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I thought docked was supposed to boost performance not make it worse. Can this console really not handle Zelda graphics in 1080p? The framerate is legit bad
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A patch later ...aaaaannnd it's gone.
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Resident Weevil posted...
A patch later ...aaaaannnd it's gone. Yep, friend forgot to do the Zelda update and before/after were amazing!!
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Man that's dissappointing but it kinda makes sense. On hand held it runs at 720p whereas docked it runs at 1080 however the dock doesn't have any hardware that would boost performance so I can see why that happens. But man Zelda is a Wii U game and the switch is brand new and already having performance issues. Bad omen.
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Yeah, that was a big complaint from reviews. It seems the Switch is great in handheld mode, but dose not do as good on the Tv. And it aint just Zelda either!!
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Given the reviews I figured it would happen only once in awhile but for me it's happening a lot. It's a Wii U port more or less but the frame rate issues are borderline unacceptable. It's a lot of fun though.
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Patch? Better go buy some memory cards...
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Darth-Hater posted...
Patch? Better go buy some memory cards... Even better just download more RAM. |
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kloud 11 posted...
I thought docked was supposed to boost performance No it's not supposed to. There's no processing power in the dock. It's just for charging and connecting to the tv. Nintendo does have a patent on a dock that increases the processing power of a handheld system, but that's not what this is, nor did they ever say it would be. |
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stop3 posted...
kloud 11 posted...I thought docked was supposed to boost performance Yep. It's more like the difference between battery and a/c mode. The dock is a piece of plastic, nothing more.
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It's really simple. It's a Wii U game ported in a rush for the Switch.
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have you updated it though? if you already did, then damn that sucks :\ how bad are we talking about here?
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Since this game is basically a WiiU port and not optimized for Switch, it means that the lower mode closer to that of the WiiU (so, handheld mode) will run better.
It's not representative of the Switch's docked mode as a whole. For instance, Fast RMX is said to run 1080p at 60 FPS in docked. And I imagine Odyssey will run better in docked too, since that's purely a Switch game.
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Shmashter posted...
have you updated it though? if you already did, then damn that sucks :\ how bad are we talking about here? Updated and like Dark Souls blighttown bad at times |
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kloud 11 posted...
Shmashter posted...have you updated it though? if you already did, then damn that sucks :\ how bad are we talking about here? well s***. how often? |
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**** Nintendo's hardware philosophy.
They let it constantly detrimentally affect their software just to be their own unique little snowflake. But no, specs don't matter (as I've been told over and over), and we can't have them being a clone! I for one love the fact that we have to sacrifice frame rate and tolerate IN GAME FREEZING so we can play on the toilet. Because all of us deep down understand that portability is why we game, not the games themselves. |
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We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from a few areas where it drops frames when docked. Troll thread.
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You guys defending it are weird - I bought it knowing its a handheld that has a port to connect it to a TV. Its using a mobile processor : PC guys know for years that an intel i7 on a laptop is a snail compared to an i7 on a PC. Mobile processors are simply so much slower than its non mobile counterpart, due to size, heating, battery power, etc.
And also in the PC arena, "my skyrim runs better on my i3 than on my i7 because its a i3 port to i7 and not created for i7" says no one ever. Better hardware is better hardware, period. Your nintendo emulator has to slow down its framerate so that you can play those old FF1, otherwise your game would hop along like a rabbit on your PC. Don't fret, there will be good games coming out. Ever seen World of Final Fantasy on the Vita? Its freaking gorgeous. Mobile gaming can be great - especially after 3Ds, you guys are going to see some fantastic thing. Just realize your expectation on this system. Its a handheld device with an HDMI port to TV. The big innovation is its removable joy con, and its not implemented well yet apparently. |
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stop3 posted...
kloud 11 posted...I thought docked was supposed to boost performance Docked mode is supposed to run and/or look better than handheld mode. There's no processing power in the dock, however, the Switch is using higher clock speeds in docked mode, whereas handheld is clocked lower to preserve battery life.
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gymnast_79 posted...
Man that's dissappointing but it kinda makes sense. On hand held it runs at 720p whereas docked it runs at 1080 however the dock doesn't have any hardware that would boost performance so I can see why that happens. But man Zelda is a Wii U game and the switch is brand new and already having performance issues. Bad omen. Zelda wasn't built from ground up for the switch...Its basically a better port... |
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RedCubix posted...
