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Which bread product do you believe it is - Results (138 votes)
It's a NOTHING burger!
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It's an EVERYTHING bagel!
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you seem really bothered by this whole charade
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Poor mal reduced to stealing duck bears gimmick
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It's a something hoagie.
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He literally admitted to trying to met with someone with ties to the another nation to get get dirt one his other political rival.
How is this nohting ?
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cjsdowg posted...
He literally admitted to trying to met with someone with ties to the another nation to get get dirt one his other political rival. I guess it depends on your idea of nothing So if Hillary's meeting with the Ukrainian govt in her campaign was a nothing burger, then I guess this would be too.
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lol
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Mal_Fet posted...
cjsdowg posted...He literally admitted to trying to met with someone with ties to the another nation to get get dirt one his other political rival. Do you think that? Because both sound like something to me. Are you defending Hillary like the fair and balanced person you are?
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Mal_Fet posted...
So if Hillary's meeting with the Ukrainian govt in her campaign was a nothing burger, then I guess this would be too. literally but hillary
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Mal_Fet posted...
Stop watching fox , is that didn't happen. A political consultant, who had ties to the DNC , try to get information that way. And as of know there are no ties to Hillary at all from this. With Trump we have his Campaign Chairman and son at a meeting in order to get dirt. And Trump literally said we are going to have something big on Hillary . Also forgot to add. If it did happen just like you said WHO CARES Hillary isn't the president .
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The life of Mal_Fet:
1. Wake up 2. Breakfast of eggs and biscuit 3. Watch Archer reruns for a bit 4. Read a gun magazine 5. cook lunch, some nice chicken breasts 6. do some cleaning around the place 7. pay some bills 8. cook dinner, pork medallions and some asaparagus 9. start watching a movie, such as Deadpool 10. f***ING LIBERALS 11. f***ING go to gamefaqs LIBERALS 12. ARE YOU f***ING LIBERALS DONE WITH THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP JR?! 13. f***ING LIBERALS |
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Trump Jr.'s new lawyer hates Donald Trump. Now it's likely a coincidence but if Jr. Thinks he is going to become a scapegoat then why not hire a lawyer he know his father can't buy?
when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt.
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people like TC don't warrant serious engagement by anyone other than our best and brightest psychologists
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hockeybub89 posted...
Do you think that? Because both sound like something to me. Are you defending Hillary like the fair and balanced person you are? I dont believe I've ever attacked Hillary for doing that Since its legal
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Do you think that? Because both sound like something to me. Are you defending Hillary like the fair and balanced person you are? Are you sure it is legal? And your entire standard of being ok with something is its legality? You view everything like the defense attorney you aren't? |
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cjsdowg posted...
He literally admitted to trying to met with someone with ties to the another nation to get get dirt one his other political rival. Did you write this in a fit of rage? I normally don't call out this kind of stuff, but damn.
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
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hockeybub89 posted...
Are you sure it is legal? Yes hockeybub89 posted... And your entire standard of being ok with something is its legality? No, but this is not illegal nor immoral in my personal estimation
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It's an EVERYTHING bagel
...in that it's loaded with delicious BACKFIRE cream cheese. |
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neither of those things
jared kushner has the real problem, which is why he threw don jr under the bus by leaking this to make it seem like don jr was center stage despite he and manafort also being involved and failing to disclose
He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
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it's a s*** sandwich
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I haven't seen Mal this triggered since I reminded him that he thought NATO didn't exist before 9/11
I'm pleasantly surprised |
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It's another poop in the giant turd bowl that is the Trump Presidency.
Kind Regards,
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Capn Circus posted...
cjsdowg posted...He literally admitted to trying to met with someone with ties to the another nation to get get dirt one his other political rival. I'd usually point s*** like that out, but as someone who types on an iPhone and whose autocorrect does really dumb s*** sometimes, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt lol |
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Are you sure it is legal? What makes you sure it is legal? Because a CEman and some questionable sources assert value means money? Do you also think "employed in steering a vehicle" means getting paid to drive cars? Why do you not think it is immoral to attempt to work with a foreign government to dig up dirt on a political opponent for mutual gain? Answer without "But X Democrat". |
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Darmik posted...
