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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-bridge-attack-latest-rise-islamophobic-hate-crimes-borough-market-stabbing-terror-police-a7777451.html
Went from 3.5 a day to 20 a day. That's a bigger rise than after the Paris attacks where everyone put French Flags on their Facebook |
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Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1497506/bunnies-o.gif If I'm being honest I don't really expect a movie about mutant humanoid turtles to get good reviews ever.
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Would have been nice to see exactly which offences are being subsumed under the category of "hate crimes". If we're talking 20 incidents of verbal abuse, graffiti and vandalism in a country of 63 million people the day after a terrorist mass murder, I'd call that a remarkably muted response.
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands That's right just surrender, it's very liberal. Give up your homes and women lest you offend the precious radicals. |
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moose_knuckle posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Nobody is saying this lmao Or even implying this Why are conservatives so over emotional when it comes to defending hate crimes and other s***?
"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands If you do anything else you're an islamophobe |
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Funkdamental posted...
Would have been nice to see exactly which offences are being subsumed under the category of "hate crimes". If we're talking 20 incidents of verbal abuse, graffiti and vandalism in a country of 63 million people the day after a terrorist mass murder, I'd call that a remarkably muted response. Good point. But then again, you're asking this of the authorities that can't even figure out the motive during Islamic terror attacks (yet can somehow figure out that something was a hate crime). Might be asking too much of them. |
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moose_knuckle posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Uh, nobody is saying this either. What's up with conservatives and just blatantly making up bulls*** to fit their weird narratives?
"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet
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moose_knuckle posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Why are conservatives so over emotional when it comes to defending hate crimes and other s***? Why are liberals so accepting of being blown up, ran over, and stabbed |
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands what would an appropriate response by the Government entail exactly? |
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Not seeing where I'm implying this though. Like... what?
"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet
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CEs_EFG posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Uphold the law and not allow citizens to form lynch mobs that attack random brown people on suspicion that they're Muslim.
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moose_knuckle posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Why are conservatives so over emotional when it comes to defending hate crimes and other s***? Uh.... what? Are you in the wrong topic?
"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
CEs_EFG posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Is that what's happening or have the police really had to step up their hate speech crackdown on twitter lately? The article doesn't say either way.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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Let's keep a sense of perspective here. In the 1970s and 80s, if the IRA bombed a pub in the Shankill area of Belfast, the following night at least one innocent Catholic would have been killed by loyalist paramilitaries in a reprisal murder. The response in Britain to terrorist mass murders in the last two weeks has been absolutely nothing comparable to that. I've read nothing in that article which indicates that these "hate crimes" have even involved violence.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
CEs_EFG posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands They do a sum total of nothing to deter these attacks. One of these last ones was a failed asylum seeker...why was he there? |
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Funkdamental posted...
Would have been nice to see exactly which offences are being subsumed under the category of "hate crimes". If we're talking 20 incidents of verbal abuse, graffiti and vandalism in a country of 63 million people the day after a terrorist mass murder, I'd call that a remarkably muted response. This is London, not the UK. Popuation is about 3 million. Went from roughly 1 in a million per day to 1 is 150,000 per day. |
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the idea that "Islamophobia" creates "more" terrorists is a outright lie.....when their objective was already to kill the "infidels" to complete the global "Hijrah" and establish the global "caliphate" it was already decided long ago how they feel
You feast on red herring because it is your birthright.
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moose_knuckle posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
"Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Funkdamental posted...Would have been nice to see exactly which offences are being subsumed under the category of "hate crimes". If we're talking 20 incidents of verbal abuse, graffiti and vandalism in a country of 63 million people the day after a terrorist mass murder, I'd call that a remarkably muted response. Point taken, but still a remarkably muted response after 30 murders in two weeks. And for all we can tell from these figures, these fresh incidents might be down to no more than a dozen or so people -- the same dozen or so people, a handful of haters being very busy at their favourite hobby. And again, my point: are these incidents actually something more than insults being shouted in the street or painted on walls?
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Caution999 posted...
moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Repeating the same straw man over and over again doesn't really do you any favors Nobody said what you're implying they said itt
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Caution999 posted...moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands So just carry on as normal right |
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I never said I condone the hate crimes against the innocent Muslims.
