July 14, 2017

Student's grade goes down for using 'mankind'

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HypnoCoosh 4 hours ago#1

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LightHawKnight 4 hours ago#2
She should go to a better school.
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lilORANG 4 hours ago#4
That's dumb. Mankind has a will established definition. It sounding kinda like "man" doesn't change that.

Itd be like banning the use of the word ladder because a lad is a boy.
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Gorbachev 4 hours ago#5
Girl looks like a dude
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ZCheveyo 4 hours ago#6
"Did you say 'I'm contesting this?'"

I think you mean to say "Did you tell her to go f*** herself and give you your damn point back?"
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eston 4 hours ago#7
bevan306 4 hours ago#8
Annihilated 4 hours ago#9
"Mankind." That word should have new meaning for all of us today.
>english major

never a good idea
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UnholyMudcrab  needs big 34 hours ago#11
This student's grade is more finished than Mankind was in 1998 after the Undertaker threw him off Hell in a Cell and he plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table
I'm still waiting for the day that leftists start crying referring to "male/female adapters" in cables, plumbing, etc. is sexist and oppressive.
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Doom_Art 4 hours ago#13
*sees Youtube video*

LOL

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HypnoCoosh 4 hours ago#14
DifferentialEquation posted...
I'm still waiting for the day that leftists start crying referring to "male/female adapters" in cables, plumbing, etc. is sexist and oppressive.


I could just see this... Standing outside the local home depot with signs "Plumbing fittings are gender neutral!!!"
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Tezlok 4 hours ago#15
They accused a girl of being sexist against women?
ZCheveyo 4 hours ago#16
UnholyMudcrab posted...
This student's grade is more finished than Mankind was in 1998 after the Undertaker threw him off Hell in a Cell and he plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table

....he came back after that o_O
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MI4 REAL 4 hours ago#17
Tezlok posted...
They accused a girl of being sexist against women?
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Godnorgosh 4 hours ago#18
This isn't news; my school would have done the same thing, and rightly so.
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Ivynn 4 hours ago#19
Godnorgosh posted...
and rightly so.


lol
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The Admiral 4 hours ago#21
I'm sure @COVxy will explain for us how this isolated incident #329874323 is in no way indicative of a general problem on college campuses.
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NibeIungsnarf 4 hours ago#22
lol, fox news
darkjedilink 3 hours ago#23
DifferentialEquation posted...
I'm still waiting for the day that leftists start crying referring to "male/female adapters" in cables, plumbing, etc. is sexist and oppressive.

Something similar to this actually happened to me - three mods on this board upheld a two-week suspension and 10KL for using the 'r-word' when talking about adjusting timing on an engine.

The 'r-word' is the word that you use.
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>she's an English major
>is surprised when she gets points deducted for not writing using the most up-to-date standards
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mattnd2007 3 hours ago#25
She should have followed the syllabus. No arguing that.

But it's concerning that stupid s*** like this is happening in the first place. Maybe. Just maybe stop pushing a stupid agenda and just educate.
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The Admiral 3 hours ago#26
LysistrataMedea posted...
>she's an English major
>is surprised when she gets points deducted for not writing using the most up-to-date standards


What "standards" are these? Leftist anti-gender indoctrination standards? Because "mankind" is certainly a valid word that was used properly in her paper.
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Clad 3 hours ago#28
The Admiral posted...
I'm sure @COVxy will explain for us how this isolated incident #329874323 is in no way indicative of a general problem on college campuses.


B-B-B-B-but you don't understand! It's not common at all!!!!
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The Admiral posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
>she's an English major
>is surprised when she gets points deducted for not writing using the most up-to-date standards


What "standards" are these? Leftist anti-gender indoctrination standards? Because "mankind" is certainly a valid word that was used properly in her paper.

in the context of academia, avoiding gendered language has been standard practice since the 90s. an English major, where writing is a focus, should be especially wise to that sensibility. i feel like you already know this, too.

but i'm not going to act like universities aren't a hub for leftist activity and thinking.
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Medz2017 3 hours ago#30
She is the reason why Trump is president
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Clad 3 hours ago#31
LysistrataMedea posted...
in the context of academia, avoiding gendered language has been standard practice since the 90s.


sources?
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The Admiral 3 hours ago#32
LysistrataMedea posted...

in the context of academia, avoiding gendered language has been standard practice since the 90s. an English major, where writing is a focus, should be especially wise to that sensibility. i feel like you already know this, too.


I know you're full of s***, because I was an English minor and this garbage never came up once.
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NibeIungsnarf 3 hours ago#33
lmao @ Tucker Carlson randomly deciding that this issue wasn't interesting enough so he needed to bring up hijabs and sharia law before the segment ended.
Gojak_v3 3 hours ago#35
lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.
Clad posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
in the context of academia, avoiding gendered language has been standard practice since the 90s.


sources?

http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/gender-inclusive-language/

EDIT: here's another one http://wmich.edu/writing/genderbias

most of the Chicago Style Guide information is behind a paywall, so I can't immediately point to that. but if you pick up a fairly recent academic text book, you're more like to see 'she' or 'humanity' instead of 'he, man' like idk if you want a literal picture of this in action

The Admiral posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...

in the context of academia, avoiding gendered language has been standard practice since the 90s. an English major, where writing is a focus, should be especially wise to that sensibility. i feel like you already know this, too.