It's another poop in the giant turd bowl that is the Trump Presidency. The problem is, by now everyone is used to the bowl full of poop, so one extra turd doesn't seem so bad. |
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hockeybub89 posted...
What makes you sure it is legal? ... Because it's not illegal to get information from a foreign government. It's illegal for a campaign to get money from a foreign government, but information is fine.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...What makes you sure it is legal? How are your opponent's dirty little secrets not something of value? |
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...What makes you sure it is legal? Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. .https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20 I guess we'll see. It's not like those emails tell the whole story anyway and I'm sure everything about it is being investigated.
Kind Regards,
Darmik |
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hockeybub89 posted...
How are your opponent's dirty little secrets not something of value? Whether or not information has value is irrelevant to its legality
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
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thing of value does mean more than money but info from other places probably doesnt qualify lol
He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
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It`s a something donut.
I don't hate people, people hate me.
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Mal_Fet posted...
Whether or not information has value is irrelevant to its legality well now both sides just look stupid if it were something of more clear electoral value -- like polling information and contact lists to be used for the campaign -- that would probably count but general information that a candidate might use to beat an opponent isnt the same thing
He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
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Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...How are your opponent's dirty little secrets not something of value? Official documents from Russia seem to be things of value. And foreign nationals cannot provide things of value. Trump Jr tried to obtain something of value from a foreign national on behalf of their government for the political gain of both his father and Russia. You maintain that the proper response is "Nothing to see here even if it was secret for a while and Jr changed his story multiple times. Nothing worth asking questions about. Even if there was, but Hillary. |
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At the very least the Trumps were being investigated for Russian ties. The NY Times found out that they have some sort of connection with Russians and they talked during the campaign about having dirt on Clinton.
It's not like the investigation just stops there. Hell I'm sure the people actually investigating this stuff already knew this or know a lot more. The fun will begin with those guys present the results of their investigation. If anything it's surprising this much has leaked out already.
Kind Regards,
Darmik |
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Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...What makes you sure it is legal? He's just going to ignore this, you know. |
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Trump Jr.: Has one meeting with Russian non-government lawyer expecting dirt on Hillary, no information is actually exchanged
Chalupa: Paid DNC employee has multiple meetings with Ukraine, actually gets information on Trump and shares it with Clinton campaign IMPEACH TRUMP!!!1! |
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Vertania posted...
Trump Jr.: Has one meeting with Russian non-government lawyer expecting dirt on Hillary, no information is actually exchanged Well we can't impeach a disgraced b**** who embarrassed herself by losing to a reality star. She isn't President. |
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Vertania posted...
Trump Jr.: Has one meeting with Russian non-government lawyer expecting dirt on Hillary, no information is actually exchanged 
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hockeybub89 posted...
Official documents from Russia seem to be things of value. Basketball tickets are a thing of value. The information that Hillary Clinton has a sex tape is not a "thing" of value.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
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hockeybub89 posted...
Well we can't impeach a disgraced b**** who embarrassed herself by losing to a reality star. She isn't President. Samurontai posted... So... you agree it's not criminal, then? |
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Nobody here knows what happened during the meeting. Not sure why you'd believe Don Jr or the Russian lawyers word on it considering what they've said over the past week.
Personally I think it was about Hillary's emails but I can only speculate.
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The intent of the email is what it is. It's disappointing but it's not an impeachable offense - not by a long shot.
"Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia
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Vertania posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Well we can't impeach a disgraced b**** who embarrassed herself by losing to a reality star. She isn't President. Where did I say that? |
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Samurontai posted...
Vertania posted...Trump Jr.: Has one meeting with Russian non-government lawyer expecting dirt on Hillary, no information is actually exchanged If only liberals cares 1/4 as much when their precious DNC breaks the law. Donald Trump has broken no law and he will not be impeached.This is just another attempt for the mouth foaming liberals to win back the presidency their queen lost.