**** Nintendo's hardware philosophy. You are neither clever nor right. Passive-aggressive sarcastic trolling is a sign of weakness.
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gymnast_79 posted...
Man that's dissappointing but it kinda makes sense. On hand held it runs at 720p whereas docked it runs at 1080 however the dock doesn't have any hardware that would boost performance so I can see why that happens. But man Zelda is a Wii U game and the switch is brand new and already having performance issues. Bad omen. Well we could apply the logic that most launch games pale in comparison to mid and end of life games for all consoles. Hell... the Wii U is a good example of that, but that happens with every console either way.
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Objective question here:
How could this game get PERFECT SCORES from EVERY major review publication with the types of issues being described in this thread? I can't play my Switch until I get home from work, but none of this makes any sense.
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I'm guessing most of this is hyperbole... I've done my fair share of hyperbolic complaining on this site.
When I think of framerate issues, I think of Perfect Dark. Like, 8-15 fps for most of the game. So maybe my calibration is off...
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MetaFalconPunch posted...
RedCubix posted...**** Nintendo's hardware philosophy. Well gee, I'll take note. Making statements in rebuttal without addressing my points directly is indicative of incapability. Show me how I'm wrong, or don't waste my time. |
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Ralizah posted...
We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from when it's not. Logic |
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bluezero posted...
Ralizah posted...We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from when it's not. How does it work? |
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I haven't left the Great Plateau yet, but I haven't seen any slowdown. I thought after running through tall grass, lighting a bunch of stuff on fire, and fighting through a couple enemy camps with no frame rate drop I'd be fine.
When do the slowdowns happen after the update?
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I honestly don't care if it wasn't built from the ground up for the switch. This is their system seller and I can't believe the fps drops happen a lot more often than I thought.
I thought people were exaggerating but after experiencing it myself, I find it quite annoying. Anyone who defends this either will only play handheld mode or has never played any games at 60 fps |
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Arma3dd0n posted...
I honestly don't care if it wasn't built from the ground up for the switch. This is their system seller and I can't believe the fps drops happen a lot more often than I thought. Well no. It's absolutely not a buttery smooth 60 FPS. However I haven't notice it drop below 30 yet. Sure, 60 would be great, but 30 certainly playable. How many games are 60 FPS on PS4 or XBOX One? All the remasteres are, but outside of that, most games are 30.
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morpheus1138 posted...
Objective question here: Objective answer Is that in handheld mode the game performs flawlessly...and itself is a flawless game. After updating my switch and Zelda the framerate in docked mode isn't really very noticible. Basically the game has a few issues like inventory and docked framerate. BUT it is all forgivable and is still leagues better than a lot of games that score tens.
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Ralizah posted...
We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from a few areas where it drops frames when docked. Troll thread. Yeah...someone who owns the game should be called a troll. While someone like you should be listened to. Lolzzz
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RedCubix posted...
MetaFalconPunch posted...RedCubix posted...**** Nintendo's hardware philosophy. You have nothing to rebute since it's just your smartass opinion venom dripped in sarcasm. It'd be a waste of time to actually try persuading you otherwise, so I just call out the crap in these situations and leave it at that. I'm surprised, most people don't even reply to such things.
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Thalidor88 posted...
Arma3dd0n posted...I honestly don't care if it wasn't built from the ground up for the switch. This is their system seller and I can't believe the fps drops happen a lot more often than I thought. unstable 30-60 frame rate is waaaaaaay worse then a solid 30 fps. he wasn't complaining about 30 fps he was complaining about frame rate drops which are a jarring unforgivable problem. also again people don't get mad if a game runs at 30 fps. people get mad if a game is promised 60 fps and it doesn't happen.
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Ralizah posted...
We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from a few areas where it drops frames when docked. Troll thread. Ya the game works just fine. This is a troll thread
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Thalidor88 posted...
Arma3dd0n posted...I honestly don't care if it wasn't built from the ground up for the switch. This is their system seller and I can't believe the fps drops happen a lot more often than I thought. I know it's not 60 fps but 30, and I'm fine with that. I was just saying that some people might not notice it as much because they've never played a game at a constant 60 fps. I used to play halo 5 for months and that was a constant 60 fps, so when the frames drop below 30 in Zelda I notice it and it happens quite often. Mind you I'm only in great plateau so far. And again I'm fine when it's running a smooth 30fps, but it is noticeable when there are fps drops. |
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Fierywater posted...
