July 20, 2017

citing research by straight, white men promotes a system of oppression

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Dwavenhobble 4 days ago#1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/07/16/feminist-scientists-say-citing-research-by-straight-white-men-promotes-a-system-of-oppression/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.01c33ae6eefa


Academics and scholars must be mindful about using research done by only straight, white men, according to two scientists who argued that it oppresses diverse voices and bolsters the status of already privileged and established white male scholars.


The paper in question from two "Feminist Scientist" was published in the journal Gender, Place and Culture.

They're calling for 

Editors and reviewers also can act as watchdogs of sort by scrutinizing a scholar's body of citation




Welcome to what seems to be the new level of yelling for equality. You now have to cite people from different groups equally or it's oppression according two Geographers.
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TonyKojima 4 days ago#2
Yeah and??
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Dwavenhobble posted...
according two Geographers.

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Dwavenhobble 4 days ago#5
TonyKojima posted...
Yeah and??

And generally when I've looked up research in the past I read the paper and don't pay attention to the names until I'm writing the citation (assuming I don't use auto citation software).
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TonyKojima posted...
Yeah and??
So are you for or against?
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Dwavenhobble 4 days ago#7
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Yeah and??
So are you for or against?

Assume he's for forcing people to cite equally. It's Tony after all
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Joshjosh022 4 days ago#8
People often forget that a lot of psychological research is done on college going populations between 18-22. It's obviously not appropriate to generalize those findings to, say, a middle aged person that has never received more than a high school education.

Also, the average racial demographics of college students narrows the application down even further.

This is true of all research, and if you actually care about having legitimate results that can apply to more groups, then yeah it's important to diversify your participants and citations of previous works. 

Citations and past research obviously serve to guide the current study, so resorting to an echo chamber of like minded individuals (which as a white male scholar, i can confirm we are the majority) isn't going to be productive and could continue trends of basing our psychological practice (or whatever field you're in) on how to best treat white, straight, male, college students.

Tldr - research built on the thoughts of a diverse group of people is great and the best option. However, I'm not sure how difficult it would actually be to enforce that, as they suggest.
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TonyKojima 3 days ago#9
Dwavenhobble posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
TonyKojima posted...
Yeah and??
So are you for or against?

Assume he's for forcing people to cite equally. It's Tony after all

I am for the study conducted. Citing such research fosters racism bigotry and oppression against non whites.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#10
TonyKojima posted...

I am for the study conducted. Citing such research fosters racism bigotry and oppression against non whites.

Just an idea but maybe these feminist geographers would get cited more and get more prestige and better career advancement if their research was into something relating to Geography rather than research on about Geography research and how it's sexist?
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#12
Orca posted...

How much research is involved in forced feeding pornography?

I don't know, as you seem to keep bringing it up and seem fascinated by it maybe you can elaborate.
How much research is involved ORCA the expert on it?
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Orca 3 days ago#13
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...

How much research is involved in forced feeding pornography?

I don't know, as you seem to keep bringing it up and seem fascinated by it maybe you can elaborate.
How much research is involved ORCA the expert on it?

It's hard to know since you don't cite your sources when you publish your forced feeding pornography.
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Joshjosh022 3 days ago#14
Dwavenhobble posted...
TonyKojima posted...

I am for the study conducted. Citing such research fosters racism bigotry and oppression against non whites.

Just an idea but maybe these feminist geographers would get cited more and get more prestige and better career advancement if their research was into something relating to Geography rather than research on about Geography research and how it's sexist?


Pretending like geography and race aren't related isn't helping you build a point, and as stated previously, aspects of diversity permeate all fields of research
Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#15
Orca posted...

It's hard to know since I don't cite your sources when I publish My forced feeding pornography.


Fixed that for you since you seem to be the expert on the genre. of Porn and you keep bringing it up so often / seem so fascinated with it.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#16
Joshjosh022 posted...

Pretending like geography and race aren't related isn't helping you build a point, and as stated previously, aspects of diversity permeate all fields of research

But the one field most interested in said subject and specialising in it tends to be either African studies or Gender Studies.

I mean I'm not sure how citation frequency correlation can really be cited in a meaningful way when talking about the diversity make up of other countries.
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Orca 3 days ago#17
Your edit doesn't even make sense. Why would I know your sources or publish your pornography for you? You're flustered.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#18
Orca posted...
Your edit doesn't even make sense. Why would I know your sources or publish your pornography for you? You're flustered.

Well you're the one bringing up fetish porn not me so I was just assuming you're some expert in it. I'm guessing with some prolific career writing it. 

I mean why else bring such a thing up unless you're butthurt and trying once again to throw more mud about.
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Orca 3 days ago#19
Dwavenhobble posted...
Well you're the one bringing up fetish porn

Actually you did by bringing up your research.
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NeoLuddism 3 days ago#20
I doubt many people will ever take this seriously.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#21
Orca posted...

Actually you did by bringing up your research.


