Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
That's utter bulls***. I see this mentality all the time on the SJW blogosphere. You GTFO.
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refugee love block me1 day ago#52
Wtf is the "SJW blogosphere" lmao
Do you like the way the water tastes?
Like gunfire
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Conflict posted...
Wtf is the "SJW blogosphere" lmao
Since you ask, you clearly don't know what the f*** you're talking about, so STFU.
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Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/03/transgender-activist-straight-men-should-work-through-non-attraction-to-transgender-women/
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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Choco posted...
because your gender is determined by your brain whereas race is a social construct
Romulox28 posted...
Choco posted...
because your gender is determined by your brain whereas race is a social construct
lol what
race IS a social construct. biologically we're all the same. race only comes into play because we have broken people down into categories like where they were born, their religion and other superficial aspects.
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Ammonitida posted...
Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
That's utter bulls***. I see this mentality all the time on the SJW blogosphere. You GTFO.
Sounds like you're going to the fringes of certain ideologies and stupidly applying it to the whole.
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hockeybub89 posted...
Kirby posted...
This is hilarious watching people try to defend transgenders but bash transracials.
One exists and one is stupid bulls*** pushed by attention whores like Rachel Dolezal and people deliberately ignorant of the transgender topic. One has current research and evidence that supports it and the other does not. That could change one day, but that day definitely isn't today and pushing an equivalence is dishonest at best.
I think giant squids exist. Does that mean I need to believe in Bigfoot? How can I think one animal is real but be so opposed to believing in this other one that a small group of people insist exists based on nothing?
Just because there isn't currently a lot of research does not mean it doesn't exist and should be completely shunned. If someone supports transgenders they should support transracial people as well. Who are you to say their brain isn't telling them to be black or asian when they're a different race? What if they grew up around a lot of black people or asians? And feel they connect with that culture more? If you're a liberal you should feel ashamed for dismissing them.
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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averagejoel posted...
is the existence of nonbinary people not enough evidence?
I don't believe they exist for the same reason I don't believe otherkin. I haven't seen anything that supports it. Where's the proof non-binary are something fundamentally different than trans people? gunplagirl posted...
For starters, the fact that presentation within a given gender can vary immensely. Femme, butch, androgynous among women for starters
How does listing various types of women prove there is more than men and women?
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Schwarber posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
That's utter bulls***. I see this mentality all the time on the SJW blogosphere. You GTFO.
Sounds like you're going to the fringes of certain ideologies and stupidly applying it to the whole.
The whole of what? I said "SJW" (which are fringe) as counter to the prior poster who falsely claimed that "literally no one is saying that".
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attack on sight1 day ago#60
Ammonitida posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
There are very real neurological differences between people who have gender dysphoria... Their brains are actually wired differently. It's not something they can control.
Evidence please.
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
you mean people that are like "damn that person is attractive" and then learn they're trans and then are like "eww never mind" cuz that is basically the definition of bigotry
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Delirious_Beard posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
There are very real neurological differences between people who have gender dysphoria... Their brains are actually wired differently. It's not something they can control.
Evidence please.
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
you mean people that are like "damn that person is attractive" and then learn they're trans and then are like "eww never mind"
cuz that is basically the definition of bigotry
Yes those people!
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averagejoel posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Kirby posted...
This is hilarious watching people try to defend transgenders but bash transracials.
One exists and one is stupid bulls*** pushed by attention whores like Rachel Dolezal and people deliberately ignorant of the transgender topic. One has current research and evidence that supports it and the other does not. That could change one day, but that day definitely isn't today and pushing an equivalence is dishonest at best.
I think giant squids exist. Does that mean I need to believe in Bigfoot? How can I think one animal is real but be so opposed to believing in this other one that a small group of people insist exists based on nothing?
transracial people do exist, but the word doesn't mean at all what Rachel Dolezal and her proponents think it means
Fair enough. It is a thing that exists, just absolutely nothing similar to transgenderism.
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Capn Circus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Kirby posted...
This is hilarious watching people try to defend transgenders but bash transracials.
One exists and one is stupid bulls*** pushed by attention whores like Rachel Dolezal and people deliberately ignorant of the transgender topic. One has current research and evidence that supports it and the other does not. That could change one day, but that day definitely isn't today and pushing an equivalence is dishonest at best.
I think giant squids exist. Does that mean I need to believe in Bigfoot? How can I think one animal is real but be so opposed to believing in this other one that a small group of people insist exists based on nothing?
Just because there isn't currently a lot of research does not mean it doesn't exist and should be completely shunned. If someone supports transgenders they should support transracial people as well. Who are you to say their brain isn't telling them to be black or asian when they're a different race?
What if they grew up around a lot of black people or asians? And feel they connect with that culture more? If you're a liberal you should feel ashamed for dismissing them.