I'm saying action needs to be taken, and the government has to DO SOMETHING so the English citizens can remain calm. War should always be avoided when possible, but where do you draw the line, exactly? When is enough enough?
"Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia
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Caution999 posted...
Then what's your solution then? Silence condones these radicals and their actions. Why don't you tell us yours first? moose_knuckle posted... Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Caution999 posted...moose_knuckle posted...MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands Nobody is saying this either though
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MorbidFaithless posted...
Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands so, you're saying that normal, lawful, non-radical muslims are just a few insults away from becoming Jihadi murderers? that sounds a bit racist. |
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Caution999 posted...
I never said I condone the hate crimes against the innocent Muslims. We are already at war with Islamic terrorism
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Nobody is saying this either though You're not saying anything. |
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My solution is that the bunch of PC leaders in Europe stand up for what's right and declare war and start doing something about this.
Start restricting Muslims from entering your country until things calm down.
"Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Nobody is saying this either though Where did anyone support hate crimes, troll |
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Caution999 posted...
My solution is that the bunch of PC leaders in Europe stand up for what's right and declare war and start doing something about this. They already are at war with radical Islam Haven't most countries turned around and started the restriction policy already?
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Caution999 posted...
My solution is that the bunch of PC leaders in Europe stand up for what's right and declare war and start doing something about this. Declare war against what, or whom?
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moose_knuckle posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Nobody is saying this either though It's what you implied moose_knuckle posted... MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Nobody is saying this either though That action is what you're implying. Say nothing do nothing. |
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moose_knuckle posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Nobody is saying this either though You did. In this very topic.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Nobody is saying this either though Sure. |
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...Caution999 posted...
My solution is that the bunch of PC leaders in Europe stand up for what's right and declare war and start doing something about this.
Start restricting Muslims from entering your country until things calm down.
They already are at war with radical Islam
Haven't most countries already turned around and started the restriction policy already?
This is exactly why I'm for the travel ban. More of these peaceful and moderate Muslims need to make their voice heard and tell others that they will not stand for this crap anymore. To be silent condones these actions.
Until then, start banning these countries that harbor ISIS agents.
A lot of Liberals don't want to hear this, but part of the President's job is to ensure the citizens of this country are safe."Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of ArcadiaAnarchy_Juiblex posted...I don't support hate crimes but ending Islamic migration seems perfectly reasonable.
To leftists, that IS a hate crime.Caution999 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Caution999 posted...
My solution is that the bunch of PC leaders in Europe stand up for what's right and declare war and start doing something about this.
Start restricting Muslims from entering your country until things calm down.
They already are at war with radical Islam
Haven't most countries already turned around and started the restriction policy already?
This is exactly why I'm for the travel ban. More of these peaceful and moderate Muslims need to make their voice heard and tell others that they will not stand for this crap anymore. To be silent condones these actions.
Until then, start banning these countries that harbor ISIS agents.
A lot of Liberals don't want to hear this, but part of the President's job is to ensure the citizens of this country are safe.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-refugee-resettlement-increase-20170527-story.htmlPosted with GameRaven 3.2moose_knuckle posted...That action is what you're implying. Say nothing do nothing.
No it's not. Me saying "hate crimes aren't good" isn't implying that nothing should be done
It's implying that you shouldn't commit hate crimes."You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetSanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I don't support hate crimes but ending Islamic migration seems perfectly reasonable.
To leftists, that IS a hate crime.
No it's not
yeah it is, you damn racist
you let them in, or you are racistYou feast on red herring because it is your birthright.Roxborough4Ever posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I don't support hate crimes but ending Islamic migration seems perfectly reasonable.
To leftists, that IS a hate crime.
No it's not
yeah it is, you damn racist
you let them in, or you are racist
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
This is how we end up with s*** like Pizza Gate and the "Bowling Greene Massacre""You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetThe mayor is muslim, is he not?Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi AliSanktu_Vyvorant posted...Roxborough4Ever posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I don't support hate crimes but ending Islamic migration seems perfectly reasonable.
To leftists, that IS a hate crime.