We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis
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HypnoCoosh posted...
If only liberals cares 1/4 as much when their precious DNC breaks the law. as someone who has been saying obama is terrible at least since 2011, it really makes me mad that so many people are all about this "what about the other side" s***
He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
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If you want to make a topic about the potential criminal offenses from Hillary's campaign go ahead.
Kind Regards,
Darmik |
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Samurontai posted...Vertania posted...Trump Jr.: Has one meeting with Russian non-government lawyer expecting dirt on Hillary, no information is actually exchanged Uh, I hate the DNC, and I hate Hillary Clinton even more But gg, Hypno you tried and failed again |
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Samurontai posted...
Where did I say that? Well, if it's criminal, then both of them could potentially be in trouble and deserved to be focused on. The DNC losing doesn't absolve them from consequences. |
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Vertania posted...
Samurontai posted...Where did I say that? The President will always be the primary focus and the reasons for that should be obvious. Do you think people would give a s*** if Jeb spoke to Putin himself?
Kind Regards,
Darmik
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Mal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
Donald Trump Jrhockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
Donald Trump Jr
Mal_Fet posted...
Who says they didn't?
And probably not, considering the woman wasn't really with the Russian govt and had no actual info.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
And probably not, considering the woman wasn't really with the Russian govt and had no actual info.
I don't think that's up to Donny Jr to decide.Kind Regards,
DarmikMal_Fet posted...cjsdowg posted...
Once she wasn't,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-ukraine-try-to-interfere-in-the-2016-election/ar-BBEktQK
Even MSN admits that the only difference here is if you consider Russia a hostile nation to the US.
we already know that hillary clinton is literally willing to help dictators overthrow democratically elected regimes so what even is your point? that voting for trump, assuming you expected less pay for play and more america first, was a stupid idea?
I literally cant understand these conservative defenses, all they do is basically admit they're guilty by their own definition and then b**** about cnn pointing that out for them but not that hildawg was guilty tooHe would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.Darmik posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
And probably not, considering the woman wasn't really with the Russian govt and had no actual info.
I don't think that's up to Donny Jr to decide.
Considering he isn't set to be on trial. the law apparently agreed with him.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellWe were over this, Mal. The result of the meeting isn't the interesting part. Why Trump was excited and the implications of the email are.
If I remember, your best excuse yesterday was "Trump Jr will just deny that the email meant anything." Lies and denial seem to betray the idea that everything is above board.(edited 22 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
And probably not, considering the woman wasn't really with the Russian govt and had no actual info.
I don't think that's up to Donny Jr to decide.
Considering he isn't set to be on trial. the law apparently agreed with him.
Well I guess you can shut up about Hillary then and emails. Never being taken to trial proves the law agrees with you.Mal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
And wasn't the Trump administration required to disclose meetings like this considering they were being investigated for Russian connections?
Who says they didn't?
And probably not, considering the woman wasn't really with the Russian govt and had no actual info.
I don't think that's up to Donny Jr to decide.
Considering he isn't set to be on trial. the law apparently agreed with him.
Isn't the investigation into the Trump Administration still going?Kind Regards,
Darmik(edited 22 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...cjsdowg posted...
Once she wasn't,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-ukraine-try-to-interfere-in-the-2016-election/ar-BBEktQK
Even MSN admits that the only difference here is if you consider Russia a hostile nation to the US.
Dude do you read what you post ?
From your own link.
t wasn't so much the Clinton campaign, per se, but a Democratic operative working with the Democratic National Committee did reach out to the Ukrainian government in an attempt to get damaging information about the Trump campaign.
Yet you keep suggesting Hillary met with these people.Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?UnholyMudcrab posted...Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
What makes you sure it is legal?
... Because it's not illegal to get information from a foreign government.
It's illegal for a campaign to get money from a foreign government, but information is fine.Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
.https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
I guess we'll see. It's not like those emails tell the whole story anyway and I'm sure everything about it is being investigated.
He's just going to ignore this, you know.
