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the answer to people failing at grasping basic math is not to do away with it as a requirement, it is to figure out how to educate these people more effectively. algebra is not hard and essential for logical deduction and problem solving. it is kind of offensive to say just do away with it tbh
they guy that thinks music is more essential than math is a joke tbhI am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-FubonisLets lower standards some more...This is all wrong. Statistics--even at a basic level--requires algebra; replacing an onerous things by something that requires you to have taken the thing you think is too hard is not an improvement. Colleges are not trade schools and there is an expectation that you'll receive education in more than just one area. If you demand that education get you some kind of basic job and only give you barest essentials, a trade school is what you are looking for and that's fine. Speaking of degrees in general, they prove that you can stick with something for at least a couple of years, that you've tried to better yourself professionally, and that you are flexible and intelligent enough to learn to do basic coursework in a number of areas.
That last point is key. Most jobs today aren't static: you'll eventually be asked to do things you don't like that you know nothing about and might not be any good at to start. Ignoring the fact that generals really can be a great way to broaden your horizons or try out something you've always wanted to while getting a degree, they unquestionably prove you can suck it up and do something unfamiliar at a basic level.
It is not the case that everyone should be able to get even a basic degree simply because they need one to be more competitive in the job market. If everyone can get a degree, they cease to have any value. More over, algebra isn't some kind of hardcore subject that weeds people out. College algebra is the equivalent in math of a basic writing class---passing it proves you can at least do something, and no adult should have much trouble (except for learning disabilities, which can be tested for and are accommodated as per the ADA) at least getting a C. In my state, the community college system offers a number of lesser classes to help you get up to speed in case you missed the boat entirely when you were in school.
What they should do is look at the classes, how they are taught, and what resources they make available for students. Improvements can likely be made. But at some point, the student can either perform at a basic level or they don't deserve the degree.Most college math is really easy.
To people who say "All you need is pemdas!" Well, that is the point. You can pass college algebra, calculus, trig and stats with just PEMDAS and a few factorial rules. In just about every college class, they let you use technology to solve the problems, but even if you couldn't, the formulas aren't hard, they just require memorization.
The problem is that the way teachers teach math is all wrong. They may teach 1+1 = 2, but not explain what that means. That goes all the way up to the quadratic formula and central limit theorem. Pretty much all equations are a direct relation to estimated addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. In fact, once you start getting into the harder college classes they allow a range of answers because you can't get an exact answer. If you twist numbers enough, they lose their concrete meaning as numbers.
I think high intelligence is required to come up with mathematic and scientific formulas, but to actually do them? You can be dumb as bricks. It's a simple matter of arranging elements into a given formula. If you can measure a cup of flour to bake a cake, you can do math, you just need to get your brain oriented to the rules. It isn't hard at all.
Part of the problem is that math is both an opinion, an invented structure, and a changing formula. When students ask "why?" it's hard to come up with a concrete answer as a teacher because it only makes logical sense in real world application. If you cut something in half you know it's been divided into two, so why do teachers spend an entire year teaching division?Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 21 hours ago)A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousI can't believe that liberal trolls here are actually arguing about the neccesity of algebra.GO KNICKS!!!AndreLeGeant posted...A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
And because they don't understand math well, when I offer them 900 per pay period, they think they're getting a much better deal than they really are.Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
Currently Listening To: Ondore's LiesAndreLeGeant posted...A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
I hear pretending to be a lawyer that makes six figures pays great.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Funkx posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
I hear pretending to be a lawyer that makes six figures pays great.
I don't pretend. But I also grew up on food stamps. Had a drug addict for a dad. Had a mom with a GED and some community college. I know people who need a degree to jobs, but can't get even the time to get that degree, much less the time to improve on a poor math background.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...Funkx posted...
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A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
I hear pretending to be a lawyer that makes six figures pays great.
I don't pretend. But I also grew up on food stamps. Had a drug addict for a dad. Had a mom with a GED and some community college. I know people who need a degree to jobs, but can't get even the time to get that degree, much less the time to improve on a poor math background.
You are a truly sad person.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.battourye posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
And because they don't understand math well, when I offer them 900 per pay period, they think they're getting a much better deal than they really are.
Not even a prostitute or a mcdonald's employee would think that, try again.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.SamCarlson posted...SSj4Wingzero posted...
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First of all, we've seen in the data from many of the pilots across the country that are using alternative math pathways — that are just as rigorous as an algebra course — we've seen much greater success for students because many of these students can relate to these different kinds of math depending on which program of study they're in.