Yes research into Palladium mediated metasynthesis of organic compounds to reduce the cost of them rather than the costly method of extracting and purifying naturally occurring forms of said compounds.
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Charliesix 3 days ago#23
ugh, another stupid act of some random liberals that bitter white right-wing men will repeatedly cite as justification for some victim complex
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Orca 3 days ago#24
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...

Actually you did by bringing up your research.


Yes research into Palladium mediated metasynthesis of organic compounds to reduce the cost of them rather than the costly method of extracting and purifying naturally occurring forms of said compounds.

You can call it whatever you want, we've seen the writing.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#25
Orca posted...
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...

Actually you did by bringing up your research.


Yes research into Palladium mediated metasynthesis of organic compounds to reduce the cost of them rather than the costly method of extracting and purifying naturally occurring forms of said compounds.

You can call it whatever you want, we've seen the writing.

Well yes it was published in a leading Organic Chemistry Journal once my dissertation adviser had written it up and added to said research as it was the end result of something like 25 years of research he'd been doing.
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rabakill 3 days ago#26
They should try using the empiric method instead. It's done wonders for this crazy new invention called science.
Orca 3 days ago#27
Dwavenhobble posted...
Well yes it was published in a leading Organic Chemistry Journal

You realise this can be searched, right?
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#28
Orca posted...

You realise this can be searched, right?

Oh yes.
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Orca 3 days ago#29
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...

You realise this can be searched, right?

Oh yes.

So then you know that I know you're a liar, right? And that that wouldn't stop you?
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#30
Orca posted...

So then you know that I know you're a liar, right? And that that wouldn't stop you?

Or you can accept the reality that you're accusing me of being a liar to try and hide the fact you know you're wrong.

I mean here's a section from the paper for you.

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Dyinglegacy 3 days ago#31
Hmm. Weird thought process.

Any research I've ever done, I looked at the information in the source material, without giving much thought about who wrote it. As long as they qualified, it didn't matter to me

i read the facts, and if the facts were pertinent to my research, then it didn't matter to me if the source creator was a blue-green non-gender alien from planet Herondor, in the Nelorax sector.

Fuckin' humans, man.

Weird ass hangups.
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Orca 3 days ago#32
Dwavenhobble posted...
Or you can accept the reality that you're accusing me of being a liar

Yeah, that's why you don't turn up on their website.
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KendoRe2 3 days ago#33
I thought color wasnt supposed to matter to liberals but it seems it's the only thing that does matter most of the time.
Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#34
Orca posted...

Yeah, that's why you don't turn up on their website.


and Whose website would that be?
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Orca 3 days ago#35
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...

Yeah, that's why you don't turn up on their website.


and Whose website would that be?

Organic Chemistry Journal.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#36
Orca posted...

Organic Chemistry Journal.

Which one?

Please don't tell me you just googled "Organic Chemistry Journal" picked the top result and are claiming victory

What I said

Dwavenhobble posted...

Well yes it was published in a leading Organic Chemistry Journal once my dissertation adviser had written it up and added to said research as it was the end result of something like 25 years of research he'd been doing.



The A is kind of important lol. Seems your reading comprehension has failed again.
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lukabrosci 3 days ago#37
Straight white men once refused to give a woman her due recognition for discovering the structure of DNA. 

They want all the glory for themselves.
Orca 3 days ago#38
I used a journal search, googled the key words and a journal search of 1H-Pyrazole-N,N%u2032-di-Boc-1-carboxamidineds (as well as a search of your name). I did not limit myself to "one" journal.

Of course, if you had actually done it, you wouldn't be beating around the bush anyway.
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I think you need counseling, TC. And I'm saying that sincerely, not as some weak insult. I really do think you could benefit from seeing a therapist.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#40
Orca posted...
I used a journal search, googled the key words and a journal search of 1H-Pyrazole-N,N%u2032-di-Boc-1-carboxamidineds (as well as a search of your name). I did not limit myself to "one" journal.

Of course, if you had actually done it, you wouldn't be beating around the bush anyway.


Oh I'm beating round the bush because it's fun to watch you struggle also I have no desire to expose other researchers to your blend of crazy stalker like behaviour.

Word of advice. The reason you're failing to find it is the thing you're searching has a more common chemical name that the one you've pulled out from I'm guessing an online chemical naming program of some kind.

Oh and Second Word of Advice, it has my real name on it, not the one you think is my real name lol
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#41
Villain_S_Fiend posted...
I think you need counseling, TC. And I'm saying that sincerely, not as some weak insult. I really do think you could benefit from seeing a therapist.

Well Orca has been a bit of an annoyance but not quite that bad.
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Orca 3 days ago#42
Dwavenhobble posted...
Orca posted...
I used a journal search, googled the key words and a journal search of 1H-Pyrazole-N,N%u2032-di-Boc-1-carboxamidineds (as well as a search of your name). I did not limit myself to "one" journal.

Of course, if you had actually done it, you wouldn't be beating around the bush anyway.


Oh I'm beating round the bush because it's fun to watch you struggle also I have no desire to expose other researchers to your blend of crazy stalker like behaviour.

