June 27, 2017

MvCI Producer: "People dont remember the X-Men"

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ManSpread 9 hours ago#1
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Romulox28 8 hours ago#3
I just want my Cable/Venom/Captain Commando team back :(
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AlisLandale 8 hours ago#4
"Young fans wont remember the XMen."

"Didnt Apocalypse premier in 2016?"

"We dont want to alienate the crucial 1-3 year old demographic."
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hollow_shrine 8 hours ago#5
They really should've known they weren't going to be able to sell this, because this is playing out exactly how we might have expected.
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meralonne 8 hours ago#6
ManSpread posted...
https://www.pcgamesn.com/marvel-vs-capcom-infinite/marvel-vs-capcom-xmen-characters

Daily reminder of f*** Capcom and Disney

Should be a daily reminder of "f*** Fox for making at least half a dozen s***ty movies based on Marvel characters".
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KillerSlaw 8 hours ago#7
Why didn't they just make an MCU fighter? Or a Marvel fighter that just features MCU characters since they wouldn't want the game to be associated with the MCU I'm sure but they would still want it to promote the MCU.
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SSJGrimReaper 8 hours ago#9
Ivynn 8 hours ago#10
FrisbeeDude  attack always8 hours ago#11
Lmao he mentions black panther but doesn't disclose that's he's a dlc character 


Lmao f*** this game
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meralonne 8 hours ago#12
Romulox28 posted...
meralonne posted...
ManSpread posted...
https://www.pcgamesn.com/marvel-vs-capcom-infinite/marvel-vs-capcom-xmen-characters

Daily reminder of f*** Capcom and Disney

Should be a daily reminder of "f*** Fox for making at least half a dozen s***ty movies based on Marvel characters".

movies have nothing to do with what characters are allowed in this game. it's just dinsey using mvci as a big advertisement for their MCU movies

Movies have plenty to do with which MCU characters are currently popular. Capcom is capitalizing on that. 

I mean, I'm not about to argue that taking Wolverine and Deadpool out of the lineup is a good idea. Those are very popular characters. But it says an awful lot about Fox when Disney is able to make f***ing StarLord more popular than characters like Storm and Rogue. I mean, how in the f*** did that happen?!?!
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hollow_shrine 8 hours ago#13
SSJGrimReaper posted...
pls love carol

People loved Carol...until the character assassination that was Civil War 2. Thanks Bendis.

meralonne posted...
But it says an awful lot about Fox when Disney is able to make f***ing StarLord more popular than characters like Storm and Rogue. I mean, how in the f*** did that happen?!?!

Amen.
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Dash_Harber 8 hours ago#14
Let's be fair, X-Men is nowhere near as popular as The Avengers nowadays. The films have been hit or miss and we haven't had a popular TV series in awhile. On top of that, how many X-men besides Wolverine or Mystique can the average person name?

It's a totally stupid, asinine thing to say, but Devil's Advocate here, he's not exactly wrong about their waning popularity.
ReignFury 8 hours ago#15
As much as I would love and Xmen Avengers crossover I think that ship has sailed and sunk.
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DeathVelvien 7 hours ago#16
f*** Capcom.
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ManSpread 7 hours ago#17
Dash_Harber posted...
Let's be fair, X-Men is nowhere near as popular as The Avengers nowadays. The films have been hit or miss and we haven't had a popular TV series in awhile. On top of that, how many X-men besides Wolverine or Mystique can the average person name?

It's a totally stupid, asinine thing to say, but Devil's Advocate here, he's not exactly wrong about their waning popularity.

Disney/Marvel has been intentionally sabotaging the X-Men. Chris Claremont has already confirmed they're not allowed to create new mutants.
wow that's really f***ing stupid
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Duncanwii 7 hours ago#19
To be fair, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were in Avengers 2, they just weren't allowed to be called X-Men.
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Wowww. X-Men are way cooler than avengers. That's absurd. Won't be buying this game lol
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Behaviorism 7 hours ago#21
He was better off just not saying anything
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ManSpread posted...

Disney/Marvel has been intentionally sabotaging the X-Men. Chris Claremont has already confirmed they're not allowed to create new mutants.