Good so you're saying that Algebra isn't too difficult
im saying if algebra is not needed for the degree, and its preventing people from graduating, why force these people to fail?
Getting a college degree is more than just about being able to do one particular job. Even associates degrees should give someone a well rounded education. The exception may be technical degrees in a trade skill.If you build a man a fire, he is warm for the rest of the night.
If you set a man on fire, he is warm for the rest of his life.Funkx posted...battourye posted...
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A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
And because they don't understand math well, when I offer them 900 per pay period, they think they're getting a much better deal than they really are.
Not even a prostitute or a mcdonald's employee would think that, try again.
Oh really? Its an old trick, you up the number and up the amount and it sounds better and better. You never say for instance that "If we don't fix our roads, then that could cost you less than a dollar a day", you say "Over a year it can cost you over $300". You don't offer $12 an hour, you offer $25,000 a year. Bigger numbers are bigger in people's head no matter the fine print.Fools think there are good and bad guys in intl. relations.-Terran
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A lot of people have never been poor and lacking in education it seems. People want jobs. They don't want to do math. They don't want STEM degrees. They want a job that pays a living wage. They want $15-20 per hour and benefits.
And because they don't understand math well, when I offer them 900 per pay period, they think they're getting a much better deal than they really are.
Not even a prostitute or a mcdonald's employee would think that, try again.
Oh really? Its an old trick, you up the number and up the amount and it sounds better and better. You never say for instance that "If we don't fix our roads, then that could cost you less than a dollar a day", you say "Over a year it can cost you over $300". You don't offer $12 an hour, you offer $25,000 a year. Bigger numbers are bigger in people's head no matter the fine print.
Maybe to get them to come in for an interview, but they're not going to accept less pay because you sell it in bigger numbers. I wouldn't even hire someone stupid enough to not be able to do that math.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 20 hours ago)Orange Clockwork posted...SamCarlson posted...
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First of all, we've seen in the data from many of the pilots across the country that are using alternative math pathways — that are just as rigorous as an algebra course — we've seen much greater success for students because many of these students can relate to these different kinds of math depending on which program of study they're in.
Good so you're saying that Algebra isn't too difficult
im saying if algebra is not needed for the degree, and its preventing people from graduating, why force these people to fail?
Getting a college degree is more than just about being able to do one particular job. Even associates degrees should give someone a well rounded education. The exception may be technical degrees in a trade skill.
Getting an associate's in one field, a bachelor's in another and a master's in a third technically triples your employment opportunities.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Most people want their pay broken down by the hour. More people here that have never interacted with anyone working class.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...Most people want their pay broken down by the hour. More people here that have never interacted with anyone working class.
Yeah, the working class can't divide a number by 40.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Funkx posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
Most people want their pay broken down by the hour. More people here that have never interacted with anyone working class.
Yeah, the working class can't divide a number by 40.
Sure they can. But they apply for jobs based on them being $X per hour. That's how jobs are posted if they are hourly.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord Sideousdarkmaian23 posted...This is all wrong. Statistics--even at a basic level--requires algebra; replacing an onerous things by something that requires you to have taken the thing you think is too hard is not an improvement.
Statistics is entirely algebra. I'm trying to think of one thing in elementary statistics that isn't. I suppose the actual reading of histograms and charts isn't, but that's just the stuff to introduce you to the math side of it.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.AndreLeGeant posted...Funkx posted...
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Most people want their pay broken down by the hour. More people here that have never interacted with anyone working class.
Yeah, the working class can't divide a number by 40.
Sure they can. But they apply for jobs based on them being $X per hour. That's how jobs are posted if they are hourly.
In that case you would simply multiply the amount by 40. I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.aarrgus posted...Orange Clockwork posted...
To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra. 3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did. 2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
I never used 3x = 25.
25/3 is not an Algebra problem. Do you not understand what Algebra is?
How did you know to do 25/3?
Guys, I figured out the problem, people do algebra and don't even realize they are doing it.
Algebra is solving backwards. That is exactly what you did.
If I told you to do 25/3, then that is just basic math.
But when he told you the problem, and then you pulled that equation from it, YOU JUST DID THE ALGEBRA IN YOUR HEAD. Congrats. You are so good at basic algebra you don't even think about it.As I was walking up the stairs, I met a man who wasn't there, he wasn't there again today, i wish I wish he'd go away
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To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra. 3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did. 2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
I never used 3x = 25.