Word of advice. The reason you're failing to find it is the thing you're searching has a more common chemical name that the one you've pulled out from I'm guessing an online chemical naming program of some kind.

Oh and Second Word of Advice, it has my real name on it, not the one you think is my real name lol

I know both of these things (both your real name and I searched under all the alternate chemical names), that's how I know you're lying.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#43
Orca posted...

I know both of these things, that's how I know you're lying.

Except you don't. You think you do but you don't lol.

I mean it's pretty clear considering I can point out the paper has an authors copy water mark on it because I have a copy of it 

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Oh and the intro page on about how it's a copy provided to the Author and their associates 

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Orca 3 days ago#44
Or, you know, you just stole something from the internet and passed it off as your own.
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Orca 3 days ago#45
And I just realised now why you're doing it; to distract from your documented history of publishing eating fetish pornography. You almost distracted me.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#46
Orca posted...
Or, you know, you just stole something from the internet and passed it off as your own.

So let me get this straight.

You think I stole something from the internet and went to all the trouble of locating and finding an Authors copy just to get one over on your Orca?

Wow you have one hell of an Ego.

You're not worth that kind of effort lol
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Orca 3 days ago#47
Dwavenhobble posted...
You think I stole something from the internet and went to all the trouble of locating and finding an Authors copy

You don't need to go to any trouble if you stole it from Elsevier. And it's only 10 seconds more trouble to do it yourself in photoshop.
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#48
Orca posted...
Dwavenhobble posted...
You think I stole something from the internet and went to all the trouble of locating and finding an Authors copy

You don't need to go to any trouble if you stole it from Elsevier. And it's only 10 seconds more trouble to do it yourself in photoshop.

still more effort than you're worth
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Orca 3 days ago#49
Ah yes, good evidence. Wouldn't it be easier to just leave the topic and not come back?

(Or not make easily disprovable lies? Or just not lie?)
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Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#50
Orca posted...
Ah yes, good evidence. Wouldn't it be easier to just leave the topic and not come back?

(Or not make easily disprovable lies? Or just not lie?)


1) My topic
2) No because why should I leave?

I mean you're becoming this boards Alex Jones. Making up wild conspiracy theories about how I stole research from the internet and photo shopped it all to fool you 

Also you said you knew what the chemical was called as a common name. What do you think it is ORCA, if you guess right I'll even say you got the right name lol
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    Orca 3 days ago#51
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Orca posted...
    Ah yes, good evidence. Wouldn't it be easier to just leave the topic and not come back?

    (Or not make easily disprovable lies? Or just not lie?)


    1) My topic
    2) No because why should I leave?

    I mean you're becoming this boards Alex Jones. Making up wild conspiracy theories about how I stole research from the internet and photo shopped it all to fool you 

    Also you said you knew what the chemical was called as a common name. What do you think it is ORCA, if you guess right I'll even say you got the right name lol

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/047084289X.rn00298/abstract

    Still no evidence from you, shocking.
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    this pattern of posting topics like this is straight up embarrassing 


    you guys are fucking terrified of women

    look at the first page of the board....wow
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    Orca 3 days ago#53
    "It's so much effort to steal/fake an author's copy of a paper"

    https://www.griffith.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/188543/A-meta-analysis-of-the-effects-of-early-developmental-prevention.pdf

    oh wait...

    Remember when you tried to play off that screenshot of your own website as being faked? And now you're trying to play dumb? You can't even be logically consistent.
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    Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#54
    Orca posted...

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/047084289X.rn00298/abstract

    Still no evidence from you, shocking.


    Because I'm going to dox myself and other researchers when you've shown you propensity to vindictive petty actions against me?

    Oh and that's the technical name you've found. Not the common name try again ORCA.


    axelfooley2k5 posted...
    this pattern of posting topics like this is straight up embarrassing 


    you guys are fucking terrified of women

    look at the first page of the board....wow


    I seem to remember before pointing out how I'd happily vote Angela Eagle in as PM of the UK. I dunno where you're getting scared of women from lol. 



    Orca posted...
    "It's so much effort to steal/fake an author's copy of a paper"

    https://www.griffith.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/188543/A-meta-analysis-of-the-effects-of-early-developmental-prevention.pdf

    oh wait...

    Remember when you tried to play off that screenshot of your own website as being faked? And now you're trying to play dumb? You can't even be logically consistent.


    Screenshot of my own website?

    ORCA....... I don't own a website of my own............. So this never happened unless you mean my account on a website......... otherwise I'm actually worried you've become delusional lol
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    Orca 3 days ago#55
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Oh and that's the technical name you've found


    Are you seriously trying to argue you wrote a scientific paper and didn't use the technical name?

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    ORCA....... I don't own a website of my own.............

    You have a number of blogspots, a tumblr and a deviant art.

    Still no evidence besides something that was clearly stolen/faked. Shocking.
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    BilalPowell 3 days ago#56
    Does this mean my college term papers are all F's now for citing white straight males?
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    Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#57
    Orca posted...

    Are you seriously trying to argue you wrote a scientific paper and didn't use the technical name?