I know you're full of s***, because I was an English minor and this garbage never came up once.

honestly i don't think it would have been a big issue at my school either, but i'm just saying it's not an unreasnable expectation
don't worry, it ain't about me cuz
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lilORANG 3 hours ago#37
LysistrataMedea posted...
you're more like to see 'she'

that is gendered language....
lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
you're more like to see 'she'

that is gendered language....

i think the standard practice is to use 'she' for one paragraph and then 'he' for the next, so on etc
don't worry, it ain't about me cuz
i don't let misfortune bend me all outta shape
Darkman124 3 hours ago#39
Gojak_v3 posted...
lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.


this happened on a college campus

it has nothing to do with charter schools whatsoever and it is incredibly disingenuous of you to suggest there is a connection to public high schools because there is not
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lilORANG 3 hours ago#40
LysistrataMedea posted...
lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
you're more like to see 'she'

that is gendered language....

i think the standard practice is to use 'she' for one paragraph and then 'he' for the next, so on etc

in law casebooks the standard is to make judges and scientists female and criminals and deadbeats male.
IllegalAlien 3 hours ago#41
The Admiral posted...
I'm sure @COVxy will explain for us how this isolated incident #329874323 is in no way indicative of a general problem on college campuses.

How is it not an isolated incident lol... grading is arbitrary as f*** and she only took off 1 point. I've taken off way more points for using poor variable names in programs, which is equivalent to "style" which is what she lost points for.
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The Admiral 3 hours ago#42
LysistrataMedea posted...
http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/gender-inclusive-language/


Gendered noun --Gender-neutral noun
freshman --first-year student
man-made --machine-made, synthetic, artificial
the common man --the average person
chairman -- chair, chairperson, coordinator, head
mailman --mail carrier, letter carrier, postal worker
policeman --police officer
steward, stewardess --flight attendant
actor, actress --actor
congressman --legislator, congressional representative


Half of these are nonsense.
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lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
you're more like to see 'she'

that is gendered language....

i think the standard practice is to use 'she' for one paragraph and then 'he' for the next, so on etc

in law casebooks the standard is to make judges and scientists female and criminals and deadbeats male.

does this trigger you?
don't worry, it ain't about me cuz
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The Admiral posted...
Half of these are nonsense.

well that's just, like, your opinion, man
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Clad 3 hours ago#45
LysistrataMedea posted...

http://writingcenter.unc.edu/handouts/gender-inclusive-language/

EDIT: here's another one http://wmich.edu/writing/genderbias

most of the Chicago Style Guide information is behind a paywall, so I can't immediately point to that. but if you pick up a fairly recent academic text book, you're more like to see 'she' or 'humanity' instead of 'he, man' like idk if you want a literal picture of this in action


sounds like you cherrypicked some useless bulls*** from whichever garbage school you could scrape from google's search results lmfao

i don't think any sane person actually cares about the usage of mankind vs humanity to the point of being offended by the former
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Clad posted...
sounds like you cherrypicked some useless bulls*** from whichever garbage school you could scrape from google's search results lmfao

i don't think any sane person actually cares about the usage of mankind vs humanity to the point of being offended by the former

here's an MLA style guide: http://www.mlanet.org/page/mla-style-manual-names-and-terms

"NOTE: MLA’s Board of Directors approved the following motion at their 1994 post–annual meeting meeting: “MOVED, that the MLA Board of Directors adopt a policy of non-gender-specific language according to CMS14, pages 76–8 (2.98) for all of MLA’s documentation, publications, and communications, effective June 1, 1994.”"

>1994
discussion over, i'm going to work now
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lilORANG 3 hours ago#47
LysistrataMedea posted...
lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
lilORANG posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
you're more like to see 'she'

that is gendered language....

i think the standard practice is to use 'she' for one paragraph and then 'he' for the next, so on etc

in law casebooks the standard is to make judges and scientists female and criminals and deadbeats male.

does this trigger you?

No, I think it's hilarious. Especially since there is usually a disclaimer at the beginning saying something like "the use of 'he' and 'she' is randomized throughout this casebook"

it's totally not random lol.
Drpooplol 3 hours ago#48
The Admiral posted...
congressman -- congressional representative

People want me to triple my syllabic output in the name of achieving gender neutral standards? No thanks.
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Sativa_Rose 3 hours ago#49
I didn't watch, but it's sad how education is all about the grades and not the learning these days.
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Gojak_v3 3 hours ago#50
Darkman124 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.


this happened on a college campus

it has nothing to do with charter schools whatsoever and it is incredibly disingenuous of you to suggest there is a connection to public high schools because there is not


Fair enough, I did not watch the video. But s*** like this does happen at the lower level so it's not disingenuous at all had that been the case. At any rate this is still funny as nonsense happens at colleges all the time, so still lmao at schools in America.
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    Darkman124 3 hours ago#51
    Gojak_v3 posted...