- No new Mutants, period.
- Wolverine is dead (Old Man Logan still around, though)
- No new Fantastic Four comics, at all

The comics guys are pretty angry about this. This is why you have Captain America Nazi.
GAMER_X 7 hours ago#23
Last i heard it was pretty well known that some high up suit at disney hates x men because sony has the rights still or some crap, so out of pure spite the guy is making sure they get 0 exposure in every way he can. 


Disney is an awful cancerous company and always will be. Also see kathleen kennedy ruining star wars currently with her stupid agendas and incompetency
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ManSpread 7 hours ago#24
GAMER_X posted...
Last i heard it was pretty well known that some high up suit at disney hates x men because sony has the rights still or some crap, so out of pure spite the guy is making sure they get 0 exposure in every way he can. 


Disney is an awful cancerous company and always will be. Also see kathleen kennedy ruining star wars currently with her stupid agendas and incompetency

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Blue_Inigo 7 hours ago#25
SSJGrimReaper posted...
pls love carol
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Romulox28 7 hours ago#26
GAMER_X posted...
Last i heard it was pretty well known that some high up suit at disney hates x men because sony has the rights still or some crap, so out of pure spite the guy is making sure they get 0 exposure in every way he can. 


Disney is an awful cancerous company and always will be. Also see kathleen kennedy ruining star wars currently with her stupid agendas and incompetency

how has she ruined star wars lol
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Raikuro 7 hours ago#28
Why are so many X-men in the Marvel Heroes game though? They just added Beast not too long ago.
HylianFox 7 hours ago#29
meralonne posted...
StarLord more popular than characters like Storm and Rogue.

Chris Pratt can make anything popular
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Ivynn 7 hours ago#30
Raikuro posted...
Why are so many X-men in the Marvel Heroes game though? They just added Beast not too long ago.


There's rumors that they're starting to relax the "No X-Men, No FF" policy, but it's probably too late for it to affect MvCI.
Really hoping this game tanks in sales. 

Smaller roster, switching from 3v3 to 2v2, axing a quarter of the classic cast, worse art direction than the last two games, etc.

Just a bunch of bad decisions all around.
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Behaviorism 7 hours ago#32
ChromaticAngel posted...
ManSpread posted...

Disney/Marvel has been intentionally sabotaging the X-Men. Chris Claremont has already confirmed they're not allowed to create new mutants.


- No new Mutants, period.
- Wolverine is dead (Old Man Logan still around, though)
- No new Fantastic Four comics, at all

The comics guys are pretty angry about this. This is why you have Captain America Nazi.

Comics are supposed to be fun and am escape from reality. But of course money and legal cap ruin it all. I mean for Christ's sake, why would you give some 1 company rights to one character, another company rights to the characters, a 3rd company rights to these characters, etc. It's a mess.

Fans can't even play as a f***ing xman because he owns this, she owns that, they said you can't use him, and on and on.
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Zikten 7 hours ago#33
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DBZ looks sweet. I'm glad there is a suitable replacement for the marvel disaster
YellowSUV 7 hours ago#34
Did Disney have a gun to this guy's head? Who seriously says people know about Black Panther but don't know who Wolverine is.
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ManSpread 7 hours ago#35
Raikuro posted...
Why are so many X-men in the Marvel Heroes game though? They just added Beast not too long ago.

I was actually a private tester for that game. Gazillion obtained the Marvel license back in 2009 or 2011, before Disney started their anti X-Men campaign.
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Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#36
Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.
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Zikten posted...
DBZ looks sweet. I'm glad there is a suitable replacement for the marvel disaster


I don't believe this game will replace MVC.

I never liked MVC as a series since the 2nd game, but DBFZ plays different enough that people who do liked it perfect just the way it was probably won't like or have many serious complaints about DBFZ.
I've never been a huge fan of the X-Men. I prefer most of the other Marvel stuff. But they obviously should be in MvC, and they're overall a key piece of the Marvel universe.
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Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#39
And DBFZ plays more like Jump Ultimate Stars
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.


Sorry you're angry that a lot of people won't get to play their favorite characters that have been a staple for the entire series.
meralonne 7 hours ago#41
Behaviorism posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
ManSpread posted...

Disney/Marvel has been intentionally sabotaging the X-Men. Chris Claremont has already confirmed they're not allowed to create new mutants.


