June 14, 2017

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QuantumScript 2 hours ago#1
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html

"His online presence was largely defined by his politics. For example, his public Facebook posts date back to 2012 and are nearly all about his support for leftist politics. He was passionate about tax hikes on the rich and universal health care."

I wonder which CEman it was. :/
Doom_Art 2 hours ago#2
there's a lot of 66 year old former small business owners on CE

am i rite?
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s0nicfan 2 hours ago#3
He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.
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It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think they're being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.
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Darklit_Minuet 2 hours ago#5
s0nicfan posted...
He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

This
green butter 2 hours ago#6
s0nicfan posted...
He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what? far left loves guns
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Antifar 2 hours ago#7
Yes he was. 

And?
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Antifar posted...
Yes he was. 

And?

"Those damn liberals!"
s0nicfan 2 hours ago#9
green butter posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what


lol I know, that's crazy right? Sounds totally ridiculous. Imagine if you used that kind of logic in response to other public attacks.
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Were_Wyrm  awake to mic2 hours ago#10
Social justice gunslinger, warriors aren't proficient with guns.
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Doom_Art 2 hours ago#11
Antifar posted...
Yes he was. 

And?

clearly we should all start supporting Trump and the GOP

god antifar didn't you get the memo
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Sir Will 2 hours ago#12
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of s***.
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Sir Will posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of s***.

Just don't respond to him and he'll usually leave. 

He's a bottom feeder troll.
Sir_gmon 2 hours ago#14
Kinda makes me wonder what stance the NRA takes on this connundrum
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COVxy 2 hours ago#15
Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.
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QuantumScript 2 hours ago#16
Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.
green butter 2 hours ago#17
s0nicfan posted...
green butter posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He owned a gun, therefore he couldn't possibly be far left.

lol what


lol I know, that's crazy right? Sounds totally ridiculous. Imagine if you used that kind of logic in response to other public attacks.

the far left loves guns, stop talking out of your ass
QuantumScript 2 hours ago#18
COVxy posted...
Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.


It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"
tremain07 2 hours ago#19
COVxy posted...
Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.
I got nothing
voldothegr8 2 hours ago#20
Sir Will posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of s***.

I see no fault with what he said, I've been blaming the media for all this political violence for years now. The media which is mostly controlled by the left.
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QuantumScript posted...
Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.

You take CE way too seriously.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sir Will posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of s***.

Just don't respond to him and he'll usually leave. 

He's a bottom feeder troll.


Having trouble accepting that some people on your side get violent when they're not given muh freebies?
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CruelBuffalo 2 hours ago#23
QuantumScript posted...
Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.



Which one of the users here have said that?

And if you are saying this shooter represents all liberals do the other shooters represent all conservatives/whites/etc?
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think they're being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.


Or it shows how dangerous extremism can get no matter which side you are on.
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COVxy 2 hours ago#25
tremain07 posted...
COVxy posted...
Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.


And to the extent to which it's true on both sides, it's pathetic. 

It's pathetic either way.
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voldothegr8 posted...
Sir Will posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
It just goes to show how dangerous the rhetoric of the left is. They spend years telling their constituents that they should have free healthcare, college, etc. It builds up such a massive sense of entitlement that of course some people are going to snap when they think their being unfairly denied other people's money and resources.

...you're so full of s***.

I see no fault with what he said, I've been blaming the media for all this political violence for years now. The media which is mostly controlled by the left.


I blame the idiots who listen to the media more than I blame the media. Otherwise, I agree 100%.
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Doom_Art 2 hours ago#27
QuantumScript posted...
It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"


>is against dehumanizing opposition
>calls opposition "keyboard warriors"

also wtf are you talking about

the alt right has been slinging "cuck" and "sjw" nonstop. that's not even starting on the horrifying behavior/slang for muslims or immigrants

this is a huge issue with our discourse, but let's not bury our heads in the sand and pretend one side is the problem, mkay?
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QuantumScript 2 hours ago#28
COVxy posted...
tremain07 posted...
COVxy posted...
Imagine being someone who thinks this venerates their political stance.

"See, the other side really is crazy!"

So pathetic.

o basically everybody? Come on, don't pretend like both sides aren't keeping score of every incident so they can use against each other. Just watch next week some idiot will do some stupid thing and the first thing out of the news and peoples mouthes will be which side he was on.


And to the extent to which it's true on both sides, it's pathetic. 

It's pathetic either way.