    Fair enough, I did not watch the video. But s*** like this does happen at the lower level


    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nyhan/nyhan-reifler.pdf
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    Gojak_v3 3 hours ago#52
    Darkman124 posted...
    Gojak_v3 posted...


    Fair enough, I did not watch the video. But s*** like this does happen at the lower level


    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nyhan/nyhan-reifler.pdf


    Yeah yer gonna need to tldr that it's 50 pages...

    If yer trying to say the beliefs are incorrect based on politics all you need to do is google "failing schools" or something along those lines. There is a reason for it.
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    NibeIungsnarf 3 hours ago#53
    Gojak_v3 posted...
    Yeah yer gonna need to tldr that it's 50 pages...

    Why?

    Didn't stop you from having an opinion when it was just a three minute video
    Darkman124 3 hours ago#54
    Gojak_v3 posted...

    Yeah yer gonna need to tldr that it's 50 pages...


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    Gojak_v3 3 hours ago#55
    Darkman124 posted...
    Gojak_v3 posted...

    Yeah yer gonna need to tldr that it's 50 pages...


    nGbsvP2


    Holy s*** dude. Google failing public schools. This is not some myth. All yer doing is s*** posting now. All I asked for was a tldr and you post that bulls***. Also you have literally posted no facts.
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    COVxy 3 hours ago#56
    IllegalAlien posted...
    The Admiral posted...
    I'm sure @COVxy will explain for us how this isolated incident #329874323 is in no way indicative of a general problem on college campuses.

    How is it not an isolated incident lol... grading is arbitrary as f*** and she only took off 1 point. I've taken off way more points for using poor variable names in programs, which is equivalent to "style" which is what she lost points for.


    Indeed, I'm sure what I would say is something closer to:
    "Who the f*** cares about 1 point? Step back and get a little perspective. Your outrage is not proportionate to the event and is nothing more than partisan drivel."
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    we are mankind


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    Gojak_v3 2 hours ago#58
    http://www.heritage.org/education/report/education-statistics

    According to the 2000 NAEP assessments, only 32 percent of 4th graders are proficient in reading, while a dismal 26 percent are proficient in mathematics, 29 percent in science, and 18 percent in history. Proficiency rates decline by the 12th grade in most subjects. Over half of all poor students fail to reach the basic level on NAEP assessments in most subjects.[1]

    In 1998, 71 percent of students graduated on-time from high school. Just over half of minority students graduated.

    Over the past 30 years, average per-pupil expenditures for public elementary and secondary schools have nearly doubled, rising from $3,367 in 1970 to $6,584 in 2000 in constant dollars.[8]
    The average private school tuition nationwide, according to a 1996 Cato Institute study, was $3,116, with 67 percent of all private elementary and secondary schools charging $2,500 or less.[9]
    Total K-12 federal, state, and local spending for Education, both public and private, climbed to over $420 billion for the 2000-2001 school year.[10]


    Over half of all public schools reported a criminal incident to the police. Incidents ranged from fistfights, theft, or vandalism to serious violent crimes. 10 percent of schools reported serious violent crimes.[21]

    @Darkman124 But no, it's just bulls*** I spout based on political bias. Seriously yer usually better than this. Don't know why you went full s*** post and arrogant.
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    Maybe people should write adamkind in papers instead of mankind
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    Giant_Aspirin 2 hours ago#60
    Gojak_v3 posted...
    lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.


    that has literally nothing ter do with the topic at hand, this happened at thur university level, whur students r DEFINITELY free ter choose whur they go.
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    Haldol 2 hours ago#61
    I'm sure if she said womankind, she would have gotten a perfect score
    Haldol 2 hours ago#62
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    Gojak_v3 posted...
    lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.


    that has literally nothing ter do with the topic at hand, this happened at thur university level, whur students r DEFINITELY free ter choose whur they go.

    Trumpanzees will shoehorn their God into any topic no matter what
    Gojak_v3 2 hours ago#63
    Haldol posted...
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    Gojak_v3 posted...
    lmao schools in America. And the left wants to prevent charter schools and school choice.


    that has literally nothing ter do with the topic at hand, this happened at thur university level, whur students r DEFINITELY free ter choose whur they go.

    Trumpanzees will shoehorn their God into any topic no matter what


    irony lmao talk about shoehorning. I never even mentioned Trump. I guess liberals will shoehorn anything to be about Trump so they don't have to actually address issues.
    Clad 14 minutes ago#64
    The Admiral posted...
    I'm sure @COVxy will explain for us how this isolated incident #329874323 is in no way indicative of a general problem on college campuses.


    @COVxy
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