July 28, 2017

are people still pretending democrats are as bad as republicans

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are people still saying "both sides are the same guys"
gunplagirl 1 day ago#2
Yep. They still think punching Nazis is worse than being one tio
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Hopefully not. I don't know how you could think so after this s*** show honestly. :u Democrats will just have to clean the mess up once the GOP tires itself out and stops s***ting the bed, like we always do. It is a thankless job but someone has to do it.
Darkman124 1 day ago#4
it plays into the republican strategy: "You can't trust government. Look how incompetent we are! Same thing both sides! Vote for us, we'll uproot this incompetent government we have created!"

unfortunately some dems are eager to exchange their power for wealth. look no farther than the MD state legislature, which participated in rent seeking for alcohol distributors and almost destroyed their entire craft beer industry in the process (and DID destroy any hopes of small brewers for going pro)

but none of this is really comparable
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tremain07 1 day ago#5
They are incompetent and f***ing annoying and that's way worse than corrupt evil. Like would you want Scratch and Grounder leading a country over Dark Vader?
I got nothing
BLAKUboy 1 day ago#6
Somehow yes. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say Democrats are angels, because they aren't. But Republicans are very clearly worse in pretty much every regard.
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tremain07 posted...
They are incompetent and f***ing annoying and that's way worse than corrupt evil. Like would you want Scratch and Grounder leading a country over Dark Vader?

Both sides are equally incompetent.
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tremain07 1 day ago#8
creativerealms posted...
tremain07 posted...
They are incompetent and f***ing annoying and that's way worse than corrupt evil. Like would you want Scratch and Grounder leading a country over Dark Vader?

Both sides are equally incompetent.

Nope, Reps are incompetent at leading and running a government but absolute kings at obstructing government, abusing government and changing government to suite them. Dems are incompetent at running the government and everything else. Look at their god awful attempts to earn back the public's trust, they're going to get destroyed in 2018 making the empire more powerful
I got nothing
It's pretty clear that anyone who says they're both the same is looking for an easy cop out instead of an actual analysis.
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The Democrats hurt my feelings more so i think they are just as bad.
gunplagirl posted...
Yep. They still think punching Nazis is worse than being one tio


All these little skinny jeans, hair dye, "dont assume my gender" kids are so cute with their pretend fights against a group as nonexistent and irrelevant as neo-nazis. Liberals always gotta always be pissed about something and start s*** somehow. Just gotta disguise it as "justified cuz its against big, bad, evil, racist nazis who are out being all prominent and committing hate crimes and s***." Lolol
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pinky0926 1 day ago#12
Caution999 1 day ago#13
Which party was so corrupt that they screwed over Bernie in favor of Hillary?


Hint: Not the Republican party.
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It depends on the person

Rand Paul is one of the best Congressmen, and guess what he is a Republican
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pinky0926 1 day ago#15
Caution999 posted...
Which party was so corrupt that they screwed over Bernie in favor of Hillary?


Hint: Not the Republican party.


Which party was so inept that out of 17 republican nominees it decided that Trump was the best option?
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pinky0926 posted...
https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/

TL;DR - republicans voting against public interest, every time.

But peolle don't notice s*** like this, they're too busy getting wrapped up in rhetorical messes like this:
Caution999 posted...
Which party was so corrupt that they screwed over Bernie in favor of Hillary?


Hint: Not the Republican party.
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Depends on which Dem and which Rep. They're not all the same person.
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pinky0926 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Which party was so corrupt that they screwed over Bernie in favor of Hillary?


Hint: Not the Republican party.


Which party was so inept that out of 17 republican nominees it decided that Trump was the best option?

Which party was so inept that it decided to run the candidate that lost to Trump?
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Caution999 1 day ago#19
rhetorical?

The Dems hired a third party entity to go over their DNC servers. Why not use the government?

Because they're afraid it will spill the beans about how Hillary fixed the primaries
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pinky0926 1 day ago#20
BilalPowell posted...
Which party was so inept that it decided to run the candidate that lost to Trump?


So we can agree that both parties are bad, yes. This is all a distraction from:

shockthemonkey posted...
But peolle don't notice s*** like this, they're too busy getting wrapped up in rhetorical messes
pinky0926 1 day ago#21
Caution999 posted...
rhetorical?

The Dems hired a third party entity to go over their DNC servers. Why not use the government?

Because they're afraid it will spill the beans about how Hillary fixed the primaries


Still talking about hillary's emails and bernie sanders, my goodness. Find something relevant to discuss.
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The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"
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pinky0926 1 day ago#23
Damn_Underscore posted...
The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"


https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/
Garioshi 1 day ago#24
Which party is actively attempting to kill people as we speak?
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pinky0926 posted...
Caution999 posted...
rhetorical?