- No new Mutants, period.
- Wolverine is dead (Old Man Logan still around, though)
- No new Fantastic Four comics, at all

The comics guys are pretty angry about this. This is why you have Captain America Nazi.

Comics are supposed to be fun and am escape from reality. But of course money and legal cap ruin it all. I mean for Christ's sake, why would you give some 1 company rights to one character, another company rights to the characters, a 3rd company rights to these characters, etc. It's a mess.

Fans can't even play as a f***ing xman because he owns this, she owns that, they said you can't use him, and on and on.

Marvel sold off the movie rights to the X-men, Fantastic Four and Spider-man because it was either do it or no more Marvel, period. All of those deals were struck before Marvel Studios actually figured out how to make a movie and before Disney got their claws in.
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Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#42
ChromaticAngel posted...
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.


Sorry you're angry that a lot of people won't get to play their favorite characters that have been a staple for the entire series.

*All of a sudden it's their favorite character.
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Solar_Crimson 7 hours ago#43
Behaviorism posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
ManSpread posted...

Disney/Marvel has been intentionally sabotaging the X-Men. Chris Claremont has already confirmed they're not allowed to create new mutants.


- No new Mutants, period.
- Wolverine is dead (Old Man Logan still around, though)
- No new Fantastic Four comics, at all

The comics guys are pretty angry about this. This is why you have Captain America Nazi.

Comics are supposed to be fun and am escape from reality. But of course money and legal cap ruin it all. I mean for Christ's sake, why would you give some 1 company rights to one character, another company rights to the characters, a 3rd company rights to these characters, etc. It's a mess.

Fans can't even play as a f***ing xman because he owns this, she owns that, they said you can't use him, and on and on.

To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.
hollow_shrine 7 hours ago#44
ChromaticAngel posted...
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.


Sorry you're angry that a lot of people won't get to play their favorite characters that have been a staple for the entire series.

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Solar_Crimson posted...
To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.
Dash_Harber 7 hours ago#46
ChromaticAngel posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.


I feel like if this was a company you liked, you'd be applauding them for being so crafty.
Blue_Inigo 7 hours ago#47
ChromaticAngel posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.

If you owned Marvel, would you help Fox and Sony, your direct competitors, make more money and advertise for them?
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HylianFox 7 hours ago#48
Dash_Harber posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.


I feel like if this was a company you liked, you'd be applauding them for being so crafty.

That's specious logic. I love Nintendo but that doesn't mean I approve of every little decision they make, and they make a lot of dumb decisions.
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Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#49
ChromaticAngel posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.

As they should be since Fox sucks with the movies and won't give the rights back.
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ManSpread 7 hours ago#50
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

Lmao as soon as I get home I'll upload a picture of my comics you f***ing trashbag of a poster
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    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    As they should be since Fox sucks with the movies and won't give the rights back.


    "sucks" lol

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    Dash_Harber 7 hours ago#52
    HylianFox posted...
    Dash_Harber posted...
    ChromaticAngel posted...
    Solar_Crimson posted...
    To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


    Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.


    I feel like if this was a company you liked, you'd be applauding them for being so crafty.

    That's specious logic. I love Nintendo but that doesn't mean I approve of every little decision they make, and they make a lot of dumb decisions.

    Fair enough, but the point is that they are doing exactly what every business does and it's sort of stupid to expect them to work against their own self interest to help their competition who refuses to sell them back the rights in the first place.
    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#53
    ManSpread posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

    Lmao as soon as I get home I'll upload a picture of my comics you f***ing trashbag of a poster

    Why do people still take TC seriously about Capcom? The dude s***s on Capcom day and f***ing night on here.
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    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#54
    Zero_Destroyer posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    As they should be since Fox sucks with the movies and won't give the rights back.


    "sucks" lol

    There's been some duds but it's generally be a financially lucrative and critically well received franchise.

    LMAO all of a f***ing sudden the X-Men movies are now "good". Keep on digging.
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    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    LMAO all of a f***ing sudden the X-Men movies are now "good". Keep on digging.


    ...Yes? 