Then why do you only say it's pathetic when someone does it to your side? lol
QuantumScript 2 hours ago#29
Doom_Art posted...
QuantumScript posted...
It was more along the lines of "when your side of choice dehumanizes the opposition by calling them Nazis, bigots, racists, etc, don't be surprised if keyboard warriors become violent"


>is against dehumanizing opposition
>calls opposition "keyboard warriors"

also wtf are you talking about

the alt right has been slinging "cuck" and "sjw" nonstop. that's not even starting on the horrifying behavior/slang for muslims or immigrants

this is a huge issue with our discourse, but let's not bury our heads in the sand and pretend one side is the problem, mkay?


i don't see how being called a sjw or a keyboard warrior is in any way comparable to being dehumanized by being called a Nazi
COVxy 2 hours ago#30
QuantumScript posted...
Then why do you only say it's pathetic when someone does it to your side? lol


I don't. Your selective attention is the cherry to this s***cake of a topic though.
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Ammonitida 2 hours ago#31
It went like this

Libs were like, "damn, a left-winger like us, but at least he was white"


Conservs were like, "damn, I would have preferred a Muslim, but an anti-Trumper BernieBro will do".
Giant_Aspirin 2 hours ago#32
yeah, he was, and he was also bats*** insane. that doesn't prove anything about "Liberals". lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?
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Doom_Art 2 hours ago#33
voldothegr8 posted...
I see no fault with what he said, I've been blaming the media for all this political violence for years now. The media which is mostly controlled by the left.

yea fox, breitbart, infowars, and all the weirdly named facebook/twitter "news" sources are totally left wing guyz


Anyway, I read WaPo, NYT, and HuffPo (when I feel like indulging my bias), I watch MSNBC and CNN, and I enjoy several left wing podcasts

And I have never shot an elected official. Nor has the thought ever crossed my mind.
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voldothegr8 2 hours ago#34
Giant_Aspirin posted...
lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?

What's your point, that two wrongs make a right?
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Giant_Aspirin 2 hours ago#35
voldothegr8 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?

What's your point, that two wrongs make a right?


my point is that him being "Liberal" is literally meaningless and only serves to further this pointless f***ing partisan bulls*** that plagues our country. anyone pointing that out and thinking it somehow makes "liberals" look bad is a flaming moron.
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QuantumScript 2 hours ago#36
Giant_Aspirin posted...
lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?


The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing s*** like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.

And make no mistake about it, that kind of tribalism and exaggeration on the left has gotten so bad that there are still going to be people (even on CE) that support what the shooter did and who wish he did more. I'd tag them but I don't want to get modded.
Giant_Aspirin 2 hours ago#37
QuantumScript posted...
partisan bulls***


yup

i can take your exact quote and replace "left" with "right" and it still holds true. grow up and pull your head out of your ass.
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Antifar 2 hours ago#38
The daily discourse and outrage of trying to pin on one side or another the heinous deeds of an individual has gotten tiring, and more importantly it too often ignores or exculpates the more mundane violence inherent to the system. 

Today's shooter committed a heinous action regardless of his target or affiliation; also, 10 people have died in ICE custody this year. The Portland killer was a monster regardless of which identity you wish to pin on him (he's fun because as a white supremacist and former Sanders supporter, you can blame both sides for him!) Also more mothers die giving birth in Texas than anywhere in the developed world.
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CruelBuffalo 2 hours ago#39
So it's ok for Proud to do it to liberals (repeatedly in this topic) but not the other side. And only the left does it. And he hasn't specifically pointed to any of us saying anything about all trump supporters being Nazis but continues to build his straw man. 

This is like peak s***posting
Amputation  meltdown2 hours ago#40
QuantumScript posted...
Oh, I see. If a conservative shoots someone, they're just living up to being a Nazi, racist, bigot, or whatever.

But if a leftist shoots someone, it's just a unique situation and far leftism doesn't have anything to do with fascism or violence.

Got it.


Actually, that's pretty damn accurate, although I know you didn't intend it to be.
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Antifar 2 hours ago#41
QuantumScript posted...
here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist. 

But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.
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treewojima 2 hours ago#42
nobody really gives a s*** about violence anymore, they're just happy to be able to use it to further an agenda
Ammonitida 2 hours ago#43
Antifar posted...
(he's fun because as a white supremacist

That's funny because it's false. He was anti-racist and called Trump supporters "redneck peckerwood hillbillies pretending they aint racist".
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It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.
Ammonitida 2 hours ago#45
Antifar posted...
QuantumScript posted...
here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist

But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.