No it's not
yeah it is, you damn racist
you let them in, or you are racist
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
This is how we end up with s*** like Pizza Gate and the "Bowling Greene Massacre"
Roxborough4Ever is legit insane and always posts like that.Posted with GameRaven 3.2Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet3rd_Best_Master posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
moose_knuckle posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I don't support hate crimes but ending Islamic migration seems perfectly reasonable.
To leftists, that IS a hate crime.
No it's not
yeah it is, you damn racist
you let them in, or you are racist
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
This is how we end up with s*** like Pizza Gate and the "Bowling Greene Massacre"
Roxborough4Ever is legit insane and always posts like that.
Yeah, I forgot about that lol"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetSanktu_Vyvorant posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
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So a wholesale ban on Muslims would be okay but not a travel ban on specific countries?"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi AliSanktu_Vyvorant posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
Those countries are currently the higher threat. What is this crap about "but they got us before!" This is about the current situation today.
Yeah, I guess we should ban Japan too? After all, they got us before!! I mean, Pearl Harbor got nailed pretty good.
Nothing you said is based in reality. Neither you nor myself know more about where the pockets of ISIS currently are. I'll trust the people who study the defense of our country over CNN."Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of ArcadiaAnarchy_Juiblex posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
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So a wholesale ban on Muslims would be okay but not a travel ban on specific countries?
You're twisting my words.
Neither of those would be okay because they don't make any sense (radicals will always find other ways into the country), it's just that banning the entire region would make much more sense."You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetCaution999 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
Those countries are currently the higher threat. What is this crap about "but they got us before!" This is about the current situation today.
Yeah, I guess we should ban Japan too? After all, they got us before!! I mean, Pearl Harbor got nailed pretty good.
Nothing you said is based in reality. Neither you nor myself know more about where the pockets of ISIS currently are. I'll trust the people who study the defense of our country over CNN.
You have insulted the deity of the left that is second only to islam; cnn.Caution999 posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
Those countries are currently the higher threat
Source?"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fetmoose_knuckle posted...Caution999 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
Those countries are currently the higher threat. What is this crap about "but they got us before!" This is about the current situation today.
Yeah, I guess we should ban Japan too? After all, they got us before!! I mean, Pearl Harbor got nailed pretty good.
Nothing you said is based in reality. Neither you nor myself know more about where the pockets of ISIS currently are. I'll trust the people who study the defense of our country over CNN.
You have insulted the deity of the left that is second only to islam; cnn.
Poor attempt at trolling, but not surprised seeing as you're pretty s*** at arguing your points"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetSanktu_Vyvorant posted...moose_knuckle posted...
Caution999 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
Those countries are currently the higher threat. What is this crap about "but they got us before!" This is about the current situation today.
Yeah, I guess we should ban Japan too? After all, they got us before!! I mean, Pearl Harbor got nailed pretty good.
Nothing you said is based in reality. Neither you nor myself know more about where the pockets of ISIS currently are. I'll trust the people who study the defense of our country over CNN.
You have insulted the deity of the left that is second only to islam; cnn.
Poor attempt at trolling, but not surprised seeing as you're pretty s*** at arguing your points
Objectively true.
You have no points at all and you're on an alt troll account. Dismissed.MorbidFaithless posted...Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
isn't it strange how this sort of attacks take place right before elections or big political decisions?
Sometimes it almost feels like the radicals and the extreme right are in cahoots.Nov. 3 = best day in Gamefaqs history! ~I don't have any alternate accounts~
Welcome to the Minus World!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1247-the-minus-world"Just as the police will do everything possible to root out extremism from our city, so we will take a zero-tolerance approach to hate crime.
this guy can go f*** himself. the terrorist was shown with an isis flag in a documentary dating back to the beginning of 2016 and their police didnt do s***.
goddamn what an a******. doubt there were even 20 "hate crimes".Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka
1951-0301-9911EnragedSlith posted...The mayor is muslim, is he not?
Yup
And is routinely intentionally misquoted (or flat out lied about) by the American press for some reasonSanktu_Vyvorant posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
What's up with conservatives and making up ridiculous claims and then parading them around as if they're true
How is "stopping Islamic migration" any different than Trump's half measure travel ban?