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/xmen

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x2_xmen_united 

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_wolverine_2012

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_days_of_future_past

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/deadpool

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_2017

    Wolverine is arguable (mixed more than positive) & Apocalypse, Origins, & The Last Stand aren't looked at well, but the franchise is generally well regarded and has been for nearly two decades.
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    ModLogic 7 hours ago#56
    The producer doesn't have a clue how to respond to a valid question. Does he really think the player base is that dumb?


    i love this comment lmfao.

    its perfectly logical for capcom to think that when so many vocal fanboys defend all their bulls***
    Also, this is anecdotal, but I never played MvC so I don't really have investment outside of my recent run into fighting games. I'm not buying this because it's clearly a downgrade from UMvC3. The lack of X-Men is definitely a blow for that, though, because I loved the s*** out of the first two movies in particular, especially X2. So no, none of this was "sudden", this is Capcom being s***ty and getting staged up by ArcSys with Dragon Ball.
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    Dash_Harber posted...
    ChromaticAngel posted...
    Solar_Crimson posted...
    To be fair, Marvel had no choice when they sold off the movie rights back in the 90s; it was either that, or go bankrupt.


    Disney however does have a choice to not be a dick and they are deliberately choosing to be a dick.


    I feel like if this was a company you liked, you'd be applauding them for being so crafty.


    Nah. Nintendo has done a lot of the same s*** as well and I've called them out for it all the time.
    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#60
    Zero_Destroyer posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    LMAO all of a f***ing sudden the X-Men movies are now "good". Keep on digging.


    ...Yes? 

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/xmen

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x2_xmen_united 

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_wolverine_2012

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_days_of_future_past

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/deadpool

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_2017

    Wolverine is arguable (mixed more than positive) & Apocalypse, Origins, & The Last Stand aren't looked at well, but the franchise is generally well regarded and has been for nearly two decades.

    You're right but the recent movies sucks except for Logan. They need to give the series back to the mother.
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    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#61
    Zero_Destroyer posted...
    Also, this is anecdotal, but I never played MvC so I don't really have investment outside of my recent run into fighting games. I'm not buying this because it's clearly a downgrade from UMvC3. The lack of X-Men is definitely a blow for that, though, because I loved the s*** out of the first two movies in particular, especially X2. So no, none of this was "sudden", this is Capcom being s***ty and getting staged up by ArcSys with Dragon Ball.

    But this is a s***ty excuse. You hate mvci because X-Men isn't in there and yet you've never played the series and basing this on the movies. Holy hell stop it.
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    Why are so many X-men in the Marvel Heroes game though? They just added Beast not too long ago.

    It's because Gazillion already had permissions lined up to use certain X-Men characters prior to Marvel being bought up by Disney, so they can use those characters no matter what Disney says now. Subsequently, it's the reason why said X-Men characters have not only been slowly trickling in (to avoid burning through all of them too quickly) but why there's been an uptick in making X-Men into Team-Ups (thus extending how mush Gazillion can use any given X-Men character) or why there was a sudden burst of more X-Men costumes and then turning *those* variants into further Team-Ups (there's like, 4 Wolverine Team-Ups alone).

    Anyway, what really burns my ass about this "embargo" from Disney is that the X-Men were there from the beginning of the Marvel vs. Capcom crossovers, the first game in the series was "X-Men vs. Street Fighter". They literally got top-billing, but nah man, "nobody remembers the X-Men".

    Guess I won't remember to buy this game either. And Danvers can rot in a ditch, bad enough she's become utter trash, but she just adds to the painful reminder that I'm being denied more Rogue.
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    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    You're right but the recent movies sucks except for Logan. They need to give the series back to the mother.

    No. Deadpool and Logan are much better than any recent MCU film.
    bobbysjoby 7 hours ago#64
    I'm over marvel vs Capcom until they recreate the legendary MvC2 line up
    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#65
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Guess I won't remember to buy this game either.

    Bye Felicia
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    Veggeta_EDGE 7 hours ago#66
    Don't like it? Don't f***ing buy it. It's that simple.
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    KillerSlaw 6 hours ago#67
    Blue_Inigo posted...
    If you owned Marvel, would you help Fox and Sony, your direct competitors, make more money and advertise for them?


    IIRC Disney still makes tons of money off the merchandising rights of all of the movie properties that Fox and Sony own.