The Dems hired a third party entity to go over their DNC servers. Why not use the government?

Because they're afraid it will spill the beans about how Hillary fixed the primaries


Still talking about hillary's emails and bernie sanders, my goodness. Find something relevant to discuss.

Caution doesn't know anything about policy so this is all he can do.
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Caution999 1 day ago#26
We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.
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Caution999 1 day ago#28
Garioshi posted...
Which party is actively attempting to kill people as we speak?


The one that is promoting this "resistance" - by using violence as a means of getting attention.
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Garioshi posted...
Which party is actively attempting to kill people as we speak?

Both probably.
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pinky0926 1 day ago#30
Caution999 posted...
We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.


Both sides are guilty of corruption, but one side is actively voting against public interest unanimously across the board. This is a fact, unless you happen to be against oversight, against transparency, against fair trial, pro teen pregnancy, anti family planning, against net neutrality, against affordable education, etc. etc. etc.

It's not cherry picking. It's cherry harvesting.
Darkman124 1 day ago#31
pinky0926 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"


https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/


that thread gets even better up higher

https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhp6bkr/

the data on how republican voters' views on whether something is good or not depend mostly on whether a republican is doing it is particularly disturbing
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pinky0926 posted...
Caution999 posted...
We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.


Both sides are guilty of corruption, but one side is actively voting against public interest unanimously across the board. This is a fact, unless you happen to be against oversight, against transparency, against fair trial, pro teen pregnancy, anti family planning, against net neutrality, against affordable education, etc. etc. etc.

It's not cherry picking. It's cherry harvesting.
pinky0926 1 day ago#33
Darkman124 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"


https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/


that thread gets even better up higher

https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhp6bkr/

the data on how republican voters' views on whether something is good or not depend mostly on whether a republican is doing it is particularly disturbing


Really interesting considering the stereotype for democrats is that they do everything by feelings rather than logic, isn't it
pinky0926 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"


https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/


Once again, "My team's congressmen are better!!"

Notice that those votes are mostly on party lines. How many congressmen don't really care and were just voting on party lines? The vote count doesn't tell you that.
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funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously
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Damn_Underscore posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
The Democrats also had like 4 candidates... it really was Hillary's turn

Also this topic is a huge burying your head in the sand. "My team's congressmen are better!!"


https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/


Once again, "My team's congressmen are better!!"

Notice that those votes are mostly on party lines. How many congressmen don't really care and were just voting on party lines? The vote count doesn't tell you that.

This is a bad deflection from actual data.
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pinky0926 1 day ago#37
Damn_Underscore posted...
Once again, "My team's congressmen are better!!"

Notice that those votes are mostly on party lines. How many congressmen don't really care and were just voting on party lines? The vote count doesn't tell you that.


It would appear they are objectively better, provided you feel that policy decisions are an important thing that should reflect public interest.
pinky0926 posted...
Really interesting considering the stereotype for democrats is that they do everything by feelings rather than logic, isn't it

People with no sense of awareness are f***ing horrifying. The Republicans are literally the party of the religious right.

Not bashing religious folks, but you just as emotional as the far left crowd is.

And nothing is wrong with being emotional, but have some damn self awareness.
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"they're both bad" is like a political equivalent of "I don't see race"
FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#40
Vindris_SNH posted...
funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously

lazy what

i think i appropriately and overtly ridiculed the people who make that claim
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Garioshi 1 day ago#41
BilalPowell posted...
Garioshi posted...
Which party is actively attempting to kill people as we speak?

Both probably.

Please stop this false neutrality.
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FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously

lazy what

i think i accurately and overtly ridiculed the people who make that claim

Vindris is just projecting, he's been so bats*** crazy lately that he needs to pretend someone else is the problem
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shockthemonkey posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously

lazy what

i think i accurately and overtly ridiculed the people who make that claim

Vindris is just projecting, he's been so bats*** crazy lately that he needs to pretend someone else is the problem


I don't go around insulting entire groups of people without at least explaining why I think that way. TC was lazy, and usually that kind of laziness and lack of thought indicates pure trolling.

And bats*** crazy? Wtf are you talking about?
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Haldol 1 day ago#44
Both sides suck and play for the same team
Republicans voted in a corporate overlord.
Democrats only wanted to put a corporate lapdog into power.

Totally different.

That said, I'm part of the lower class. No one can tell me with a straight face that either party has my best interests in mind. Quite the contrary, they're both always looking for new ways to put me over a barrel and then feigning apology when they mention they forgot to bring lube again. I've been through Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush: Part Deux, and Obama. I had every f***ing reason to think Clinton Redux and Trump would be more of the goddamn same.