    Because it can go by and be referred to another name because oddly enough in Chemistry big long IUPAC naming convention names aren't the only ones used 

    Orca posted...

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    ORCA....... I don't own a website of my own.............

    You have a number of blogspots, a tumblr and a deviant art.

    Still no evidence besides something that was clearly stolen/faked. Shocking.

    Still no evidence from you that it is stolen as you've failed to find a paper with that Scheme on it
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    Orca 3 days ago#59
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Because it can go by and be referred to another name because oddly enough in Chemistry big long IUPAC naming convention names aren't the only ones used

    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper. 

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Still no evidence from you that it is stolen as you've failed to find a paper with that Scheme on it

    The onus is not on me to find where you stole it from, the onus is on you to prove you didn't steal (or fake) what is incredibly easy to steal (or fake) when you've provided zero evidence that it's your paper. Especially when you don't turn up in any journals and we know the journal publisher you stole it from. I mean you've already tried to claim that you used non-scientific names in your scientific paper, so clearly you're lying, but your laziness at attempting to cover up your lie is particularly gross.
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    MajinGoo 3 days ago#60
    Good. They need to be oppressed.
    But somehow white privilege exists
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    Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#62
    Orca posted...

    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper. 


    The IUPAC name isn't the only Scientific name.


    Orca posted...


    The onus is not on me to find where you stole it from, the onus is on you to prove you didn't steal (or fake) what is incredibly easy to steal (or fake) when you've provided zero evidence that it's your paper. Especially when you don't turn up in any journals and we know the journal publisher you stole it from. I mean you've already tried to claim that you used non-scientific names in your scientific paper, so clearly you're lying, but your laziness at attempting to cover up your lie is particularly gross.


    You're the one presenting the incredible claim that I faked all of this for some unknown reason.

    The onus is on you to prove that claim not me to disprove it.

    You mean other than having a authors copy? Which if I didn't own a copy surely you'd have no trouble finding it if it was online right?

    I mean you're becoming the Alex Jones of this board making up such elaborate conspiracy theories about me. You know to hide the fact you just can't find a simple paper online.
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    Dyinglegacy 3 days ago#63
    Dwavenhobble and Orca setting in a tree...

    Seriously, you guys should just get a room already. Just come out and say that you want some of that booty. Don't be shy, now.
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    Orca 3 days ago#64
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    You're the one presenting the incredible claim that I faked all of this for some unknown reason.

    Unknown? You were caught out lying. You have a history of doing this. You're trying to distract from your documented history of publishing forced feeding pornography. It's completely known why you did it.

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Which if I didn't own a copy surely you'd have no trouble finding it if it was online right?

    I would need to know the name of the paper to find it online, so this is a false claim. What I can find is multiple author's copies from Elsevier easily available, showing that just cutting an edited screenshot is not evidence of anything.
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    Dyinglegacy 3 days ago#65
    Yep. They are gonna be bumpin' uglies tonight.
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    Dyinglegacy posted...
    Dwavenhobble and Orca setting in a tree...

    Seriously, you guys should just get a room already. Just come out and say that you want some of that booty. Don't be shy, now.

    Same account.
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    Orca 3 days ago#67
    Dyinglegacy posted...
    Yep. They are gonna be bumpin' uglies tonight.

    If you've read his erotic writing, you'd know why this would be an issue.
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    Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#68
    Orca posted...

    Unknown? You were caught out lying. You have a history of doing this. You're trying to distract from your documented history of publishing forced feeding pornography. It's completely known why you did it.


    No you're accusing me of it with no proof just because you're failing to find a paper I'm listed as an author on.

    You have a documented history and record of multiple accounts being banned for trying to dox me so you'll excuse me if I refuse to link you directly to a paper with information and contact information present you know consider your documented history of acting like a very creepy obsessive stalker.

    Orca posted...

    I would need to know the name of the paper to find it online, so this is a false claim. What I can find is multiple author's copies from Elsevier easily available, showing that just cutting an edited screenshot is not evidence of anything.


    You have a documented history and record of multiple accounts being banned for trying to dox me so you'll excuse me if I refuse to link you directly to a paper with information and contact information present you know consider your documented history of acting like a very creepy obsessive stalker.

    It's simple ORCA either you find the paper in question I used online and prove to the world that I totally faked it by proving I could have faked it. Or you accept that I'm a listed author on an academic paper and not only have you failed to locate it but you've lied here about it because your ego won't let you accept the fact you might be incompetent at locating papers.


    Dyinglegacy posted...
    Dwavenhobble and Orca setting in a tree...

    Seriously, you guys should just get a room already. Just come out and say that you want some of that booty. Don't be shy, now.


    Not that simple unfortunately ORCA just wants me gone and has been previously banned under two different accounts here trying to drive me off the forum.

    Oh and once banned he then followed me to Reddit and tried to cause trouble there but because he's an idiot and didn't understand how reddit works he just kept making account after account rather than trying to get banked up Karma on one.


    CherryTsundere posted...
    Dyinglegacy posted...
    Dwavenhobble and Orca setting in a tree...