Looks like I was right.hockeybub89 posted...Well I guess you can shut up about Hillary then and emails. Never being taken to trial proves the law agrees with you.
Only reason Hillary never went to trial is because they can't prove she ordered that guy to scrub all her devices. It is however proven that Trump Jr. attempted to get information from a Russian official, yet he's not in handcuffs. Weird, huh?
cjsdowg posted...Yet you keep suggesting Hillary met with these people.
So if someone from the GOP did the meeting rather than the president's son, it would be no biggie?
@UnholyMudcrab posted...Looks like I was right.
Post #40, champ.
literally three posts after yours.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 20 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...Post #40, champ.
literally three posts after yours.
Wherein you blather about baseball and a Hillary Clinton sex tape because you thought it was somehow the most relevant way to discuss the topic? What exactly is going on in your mind?Mal_Fet posted...
So if someone from the GOP did the meeting rather than the president's son, it would be no biggie?
One it would be less ties to him and still something to look at . But you know Hillary isn't the president .
And someone with direct ties to Trump did this. People in his campaign, his son, and people he has given positions of power too.
I know you love defend Trump, but dude really.Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?Mal_Fet posted...So if someone from the GOP did the meeting rather than the president's son, it would be no biggie?
He'd probably get fired and buried and everyone else would distance themselves from him so yeah.Kind Regards,
DarmikUnholyMudcrab posted...Wherein you blather about baseball and a Hillary Clinton sex tape because you thought it was somehow the most relevant way to discuss the topic?
The thrust is that information is not a "thing of value"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/opinions/trump-jr-russia-meeting-not-illegal-callan/index.html
Even CNN's analysts say it's not illegal. Get over it, bro.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell@HypnoCoosh posted...Samurontai posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Balrog0 posted...
obama is terrible
For the record I voted for Obama in 2008. My dislike of him is not biased.
Lul, I'm sure you did
I did 2008 was a log time ago I was younger and more naive
Ah, I voted for McCain back then because I was younger and less intelligentMal_Fet posted...UnholyMudcrab posted...
Wherein you blather about baseball and a Hillary Clinton sex tape because you thought it was somehow the most relevant way to discuss the topic?
The thrust is that information is not a "thing of value"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/opinions/trump-jr-russia-meeting-not-illegal-callan/index.html
Even CNN's analysts say it's not illegal. Get over it, bro.
That article also ends with what I have been saying that this just adds fuel to the fire. Nothing illegal may have happened BUT....... Why was this covered up? Why do people around Trump keep lying about meetings with Russians? What others parts are there to this support of Trump's campaign by the Russian government that the emails refer to?
You see a ship that has sailed and I don't even think we've started welding the pieces together.hockeybub89 posted...
That article also ends with what I have been saying that this just adds fuel to the fire. Nothing illegal may have happened BUT....... Why was this covered up?
It wasn't covered up so much as it was probably just tossed aside. The lady wasn't with the Russian govt and had no information to give them like they were promised, remember?
Question: Now that you know even CNN's analysts are sure that wasn't illegal, you accept it now, right?Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 19 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...
That article also ends with what I have been saying that this just adds fuel to the fire. Nothing illegal may have happened BUT....... Why was this covered up?
It wasn't covered up so much as it was probably just tossed aside. The lady wasn't with the Russian govt and had no information to give them like they were promised, remember?
Question: Now that you know even CNN's analysts are sure that wasn't illegal, you accept it now, right?
Again, I conceded this might not be illegal a very long time ago. I still think we are barely scratching the surface. Assurances from one of Trump's boyfriends like you isn't going to cut it.
And what do you mean even CNN? Do you think I give a f*** what they say?(edited 19 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...UnholyMudcrab posted...
Wherein you blather about baseball and a Hillary Clinton sex tape because you thought it was somehow the most relevant way to discuss the topic?
The thrust is that information is not a "thing of value"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/opinions/trump-jr-russia-meeting-not-illegal-callan/index.html
Even CNN's analysts say it's not illegal. Get over it, bro.