I know some actual transracial people, and their issues are not at all what Rachel Dolezal makes them out to be
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Gender Dysphoria is a real conduction, racial dysphoria is not.
when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt.
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Conflict posted...
Wtf is the "SJW blogosphere" lmao
Random radicals from tumblr that apparently means tons of people think the same nonsense
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refugee love block me1 day ago#66
Ammonitida posted...
Conflict posted...
Wtf is the "SJW blogosphere" lmao
Since you ask, you clearly don't know what the f*** you're talking about, so STFU.
No, YOU STFU.
Do you like the way the water tastes?
Like gunfire
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attack on sight1 day ago#67
oh this dude has a /pol/ meme image for a sig, how did i just realize that
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Axiom posted...
Conflict posted...
Wtf is the "SJW blogosphere" lmao
Random radicals from tumblr that apparently means tons of people think the same nonsense
Because I never said "tons of people think that". I asked a question. At least one poster here says yes you are a bigot if you reject a transgender solely on account that they were not born that gender.
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Ammonitida posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
There are very real neurological differences between people who have gender dysphoria... Their brains are actually wired differently. It's not something they can control.
Evidence please.
@Ammonitidahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality#Brain_structureSee the sections on brain structure, brain function for the scientific literature citations...
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hockeybub89 posted...
averagejoel posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Kirby posted...
This is hilarious watching people try to defend transgenders but bash transracials.
One exists and one is stupid bulls*** pushed by attention whores like Rachel Dolezal and people deliberately ignorant of the transgender topic. One has current research and evidence that supports it and the other does not. That could change one day, but that day definitely isn't today and pushing an equivalence is dishonest at best.
I think giant squids exist. Does that mean I need to believe in Bigfoot? How can I think one animal is real but be so opposed to believing in this other one that a small group of people insist exists based on nothing?
transracial people do exist, but the word doesn't mean at all what Rachel Dolezal and her proponents think it means
Fair enough. It is a thing that exists, just absolutely nothing similar to transgenderism.
quick note: don't frame transgender issues as an "ism" calling trans issues an ism is reductive - it posits their identity and struggle as an arguable ideology, rather than the objective fact that it is
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Capn Circus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Kirby posted...
This is hilarious watching people try to defend transgenders but bash transracials.
One exists and one is stupid bulls*** pushed by attention whores like Rachel Dolezal and people deliberately ignorant of the transgender topic. One has current research and evidence that supports it and the other does not. That could change one day, but that day definitely isn't today and pushing an equivalence is dishonest at best.
I think giant squids exist. Does that mean I need to believe in Bigfoot? How can I think one animal is real but be so opposed to believing in this other one that a small group of people insist exists based on nothing?
Just because there isn't currently a lot of research does not mean it doesn't exist and should be completely shunned. If someone supports transgenders they should support transracial people as well. Who are you to say their brain isn't telling them to be black or asian when they're a different race?
What if they grew up around a lot of black people or asians? And feel they connect with that culture more? If you're a liberal you should feel ashamed for dismissing them.
So I should fully support something just because it potentially be proven to exist one day? I guess I better believe in every religion, mythological creature, and conspiracy theory then. What the f*** even is black culture and how is it hard coded into your brain? Trans men and women aren't influenced by growing up around lots of men or women, so the way you're suggesting "transracialism" exists is not even remotely similar
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Age identity disorder is a thing, too. Some people feel older or younger than they are.
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Are there actual mental differences between the races?
yes. however, i posted peer reviewed articles that studied mental capacity between races and it got modded
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Transgender man identifies as a hippo. https://www.lifesitenews.com/pulse/im-tranimal-scholar-identifies-as-hippo-in-peer-reviewed-article
A University of Arizona visiting scholar published an article in a peer-reviewed journal about how she self-identifies as a hippopotamus.
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Capn Circus posted...
Age identity disorder is a thing, too. Some people feel older or younger than they are.
Yup you convinced me. And people definitely can identify as attack helicopters too because all claims are scientifically valid if you really believe in them. I get you are a troll or whatever, but there are people who seriously make similar arguments to dispute homosexuality. "If homosexuality is natural, then why not ridiculous thing I just thought of?"
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@Ammonitida Did you see what I posted?
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For conservatives, "transracial" matters are just another form of "straight pride" and "white history month." These are people who, upon learning that there were people called Native Americans, got upset at the world's lack of so-called Native Britons.
an aspirin the size of the sun.
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averagejoel posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
averagejoel posted...
is the existence of nonbinary people not enough evidence?
Where
http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex
wait so it's just people with small dicks or big girl areas? lol
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
averagejoel posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
averagejoel posted...
is the existence of nonbinary people not enough evidence?