25/3 is not an Algebra problem. Do you not understand what Algebra is?
How did you know to do 25/3?
Guys, I figured out the problem, people do algebra and don't even realize they are doing it.
Algebra is solving backwards. That is exactly what you did.
If I told you to do 25/3, then that is just basic math.
But when he told you the problem, and then you pulled that equation from it, YOU JUST DID THE ALGEBRA IN YOUR HEAD. Congrats. You are so good at basic algebra you don't even think about it.
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To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra. 3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did. 2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
I never used 3x = 25.
25/3 is not an Algebra problem. Do you not understand what Algebra is?
How did you know to do 25/3?
Guys, I figured out the problem, people do algebra and don't even realize they are doing it.
Algebra is solving backwards. That is exactly what you did.
If I told you to do 25/3, then that is just basic math.
But when he told you the problem, and then you pulled that equation from it, YOU JUST DID THE ALGEBRA IN YOUR HEAD. Congrats. You are so good at basic algebra you don't even think about it.
It is that stupid easy, right? Problem is, a lot of high school drop outs didn't even get to that point. Public schools are extremely dysfunctional and it's very hard to learn math in such disruptive environments. I had to drop out of school in 8th grade and I taught myself all of it based on Youtube and Khan Academy videos. Once you understand it, it's stupid simple, but it really kind of has to be explained. You can't really intuitively pick up on math without getting a headache because there are too many of the permutations of the symbols to consider.
I should add that ALL math is easy. Theorems and formulas are just extensions of the basic mathematical symbols you already understand (often the greek letters are just acting to define those things in new ways in relation to other things.) Tedious? Yes. That's why you need a scientific calculator for some of it. Not because it's hard, but because squaring ten different numbers and then dividing them by n is f***ing tedious. Math is f***ing tedious, but it is not hard by any means.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 20 hours ago)Siaperaz posted...I can't believe that liberal trolls here are actually arguing about the neccesity of algebra.
For a college degree? I would hope so.
I am not sure I can say someone is college educated but they can't do basic math. ( Yes, algebra is basic math. I took Algebra in 7th grade.)As I was walking up the stairs, I met a man who wasn't there, he wasn't there again today, i wish I wish he'd go away
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To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra. 3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did. 2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
I never used 3x = 25.
25/3 is not an Algebra problem. Do you not understand what Algebra is?
How did you know to do 25/3?
Guys, I figured out the problem, people do algebra and don't even realize they are doing it.
Algebra is solving backwards. That is exactly what you did.
If I told you to do 25/3, then that is just basic math.
But when he told you the problem, and then you pulled that equation from it, YOU JUST DID THE ALGEBRA IN YOUR HEAD. Congrats. You are so good at basic algebra you don't even think about it.
yzman posted...aarrgus posted...
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To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra. 3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did. 2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
I never used 3x = 25.
25/3 is not an Algebra problem. Do you not understand what Algebra is?
How did you know to do 25/3?
Guys, I figured out the problem, people do algebra and don't even realize they are doing it.
Algebra is solving backwards. That is exactly what you did.
If I told you to do 25/3, then that is just basic math.
But when he told you the problem, and then you pulled that equation from it, YOU JUST DID THE ALGEBRA IN YOUR HEAD. Congrats. You are so good at basic algebra you don't even think about it.
It is that stupid easy, right? Problem is, a lot of high school drop outs didn't even get to that point. Public schools are extremely dysfunctional and it's very hard to learn math in such disruptive environments. I had to drop out of school in 8th grade and I taught myself all of it based on Youtube and Khan Academy videos. Once you understand it, it's stupid simple, but it really kind of has to be explained. You can't really intuitively pick up on math without getting a headache because there are too many of the permutations of the symbols to consider.
Oh, I totally agree. I have tutored in math. Lots of people take a while to get it, mostly because they just don't understand the principle. I like to relate it to real world things, and suddenly it makes all the sense in the world.
But to get rid of Algebra for a college degree is idiotic to me.
May as well say, lots of people fail Organic chemistry, we should remove it for the course for doctors, chemical engineers etc
Lowering requirements doesn't improve society. How about we learn how to teach the subject better? Most teachers suck.As I was walking up the stairs, I met a man who wasn't there, he wasn't there again today, i wish I wish he'd go away
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I can't believe that liberal trolls here are actually arguing about the neccesity of algebra.