Ah, but it is.
http://eqs.fec.gov/eqsdocsMUR/00002BF9.pdf
To sum that up, the Federal Election Commission ruled that information (in this case in the form of a list of potential donors) can be considered a thing of value, and that providing that information was a violation of the act.hockeybub89 posted...Again, I conceded this might not be illegal a very long time ago. I still think we are barely scratching the surface.
Do you have anything beyond conspiracy theories
Because in other topics that's all you ever presentedFreedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell@UnholyMudcrab posted...Mal_Fet posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Wherein you blather about baseball and a Hillary Clinton sex tape because you thought it was somehow the most relevant way to discuss the topic?
The thrust is that information is not a "thing of value"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/opinions/trump-jr-russia-meeting-not-illegal-callan/index.html
Even CNN's analysts say it's not illegal. Get over it, bro.
Ah, but it is.
http://eqs.fec.gov/eqsdocsMUR/00002BF9.pdf
To sum that up, the Federal Election Commission ruled that information (in this case in the form of a list of potential donors) can be considered a thing of value, and that providing that information was a violation of the act.
Can be considered a thing of value doesn't mean always is a thing of value. It depends entirely on the nature of the info.
Of which there was none.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwellis nothing burger the new stupid and overused buzzwordMal_Fet posted...Can be considered a thing of value doesn't mean always is a thing of value. It depends entirely on the nature of the info.
Of which there was none.
If the info was valuable would they admit it and do anything differently?Kind Regards,
DarmikI read the articles and listened to the interview with Trump Jr. To me, it was clear that he was trying to gather evidence on Russia to turn over to the FBI or some branch of intelligence. Now, if you want to say that he was careless and should have immediately contacted the FBI, etc. instead of trying to take it upon himself to expose Russia then that's a completely fair criticism. But trying to paint this as an attempt at collusion is being dishonest and shows you to be nothing more than a partisan hack.."If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeDifferentialEquation posted...I read the articles and listened to the interview with Trump Jr. To me, it was clear that he was trying to gather evidence on Russia to turn over to the FBI or some branch of intelligence. Now, if you want to say that he was careless and should have immediately contacted the FBI, etc. instead of trying to take it upon himself to expose Russia then that's a completely fair criticism. But trying to paint this as an attempt at collusion is being dishonest and shows you to be nothing more than a partisan hack..
you never fail to deliverChromaticAngel posted...DifferentialEquation posted...
I read the articles and listened to the interview with Trump Jr. To me, it was clear that he was trying to gather evidence on Russia to turn over to the FBI or some branch of intelligence. Now, if you want to say that he was careless and should have immediately contacted the FBI, etc. instead of trying to take it upon himself to expose Russia then that's a completely fair criticism. But trying to paint this as an attempt at collusion is being dishonest and shows you to be nothing more than a partisan hack..
you never fail to deliver
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/11/trump-jr-claims-he-wouldve-reported-shady-information-video/In an exclusive interview with Fox News’ Hannity Tuesday night, Trump Jr. partially blamed his “learning curve” when it comes to politics for the way he chose to handle the meeting request. Nevertheless, he claimed he would’ve turned “shady” information over to the authorities.
"If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice CubeMal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...
Again, I conceded this might not be illegal a very long time ago. I still think we are barely scratching the surface.
Do you have anything beyond conspiracy theories
Because in other topics that's all you ever presented
Intelligence agencies are already investigating because lies constantly surround people near Trump and dealings with Russians. I'm sorry everyone can't be like you and chalk that up to forgetfulness and coincidence without question. Once someone peeks out from the closet, we need to swing that door open and sweep for skeletons. Don't you dare But Obama me.Mal_Fet posted...Can be considered a thing of value doesn't mean always is a thing of value. It depends entirely on the nature of the info.
Of which there was none.
You tried this line of awkward semantics-poking before in another topic, and wisely dropped it because you presumably realized how ridiculous it sounded. I suggest you do the same here.(edited 16 hours ago)Darmik posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Can be considered a thing of value doesn't mean always is a thing of value. It depends entirely on the nature of the info.