Cite?
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Ammonitida 2 hours ago#47
sktgamer_13dude posted...
It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.


Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.
SpreadManning 2 hours ago#48
Violent Social Justice Radicals. Nothing surprising, really.
QuantumScript posted...
The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing s*** like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.


This. Let's not forget that Hillary Clinton considered Robert Byrd a friend and to be reformed but called half of Trump's supporters irredeemable. She is saying that someone who recruited over 100 people into the KKK can be be reformed but tens of millions of people who supported Trump cannot be.
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Antifar 2 hours ago#50
Ammonitida posted...
He was anti-racist

Harassing Muslim women and then killing those who intervene is a weird way to show that. If you would prefer I call him a bigot instead of a racist, fine, whatever.
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    Giant_Aspirin 2 hours ago#51
    Ammonitida posted...
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.


    Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.


    and some of "the right" are happy about it too because it lets them wage war on "the left". see: this topic
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    QuantumScript 2 hours ago#52
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    Ammonitida posted...
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.


    Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.


    and some of "the right" are happy about it too because it lets them wage war on "the left". see: this topic


    You are misinformed. I'm not happy that someone died and that this is what it takes to point out the hypocrisy and danger of leftist rhetoric.
    Antifar 2 hours ago#53
    Ammonitida posted...
    Antifar posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

    To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist

    But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.


    Cite?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-majority-whip-scalise-confirms-he-spoke-to-white-nationalists-in-2002/2014/12/29/7f80dc14-8fa3-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html?utm_term=.03ce3934ccbf
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    Forgot that TC was Proudclown. Now this topic makes a s***load more sense.
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    Ammonitida posted...
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.


    Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.

    Yeah and those celebrating are stupid and no better than most Trump supporters. 

    A guy got shot because someone didn't like what he thought. That's stupid.
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    Ammonitida 2 hours ago#57
    Antifar posted...
    Ammonitida posted...
    He was anti-racist

    Harassing Muslim women and then killing those who intervene is a weird way to show that. If you would prefer I call him a bigot instead of a racist, fine, whatever.


    His hate for Islam was not rooted in alt-right ideology, but rather his hatred for monotheism because "they killed my pagan ancestors", to quote him.
    QuantumScript posted...
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    Ammonitida posted...
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    It's as if Proudclad thinks the left is happy the guy got shot.


    Many on twitter are. Several columnists had to delete their tweets.


    and some of "the right" are happy about it too because it lets them wage war on "the left". see: this topic


    You are misinformed. I'm not happy that someone died and that this is what it takes to point out the hypocrisy and danger of leftist rhetoric.

    You're doing the same thing you'd b**** about a liberal doing when talking about a far-right shooter. 

    Shut the f*** up.
    Ammonitida 2 hours ago#59
    Antifar posted...
    Ammonitida posted...
    Antifar posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

    To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist

    But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.


    Cite?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-majority-whip-scalise-confirms-he-spoke-to-white-nationalists-in-2002/2014/12/29/7f80dc14-8fa3-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html?utm_term=.03ce3934ccbf


    But the adviser said the congressman didn’t know at the time about the group’s affiliation with racists and neo-Nazi activists.


    Has he personally said anything racist?
    Amputation  meltdown2 hours ago#60
    Ammonitida posted...
    Antifar posted...
    Ammonitida posted...
    Antifar posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    here are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots

    To be clear, Steve Scalise is a racist

    But the punishment for racism isn't death, and even if it was, taking the law into your own hands is not the way to go about that.


    Cite?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-majority-whip-scalise-confirms-he-spoke-to-white-nationalists-in-2002/2014/12/29/7f80dc14-8fa3-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html?utm_term=.03ce3934ccbf


    But the adviser said the congressman didn’t know at the time about the group’s affiliation with racists and neo-Nazi activists.


    Has he personally said anything racist?


    So he's stupid and racist.
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    Lightsasori 2 hours ago#61
    Do we really have to go into identity politics now? I think our big concern should be on how to deal with mental illness because the shooter was definitely not right in the head.
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    Lightsasori posted...
    Do we really have to go into identity politics now? I think our big concern should be on how to deal with mental illness because the shooter was definitely not right in the head.