    So it's actually free money for them if Fox keeps X-Men popular and they continue to pump out X-Men merch.
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    Twin3Turbo 6 hours ago#68
    Dumbest part about this "no one remembers the x-men" logic is....how many people even know or care about a rather large percentage of the rosters they've been using in many of their latest games? Who TF really cares about Arthur, for example? People don't remember Wolverine? Really? 

    Also, if people truly don't "remember" them, that essentially would make them a new character for those people, which would appease them by having a new character that they supposedly don't know about while also appeasing people that DO "remember" those characters and want them in.
    garan 6 hours ago#69
    Ivynn posted...
    f*** this game
    Veggeta_EDGE 6 hours ago#70
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Don't like it? Don't f***ing buy it. It's that simple.
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    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Guess I won't remember to buy this game either.

    Bye Felicia


    Uh, I'm pretty sure she isn't part of the roster in this one, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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    Romulox28 6 hours ago#72
    Twin3Turbo posted...
    Also, if people truly don't "remember" them, that essentially would make them a new character for those people, which would appease them by having a new character that they supposedly don't know about while also appeasing people that DO "remember" those characters and want them in.

    lol

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    Veggeta_EDGE 6 hours ago#73
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Guess I won't remember to buy this game either.

    Bye Felicia


    Uh, I'm pretty sure she isn't part of the roster in this one, so I don't know what you're talking about.

    Sorry dude but you can't out-edge me. Just look at my name.
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    GAMER_X 6 hours ago#74
    ManSpread posted...
    GAMER_X posted...
    Last i heard it was pretty well known that some high up suit at disney hates x men because sony has the rights still or some crap, so out of pure spite the guy is making sure they get 0 exposure in every way he can. 


    Disney is an awful cancerous company and always will be. Also see kathleen kennedy ruining star wars currently with her stupid agendas and incompetency

    Ike Perlmutter


    Yup thats the guy
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    Ivynn 6 hours ago#75
    Dash_Harber posted...

    Fair enough, but the point is that they are doing exactly what every business does and it's sort of stupid to expect them to work against their own self interest to help their competition who refuses to sell them back the rights in the first place.


    But it's only the movie rights they don't have. Fox only makes money off of X-Men movies. Comics, games, animation, toys...all that still goes completely to Marvel. So if X-Men was in MvCI, Fox would not be getting a slice of that pie. Marvel is actively denying themselves money all because Disney is buttsore they can't get the movies rights to X-Men back to Marvel.
    Veggeta_EDGE 6 hours ago#76
    Ivynn posted...
    So if X-Men was in MvCI, Fox would not be getting a slice of that pie.

    Holy f*** you cannot be this f***ing dense.
    I'm Veggeta X's alt
    Ivynn 6 hours ago#77
    Twin3Turbo 6 hours ago#78
    Ivynn posted...
    who posted

    Veggeta_EDGE
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
    Guess I won't remember to buy this game either.

    Bye Felicia


    Uh, I'm pretty sure she isn't part of the roster in this one, so I don't know what you're talking about.

    Sorry dude but you can't out-edge me. Just look at my name.


    It wasn't about being edgy, I thought you were making some sort of reference on account of Felicia being the name of both a Marvel and Capcom character though like I said, neither one is part of the roster (barring day-one DLC anyway because Capcom gonna Crapcom).
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    Raikuro 6 hours ago#80
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Don't like it? Don't f***ing buy it. It's that simple.

    We aren't buying it, and making sure people considering it are aware of how bad it is before they get burned. Why do you care so much lol
    Solar_Crimson 6 hours ago#81
    Raikuro posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Don't like it? Don't f***ing buy it. It's that simple.

    We aren't buying it, and making sure people considering it are aware of how bad it is before they get burned. Why do you care so much lol

    That's (or variations of it) his dumb response when anyone criticizes anything.
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    ManSpread 6 hours ago#82
    Guys, I gotta admit, I'm frontin.

    I don't have any X-Men comics out of storage or a mousepad of Doctor Doom x Phoenix x Magneto.

    71u45PP

    I haven't got burned in the past before by Capcom.

    hmuFwRT

    I haven't played the demo of MvCI to know it sucks s*** and is a huge downgrade.

    xKkTRmB

    Hell, I've never played a Marvel game in the past (dont have my 360 anymore or I woulda had a picture of it on there)

    W1JbDk1

    Get the f*** out of my topic, Capcuck.
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    Dash_Harber 6 hours ago#83
    Ivynn posted...
    Dash_Harber posted...