Of which there was none.
If the info was valuable would they admit it and do anything differently?
So basically you're putting forward a conspiracy theory. In other words, a nothing burger.
hockeybub89 posted...
Intelligence agencies are already investigating because lies constantly surround people near Trump and dealings with Russians.
K. Doesn't mean this is one of those cases.
UnholyMudcrab posted...
You tried this line of awkward semantics-poking before in another topic, and wisely dropped it because you presumably realized how ridiculous it sounded.
Wow, projecting much?
Not all sorts of information counts as a thing of value. That is explicitly stated by your own source. The meeting could only be considered illegal if the information they were provided was a certain sort of info, and since there was no info, then there was no thing of value.
I'm not sure how to make that simpler.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...K. Doesn't mean this is one of those cases.
Doesn't mean it isn't. It couldn't hurt to throw it in the pile. You aren't a Republican and don't care for Trump. The truth is worth it, right?Mal_Fet posted...So basically you're putting forward a conspiracy theory
Lying isn't a conspiracy theory. Trump Jr had already changed his story 3 times as more info leaked out. Trump had already contradicted himself that he knew about this meeting.
Neither of us know if there was anything of value during that meeting. Why would you take Trump Jr's word on it?Kind Regards,
Darmikhockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...
K. Doesn't mean this is one of those cases.
Doesn't mean it isn't. It couldn't hurt to throw it in the pile. You aren't a Republican and don't care for Trump. The truth is worth it, right?
No, unlike you I don't accuse politicians of things there's no evidence for. Not Obama, not Hillary, and not Trump.
Darmik posted...Lying isn't a conspiracy theory. Trump Jr had already changed his story 3 times as more info leaked out. Trump had already contradicted himself that he knew about this meeting.
Neither of us know if there was anything of value during that meeting. Why would you take Trump Jr's word on it?
The emails that Trump Jr. himself released are the only source we have here. All the people involved, including the Russian lawyer herself, say there was no information about Hillary's campaign. You can't on one hand take Trump Jr.'s emails as the gospel truth and then refuse to believe him about anything else. It's really clear you're only willing to believe the things he tells you that you already want to believe.
Because why stop there? Why not question whether the emails themselves are legitimate? If you're willing to insist that he, Kushner, Manafort, and Veselnitskaya are willing to lie about everything regarding their meeting, why don't you also question the validity of the very emails he released that started all this? Maybe the REAL conversation was about something even worse, and all this is a charade to keep the public distracted! Maybe it was really about giving Putin the nuclear codes!Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 15 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...
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K. Doesn't mean this is one of those cases.
Doesn't mean it isn't. It couldn't hurt to throw it in the pile. You aren't a Republican and don't care for Trump. The truth is worth it, right?
No, unlike you I don't accuse politicians of things there's no evidence for. Not Obama, not Hillary, and not Trump.
Darmik posted...Lying isn't a conspiracy theory. Trump Jr had already changed his story 3 times as more info leaked out. Trump had already contradicted himself that he knew about this meeting.
Neither of us know if there was anything of value during that meeting. Why would you take Trump Jr's word on it?
The emails that Trump Jr. himself released are the only source we have here. All the people involved, including the Russian lawyer herself, say there was no information about Hillary's campaign. You can't on one hand take Trump Jr.'s emails as the gospel truth and then refuse to believe him about anything else. It's really clear you're only willing to believe the things he tells you that you already want to believe.
Because why stop there? Why not question whether the emails themselves are legitimate? If you're willing to insist that he, Kushner, Manafort, and Veselnitskaya are willing to lie about everything regarding their meeting, why don't you also question the validity of the very emails he released that started all this? Maybe the REAL conversation was about something even worse, and all this is a charade to keep the public distracted! Maybe it was really about giving Putin the nuclear codes!
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?
Why would he do that?Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?
Why would he do that?
I dunno, why would he reveal all his emails about the event just to lie about what happenedFreedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?
Why would he do that?
I dunno, why would he reveal all his emails about the event just to lie about what happened
because he's a dumbass who has no f***ing idea what he's doing.