For a college degree? I would hope so.
I am not sure I can say someone is college educated but they can't do basic math. ( Yes, algebra is basic math. I took Algebra in 7th grade.)
I mean all math is basic math. It's just an infrastructural extension of the basic mathematic rules. I find it very ironic, actually, that people on a video game message board are arguing against learning math. Pretty much every video game you've ever played is a piece of math with graphics slapped onto it.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.We aren't talking about future video game programmersI don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousLowering requirements doesn't improve society. How about we learn how to teach the subject better? Most teachers suck.
It was funny for me because I went most of my life feeling stupid for not understanding it. I spent a full month studying it every day and now it is second nature. Once it actually "clicks" that you understand all of the rules it is symbiotic with logical thinking. Some colleges have "liberal arts math" that you can take instead of college algebra, but most science degrees require algebra, calc or stats. Chem is also heavily based around algebra, so the entire health sciences field as well.
I was just in a public school that was so dysfunctional that I couldn't learn anything. I had a teacher actually pull five students into the back of the class and teach to them quietly while the other kids just yelled and screeched like animals.
Both a complete waste of taxpayer money and disruptive to the students that are willing to learn.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 20 hours ago)AndreLeGeant posted...We aren't talking about future video game programmers
I have to use math to beat hard video games all the time. There are frequently combination/permutation problems, area problems and timing problems. Math helps more than anything else to beat most video games.
It's not that you CAN'T beat video games without math, but you are basically in an infinite monkey/typewriter situation when you are forced to guess random values in a game.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Funkx posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
We aren't talking about future video game programmers
I have to use math to beat hard video games all the time. There are frequently combination/permutation problems, area problems and timing problems. Math helps more than anything else to beat most video games.
It's not that you CAN'T beat video games without math, but you are basically in an infinite monkey/typewriter situation when you are forced to guess random values in a game.
You aren't doing quadratic equations and algebra to beat a video game. You're just watching and reacting like you would to real events if you were a caveman, except you can engage in trial and error.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...Funkx posted...
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We aren't talking about future video game programmers
I have to use math to beat hard video games all the time. There are frequently combination/permutation problems, area problems and timing problems. Math helps more than anything else to beat most video games.
It's not that you CAN'T beat video games without math, but you are basically in an infinite monkey/typewriter situation when you are forced to guess random values in a game.
You aren't doing quadratic equations and algebra to beat a video game. You're just watching and reacting like you would to real events if you were a caveman, except you can engage in trial and error.
You are doing algebra and calculus frequently in video games.
If you only get three lives to beat a game, and the game gives an extra life every 500 points + 500 points, then you need to do x+500 for each additional life you will need to earn to beat the game.
If you have four paths to choose in Zelda and you don't know which order to select them, you have a 4!C4! problem. In which case you know that 4*3*2*1 = 24 total choices of paths to select from. I had to do this while playing a Zelda hack recently because it was unfinished and I could only beat it by creating a combinaton problem.
In an RPG your strength stat increases 100-1 for each additional level that you gain. What level will you have to reach in order to max that stat out?
I remember in Halo 3 online I had to estimate the damage counters for every weapon to reach the max level. I had it written down as a formula because each weapon and the melee attack had specific values that had to be coordinated to the amount of time required to express it in damage per second.
These are just four of thousands of examples of math in games. Yet probability calculations can exist in all video games.
Most people cannot beat very difficult video games because they require calculations such as these. That you play them like a caveman mashing buttons just means you suck at them.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)People don't do what you describe the way you describe it. You are just trying to use various maths to describe normal intuition. You can do that. But obviously people aren't working out problems and they aren't taking their video game experience and applying it to more complex problems. Whereas if you used calculus to address problems arising in video games, you could also move to harder problems not present in the games.
And again. People are struggling with Algebra I. They want jobs. They don't want to have some nerd online talking about how his favorite video games can be turned into calculus problems. They don't want to hear how awesome you think math is. They want to make $20 an hour, get their kid braces, have a fairly new low cost car, etc.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...People don't do what you describe the way you describe it. You are just trying to use various maths to describe normal intuition. You can do that. But obviously people aren't working out problems and they aren't taking their video game experience and applying it to more complex problems. Whereas if you used calculus to address problems arising in video games, you could also move to harder problems not present in the games.