Same s*** both sides, they're no allies of mine.
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FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#47
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't go around insulting entire groups of people without at least explaining why I think that way. TC was lazy, and usually that kind of laziness and lack of thought indicates pure trolling.

And bats*** crazy? Wtf are you talking about?

youre the religious zealot right? i dont really ever see you explain yourself. you enter a topic, say some stupid s***, someone smart challenges you, you bow out with a "yeah okay" and you disappear. you even did it in a topic i was reading this morning
FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#48
Haldol posted...
Both sides suck and play for the same team

Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Same s*** both sides

lolololol
FrenchCrunch posted...
youre the religious zealot right?


I wouldn't describe myself as a religious zealot. And I think the only reason someone here would accuse me of being a "zealot" is because they want to discredit my logical, non-religiously based opinions on issues.

FrenchCrunch posted...
i dont really ever see you explain yourself.


Then you don't read.

FrenchCrunch posted...
you enter a topic, say some stupid s***, someone smart challenges you, you bow out with a "yeah okay" and you disappear. you even did it in a topic i was reading this morning


That happened once recently because we were going off on a tangent that wasn't the main point of the thread and I didn't feel like derailing the whole thing, so I cut the conversation off. And there's nothing wrong with getting to a point where both people have stated why they think what they think, and saying, "OK I get it, we disagree, have a nice day." There's a point where an argument just becomes a waste of time.
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    FrenchCrunch 2 days ago#51
    Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
    Vote Democrat

    Always vote Democrat

    Every time

    Dont boycott

    Dont stay home

    Dont vote green

    Dont let this happen again

    We'll pick Bernie next time

    who's your main?
    FrenchCrunch 2 days ago#52
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    That happened once recently because we were going off on a tangent that wasn't the main point of the thread and I didn't feel like derailing the whole thing, so I cut the conversation off. And there's nothing wrong with getting to a point where both people have stated why they think what they think, and saying, "OK I get it, we disagree, have a nice day." There's a point where an argument just becomes a waste of time.

    you backed down immediately after you were challenged. that's not an argument lolololol
    Vindris_SNH 2 days ago#53
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    That happened once recently because we were going off on a tangent that wasn't the main point of the thread and I didn't feel like derailing the whole thing, so I cut the conversation off. And there's nothing wrong with getting to a point where both people have stated why they think what they think, and saying, "OK I get it, we disagree, have a nice day." There's a point where an argument just becomes a waste of time.

    you backed down immediately after you were challenged. that's not an argument lolololol


    Call it what you want, the reason I did it was because I didn't want to derail the thread. The whole point was to avoid the argument in order to avoid disrupting the thread. So yes, you're right I didn't make any sort of real argument in that particular instance.
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    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
    Vote Democrat

    Always vote Democrat

    Every time

    Dont boycott

    Dont stay home

    Dont vote green

    Dont let this happen again

    We'll pick Bernie next time

    who's your main?
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    So @FrenchCrunch 

    In the spirit of "explaining yourself", care to explain exactly why you think Republicans are worse than Democrats?
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    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Same s*** both sides

    lolololol


    That's fine, I wasn't expecting a compelling argument for whichever side you're on anyway.
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    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#58
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Call it what you want, the reason I did it was because I didn't want to derail the thread. The whole point was to avoid the argument in order to avoid disrupting the thread. So yes, you're right I didn't make any sort of real argument in that case.

    you already challenged someone 2 or 3 times by referring to what they were saying as stupid

    then when they were like "bro are you ready for me to prove why what im saying isnt stupid" you were all like "nah i dont really care i just posted 6 times about it and called what you were saying stupid"

    you wanted to get your little cheap shot sideline punch in but you didnt wanna get hit back

    cuz you a wimp
    thanosibe 1 day ago#59
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Same s*** both sides

    lolololol


    That's fine, I wasn't expecting a compelling argument for whichever side you're on anyway.
    Well no because this is a troll/bait thread. And the topic creator has no intention of engaging anyone in intelligent debate. Just lots of insults and s*** posting.
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    Vindris_SNH posted...
    So @FrenchCrunch 

    In the spirit of "explaining yourself", care to explain exactly why you think Republicans are worse than Democrats?

    Here's a nice breakdown that was posted earlier if you had actually read the topic
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    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#61
    thanosibe posted...
    Well no because this is a troll/bait thread. And the topic creator has no intention of engaging anyone in intelligent debate. Just lots of insults and s*** posting.

    not trolling
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Call it what you want, the reason I did it was because I didn't want to derail the thread. The whole point was to avoid the argument in order to avoid disrupting the thread. So yes, you're right I didn't make any sort of real argument in that case.

    you already challenged someone 2 or 3 times by referring to what they were saying as stupid

    then when they were like "bro are you ready for me to prove why what im saying isnt stupid" you were all like "nah i dont really care i just posted 6 times about it and called what you were saying stupid"

    you wanted to get your little cheap shot sideline punch in but you didnt wanna get hit back

    cuz you a wimp


    Are we talking about the same thread?
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    pinky0926 posted...
    https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/

    TL;DR - republicans voting against public interest, every time.