RE: Paul Ryan "Trump is too stupid to not leak information" except the son is even worse.Mal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?
Why would he do that?
I dunno, why would he reveal all his emails about the event just to lie about what happened
Because the New York Times was gonna leak them anyway? Because the emails on their own have enough wriggle room for him to deny he did anything wrong even though they make him look bad?
If you're gonna deflect you should probably check that there's logic behind it first.Kind Regards,
DarmikChromaticAngel posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Err why would leaked private emails between several people that weren't intended to be read by the public be fake?
Trump Jr. leaked them himself. He coulda just written them all up in MS Word, right?
Why would he do that?
I dunno, why would he reveal all his emails about the event just to lie about what happened
because he's a dumbass who has no f***ing idea what he's doing.
RE: Paul Ryan "Trump is too stupid to not leak information" except the son is even worse.
So is he too dumb not to incriminate himself, but also smart enough to get four other people to commit to the same lie to get him off the hook?Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellDarmik posted...Because the New York Times was gonna leak them anyway?
What? No they weren't. The NYT guy had a story about the meeting happening, but he didn't have access to the emails.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 14 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Because the New York Times was gonna leak them anyway?
What? No they weren't. The NYT guy had a story about the meeting happening, but he didn't have access to the emails.
https://nytimes.com/2017/07/11/opinion/donald-trump-jr-emails-russia.htmlAll along, the truth was right there in the emails — Donald Trump Jr.’s emails, that is, which he released publicly on Twitter Tuesday morning after learning that The New York Times was about to publish their contents.
Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Mal_Fet posted...
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Because the New York Times was gonna leak them anyway?
What? No they weren't. The NYT guy had a story about the meeting happening, but he didn't have access to the emails.
https://nytimes.com/2017/07/11/opinion/donald-trump-jr-emails-russia.htmlAll along, the truth was right there in the emails — Donald Trump Jr.’s emails, that is, which he released publicly on Twitter Tuesday morning after learning that The New York Times was about to publish their contents.
Unless you're accusing the reporter of committing a misdemeanor by hacking into a private citizen's email, I'm pretty sure they just mean he was going to report on the info that the emails confirmed. Not the actual emails themselves.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 14 hours ago)Mal_Fet posted...Unless you're accusing the reporter of committing a misdemeanor by hacking into a private citizen's email, I'm pretty sure they just mean he was going to report on the info that the emails confirmed. Not the actual emails themselves.
Or it was leaked to him because the Trump Administration is a leaky ship.
Did we all hack Trump Jr because we read the emails genius?Kind Regards,
DarmikDarmik posted...Or it was leaked to him because the Trump Administration is a leaky ship.
The email was between himself and Goldstone, another guy who confirms that the lady had no info on Hillary. Only one of them could have released them.Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMal_Fet posted...Darmik posted...
Or it was leaked to him because the Trump Administration is a leaky ship.
The email was between himself and Goldstone, another guy who confirms that the lady had no info on Hillary. Only one of them could have released them.
And? You forgot Kushner too.Kind Regards,
Darmik(edited 14 hours ago)Darmik posted...Mal_Fet posted...
Darmik posted...
Or it was leaked to him because the Trump Administration is a leaky ship.
The email was between himself and Goldstone, another guy who confirms that the lady had no info on Hillary. Only one of them could have released them.
And? You forgot Kushner too.
Ok, so you think another guy who also said that she had no information released the emails?Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 14 hours ago)@Samurontai posted...Ah, I voted for McCain back then because I was younger and less intelligent
Obama ran a better campaign that McCain in 2008. But Obama is a smooth talker and turned out to be a liar and a race baiter. Hence why he didn't get my vote in 2012 and Romney was the better candidate, better than we had seen in decades.
Also for the record in 2016 I didn't vote for Hillary or Trump.We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. LewisHypnoCoosh posted...Also for the record in 2016 I didn't vote for Hillary or Trump.
They weren't required to disclose these kinds of meetings. 2 private citizens meeting each other.- Boards
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