    Fair enough, but the point is that they are doing exactly what every business does and it's sort of stupid to expect them to work against their own self interest to help their competition who refuses to sell them back the rights in the first place.


    But it's only the movie rights they don't have. Fox only makes money off of X-Men movies. Comics, games, animation, toys...all that still goes completely to Marvel. So if X-Men was in MvCI, Fox would not be getting a slice of that pie. Marvel is actively denying themselves money all because Disney is buttsore they can't get the movies rights to X-Men back to Marvel.


    That makes perfect sense. I'm not sure you quite grasp how brands work. Brands are based on their highest earning incarnations, and right now, that is film for Marvel. However, the owner of any brand benefits from their brand being even casually mentioned in a popular work. If they can let the brand slip, they can get it back for a reasonable price. I mean, it's not like Fox doesn't benefit from X-Men being included in other Marvel works.
    ManSpread 6 hours ago#84
    ChromaticAngel posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...

    You're right but the recent movies sucks except for Logan. They need to give the series back to the mother.

    No. Deadpool and Logan are much better than any recent MCU film.

    nah
    ManSpread 5 hours ago#85
    Xelltrix  black5 hours ago#86
    I love Disney but this stuff pisses me off. What angered me the most is them straight-up rewriting Pietro and Wanda as never having been mutants in the comic AND movie universe because they want to use them. Seriously, go f yourselves. 

    I didn't know about the no new mutant stuff and intentionally ruining exposure, I wonder if their hatred of X-Men played a part in Wolverine & The X-Men having so many gaps between episodes and getting cancelled... ugh. Anger inducing.
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    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

    You've never actually played a MvC game have you? Axing the X-men characters from the series is like dropping Street Fighter from the series.
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    s0nicfan 5 hours ago#88
    tainted_emerald posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

    You've never actually played a MvC game have you? Axing the X-men characters from the series is like dropping Street Fighter from the series.


    Worse. Wolverine has been in every "vs series" game going all the way back to Children of the Atom. It'd be closer to have a street fighter without ryu or chun-li
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    ManSpread 5 hours ago#89
    s0nicfan 5 hours ago#90
    ManSpread posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    street fighter without chun-li

    jRrhkgg


    You realize that they added her in, right?
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    ManSpread 5 hours ago#91
    s0nicfan posted...
    ManSpread posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    street fighter without chun-li

    jRrhkgg


    You realize that they added her in, right?

    yes
    Darmik 5 hours ago#92
    Here's the full quote. I thought it wouldn't be as bad. 

    There was recently a leak about the characters, and people picked up on the fact that a lot of classic characters aren't there, specifically the X-Men characters like Magneto and Sentinel. How do you guys feel about people being hung up on that?

    Peter Rosas: If you were to actually think about it, these characters are just functions. They're just doing things. Magneto, case and point, is a favorite because he has eight-way dash and he's really fast, right? So our more technical players, all they want to do is triangle jump and that kind of stuff. Well guess what, Nova can do the same thing, Captain Marvel can do the same thing. Ultron can do the same thing. Go ahead and try them out.

    It's just the function that people are associating with the character, and there's no shortage of that. We made sure that all proper play styles can be represented with our current roster. The design team has been looking at that very closely. We wanted to make sure that if a legacy character doesn't happen to make the roster this time, that play style would still be represented. That somebody who has associated themselves with Magneto wouldn't be lost coming into this title.

    Michael Evans: The other thing is, you mentioned returning characters right? If you look at the returning characters and you play with them, you'll notice that they're quite different from their previous iterations. Iron Man, he plays completely different. He has new special moves. Obviously we wanted to keep fan-favorite characters, but since you have the new system they're gonna play differently. In addition to that, new special moves, new hypers, new level threes in some cases, these breathe new life into these characters even if they are returning. So we did definitely make an attempt to do that.

    The X-Men stuff, [I] can't talk to. But I do want to talk about the character-selection process because I think it's important. There's three things we're looking at: Gameplay first and foremost of course. The Capcom R&D team and us, we get together and we talk with Marvel about what characters we want to put in. From a character-type perspective, we want our big brawler characters, our characters that can fly, our small characters or whatever. Just from a creative side, gameplay, here's the characters we want. That plays a part.