    Is this not enough to prove to everyone that republicans are absolute s***?
    Trololol
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#64
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Call it what you want, the reason I did it was because I didn't want to derail the thread. The whole point was to avoid the argument in order to avoid disrupting the thread. So yes, you're right I didn't make any sort of real argument in that case.

    you already challenged someone 2 or 3 times by referring to what they were saying as stupid

    then when they were like "bro are you ready for me to prove why what im saying isnt stupid" you were all like "nah i dont really care i just posted 6 times about it and called what you were saying stupid"

    you wanted to get your little cheap shot sideline punch in but you didnt wanna get hit back

    cuz you a wimp


    Are we talking about the same thread?

    yup
    DemonBuffet posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/

    TL;DR - republicans voting against public interest, every time.


    Is this not enough to prove to everyone that republicans are absolute s***?


    Not at all. All it proves is that Republicans and Democrats disagree on a lot of issues.
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    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    pinky0926 1 day ago#66
    DemonBuffet posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    https://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6brytw/justice_department_appoints_special_prosecutor/dhpcbdc/

    TL;DR - republicans voting against public interest, every time.


    Is this not enough to prove to everyone that republicans are absolute s***?


    but her emails
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#67
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Not at all. All it proves is that Republicans and Democrats disagree on a lot of issues.

    yea that's all it proves lolololol
    pinky0926 1 day ago#68
    Vindris_SNH posted...


    Not at all. All it proves is that Republicans and Democrats disagree on a lot of issues.


    Bulls***. It proves that republican politicians are voting for corporate overlords and lobbyists. I mean, is there anyone in the country with at least average intelligence who actually thinks that government should NOT be transparent, that people don't deserve a fair trail, that being educated on family planning and teen pregnancy is not a valuable thing, that the patriot act is a good thing? I read that even The_Donald supports net neutrality, but apparently the republican party does not.

    Read through the damn list and tell me that republican congressmen have your best interests at heart.
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    FrenchCrunch posted...
    yup


    Well then you sure are misrepresenting how the whole thing went down.
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    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    pinky0926 posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...


    Not at all. All it proves is that Republicans and Democrats disagree on a lot of issues.


    Bulls***. It proves that republican politicians are voting for corporate overlords and lobbyists. I mean, is there anyone in the country with at least average intelligence who actually thinks that government should NOT be transparent, that people don't deserve a fair trail, that being educated on family planning and teen pregnancy is not a valuable thing, that the patriot act is a good thing? I read that even The_Donald supports net neutrality, but apparently the republican party does not.

    Read through the damn list and tell me that republican congressmen have your best interests at heart.


    The numbers don't explain the reasoning and the heart behind why votes went a certain way.
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    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#71
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    The numbers don't explain the reasoning and the heart behind why votes went a certain way.

    what's the heart behind voting in favor of detaining us citizens without trial

    or not in favor of disclosing election funds

    or not in favor of education for teens
    Antifar 1 day ago#72
    Republicans are trash
    Democrats are better, but this is a very low bar, and I would not call them good.
    kin to all that throbs
    pinky0926 1 day ago#73
    Vindris_SNH posted...


    Bulls***. It proves that republican politicians are voting for corporate overlords and lobbyists. I mean, is there anyone in the country with at least average intelligence who actually thinks that government should NOT be transparent, that people don't deserve a fair trail, that being educated on family planning and teen pregnancy is not a valuable thing, that the patriot act is a good thing? I read that even The_Donald supports net neutrality, but apparently the republican party does not.

    Read through the damn list and tell me that republican congressmen have your best interests at heart.


    The numbers don't explain the reasoning and the heart behind why votes went a certain way.


    Which would be a fine point if we were picking out one bill in particular and trying to dissect how the bill might have worked. When you look at a list this large which represents a party's entire platform and realise that objectively, they are not putting anything forward that benefits people, and instead exhausting all of its efforts to benefit themselves and companies that seek to profit from relaxed legislation, you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them.