Where
http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex
wait so it's just people with small dicks or big girl areas? lol
um no some people are born with both some people have XY chromosomes and a vagina
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I'm cool with transgenders, but the made up genders never made sense to me. I saw a magazine cover where androgynous was listed alongside things like homosexual or trans male - how is that a gender, it's literally just an aesthetic (tbf homosexual isn't a gender either it's a sexual preference) As an outsider a lot of it just seems like people wanting to feel too special to pick one of the two established genders, which is all good and well, do what you want, but if you're not going to give a s*** about the rules everyone else is going by don't expect everyone else to give a s*** about your made up rules. It also seems to hurt a lot of the transgender crowd since the majority of them want to fit into a specific established gender but they're getting lumped in with loudmouths making up dumb stuff like pansexual - which if I understand is an attraction to personality regardless of gender, so bisexual then (which AGAIN is a sexual preference anyway not a gender) I guess the idea is to break down gender completely by crowding the language with new inane s*** until everyone gives up on gender completely, which might be a sort of greater good sort of thing as that would certainly solve a lot of transgender problems.
If life was meant to be easy, then everyone would be doing it.
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averagejoel posted...
um
no
some people are born with both
some people have XY chromosomes and a vagina
so hermaphrodites?
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I stand with Rachel Dolezal. She has the right to her own identity, just as anyone else does. She should be held up as a hero for the African-American community instead of being shamed for her racial identity.
I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister.
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Ammonitida posted...
Transgender man identifies as a hippo.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/pulse/im-tranimal-scholar-identifies-as-hippo-in-peer-reviewed-article
A University of Arizona visiting scholar published an article in a peer-reviewed journal about how she self-identifies as a hippopotamus.
"Something about being a hippo makes me feel cute, confident, sexy, and safe. I discovered that another self was available for me: being a hippo means that I don’t have to be a boy or a girl, a child or an adult, normal or strange. It means that my smile becomes a hippo smile, and the way that I carry my body, a hippo walk. It brings me freedom, space, and a thrilling sense of possibility." ROFL... that made my night! Unbelievable! He definitely voted for Hillary.
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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Because you can't call transgender people racist.
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I stand with Rachel Dolezal. She has the right to her own identity, just as anyone else does. She should be held up as a hero for the African-American community instead of being shamed for her racial identity.
Maybe one day she'll be our first female African American president
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
averagejoel posted...
um
no
some people are born with both
some people have XY chromosomes and a vagina
so hermaphrodites?
hermaphrodites are examples of intersex people, yes
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averagejoel posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
averagejoel posted...
um
no
some people are born with both
some people have XY chromosomes and a vagina
so hermaphrodites?
hermaphrodites are examples of intersex people, yes
but the thing you linked was only talking about people with weird lookin genitals and not both a vagina and dickle
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you just cannot grasp the reality of the situation
You feast on red herring because it is your birthright.
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
dickle
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
you just cannot grasp the reality of the situation
You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas' attack.
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People who deny transracials exist will be seen in the same light as people who used to think transgenders were "making it up for attention", in the next 20 years. They say there is nothing scientific about it, but I'm sure there will be an entire field that study the phenomenon soon. After that transspecies, transobject, and transcorporial breakthroughs will be made. Anyone who denies progress will be seen as a bigot
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RE_expert44 posted...
People who deny transracials exist will be seen in the same light as people who used to think transgenders were "making it up for attention", in the next 20 years. They say there is nothing scientific about it, but I'm sure there will be an entire field that study the phenomenon soon. After that transspecies, transobject, and transcorporial breakthroughs will be made. Anyone who denies progress will be seen as a bigot
This kind of slippery slope, argumentum ad absurdum is the exact same tactic people used against homosexuals for fifty years. "If we go along with this, then soon, people will be saying it's okay to fornicate with children and animals." No different.
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Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
@gunplagirl does
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thelovefist posted...
Conflict posted...
Ammonitida posted...
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
Literally nobody thinks this. Stfu
@gunplagirl does
If the sole reason for going from being attracted to no longer being attracted is that the woman is trans, then yes, it's because of biases against trans people. And acting on said biases? Gosh, what's the word to describe that?
Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020
IGN: Vanessa
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Delirious_Beard posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
There are very real neurological differences between people who have gender dysphoria... Their brains are actually wired differently. It's not something they can control.
Evidence please.
And are you a bigot if you are a straight male and don't find transgender females sexually attractive on account that they were born male?
you mean people that are like "damn that person is attractive" and then learn they're trans and then are like "eww never mind"
cuz that is basically the definition of bigotry
classic DB post
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gunplagirl posted...
If the sole reason for going from being attracted to no longer being attracted is that the woman is trans, then yes, it's because of biases against trans people.
but not everyone likes penis and doesnt like kids
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
gunplagirl posted...
If the sole reason for going from being attracted to no longer being attracted is that the woman is trans, then yes, it's because of biases against trans people.
but not everyone likes penis and doesnt like kids
So you jump right to assuming things about the trans woman? What's the word for when you start stereotyping an entire group of people over facts that are fluid between the group in question?
Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020
IGN: Vanessa
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