing my jobs! Fuck you California. *goes back to working on my farm that's subsidized by the federal government because I'm a welfare leech living off California's dollar* Also all the people saying it's illegal how is that? The fed is still allowed to do their job. California just said they aren't going to use their resources to assist. The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. reportquote

Balrog0 4 days ago#47 good He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

Newhopes 4 days ago#48 Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding California is up to it's neck in debt and only pays $13 billion more than it receives. reportquote

RickyTheBAWSE 3 days ago#49 DelianSK posted... No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required.  It doesn't change the fact they are here  Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation. I was only asking because I was wondering what was actually being taken from you personally. so many seem like they've got a dog in this fight, but I'm not even sure what dog they have in this fight. many weigh in on things having nothing to do with them from a place that's typically of privilege. like the 25 year old who lives at home, but want to criticize others for how they provide their own roof, you know? Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! reportquote

Antifar 3 days ago#50 Related: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-undocumented-crime-reporting-20171009-story.html kin to all that throbs reportquote

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   Cj_WlLL_VVlN 3 days ago#51 RickyTheBAWSE posted... DelianSK posted... No. You're correct. My validation or approval isn't required. But the laws of the country I live in is required.  It doesn't change the fact they are here  Illegally and Doing jobs they are not legally allowed to do Also, what I do for a living has nothing to do with this conversation. I was only asking because I was wondering what was actually being taken from you personally. so many seem like they've got a dog in this fight, but I'm not even sure what dog they have in this fight. many weigh in on things having nothing to do with them from a place that's typically of privilege. like the 25 year old who lives at home, but want to criticize others for how they provide their own roof, you know? People that most frequently get mad at illegal immigrants old white guys that were certain they'd be rich and have mansions and when life didn't work out they decided to blame illegals despite having 0 effect on their life. The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. reportquote

   darkjedilink 3 days ago#52 literal_garbage posted... Can someone tell me why we don't care about state's rights now? States don't handle immigration, so this literally isn't a 'states rights' issue. Not to mention Arizona passed a law mandating local law enforcement assisst in immigration enforcement, and the left SCREAMED 'muh racizms!' Clearly, the left doesn't give a fuck about 'states rights' as it relates to immigration. 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen reportquote

   Balrog0 3 days ago#53 darkjedilink posted... States don't handle immigration, so this literally isn't a 'states rights' issue. it's not about immigration, it's about the use of the local police forces for the enforcement of federal laws darkjedilink posted... Not to mention Arizona passed a law mandating local law enforcement assisst in immigration enforcement, and the left SCREAMED 'muh racizms!' Clearly, the left doesn't give a fuck about 'states rights' as it relates to immigration. yeah, those are two separate things. I'm pretty sure the problem people had was profiling which is a violation of a totally different amendment He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. reportquote

   SageHarpuia 3 days ago#54 Harboring fugitives is not a state's right, and I laugh at the hypocrisy of anyone who believes so. My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. reportquote

   darkjedilink 3 days ago#55 Arcanine2009 posted... Newhopes posted... Just cut federal funding. California is one of the few states that actually make a surplus amount of funding Not with their record debt, they don't. 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen reportquote

   darkjedilink 3 days ago#56 Balrog0 posted... darkjedilink posted... States don't handle immigration, so this literally isn't a 'states rights' issue. it's not about immigration, it's about the use of the local police forces for the enforcement of federal laws darkjedilink posted... Not to mention Arizona passed a law mandating local law enforcement assisst in immigration enforcement, and the left SCREAMED 'muh racizms!' Clearly, the left doesn't give a fuck about 'states rights' as it relates to immigration. yeah, those are two separate things. I'm pretty sure the problem people had was profiling which is a violation of a totally different amendment 1. Local police are REQUIRED to enforce the law, be it local, state, or federal. If a local cop busts you for interstate racketeering, you don't just walk because it's a federal crime. 2. Being asked to provide proof of identity isn't profiling. 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen reportquote

   JE19426 3 days ago#57 Crazyman93 posted... It's illegal for States to make laws that supersede the federal government's. So legally, ICE can keep working in California and could actually arrest state officials who impede them if they wanted to. The didn't even read the article, did you? It literally points out the law only prevents local and state law enforcement from helping the Feds, and that they can't stop the Feds. darkjedilink posted... 1. Local police are REQUIRED to enforce the law, be it local, state, or federal. If a local cop busts you for interstate racketeering, you don't just walk because it's a federal crime. Wrong. Not only are local cops not required to enforce Federal laws, they are no more able to enforce Federal laws than any other random citizen. reportquote

   thronedfire2 3 days ago#58 darkjedilink posted... Balrog0 posted... darkjedilink posted... States don't handle immigration, so this literally isn't a 'states rights' issue. it's not about immigration, it's about the use of the local police forces for the enforcement of federal laws darkjedilink posted... Not to mention Arizona passed a law mandating local law enforcement assisst in immigration enforcement, and the left SCREAMED 'muh racizms!' Clearly, the left doesn't give a fuck about 'states rights' as it relates to immigration. yeah, those are two separate things. I'm pretty sure the problem people had was profiling which is a violation of a totally different amendment 1. Local police are REQUIRED to enforce the law, be it local, state, or federal. If a local cop busts you for interstate racketeering, you don't just walk because it's a federal crime. 2. Being asked to provide proof of identity isn't profiling. So should cops be arresting people in states where pot is legal because it's still against federal law? I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... reportquote

   D-Lo_BrownTown 3 days ago#59 I'm fine with this. Let them all go to California http://i.imgur.com/DKL8I5X.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/3XrMwRd.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/DJ9SEeJ.jpg reportquote

   JimmyJumper6 3 days ago#60 JFC When the wall get built might as well wall off Cali too reportquote

   DirkDiggles 3 days ago#61 JimmyJumper6 posted... JFC When the wall get built might as well wall off Cali too I wouldn't bather with a wall. Cali is about to sink into ocean anyways. https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif  https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif reportquote

   MetaMajik (Topic Creator)1 day ago#62 Bump CRUSADERMON WAS A DUDE?! that much pink in one place and what looks like a bustline in the armors molding I didn't think to question it! reportquote

   darkphoenix181 1 day ago#63 influx of even more people to cali incoming and as such people might start leaving it because just too many people sigless user is me or am I? reportquote

   ValedictorianDr 13 hours ago#64 DirkDiggles posted... JimmyJumper6 posted... JFC When the wall get built might as well wall off Cali too I wouldn't bather with a wall. Cali is about to sink into ocean anyways. That's true reportquote

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