Uh, no. I don't think you understand math. It is all based around those rules. "Normal intuition" = just because it is not written as a formula doesn't make it any less math. In fact if you open up any RPG strategy guide and look at the damage value pages they are almost identical to the t-distribution and z-score pages in statistics. You can get by in video games with guesswork, but you will suck at them more. It is math any way you want to rationalize it.
That flipping a coin three times is a binomial distribution doesn't change anything about the fundamental rules or make it more or less hard, even if you can understand it intuitively.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)AndreLeGeant posted...And again. People are struggling with Algebra I. They want jobs. They don't want to have some nerd online talking about how his favorite video games can be turned into calculus problems. They don't want to hear how awesome you think math is. They want to make $20 an hour, get their kid braces, have a fairly new low cost car, etc.
I love how you jump to this nonsense rhetoric, as though it's even relevant at all.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.What you call "guesswork" is how most people play. You are coming off as the world's biggest sheltered nerd right now. I am talking about people who are currently forced to get through a level of math they don't need so they can break free of minimum wage jobs. You are talking about how you can apply math to video games. As I said I dare say you have never met a poor person.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...What you call "guesswork" is how most people play. You are coming off as the world's biggest sheltered nerd right now. I am talking about people who are currently forced to get through a level of math they don't need so they can break free of minimum wage jobs. You are talking about how you can apply math to video games. As I said I dare say you have never met a poor person.
Whether that's how they play or not is their personal choice. But I know in very hard games that a lot of people can't beat, mathematical reasoning is extremely important. Hand-eye coordination is important as well, but the fact of the matter is that the underlying basis for all video games is mathematical programming.
I come from a background of extreme poverty, you pretend to be a lawyer on the internet. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)You managed to have a lot of video games to be from extreme poverty. And I don't pretend to be lawyer.
You're a nerd with no concept of reality, talking about Zelda when people want to be able to have a f***ing job.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousOrange Clockwork posted...aarrgus posted...
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Consider these examples: It's time to fill up your car's gas tank. The price of gas per gallon is $3 and you only have $25 to spend. How much gas can you purchase? This can be answered by the algebraic equation, 3x = 25. You must divide each side of the equation by 3 in order to isolate x. In this equation, x is equal to 25 divided by 3, which is 8.33 gallons of gas. If you need 10 gallons of gas, how much money do you need? When you solve that equation, you have algebra to thank!
Oh man... how in the world could you solve these without Algebra?
Oh yea $25/3 and 10*$3. Division and multiplication...
You used Algebra to demonstrate why you don't need Algebra? Division and multiplying are tools used in Algebra.
So is addition. Are you saying 2+2 is Algebra? Because Algebra is more than just +-*/.
You just solved for X with your $25/3 equation. That is an algebra problem.
How is 2+2 alone an algebra problem?
I listed 25/3 and 3*10. Neither is a solve for X.
To even get to the point where you know you need to divide by 3 that takes a basic understanding of Algebra.
3x = 25 means you divide 25 by 3, which is what you just did.
2 + x = 4 is also an Algebra problem.
WHAT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE:
You give your $25 to the gas attendant or cashier and you or an attendent fills up gas in your car and it will continue till it hits $25.
$25 is typically enough for most cars and will get most people to their destination.
NO ALGEBRA REQUIRED!!!! NO MATH EQUATIONS REQUIRED!!!!
As long as you can count money and make sure you have $25 in your hand, you are good.I want my Earthbound!!!(edited 19 hours ago)AndreLeGeant posted...You managed to have a lot of video games to be from extreme poverty. And I don't pretend to be lawyer.
You're a nerd with no concept of reality, talking about Zelda when people want to be able to have a f***ing job.
I worked hard, became successful, and didn't trust anyone enough to get hinged to debt.
I'm not sure what you're blathering about. Tons of poor people owned/rented video games.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Actually you just slide your card.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousSamCarlson posted...PraetorXyn posted...
This is why we're drug down by the first two years of college rehashing things taught in high school.
ah yes, the problem is *those* idiots.
Hey, whoa, hold on man. This is about education, not about drugs.
The party's always better with Gordon FreeGin around.Funkx posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
You managed to have a lot of video games to be from extreme poverty. And I don't pretend to be lawyer.
You're a nerd with no concept of reality, talking about Zelda when people want to be able to have a f***ing job.
I worked hard, became successful, and didn't trust anyone enough to get hinged to debt.
I'm not sure what you're blathering about. Tons of poor people owned/rented video games.