    Correct. He was left in the head which is what we're discussing - to what extent the dangerous leftist rhetoric that he bought in to contributed to his actions.
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    CrimsonRage 2 hours ago#63
    "Look what the dehumanizing and toxic rhetoric of the left causes! Aren't they all terrible and horrible people, huh?
    AugustAdoulin 2 hours ago#64
    DifferentialEquation posted...
    Lightsasori posted...
    Do we really have to go into identity politics now? I think our big concern should be on how to deal with mental illness because the shooter was definitely not right in the head.


    Correct. He was left in the head which is what we're discussing - to what extent the dangerous leftist rhetoric that he bought in to contributed to his actions.


    What is dangerous about wanting tax hikes for the rich and wanting universal healthcare? How in the world is that dangerous rhetoric? :u You have no clue what you're even talking about. Left or right has nothing to do with it. He's just crazy. 

    The next time an alt-right cuck goes off on a shooting spree I'll be sure to blame the dangerous right wing rhetoric for it.
    voldothegr8 2 hours ago#65
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    DifferentialEquation posted...
    Lightsasori posted...
    Do we really have to go into identity politics now? I think our big concern should be on how to deal with mental illness because the shooter was definitely not rightin the head.


    Correct. He was left in the head which is what we're discussing - to what extent the dangerous leftist rhetoric that he bought in to contributed to his actions.


    What is dangerous about wanting tax hikes for the rich and wanting universal healthcare? How in the world is that dangerous rhetoric? :u You have no clue what you're even talking about. Left or right has nothing to do with it. He's just crazy. 

    The next time an alt-right cuck goes off on a shooting spree I'll be sure to blame the dangerous right wing rhetoric for it.

    You know damn well that's not the kind of rhetoric we're discussing here.
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    Amputation  meltdown2 hours ago#66
    voldothegr8 posted...
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    DifferentialEquation posted...
    Lightsasori posted...
    Do we really have to go into identity politics now? I think our big concern should be on how to deal with mental illness because the shooter was definitely not right in the head.


    Correct. He was left in the head which is what we're discussing - to what extent the dangerous leftist rhetoric that he bought in to contributed to his actions.


    What is dangerous about wanting tax hikes for the rich and wanting universal healthcare? How in the world is that dangerous rhetoric? :u You have no clue what you're even talking about. Left or right has nothing to do with it. He's just crazy. 

    The next time an alt-right cuck goes off on a shooting spree I'll be sure to blame the dangerous right wing rhetoric for it.

    You know damn well that's not the kind of rhetoric we're discussing here.


    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?
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    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    See your first mistake was responding to DE seriously. Guy is just a bottom feeder troll.


    translation: DE has different opinions than I do. Waaaahhh!!!!!!
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    DifferentialEquation posted...
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    See your first mistake was responding to DE seriously. Guy is just a bottom feeder troll.


    translation: DE has different opinions than I do. Waaaahhh!!!!!!

    Is there anyone here, besides yourself or other s***posters, that would hesitate to call you a troll?
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    s0nicfan 1 hour ago#70
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.
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    s0nicfan 1 hour ago#71
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html
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    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html

    Shut the f*** up.
    Zeeak4444 1 hour ago#73
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html


    Honestly it's not even worth arguing with Amp or Aug.

    Edit: forgot to add Skt too. 

    Just let them spout off.
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    Ammonitida 1 hour ago#74
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html


    Huffpost is a terrible hate site. A racist South African huffpost editor had to resign recently over hosting a fake SWJ post that told a bunch of dangerous lies about the white minority in South Africa.
    Nomadic View  tear this gooby up1 hour ago#75
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html

    Shut the f*** up.


    XD

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    QuantumScript 1 hour ago#76
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html

    Shut the f*** up.


    Holy f*** you need to stop posting. Look at yourself.
    Amputation  meltdown1 hour ago#77
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html


    So dumb s*** by literally a few people makes left wing rhetoric dangerous?
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    QuantumScript 1 hour ago#78
    Ammonitida posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html


    Huffpost is a terrible hate site. A racist South African huffpost editor had to resign recently over hosting a fake SWJ post that told a bunch of dangerous lies about the white minority in South Africa.


    Yeah, the situation in South Africa is pretty f***ed up, too. Some whites getting murdered and/or forced off their property just because they're white. Won't be long now before it's like Zimbabwe. 

    And the politicians there are openly anti-white people.
    VectorChaos 1 hour ago#79
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.