    I can appreciate your allegiances if you are someone who earns say, $90 million a year from your big pharma company. But even if you are a red blooded plumber from Utah I'm not sure what you're seeing on this list that is excusable. Because this has nothing to do with rhetoric or identity politics. It's voting records, plain and simple.
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    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    The numbers don't explain the reasoning and the heart behind why votes went a certain way.

    what's the heart behind voting in favor of detaining us citizens without trial

    or not in favor of disclosing election funds

    or not in favor of education for teens


    I don't know. I wasn't really involved in that process. Also, again I think you're doing a good bit of misrepresenting. I don't think Republicans are against education for teens.
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    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    Darkman124 1 day ago#75
    Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
    Vote Democrat

    Always vote Democrat

    Every time

    Dont boycott

    Dont stay home

    Dont vote green

    Dont let this happen again

    We'll pick Bernie next time


    also show up for the f***ing primary so bernie or a reasonable facsimile can win
    And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not.
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#76
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    I don't know. I wasn't really involved in that process. Also, again I think you're doing a good bit of misrepresenting. I don't think Republicans are against education for teens.

    why dont you think that
    pinky0926 posted...
    you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them


    I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party, and I never will.
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#78
    pinky0926 posted...
    you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them

    he's religious. theyre "religious"

    ipso facto theyre on his side
    coolboy11 1 day ago#79
    The Dems have Gays, Women, and too many black folks (along with a growing number of Latinos), that's pretty bad for a large chunk of flyover country (source I live in flyover country)
    Sigs are boring
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    I don't know. I wasn't really involved in that process. Also, again I think you're doing a good bit of misrepresenting. I don't think Republicans are against education for teens.

    why dont you think that


    Why the hell would anyone think Republicans are against education?

    I assume you've taken up this line of thinking because you read Republicans voted against "Teen Pregnancy Education Amendment". Do you know what an Amendment is? It is a change to the current law. Which means that whatever the change was to the current Teen Pregnancy Education program, the Republicans thought it wasn't a good change. Voting against that amendment doesn't mean they're voting against teen pregnancy education.

    Do you even know what was in that amendment? I'll admit that I don't. But it's just an amendment.
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    Waluigi7 1 day ago#81
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them


    I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party, and I never will.

    You defend Republicans in literally every topic.

    Just because you say it doesn't make it true.
    Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter
    -UnfairRepresent
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them

    he's religious. theyre "religious"

    ipso facto theyre on his side


    I've never once voted for someone because of religious reasons.
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    Waluigi7 posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    you have to wonder why your allegiances lie with them


    I have absolutely no allegiance to any political party, and I never will.

    You defend Republicans in literally every topic.

    Just because you say it doesn't make it true.


    I've bashed Trump so many times for being a jack ass. I've commended him when he's done something I agree with. You see, I don't take sides. I've praised Obama, I've criticized Obama. But it just so happens that Republicans tend to align more with the way I think. Not always. But certainly more often than Democrats.
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    Iwin2013 1 day ago#84
    pinky0926 posted...
    Caution999 posted...
    We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.


    Both sides are guilty of corruption, but one side is actively voting against public interest unanimously across the board. This is a fact, unless you happen to be against oversight, against transparency, against fair trial, pro teen pregnancy, anti family planning, against net neutrality, against affordable education, etc. etc. etc.

    It's not cherry picking. It's cherry harvesting.


    It's not affordable if taxes on the taxpayer is more than the high ratio of people who actually pass now. What is it with you dumbass Democrats. "Republicans vote against public interest, every single time!" It's not public interest when not everyone in the republic wants to be a leech, and use taxpayer money for BS socialist programs that don't help you, just hinder you. Have you ever met anyone who made it big off these programs? No. Hell, everyone on them are even more broke/poor. "BBBUUTTT THEY HELP PEOPLE." No, what helps people is teaching people a trade and making sure that they can get a job and learn to hold that job.
    #TheSmarkBrotherhood
    Vindris that is very sad, I hope one day you find the right path
    M.
    Balrog0 1 day ago#86
    Iwin2013 posted...
    Have you ever met anyone who made it big off these programs?


    off of a public education?

    uh, yeah
    He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor.
    Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
    Vindris that is very sad, I hope one day you find the right path


    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#88
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Which means that whatever the change was to the current Teen Pregnancy Education program, the Republicans thought it wasn't a good change

    why dont you look into this one issue amongst a litany of others
    Iwin2013 1 day ago#89
    Balrog0 posted...
    Iwin2013 posted...
    Have you ever met anyone who made it big off these programs?


    off of a public education?

    uh, yeah


    Graduations in certain states are in the slump.
    #TheSmarkBrotherhood
    pinky0926 1 day ago#90
    Iwin2013 posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    Caution999 posted...
    We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.


    Both sides are guilty of corruption, but one side is actively voting against public interest unanimously across the board. This is a fact, unless you happen to be against oversight, against transparency, against fair trial, pro teen pregnancy, anti family planning, against net neutrality, against affordable education, etc. etc. etc.

    It's not cherry picking. It's cherry harvesting.