    Seriously, you guys should just get a room already. Just come out and say that you want some of that booty. Don't be shy, now.

    Same account.

    Nah ORCAs other account is TrampsLikeUS (at least that's all he'll officially admit to, he's suspected of others)
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    KyerWiz 3 days ago#69
    The researchers themselves only matter for their credibility (positive or negative) gained through their previous works.

    The only thing that's really important is the methodology.
    Orca posted...
    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper.

    Dot dot freaking dot.

    Orca, you are not qualified to be in this conversation.

    Just one example:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2199288/
    Exposure of the U.S. Population to Bisphenol A and 4-tertiary-Octylphenol: 2003–2004

    But the IUPAC name for Bisphenol A is 4,4'-(propane-2,2-diyl)diphenol.
    He who laughs last, thinks fastest.
    C7D 3 days ago#71
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Orca posted...
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Orca posted...

    Actually you did by bringing up your research.


    Yes research into Palladium mediated metasynthesis of organic compounds to reduce the cost of them rather than the costly method of extracting and purifying naturally occurring forms of said compounds.

    You can call it whatever you want, we've seen the writing.

    Well yes it was published in a leading Organic Chemistry Journal once my dissertation adviser had written it up and added to said research as it was the end result of something like 25 years of research he'd been doing.


    Your advisor wrote your journal articles? Sad... I wrote all my own and got a few minor edits from my dissertation advisor. Organic chemistry, however was probably my least favorite subject. Your patience must exceed my own. I wrote my dissertation on Smart Nanocomposites which separate different materials depending upon the externally applied stimuli, I.E. heat, solution pH, or applied magnetic field.
    TonyKojima posted...
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    KamenRiderBlade posted...
    TonyKojima posted...
    Yeah and??
    So are you for or against?

    Assume he's for forcing people to cite equally. It's Tony after all

    I am for the study conducted. Citing such research fosters racism bigotry and oppression against non whites.

    Non white people, racist.
    The party's always better with Gordon FreeGin around.
    Dwavenhobble 3 days ago#73
    C7D posted...


    Your advisor wrote your journal articles? Sad... I wrote all my own and got a few minor edits from my dissertation advisor. Organic chemistry, however was probably my least favorite subject. Your patience must exceed my own. I wrote my dissertation on Smart Nanocomposites which separate different materials depending upon the externally applied stimuli, I.E. heat, solution pH, or applied magnetic field.


    It was 25 years of his research coming to a conclusion that by some freak chance I was the student to crack it. The paper itself was my solution + previous research done over 25 years + work from 5 other teams round the globe + additional input from a computational chemistry professor on modelling (which ended up as a few lines I think in the final cut)
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    andromedadude3 posted...
    What if it's cancer research or something else noble and in the service of humanity? Do their skin color and gender orientation really matter then?

    According to liberals, yes. Oppression Olympics are more important than cancer, climate change, AIDS, and space exploration combined.
    'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
    C7D 3 days ago#75
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    C7D posted...


    Your advisor wrote your journal articles? Sad... I wrote all my own and got a few minor edits from my dissertation advisor. Organic chemistry, however was probably my least favorite subject. Your patience must exceed my own. I wrote my dissertation on Smart Nanocomposites which separate different materials depending upon the externally applied stimuli, I.E. heat, solution pH, or applied magnetic field.


    It was 25 years of his research coming to a conclusion that by some freak chance I was the student to crack it. The paper itself was my solution + previous research done over 25 years + work from 5 other teams round the globe + additional input from a computational chemistry professor on modelling (which ended up as a few lines I think in the final cut)


    That sounds like fun. Being the first to discover something is the best feeling in the world to me. Great job solving a 25 year old problem. That's at least 4-7 generations of PhD students.
    Jabraham 3 days ago#76
    How many (claimed) chemists do we have on this forum?
    I ain't trippin cause the truth is really you don't know me.
    IMadepooh4U 2 days ago#77
    Further evidence of the Leftist rot in academia.
    The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. It is because I alone, of all the Greeks, know that I know nothing- Socrates
    Orca 2 days ago#78
    willythemailboy posted...
    Orca posted...
    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper.

    Dot dot freaking dot.

    Orca, you are not qualified to be in this conversation.

    Just one example:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2199288/
    Exposure of the U.S. Population to Bisphenol A and 4-tertiary-Octylphenol: 2003–2004

    But the IUPAC name for Bisphenol A is 4,4'-(propane-2,2-diyl)diphenol.


    Maybe you should see the link I posted first?
    A satirical take on Australian and World events;
    http://theunaustralian.net/
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#79
    Jabraham posted...
    How many (claimed) chemists do we have on this forum?

    Well I'm environmental / Organic.

    C7D is I'm guessing Inorganic 

    Orca posted...
    willythemailboy posted...
    Orca posted...
    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper.

    Dot dot freaking dot.

    Orca, you are not qualified to be in this conversation.

    Just one example:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2199288/
    Exposure of the U.S. Population to Bisphenol A and 4-tertiary-Octylphenol: 2003–2004

    But the IUPAC name for Bisphenol A is 4,4'-(propane-2,2-diyl)diphenol.