    People said the same thing about Bernie as a candidate and Obama as president.
    Ad Hominem.
    Zeeak4444 1 hour ago#81
    Amputation posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Also, this is a Huffpo article saying trump needs to be executed from June 11 (which they removed after this attack):
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XJ3ktGIGyz8J:www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    EDIT: And here's another one from huffpo from a few days before that saying violence is justified against trump:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/sorry-liberals-a-violent-_b_10316186.html


    So dumb s*** by literally a few people makes left wing rhetoric dangerous?


    Imagine being this oblivious and out of touch with not only reality but his own hypocrisy.

    Quite fascinating really.
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    Asherlee10 1 hour ago#82
    COVxy posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    Then why do you only say it's pathetic when someone does it to your side? lol


    I don't. Your selective attention is the cherry to this s***cake of a topic though.


    lmao
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    Ganon19 1 hour ago#83
    smh

    Innocent people almost lost their lives today and people only bring up politics.

    smh.
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    Nomadic View  tear this gooby up1 hour ago#84
    Ganon19 posted...
    smh

    Innocent people almost lost their lives today and people only bring up politics.

    smh.


    Change your FB color filter and #prayfor[terroristattack]. You're not holier than the other people in this topic.
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    COVxy 1 hour ago#85
    QuantumScript posted...
    Holy f*** you need to stop posting. Look at yourself.


    I don't know, I don't think that cherry picking a few ridiculous opinion pieces requires much of a response.

    Seems to me that him even responding was a gift.
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    QuantumScript 1 hour ago#86
    COVxy posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    Holy f*** you need to stop posting. Look at yourself.


    I don't know, I don't think that cherry picking a few ridiculous opinion pieces requires much of a response.

    Seems to me that him even responding was a gift.


    skt responding is never gift. His s***posting is as common as your own lmao
    Antifar 1 hour ago#87
    Ganon19 posted...
    Innocent people almost lost their lives today and people only bring up politics.

    Innocent people have lost their lives today. Politics is why we care about the ones who didn't.
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    AugustAdoulin 55 minutes ago#91
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.


    And republicans didn't call Obama "dangerous"? They were constantly fear mongering over him. Calling someone dangerous isn't going to motive a sane person to take the law into their own hands. That is ridiculous. 

    Republicans call tons of people "dangerous." They call immigrants "dangerous" too all the time. Is that dangerous rhetoric too? Couldn't it "motivate" people to stop those dangerous immigrants on their own?
    Suchomimus 48 minutes ago#92
    QuantumScript posted...
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?


    The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing s*** like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.

    And make no mistake about it, that kind of tribalism and exaggeration on the left has gotten so bad that there are still going to be people (even on CE) that support what the shooter did and who wish he did more. I'd tag them but I don't want to get modded.


    100% this. Violence by leftists is becoming normalized due to casual "nazi" rhetoric"
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    Zeeak4444 45 minutes ago#93
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.


    And republicans didn't call Obama "dangerous"? They were constantly fear mongering over him. Calling someone dangerous isn't going to motive a sane person to take the law into their own hands. That is ridiculous. 

    Republicans call tons of people "dangerous." They call immigrants "dangerous" too all the time. Is that dangerous rhetoric too? Couldn't it "motivate" people to stop those dangerous immigrants on their own?


    Yes. That's why people don't like that message either. We've seen plenty of immigrants and even regular citizens attacked because of these messages.

    Why would you want the left to follow suite and create more of these situations just because "the right did it"?
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    Webmaster4531 33 minutes ago#94
    Zeeak4444 posted...
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.


    And republicans didn't call Obama "dangerous"? They were constantly fear mongering over him. Calling someone dangerous isn't going to motive a sane person to take the law into their own hands. That is ridiculous. 

    Republicans call tons of people "dangerous." They call immigrants "dangerous" too all the time. Is that dangerous rhetoric too? Couldn't it "motivate" people to stop those dangerous immigrants on their own?


    Yes. That's why people don't like that message either. We've seen plenty of immigrants and even regular citizens attacked because of these messages.

    Why would you want the left to follow suite and create more of these situations just because "the right did it"?

    Personally because I believe in freedom of speech and that most people are sane enough to know a dangerous person doesn't mean they deserve vigilante death.
    Ad Hominem.
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    AugustAdoulin 32 minutes ago#95
    Zeeak4444 posted...

    Why would you want the left to follow suite and create more of these situations just because "the right did it"?