You think claim that liberals would call a full measure travel ban racist is just "made up"?
They've been b****ing about the travel ban and calling it racist non-stop.
What the f*** have you been drinking?
Because his ban is stupid as it targets countries whose citizens haven't attacked us, and leaves countries whose citizens have actually attacked us
It's not a ban to stop terrorism, it's ban to placate racists
You realize the list is from Obama, correct?Islamophobia is a garbage word used to silence criticism of Islam, nothing more.
All these terror attacks and the mayor is concerned about the feelings religious people. *Yawn*
There is no easy solution to this, but this will eventually give birth to more radical right wing groups due to the inactivity of the government to confront the problem for fear of being called stupid words like "Islamophobic".
Also, if the community is so weak that their response to hurt feelings and criticism is to become terrorists, that says enough right there.Gavirulax-Gavirulax- posted...Islamophobia is a garbage word used to silence criticism of Islam, nothing more.
All these terror attacks and the mayor is concerned about the feelings religious people. *Yawn*
There is no easy solution to this, but this will eventually give birth to more radical right wing groups due to the inactivity of the government to confront the problem for fear of being called stupid words like "Islamophobic".
Also, if the community is so weak that their response to hurt feelings and criticism is to become terrorists, that says enough right there.
I agree with this. If the politicians aren't going to confront the problem then more division and different types of extremism will begin to become more prevalent.You know you love me...
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Also, if the community is so weak that their response to hurt feelings and criticism is to become terrorists, that says enough right there.
Not so much "hurt feelings" and more "crimes against you based on your belief and skincolor which then everyone justifies."
And no one says a whole community will change, just the weak and easily manipulated ones.
"How can you saying it's wrong for me to treat people like s*** and break the law!? IF any of me doing that any consequences then that's everyone else in the world's fault!" has no logic.
If all the people in this topic had their windows smashed, tyres slashed, were insulted, assaulted, had things stolen, had death threats and their homes vandalized etc etc by their neighbors, how long do you think it would take before one of the posters grabbed a baseball bat and did something stupid?
So how come you do not believe this same basic prinicpal applies to Muslims?
You need to google "Hath not a Jew eyes." then come backGossipgirl posted...-Gavirulax- posted...
Islamophobia is a garbage word used to silence criticism of Islam, nothing more.
All these terror attacks and the mayor is concerned about the feelings religious people. *Yawn*
There is no easy solution to this, but this will eventually give birth to more radical right wing groups due to the inactivity of the government to confront the problem for fear of being called stupid words like "Islamophobic".
Also, if the community is so weak that their response to hurt feelings and criticism is to become terrorists, that says enough right there.
I agree with this. If the politicians aren't going to confront the problem then more division and different types of extremism will begin to become more prevalent.
Remember what happened with Rotherham and Rochdale? Two cases of mass child sexual abuse and trafficing by Pakistani Muslim men on white British girls. Ignored because British police and social services didn't want to be accused of racism.Nomadic View posted...MorbidFaithless posted...
Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
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His face needs to be on the haha take that liberals dog
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Doing nothing is pointless, but wars and fearing/hating Islam are also exactly what they want.
This is a complicated issue that people want simple violent instant gratification fromGuns_of_Verdun posted...Not so much "hurt feelings" and more "crimes against you based on your belief and skincolor which then everyone justifies."
I specified those for a reason, no matter how much people try to move the goal posts to skin color, again, if even if people were critical over that (which people have been with me in the past) it's never a reason to go out and do nonsense like this and certainly isn't the case with any other community (especially religious).
Guns_of_Verdun posted...If all the people in this topic had their windows smashed, tyres slashed, were insulted, assaulted, had things stolen, had death threats and their homes vandalized etc etc by their neighbors, how long do you think it would take before one of the posters grabbed a baseball bat and did something stupid?
So how come you do not believe this same basic prinicpal applies to Muslims?
It does, of course I never said it didn't, which is what you're implying, so I need not state the obvious again.
However Islamophobia is one of the most scandalous words ever created, since it is perfectly fine to be critical of Islam and not be called "phobic" for it, which I've heard the word used to describe just about every former Muslim ever, as the word exists almost entirely to stifle debate.