    It's not affordable if taxes on the taxpayer is more than the high ratio of people who actually pass now. What is it with you dumbass Democrats. "Republicans vote against public interest, every single time!" It's not public interest when not everyone in the republic wants to be a leech, and use taxpayer money for BS socialist programs that don't help you, just hinder you. Have you ever met anyone who made it big off these programs? No. Hell, everyone on them are even more broke/poor. "BBBUUTTT THEY HELP PEOPLE." No, what helps people is teaching people a trade and making sure that they can get a job and learn to hold that job.


    There's a simple dichotomy here that doesn't reflect reality. "Big government = bad and hindering. Small government = innovation and freedom." That's how they justify the net neutrality debate. "We need to remove industry oversight, so that tech companies can innovate freely". That is actually how Ajit Pai justifies gutting net neutrality regulations. Do you actually believe that's how this will work out? Comcast is going to use all that regulatory freedom to make your internet experience better?

    You'll continue to gut every single failsafe in favour of the idea that you're freeing up money that will somehow go towards making people's lives better. It won't. All those dollars they'll save will go towards military spending. All the tax cuts will go to the 1%. There is no reality where all the "socialist programs" being repealed leads to people having more money in the pocket, unless the people we're talking about own a bank or an oil company. 

    Don't get me wrong, I understand that things don't work smoothly, and that programs get bloated and over-regulated. But the idea that you need to just remove them all and hope that the guys on the top rung will look out for your interests in the absence of any rules that hold them accountable is really f***ing naive.
    (edited 1 day ago)quote
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    Which means that whatever the change was to the current Teen Pregnancy Education program, the Republicans thought it wasn't a good change

    why dont you look into this one issue amongst a litany of others


    What a lame attempt at deflecting.

    I just hope people reading this thread got a clue as to how ignorant you are in your stances after you implied Republicans are against educating teens, simply because they disagreed with a minor change to current teen pregnancy education.

    Not only were you too lazy to read past a headline, but you also failed to comprehend the meaning of the headline itself.
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    (edited 1 day ago)quote
    FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#92
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    I just hope people reading this thread got a clue as to how ignorant you are in your stances after you implied Republicans are against educating teens, simply because they disagreed with a minor change to current teen pregnancy education.

    republicans are against education in general

    devos and trump

    "i love uneducated people" - president donald trump (R)
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    I just hope people reading this thread got a clue as to how ignorant you are in your stances after you implied Republicans are against educating teens, simply because they disagreed with a minor change to current teen pregnancy education.

    republicans are against education in general

    devos and trump

    "i love uneducated people" - president donald trump (R)


    lol
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
    Haldol 1 day ago#94
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Haldol posted...
    Both sides suck and play for the same team

    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Same s*** both sides

    lolololol

    I know. It's funny how they have people fooled into playing some bulls*** tribalistic game that really means f*** all instead of trying to unite as Americans.
    Iwin2013 1 day ago#95
    pinky0926 posted...
    Iwin2013 posted...
    pinky0926 posted...
    Caution999 posted...
    We're talking about how the DNC is corrupt. This is relevant to the topic at hand for proving my point.


    Both sides are guilty of corruption, but one side is actively voting against public interest unanimously across the board. This is a fact, unless you happen to be against oversight, against transparency, against fair trial, pro teen pregnancy, anti family planning, against net neutrality, against affordable education, etc. etc. etc.

    It's not cherry picking. It's cherry harvesting.


    It's not affordable if taxes on the taxpayer is more than the high ratio of people who actually pass now. What is it with you dumbass Democrats. "Republicans vote against public interest, every single time!" It's not public interest when not everyone in the republic wants to be a leech, and use taxpayer money for BS socialist programs that don't help you, just hinder you. Have you ever met anyone who made it big off these programs? No. Hell, everyone on them are even more broke/poor. "BBBUUTTT THEY HELP PEOPLE." No, what helps people is teaching people a trade and making sure that they can get a job and learn to hold that job.


    There's a simple dichotomy here that doesn't reflect reality. "Big government = bad and hindering. Small government = innovation and freedom." That's how they justify the net neutrality debate. "We need to remove industry oversight, so that tech companies can innovate freely". That is actually how Ajit Pai justifies gutting net neutrality regulations. Do you actually believe that's how this will work out? Comcast is going to use all that regulatory freedom to make your internet experience better?

    You'll continue to gut every single failsafe in favour of the idea that you're freeing up money that will somehow go towards making people's lives better. It won't. All those dollars they'll save will go towards military spending. All the tax cuts will go to the 1%. There is no reality where all the "socialist programs" being repealed leads to people having more money in the pocket, unless the people we're talking about own a bank or an oil company. 