    Calling someone dangerous in and of itself isn't a problem imo. There are plenty of people who are legitimately dangerous. Trump is literally dangerous to the planet because of his view on climate change. Trump's crazy tweets to other world leaders are dangerous. Trump alienating us from the UN is dangerous, etc. That is just being honest. It isn't motivate a sane person to try and literally kill Donald Trump though. 

    Calling an entire group of people dangerous is different though. I would totally agree with you if Bernie had said something like "all republicans are dangerous!" since that is pretty much fear mongering against a nebulous threat. 

    When you call someone who has demonstrated reasons for why they're dangerous I don't see why calling that out is harmful. Unless you are directly calling for people to kill them or something.
    Nomadic View  tear this gooby up30 minutes ago#96
    Suchomimus posted...
    QuantumScript posted...
    Giant_Aspirin posted...
    lots of Conservatives have done some pretty detestable, inhuman s***. so, what's your point?


    The point was that the left needs to practice what they preach and stop dehumanizing the right, because it just leads to violent leftists doing s*** like this. There are consequences to exaggerating what the right is like, there are consequences to calling the right Nazis or racists or bigots. You cheapen those words, and you also inspire violent people to take up arms against innocent people because of politics.

    And make no mistake about it, that kind of tribalism and exaggeration on the left has gotten so bad that there are still going to be people (even on CE) that support what the shooter did and who wish he did more. I'd tag them but I don't want to get modded.


    100% this. Violence by leftists is becoming normalized due to casual "nazi" rhetoric"


    It certainly seems that way. However, I still want them to have the right to say whatever nonsense they want.
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    sktgamer_13dude 22 minutes ago#97
    "Oh no it was a leftist who did it! Must mean all leftists are like this guy!!!! I mean, here's a couple more crazies as well! Oh wait, don't post s*** about right wingers doing something stupid and horrid; that doesn't count!"

    Literally what the s***posters here are trying to say.
    s0nicfan 20 minutes ago#98
    sktgamer_13dude posted...
    "Oh no it was a leftist who did it! Must mean all leftists are like this guy!!!! I mean, here's a couple more crazies as well! Oh wait, don't post s*** about right wingers doing something stupid and horrid; that doesn't count!"

    Literally what the s***posters here are trying to say.


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    Zeeak4444 18 minutes ago#99
    Webmaster4531 posted...
    Zeeak4444 posted...
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.


    And republicans didn't call Obama "dangerous"? They were constantly fear mongering over him. Calling someone dangerous isn't going to motive a sane person to take the law into their own hands. That is ridiculous. 

    Republicans call tons of people "dangerous." They call immigrants "dangerous" too all the time. Is that dangerous rhetoric too? Couldn't it "motivate" people to stop those dangerous immigrants on their own?


    Yes. That's why people don't like that message either. We've seen plenty of immigrants and even regular citizens attacked because of these messages.

    Why would you want the left to follow suite and create more of these situations just because "the right did it"?

    Personally because I believe in freedom of speech and that most people are sane enough to know a dangerous person doesn't mean they deserve vigilante death.


    Don't get me wrong I do as well. I don't even have a problem with it myself.

    I was just trying to explain that those critical of this are also critical of the rights messages.

    Obviously not all (probably not even the majority).
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    Ammonitida 16 minutes ago#100
    Zeeak4444 posted...
    AugustAdoulin posted...
    s0nicfan posted...
    Amputation posted...

    Then what rhetoric is dangerous from the left?


    4 days ago:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/index.html

    Sanders also took a series of stinging shots at Trump, labeling him "perhaps the worst and most dangerous president in the history of our country" and a habitual liar.

    The guy was crazy, and it could be a complete coincidence, but nevertheless Bernie said, as part of his "political revolution" tour, to take down trump and called him dangerous, and 3 days later an avid Bernie supporter shot up a bunch of GOP.


    And republicans didn't call Obama "dangerous"? They were constantly fear mongering over him. Calling someone dangerous isn't going to motive a sane person to take the law into their own hands. That is ridiculous. 

    Republicans call tons of people "dangerous." They call immigrants "dangerous" too all the time. Is that dangerous rhetoric too? Couldn't it "motivate" people to stop those dangerous immigrants on their own?


    Yes. That's why people don't like that message either. We've seen plenty of immigrants and even regular citizens attacked because of these messages.

    Why would you want the left to follow suite and create more of these situations just because "the right did it"?


    Indeed. I hate the right's fear mongering over immigrants, illegal or otherwise.
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