Esrac posted...Remember what happened with Rotherham and Rochdale? Two cases of mass child sexual abuse and trafficing by Pakistani Muslim men on white British girls. Ignored because British police and social services didn't want to be accused of racism.
And unfortunately it's likely much more widespread than just those suburbs/cities as well.GavirulaxVectorChaos posted...Nomadic View posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
Which only leads to more radicalisation. They're playing right into the terrorists' hands
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His face needs to be on the haha take that liberals dog
"If we put out the fire the fire wins"
Well they do win. Because that is what they want. Knowing Trudeau, doing nothing probably would be his solution, but he was right about that. So let's find a way to do something about it without letting them win. The wars don't work. Human rights violations are too high a price. Keep trying.-Gavirulax- posted...
I specified those for a reason, no matter how much people try to move the goal posts to skin color, again, if even if people were critical over that (which people have been with me in the past) it's never a reason to go out and do nonsense like this.
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It does, of course I never said it didn't, which is what you're implying, so I need not state the obvious again.
Then going "If anyone responds stupidily to us abusing them that just shows they are a weak stupid community." is stupid and now you claim to know it.However Islamophobia is one of the most scandalous words ever created, since it is perfectly fine to be critical of Islam and not be called "phobic" for it, which I've heard the word used to describe just about every former Muslim ever, as the word exists almost entirely to stifle debate.
Replace "Islamophobia" with "Antisemitism" or "Homophobia" and you'll see how rotten that attitude is.
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I specified those for a reason, no matter how much people try to move the goal posts to skin color, again, if even if people were critical over that (which people have been with me in the past) it's never a reason to go out and do nonsense like this.
Skin color is not irrelevant. You think White Muslims called Charles Smith are the ones being targeted?
Sikhs have suffered from Islamophobic attaks from people who are too stupid to know what a Sikh is an just abused the brown guy in a turban.
That's why I said "Beliefs and skin color." you don't get to handwave that.Guns_of_Verdun posted...Skin color is not irrelevant. You think White Muslims called Charles Smith are the ones being targeted?
Lol, you know nothing about Islam if you think that would be their name, which I'm not shocked, I see this type of Islamophillia from people that usually know nothing about it quite often (and yes that word is nice to counter Islamophobia, good use).
Guns_of_Verdun posted...Then going "If anyone responds stupidily to us abusing them that just shows they are a weak stupid community." is stupid and now you claim to know it.
No, again, the criticism of Islam and its teachings is perfectly valid (and for the most part what radical Muslims protest), no matter how much you try to make it about something else (like skin color, or race, or some other tolerance nonsense, the issue I brought up was critical of Islam).
Guns_of_Verdun posted...That's why I said "Beliefs and skin color." you don't get to handwave that.
Islam is not a race or else I couldn't have left it (despite the apostasy ruling). *Handwaves*Gavirulax-Gavirulax- posted...
Lol, you know nothing about Islam if you think that would be their name, which I'm not shocked,
You intentionally evaded the point.
Which says it all really. You know full well skin color plays a huge part, you just don't want to admit it so you can continue defending abuse.
You're also wrong for the record. Plenty of Muslims have Anglo names, especially in Western Europe. You know nothing about Islam if you think that could not be their name, which I'm not shocked,
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No, again, the criticism of Islam and its teachings is perfectly valid
That's not an Islamophoic hate crime.
No one going "999! Police! That man ate some pork!"
You're strawmanning. Again with the points you ran away from. "How is critizing Jewsh teachings anti-semitism, how is critizing homosexuals homophobia!?"
You will never respond to that.
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Islam is not a race
I didn't say it was. That doesn't stop Islamophobic crimes being base on Beliefs and skin color and you have handwaved based on that like a bigot.The whole "Islam is not a race" argument is extremely stupid, because most people base the religion on how people look. That's why you see Sikhs getting attacked for being mistaken as Muslims.
Because yes, while Islam isn't a race, most people who hate Islam see it as a religion full of brown people who wear turbans."You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetSanktu_Vyvorant posted...The whole "Islam is not a race" argument is extremely stupid, because most people base the religion on how people look. That's why you see Sikhs getting attacked for being mistaken as Muslims.