    Maybe you should see the link I posted first?


    Except it's mostly refereed to in the paper and the non IUPAC name other than 1 instance.
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca posted...
    willythemailboy posted...
    Orca posted...
    But you need to use the scientific name when writing a scientific paper.

    Dot dot freaking dot.

    Orca, you are not qualified to be in this conversation.

    Just one example:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2199288/
    Exposure of the U.S. Population to Bisphenol A and 4-tertiary-Octylphenol: 2003–2004

    But the IUPAC name for Bisphenol A is 4,4'-(propane-2,2-diyl)diphenol.


    Maybe you should see the link I posted first?

    What part of "not qualified to be in this conversation" did you not understand?
    He who laughs last, thinks fastest.
    #81
    (message deleted)
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Jabraham posted...
    How many (claimed) chemists do we have on this forum?

    Well I'm environmental / Organic.

    C7D is I'm guessing Inorganic

    I guess you'd technically call me analytic, but I never even got a masters and don't currently work in the field at all. I realized early on that research was not my thing but I did a lot of prep, support, and QA for people who did a lot of it.
    He who laughs last, thinks fastest.
    Dyinglegacy 2 days ago#83
    Dayum. You guys are still at it?

    Y'all making a porno, or something?

    Dat stamina.
    PSN: KillingLegacy Gamertag: Killing Legacy
    Dyinglegacy posted...
    Dayum. You guys are still at it?

    Y'all making a porno, or something?

    Dat stamina.

    Basically we're selling rope to Orca to get his account suspended for harassment again.
    He who laughs last, thinks fastest.
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#85
    Orca posted...

    You having no proof is pointing out you don't have proof.

    For someone bragging about how he sources, you sure have been unable to source your evidence. You'd be laughed out of any science journal if you attempted this.

    If your concern is people will know who you are, let me free you from this. Due to your using the same username everywhere and your activity on forced feeding/furry websites, anyone with even rudimentary Google skills can find out who you are.


    And let me enlighten you ORCA. You've presented less proof those accounts are anything by trolls like you I've pissed off over the years than I've shown as to having done academic writings.

    I can source my evidence, I choose not to present it to you given your past history. As the moment I do present it (assuming you don't open by harassing other researchers) will be to claim it is not me and demand I prove that the person named in the paper and an author is me. Which considering your love of trying to dox me I'd rather not do.

    Orca posted...


    Neither of those things are true. I know what's going on, you've hit a wall with the paper distraction so now you're coming up with some made up conspiracy to distract from your forced feeding pornography writing.

    Well I'm not biting. I'm going to bring this back to before you distracted off the topic;


    Neither of them are true?

    So why is your Alt account in Purgatory?
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/community/TrampsLikeUs

    And yes you've admitted before TrampsLikeUs is your alt.

    So seems you habitual lying is catching up with you here.

    You've hit a wall and are trying to sling mud now. You've failed again and again in this very thread so very visibly and now all you have left is mud slinging.

    How sad.
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#86
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    are anything by trolls like you I've pissed off over the years than I've shown as to having done academic writings.

    I can post all the evidence linking it to you if you want.

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    So why is your Alt account in Purgatory?

    So not banned. So why are you lying?
    A satirical take on Australian and World events;
    http://theunaustralian.net/
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#87
    Orca posted...
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    are anything by trolls like you I've pissed off over the years than I've shown as to having done academic writings.

    I can post all the evidence linking it to you if you want.


    I can post all the evidence that you're in reality the queen of Sheba? It won't make it true though now will it.

    You are the Alex Jones of this board with so many conspiracy theories of how I'm somehow doing elaborate plans to fool you. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

    Orca posted...

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    So why is your Alt account in Purgatory?

    So not banned. So why are you lying?

    Not permabanned but suspended / Temporariyl banned
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#88
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    I can post all the evidence that you're in reality the queen of Sheba?

    Go ahead. I have no doubt in my ability to prove it fraudulent.

    It's ironic that in a topic where you advocate for the unimpeachability of evidence you're arguing that evidence is meaningless.

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Not permabanned but suspended / Temporariyl banned

    So you were lying.

    Cool.
    A satirical take on Australian and World events;
    http://theunaustralian.net/
    This anti-'white straight male' shit is getting fucking tiresome. No surprise 'Terrorist' TonyKojima supports it, though.
    Don't look at me like that, you cretin.
    Dark, Ambient, Awesome. https://cryochamber.bandcamp.com/
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#90
    Orca posted...

    Go ahead. I have no doubt in my ability to prove it fraudulent.

    It's ironic that in a topic where you advocate for the unimpeachability of evidence you're arguing that evidence is meaningless.


    Wow even that joke flew over your head it seems lol

    Orca posted...

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Not permabanned but suspended / Temporariyl banned

    So you were lying.

    Cool.


    So you're arguing semantics that you alt totally isn't banned in any way you just can't post at all from it and haven't been able to for a while now.