    Don't get me wrong, I understand that things don't work smoothly, and that programs get bloated and over-regulated. But the idea that you need to just remove them all and hope that the guys on the top rung will look out for your interests in the absence of any rules that hold them accountable is really f***ing naive.


    Imagine being this f***ing naive. "The 1% don't f***ing care about you!" I'd rather my tax dollars go towards military spending than into education where some dimwit drops out cause "It's too hard" and not enough like the gender studies that he or she was taking prior. Military spending allots for: 

    -Careers. Yes, that's right, ladies and gentlemen, people get a job with the military. I know a job is a foreign concept to people who are liberal but they do exist.

    - Skills. Oh, you tell me that people actually LEARN A TRADE from being in the military? Oh my! That's fricking awesome.

    -Actual affordable education. Yes, you. Eating those cheetos. You can get free education. Actual FREE EDUCATION. Not something that makes you a mooch, something that you work hard for. All you have to do is serve your country.


    -Saves and Protects us from enemies foreign and domestic. Yes, I know that you liberals don't understand that 85% of the world hates us and would never try us, but live in the real world. 

    So there you have it, Military Spending is actually a very good thing for this country.
    #TheSmarkBrotherhood
    Iwin2013 1 day ago#96
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    I just hope people reading this thread got a clue as to how ignorant you are in your stances after you implied Republicans are against educating teens, simply because they disagreed with a minor change to current teen pregnancy education.

    republicans are against education in general

    devos and trump

    "i love uneducated people" - president donald trump (R)


    Wow, lol. What a scummy comment.
    #TheSmarkBrotherhood
    Samurontai 1 day ago#97
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


    Except he's not wrong
    Iwin2013 1 day ago#98
    Samurontai posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


    Except he's not wrong


    Oh he is.
    #TheSmarkBrotherhood
    Samurontai 1 day ago#99
    Iwin2013 posted...
    Samurontai posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


    Except he's not wrong


    Oh he is.


    Wow, such an amazing argument 

    Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

    AKA: Shut the f*** up
    Samurontai posted...
    Iwin2013 posted...
    Samurontai posted...
    Vindris_SNH posted...
    funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


    Except he's not wrong


    Oh he is.


    Wow, such an amazing argument 

    Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

    AKA: Shut the f*** up


    "He's not wrong"

    also a great argument
    glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
    ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
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      Iwin2013 1 day ago#101
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument
      #TheSmarkBrotherhood
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument


      Uh... that wasn't an argument? And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong?

      You literally called it s*** posting without saying anything in regards as to why it's s*** posting lmao. I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to argue with someone who isn't intent on arguing to begin with
      ITT: "My side is evil but your side is worst."
      I used to be a gamefaq poster like you until I took an arrow to my face.
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument


      Uh... that wasn't an argument? And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong?

      You literally called it s*** posting without saying anything in regards as to why it's s*** posting lmao. I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to argue with someone who isn't intent on arguing to begin with


      "He's not wrong" 

      is arguing that what the TC said was right, even though TC has yet to back up what he said with anything in this thread
      glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
      ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
      Iwin2013 1 day ago#105
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument


      Uh... that wasn't an argument? And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong?

      You literally called it s*** posting without saying anything in regards as to why it's s*** posting lmao. I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to argue with someone who isn't intent on arguing to begin with


      Don't forget that edgy lil third grade insult towards me..
      #TheSmarkBrotherhood
      thanosibe posted...
      Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
      FrenchCrunch posted...
      Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
      Same s*** both sides

      lolololol


      That's fine, I wasn't expecting a compelling argument for whichever side you're on anyway.
      Well no because this is a troll/bait thread. And the topic creator has no intention of engaging anyone in intelligent debate. Just lots of insults and s*** posting.


      Ah, okay then, silly me.
      Les aristocrates a la lanterne!
      Les aristocrates on les pendra!
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument


      Uh... that wasn't an argument? And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong?

      You literally called it s*** posting without saying anything in regards as to why it's s*** posting lmao. I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to argue with someone who isn't intent on arguing to begin with


      "He's not wrong" 

      is arguing that what the TC said was right, even though TC has yet to back up what he said with anything in this thread


      No it isn't arguing anything, its stating an opinion

      Gtfo with that s*** posting
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Iwin2013 posted...
      Samurontai posted...
      Vindris_SNH posted...
      funny how lazy TC was with this post and people are still taking him seriously


      Except he's not wrong


      Oh he is.


      Wow, such an amazing argument 

      Damn, I must concede in your favor now. You truly are the best debater on this board my friend!

      AKA: Shut the f*** up


      "He's not wrong"

      also a great argument


      Uh... that wasn't an argument? And I wasn't trying to prove you wrong?