Because yes, while Islam isn't a race, most people who hate Islam see it as a religion full of brown people who wear turbans.
He completely ignored this and other points repeatedly, just stuck his hands in his ears and went "Not a race lala."
It's funny how hypocritical the close-mindedness is.Guns_of_Verdun posted...You intentionally evaded the point.
Which says it all really. You know full well skin color plays a huge part, you just don't want to admit it so you can continue defending abuse.
You're also wrong for the record. Plenty of Muslims have Anglo names, especially in Western Europe. You know nothing about Islam if you think that could not be their name, which I'm not shocked,
The majority, I think not...of course it went over your head that I was talking about converts - as for the rest of it, yes I know my arguments are superior, I would consider using my words more often, it makes you easier to read. <3
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
That's not an Islamophoic hate crime.
No one going "999! Police! That man ate some pork!"
You're strawmanning. Again with the points you ran away from. "How is critizing Jewsh teachings anti-semitism, how is critizing homosexuals homophobia!?"
You will never respond to that.
I'm going to pretend like you made sense with this, since "critzing" people is not a phobia, and never will be, nor is "critzing" an ideology.
Guns_of_Verdun posted...I didn't say it was. That doesn't stop Islamophobic crimes being base on Beliefs and skin color and you have handwaved based on that like a bigot.
That's me, an ex-muslim bigot! Have we regressed enough for your liking yet? <3GavirulaxGuns_of_Verdun posted...Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
The whole "Islam is not a race" argument is extremely stupid, because most people base the religion on how people look. That's why you see Sikhs getting attacked for being mistaken as Muslims.
Because yes, while Islam isn't a race, most people who hate Islam see it as a religion full of brown people who wear turbans.
He completely ignored this and other points repeatedly, just stuck his hands in his ears and went "Not a race lala."
It's funny how hypocritical the close-mindedness is.
I just find it weird how blindly people look at that phrase
Like it's really weird"You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_FetSanktu_Vyvorant posted...I just find it weird how blindly people look at that phrase
Like it's really weird
Islam is not a race and never will be (no matter how much regressives try to make it one), there is nothing weird, blind or unusual about it.
Again, I left Islam (apostasy laws and all), I cannot leave my race.Gavirulax-Gavirulax- posted...
The majority, I think not...of course it went over your head that I was talking about converts - as for the rest of it, yes I know my arguments are superior, I would consider using my words more often, it makes you easier to read. <3
Converts aren't forced to change their names either. A lot of them don't. This is the UK, not Saudi Arabia.
Jesus Christ.
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I'm going to pretend like you made sense with this, since "critzing" people is not a phobia, and never will be, nor is "critzing" an ideology.
Exactly. You're arguing against yourself now.
"How is critizing people a phobia!?"
"It's not."
"WEll then how come you're pointing out hate cries as if it's a bad thing!?"
"Because hate rimes arent criticism."
"WELL HOW IS CRITIZING PEOPLE A PHOBIA!?"
You're in your own world. Get out some time and talk to people. Most Muslims are just dudes, doing 9 to 5 jobs who just pray more and drink less.
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That's me, an ex-muslim bigot!
Sad that you're proud of it but at least you are honest
Well I say honest, you're honesty about being a bigot. You're still dishonest about ducking the antisemitism, skin-color and homophobia points.Guns_of_Verdun posted...Exactly. You're arguing against yourself now.
"How is critizing people a phobia!?"
"It's not."
"WEll then how come you're pointing out hate cries as if it's a bad thing!?"
"Because hate rimes arent criticism."
"WELL HOW IS CRITIZING PEOPLE A PHOBIA!?"
You're in your own world. Get out some time and talk to people. Most Muslims are just dudes, doing 9 to 5 jobs who just pray more and drink less.
Lol drink "less", real expert on Islam here.
And the first point, you dodged it, not shocker there.
Guns_of_Verdun posted...Sad that you're proud of it but at least you are honest
Well I say honest, you're honesty about being a bigot. You're still dishonest about ducking the antisemitism, skin-color and homophobia points.
If I'm a bigot for criticizing Islam as a mad ideology, so be it, also said points have already been addressed they just go against your lugubrious narrative and victim complex.Gavirulax- Boards
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