    A ban by any other name ORCA
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#91
    "Ha, you didn't get that joke where I argued myself into a corner and now I'm squirming, you idiot!"

    So you're arguing semantics


    You're the one arguing semantics. You lied, got caught in a lie, then tried to argue you were using a non-existant definition of the word.
    rabakill 2 days ago#92
    Muscle Buster posted...
    This anti-'white straight male' shit is getting fucking tiresome. No surprise 'Terrorist' TonyKojima supports it, though.

    Tony is an insane person. He's a caricature of the left it's kind of weird how cartoonishly he behaves. There's all kinds on the left and he's like an amalgam of all the worst parts. He also can't read very well so that doesn't help.
    (edited 2 days ago)
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#93
    Orca posted...
    "Ha, you didn't get that joke where I argued myself into a corner and now I'm squirming, you idiot!"

    Um no I was making a joke about how claims and evidence as poor as yours does not conclusive proof make.

    Alex Jones can present evidence, doesn't mean the evidence is in any way good lol

    Orca posted...

    So you're arguing semantics


    You're the one arguing semantics. You lied, got caught in a lie, then tried to argue you were using a non-existant definition of the word.


    Um your Alt is still temporarily banned, you're just arguing semantics as to "It's not a temporary ban it's a suspension".

    You've been shown to lie and lie and lie ORCA.I mean next you'll be telling people you're totally not acting like a weird creepy stalker.
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#94
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Um no I was making a joke about how claims and evidence as poor as yours does not conclusive proof make.

    I have actual evidence, archived posts e.t.c. I can post it here for you if you want. I mean, if it's nonsense evidence like you're claiming, what do you have to lose?

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Um your Alt is still temporarily banned

    So it's not banned and you were lying.
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#95
    Orca posted...

    I have actual evidence, archived posts e.t.c. I can post it here for you if you want. I mean, if it's nonsense evidence like you're claiming, what do you have to lose?


    I have nothing to lose. 

    I mean in fact it would show what a weird creepy stalker like person you are. It won't however show that those accounts you claim belong to me are mine.

    It it will show is how you love to bring up irrelevant nonsense to try and sling mud about 

    Orca posted...

    So it's not banned and you were lying.


    It's still banned just not permanently .
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#96
    rabakill posted...

    Tony is an insane person. He's a caricature of the left it's kind of weird how cartoonishly he behaves. There's all kinds on the left and he's like an amalgam of all the worst parts. He also can't read very well so that doesn't help.

    It's been very much suggested that Tony is actually a republican pretending to be someone on the left. The issues is each day he seems less and less extreme compared to some on the left......... It's worrying.
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#97
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    It's still banned just not permanently .

    So it's not banned and you were lying.

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    I have nothing to lose. 

    I mean in fact it would show what a weird creepy stalker like person you are. It won't however show that those accounts you claim belong to me are mine.

    It it will show is how you love to bring up irrelevant nonsense to try and sling mud about

    So you're giving me permission to post it?
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#98
    Orca posted...

    So it's not banned and you were lying.


    If it's not banned post from it in this very thread now.

    Orca posted...


    So you're giving me permission to post it?


    Why would I give you permission to shit up yet another thread with your inane nonsense?
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    Orca 2 days ago#99
    Dwavenhobble posted...
    If it's not banned post from it in this very thread now.

    False dichotomy.

    Dwavenhobble posted...
    Why would I give you permission to shit up yet another thread with your inane nonsense?

    So you know I'm right and scared of the evidence being posted.
    Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#100
    Orca posted...

    False dichotomy.

    So you can't post from it because it's banned from posting. lol lol lol

    Orca posted...

    So you know I'm right and scared of the evidence being posted.

    No I just don't like watching people continuously make public fools of themselves.
    I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
    1. Boards
    2. Politics 
    3. citing research by straight, white men promotes a system of oppression
      1. Boards
      2. Politics
      3. citing research by straight, white men promotes a system of oppression
      Orca 2 days ago#101
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      So you can't post from it because it's banned from posting

      By this logic, obviously this account wasn't banned because I'm posting from it.

      Dwavenhobble posted...
      No I just don't like watching people continuously make public fools of themselves.

      Well, thanks for showing you know my evidence is accurate.
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#102
      Orca posted...

      By this logic, obviously this account wasn't banned because I'm posting from it.


      The ban time ran out 

      Orca posted...

      Well, thanks for showing you know my evidence is accurate.


      Confirmation bias is something you can't help but proudly show seemingly.
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      Orca 2 days ago#103
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      The ban time ran out

      "ban time"

      Dwavenhobble posted...
      Confirmation bias is something you can't help but proudly show seemingly.

      "I don't want you to post that totally fake evidence because it would make you look like an idiot" - no person who knew the evidence was fake ever.
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#104
      Orca posted...

      "ban time"


      Because I never said permanent ban lol

      Orca posted...

      "I don't want you to post that totally fake evidence because it would make you look like an idiot" - no person who knew the evidence was fake ever.


      No I just know I and I'm sure others have had enough of your Alex Jones esc nonsense thread after thread when you have 0 argument left.