      You literally called it s*** posting without saying anything in regards as to why it's s*** posting lmao. I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to argue with someone who isn't intent on arguing to begin with


      Don't forget that edgy lil third grade insult towards me..


      Irony
      gunplagirl posted...
      Yep. They still think punching Nazis is worse than being one tio

      "when was the last time a Nazi hurt someone?" -an actual argument I've heard on CE
      The Democratic Party is my party and I'm proud to be a part of it
      Vyrulisse 1 day ago#111
      You are extremely naive if you think the real power brokers on either side are not the same type of people.
      FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#112
      Vyrulisse posted...
      You are extremely naive if you think the real power brokers on either side are not the same type of people.

      LOLOLOL
      Vyrulisse 1 day ago#113
      FrenchCrunch posted...
      Vyrulisse posted...
      You are extremely naive if you think the real power brokers on either side are not the same type of people.

      LOLOLOL

      Nice retort. You're a joke and naive confirmed.
      FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#114
      Vyrulisse posted...
      FrenchCrunch posted...
      Vyrulisse posted...
      You are extremely naive if you think the real power brokers on either side are not the same type of people.

      LOLOLOL

      Nice retort. You're a joke and naive confirmed.

      FrenchCrunch posted...
      LOLOLOL
      Let's see, in the past couple days I've seen someone wish death on all Trump voters and I've seen someone wish that every family member of a trump supporter got terminal cancer and the Trump supporter had to watch them painfully die (which still hasn't been modded.) 

      So, uh, who's the bad side now?
      FrenchCrunch 1 day ago#116
      gatorsPENSbucs posted...
      So, uh, who's the bad side now?

      let's see

      some cringebeard liberals wish death on republicans

      or

      republican heads of state literally sentence people to death

      hmmm

      hmmm

      hmmm

      wonder which is worse tbh
      Freddie_Mercury posted...
      WKnzJpC


      This kind of chucklef*** logic is why there will always be extreme sides when politics is involved.
      You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?
      #118
      (message deleted)
      FrenchCrunch posted...
      republican heads of state literally sentence people to death

      Damn, im sure plenty of people were sentenced to death under democrats.
      https://s4.postimg.org/t5n0mg17h/bo161227_2.png
      And yet, they're the better party, because zero is greater than a negative number.
      pinky0926 1 day ago#121
      Iwin2013 posted...

      Imagine being this f***ing naive. "The 1% don't f***ing care about you!" I'd rather my tax dollars go towards military spending than into education where some dimwit drops out cause "It's too hard" and not enough like the gender studies that he or she was taking prior. Military spending allots for: 

      -Careers. Yes, that's right, ladies and gentlemen, people get a job with the military. I know a job is a foreign concept to people who are liberal but they do exist.

      - Skills. Oh, you tell me that people actually LEARN A TRADE from being in the military? Oh my! That's fricking awesome.

      -Actual affordable education. Yes, you. Eating those cheetos. You can get free education. Actual FREE EDUCATION. Not something that makes you a mooch, something that you work hard for. All you have to do is serve your country.


      -Saves and Protects us from enemies foreign and domestic. Yes, I know that you liberals don't understand that 85% of the world hates us and would never try us, but live in the real world. 

      So there you have it, Military Spending is actually a very good thing for this country.


      Hang on wait, I thought your argument was about gutting these programs to get tax cuts? Now it's gutting these programs to focus on military spending? So you admit that I'm right, and that your pocket will not get any heavier, the dollars will just shift to a different branch of government?

      But let's pretend that the military is a well oiled machine, and not literally the most over bloated and over beauracratic government wing. It's funny that your argument is about socialist programs being poorly managed when the military is easily the most wasteful with its budgets. Take it from Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense under Bush and Obama:
      This department simply cannot risk continuing down the same path – where our investment priorities, bureaucratic habits and lax attitude towards costs are increasingly divorced from the real threats of today, the growing perils of tomorrow and the nation's grim financial outlook.
      (edited 1 day ago)quote
      thanosibe 1 day ago#122
      thompsontalker7 posted...
      Freddie_Mercury posted...
      WKnzJpC


      This kind of chucklef*** logic is why there will always be extreme sides when politics is involved.
      Set aside that he's not just a s*** posting troll, and not really behind all the bile he posts, these kinds of attitudes are why partisan politics will always win and keep people divided. Because they have been conditioned to think for their team and their team only. Sad really. People have stopped thinking for themselves and have allowed a political party to think for them. Nothing but puppets.
      I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski
      SSJ-Spiderman 17 hours ago#123
      ElatedVenusaur posted...
      https://s4.postimg.org/t5n0mg17h/bo161227_2.png
      And yet, they're the better party, because zero is greater than a negative number.

      What was the point of this comic?
      FrenchCrunch 17 hours ago#124
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