    One of the first things we did was sit down to write the story. When we were thinking about the story we wanted to tell, as fans ourselves on both sides, on the Marvel side there's Mike Jones, an ex-Capcom guy. We're big Marvel fans, so we're sitting down to just like, "What crazy interactions do we want to see? What would happen if Docket, Dante, and Rocket came together? What would happen and who are these pairings that we want to see?" So from a storytelling perspective that also played into the character selection.

    Then the third one is obviously the popularity of these characters. X was one we had to get in there. A lot of fans wanted to see X, so we brought him back. Then also we talked with Marvel very closely about their future roadmap, about what's gonna be happening. Your modern Marvel fan, maybe they don't even remember some of the X-Men characters, but they know some of the Guardians characters or Black Panther. You know what I mean? Captain Marvel may seem like a strange pick, but she's fantastic. She fits the gameplay. She fits the story, and they're gonna be really pushing her as a strong female lead all the way up into the movie. We're trying to take everything into account and choose the best characters.


    Nope. Complete and utter bulls***.
    Kind Regards,
    Darmik
    voldothegr8 4 hours ago#93
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    Seaman_Prime 4 hours ago#94
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

    Everyone likes X-men you clown
    Xelltrix  black4 hours ago#95
    Seaman_Prime posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.

    Everyone likes X-men you clown


    Yeah, wtf kind of ridiculous statement is that, lmao. X-Men are loved by pretty much everyone who likes cartoons/comics/superheroes.

    That's like complaining that people are Spider-Man fans or something, wtf.
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    Kim Kusanagi 4 hours ago#96
    SSJGrimReaper posted...
    pls love carol


    pls love tony!
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    Kim Kusanagi 4 hours ago#97
    Xelltrix posted...
    I love Disney but this stuff pisses me off. What angered me the most is them straight-up rewriting Pietro and Wanda as never having been mutants in the comic AND movie universe because they want to use them. Seriously, go f yourselves.


    what?
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    Kim Kusanagi 4 hours ago#98
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    ChromaticAngel posted...
    Veggeta_EDGE posted...
    Look at this f***ing topic. Everyone is all of a sudden is a X-Men fan just to spite Capcom. How far you guys will dig to just Capcom. f***ing pathetic.


    Sorry you're angry that a lot of people won't get to play their favorite characters that have been a staple for the entire series.

    *All of a sudden it's their favorite character.


    I've been playing w Wolverine since CotA first came out.

    Also with Cyke whenever he's playable.
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    Xelltrix  black4 hours ago#99
    Kim Kusanagi posted...
    Xelltrix posted...
    I love Disney but this stuff pisses me off. What angered me the most is them straight-up rewriting Pietro and Wanda as never having been mutants in the comic AND movie universe because they want to use them. Seriously, go f yourselves.


    what?


    They rewrote them in the movies as never being mutants, obviously. That I was like, fine, whatever, cool.

    But now they're apparently rewriting them in the comics and history as well to never have been humans so that they won't be a part of the X-Men universe anymore.So stupid.
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    ManSpread 3 hours ago#100
    Xelltrix posted...
    Kim Kusanagi posted...
    Xelltrix posted...
    I love Disney but this stuff pisses me off. What angered me the most is them straight-up rewriting Pietro and Wanda as never having been mutants in the comic AND movie universe because they want to use them. Seriously, go f yourselves.


    what?


    They rewrote them in the movies as never being mutants, obviously. That I was like, fine, whatever, cool.

    But now they're apparently rewriting them in the comics and history as well to never have been humans so that they won't be a part of the X-Men universe anymore.So stupid.

    Last comic I read their dad was retconned (again) to no longer being Magneto.
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      lostoutlawnb 2 hours ago#101
      Ive never been a fan of Dragon Ball Z but those game look really fun.
      it seriously blows my mind how much contempt game producers show to their fans.

      also amazing how many of said fans stick up for them!
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      Nobody remembers Wolverine, even though literally Logan came out this year. The f***?
      I have nothing else to say
      ModLogic 1 hour ago#104
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