      You did it over 25+ threads and got yourself banned for it. I mean are we really going to have a repeat of that nonsense?
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      Orca 2 days ago#105
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      Because I never said permanent ban

      Ah yes, those "permanent ban" qualifications one has to apply when talking about forum bannings.

      You're so full of shit.

      Dwavenhobble posted...
      You did it over 25+ threads and got yourself banned for it.

      Not banned, but you know that. My *suspension* was not because of you, but for pointing out mod racism/sexism with their double standard on how they treat muslims vs white men. So that's a double lie.

      Also you can't get a post deleted for revealing personal information if it's not revealing it's you, so thanks for admitting it was you.
      (edited 2 days ago)
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#106
      Orca posted...

      Ah yes, those "permanent ban" qualifications one has to apply when talking about forum bannings.

      You're so full of shit.


      Turn off the projector

      Orca posted...

      Not banned, but you know that. My *suspension* was not because of you, but for pointing out mod racism/sexism with their double standard on how they treat muslims vs white men. So that's a double lie.

      Also you can't get a post deleted for revealing personal information if it's not revealing it's you, so thanks for admitting it was you.


      Lol, oh I'm sure the mods will love you carrying that on then.

      Oh ORCA, You can be banned for attempted doxing it would seem. Just because you didn't realise you got faked doesn't mean your intent wasn't clear.
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      Orca 2 days ago#107
      Not banned. Not for doxing. Not for attempted doxing (which is not a thing).

      Can you stop lying now?
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#108
      Orca posted...
      Not banned. Not for doxing. Not for attempted doxing (which is not a thing).

      Can you stop lying now?

      Is that all you have, accusing me of lying?

      Man you have a predicable repertoire argument method wise lol.
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      Amatsukaze 2 days ago#109
      Jabraham 2 days ago#110
      willythemailboy posted...
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      Jabraham posted...
      How many (claimed) chemists do we have on this forum?

      Well I'm environmental / Organic.

      C7D is I'm guessing Inorganic

      I guess you'd technically call me analytic, but I never even got a masters and don't currently work in the field at all. I realized early on that research was not my thing but I did a lot of prep, support, and QA for people who did a lot of it.

      I'm an inorganic chemist, and I feel like OMGWTFPIE has claimed to be a chemist. I'm pretty sure there was a spectroscopist also, although I haven't seen him in a while. Seems like a surprisingly high proportion of the ~200 people that frequent this board.
      I ain't trippin cause the truth is really you don't know me.
      So foot notes are often just tools of the evil white supremacist patriarchy?!
      "So you never wanted a regular type life?"
      "What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"
      Orca 2 days ago#112
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      Is that all you have, accusing me of lying?

      I mean, you lied pretty shamelessly. It's not like you also have an argument on top of that and I'm focusing on a small part of a bigger issue.
      C7D 2 days ago#113
      Jabraham posted...
      willythemailboy posted...
      Dwavenhobble posted...
      Jabraham posted...
      How many (claimed) chemists do we have on this forum?

      Well I'm environmental / Organic.

      C7D is I'm guessing Inorganic

      I guess you'd technically call me analytic, but I never even got a masters and don't currently work in the field at all. I realized early on that research was not my thing but I did a lot of prep, support, and QA for people who did a lot of it.

      I'm an inorganic chemist, and I feel like OMGWTFPIE has claimed to be a chemist. I'm pretty sure there was a spectroscopist also, although I haven't seen him in a while. Seems like a surprisingly high proportion of the ~200 people that frequent this board.


      I guess you would call what I do inorganic chemistry. However, my profession and my degrees are in chemical engineering.
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#114
      TheHonorableOne posted...
      So foot notes are often just tools of the evil white supremacist patriarchy?!


      Probably lol
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      man this crazy pattern of straight white men being oppressed is totally out of control!


      god help us
      Free thinkers are dangerous
      (edited 2 days ago)
      Newhopes 2 days ago#116
      This is the sort of thing you have to expect from the racist fools on the left.
      Ivashanko 2 days ago#117
      I can see some value in this for sociologists, but for most other forms of science this needs to be strongly opposed and this line of thinking destroyed
      Dwavenhobble 2 days ago#118
      axelfooley2k5 posted...
      man this crazy pattern of straight white men being oppressed is totally out of control!


      god help us

      You mean by suggesting their research value is based on their skin colour / Gender and Sexual orientation.

      I mean this is output by someone claiming to be a Scientist (in geography) whose whole research career has been seemingly focused on gender representation not in nations but in the subject itself. I can't imagine much Geography research finding use for that as a citation. I mean short of pieces like "A feminist approach to Glaciology" there's very little application for introspective research in subjects especially when Gender Studies tends to be the subject that focuses on looking at other subjects and things and yelling how it needs better gender representation (with at best 98% female classes in it's own subject but that's diversity not a problem at all lol)
      I'm on youtube just like everyone else but still
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Dwavenhobble
      1. Boards
      2. Politics 
      3. citing research by straight, white men promotes a system of oppression

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