Consoles are pretty pricy. Prettt expensive for someone in extreme poverty anyway. Maybe you want to walk back your level of poverty?
And you're talking about Zelda at a time when people need food and jobs. It shows that you're just totally out of touch.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousI agree. Why even have a fuel gauge on cars? It should just be a big blinking light that says "CAR NEEDS OILY STUFF GO GET SOME $"Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.Funkx posted...I agree. Why even have a fuel gauge on cars? It should just be a big blinking light that says "CAR NEEDS OILY STUFF GO GET SOME $"
That's how people do their oil... and it's how many do their gas. They fill up when it goes on empty.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousIt is funny how many people show up in this topic to argue Americans need to be stupider.The internet, where people come to be a dumbass.AndreLeGeant posted...Funkx posted...
AndreLeGeant posted...
You managed to have a lot of video games to be from extreme poverty. And I don't pretend to be lawyer.
You're a nerd with no concept of reality, talking about Zelda when people want to be able to have a f***ing job.
I worked hard, became successful, and didn't trust anyone enough to get hinged to debt.
I'm not sure what you're blathering about. Tons of poor people owned/rented video games.
Consoles are pretty pricy. Prettt expensive for someone in extreme poverty anyway. Maybe you want to walk back your level of poverty?
And you're talking about Zelda at a time when people need food and jobs. It shows that you're just totally out of touch.
I come from a single parent family. I was briefly living with my grandmother and then homeless, lived in the ghetto for 2 years with people getting shot outside my window. Finished school at a community college, got a good job. Stuff got better financially because I worked hard and made smart decisions.
As a kid I mostly rented video games at Blockbuster and a console was only $100-200. I would typically only get a console using Christmas money which would be roughly that amount from my grandparents. Though now games are so cheap that 1-2 year old PS3 games cost as little as 3 dollars used, so it's not really an expense anyway. I do own thousands of them now, but I have more money (and less time.) I could provide a photo of my game collection if you don't believe me. It wouldn't prove that I come from poverty, but it would prove that I own a lot of s***.
Whether people need jobs or not, it doesn't really matter that I'm talking about Zelda does it.
And again, you pretend to be a rich lawyer online, so I don't really know why I talk to you at all.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)AndreLeGeant posted...Funkx posted...
I agree. Why even have a fuel gauge on cars? It should just be a big blinking light that says "CAR NEEDS OILY STUFF GO GET SOME $"
That's how people do their oil... and it's how many do their gas. They fill up when it goes on empty.
Most newer cars have an oil gauge that tells them the percentage remaining.
If you did that on an older car you would burn the engine out because it doesn't tell you anything, you have to write down the mileage.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)Funkx posted...AndreLeGeant posted...
Funkx posted...
I agree. Why even have a fuel gauge on cars? It should just be a big blinking light that says "CAR NEEDS OILY STUFF GO GET SOME $"
That's how people do their oil... and it's how many do their gas. They fill up when it goes on empty.
Most newer cars have an oil gauge that tells them the percentage remaining.
If you did that on an older car you would burn the engine out because it doesn't tell you anything, you have to write down the mileage.
There's a sticker.
Also I like how you claim I pretend to be a lawyer when there are people on these boards who know me in real life or at least via Facebook. Yet you have this rough background yet apparently have no concept of why people want jobs more than to apply calc to video games.I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero.
They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord SideousAndreLeGeant posted...There's a sticker.
But then you have to look at the sticker, and compare it to the mileage. That requires BASIC ARITHMETIC! OH NO!Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.AndreLeGeant posted...Also I like how you claim I pretend to be a lawyer when there are people on these boards who know me in real life or at least via Facebook. Yet you have this rough background yet apparently have no concept of why people want jobs more than to apply calc to video games.
I'm pretty good at spotting a liar, though your posts are more like delusions.
I was using video games as a single ironic example of people saying there's no reason to use math on a gaming message board. Math has application in any and everything. Whether you write the formulas down or not, the fact is that if you are a lower middle class hardware store owner, you should probably know how to gauge how many hammers to keep in stock so that you don't buy too much or too little. Moreso because Home Depot is down the block and they have way more resources than the mom and pop store.
This "right wing math hating" thing is new. I swear. They were always anti-science because it went against their jesus beliefs, but math is not connected to that at all.Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a dumb man's idea of a smart man and a weak man's idea of a strong man.(edited 19 hours ago)
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