You guys defending it are weird - I bought it knowing its a handheld that has a port to connect it to a TV. Its using a mobile processor : PC guys know for years that an intel i7 on a laptop is a snail compared to an i7 on a PC. Mobile processors are simply so much slower than its non mobile counterpart, due to size, heating, battery power, etc. well people keep claiming it's 30% more powerful than the wii u, so it's not as simple as handheld vs. console.
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Max58201 posted...
Thalidor88 posted...Arma3dd0n posted...I honestly don't care if it wasn't built from the ground up for the switch. This is their system seller and I can't believe the fps drops happen a lot more often than I thought.
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Digital Foundry just put up a video directly comparing the docked and portable performance confirming the docked performance is indeed WORSE than portable. Link to the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpqaTdflkNU&t=608s
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AceFan84 posted...
Digital Foundry just put up a video directly comparing the docked and portable performance confirming the docked performance is indeed WORSE than portable. Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpqaTdflkNU&t=608s Here's an embed of that vid 
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MetaFalconPunch posted...
Since this game is basically a WiiU port and not optimized for Switch, it means that the lower mode closer to that of the WiiU (so, handheld mode) will run better. That's not how tech works. You don't get boosted performance for underclocking because "it's closer in specs to the original system". Running at a higher clock speed should always boost performance (unless that clock speed is unstable or you're running old software that can't recognize the high specs that has to be run in legacy mode). The handheld mode is like a laptop on battery, and the docked mode is like a laptop on the charger. Plugging in a laptop doesn't technically give any extra performance, but it allows it to operate at full capacity without worrying about battery life. Handheld mode is underclocked, and docked mode lets it run full speed. That boosts performance (over underclocked mode), but it also runs at a higher resolution, which causes the FPS issues. But yes, it being a Wii U port could have an impact on performance because it's not optimized as well. An example of another poor port would be Final Fantasy 13 on the PC, which runs bad on lower end systems that should be able to run it but can run something like Crysis 3 better. From personal experience, another is example is Sonic Lost World that runs better than Sonic Generations on PC despite Generations being newer.
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GoldenSun3DS posted...
MetaFalconPunch posted...Since this game is basically a WiiU port and not optimized for Switch, it means that the lower mode closer to that of the WiiU (so, handheld mode) will run better. To note, Fast RMX is said to run at full 1080p @ 60fps (vs Fast Racing Neo on Wii U at half-720p @ 60fps with drops), and Shin'en said they weren't taking full advantage of the Switch because the game is a port from the Wii U.
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I mean there's all this talk of this being an unoptimized Wii U port and all, but let's look reality in the face: If you're looking for top notch performance in terms of graphics, Switch is not the device you're looking for. I don't doubt that later games will increase performance, but I seriously doubt we're going to see quantum leaps in terms of graphical quality. It's a device that positions itself nicely between the PS3 and the XB1 and that's good enough for me.
Komm suesser Tod
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Chalk it up to a very poor port job by Nintendo. MK8 demonstrates that the Switch is a lot more capable than BotW makes it out to be.
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SkyCrackers posted...
Chalk it up to a very poor port job by Nintendo. MK8 demonstrates that the Switch is a lot more capable than BotW makes it out to be. MK8 is a Wii U game...and it's obviously not nearly as demanding as BotW.
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What is that talk about a patch?
RollinHard posted... Resident Weevil posted...A patch later ...aaaaannnd it's gone.
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Looks like the docked mode is just a rushed job
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kloud 11 posted...
I thought docked was supposed to boost performance not make it worse. Can this console really not handle Zelda graphics in 1080p? The framerate is legit bad The dock can overclock the GPU, so it gets resolution boost, but the dock doesn't affect the CPU at all. This is likely causing the framerate issues. Though, I can't figure out why, other than the fact that the game is rushed out to make it available at launch. If Switch didn't have Zelda at launch, it'd have nothing, so there was no option to delay it even a single day. RedCubix posted... **** Nintendo's hardware philosophy. Thank you for saying it for me. Ralizah posted... We've seen enough footage to know the framerate is fine, aside from a few areas where it drops frames when docked. Troll thread. The only troll in this thread is you. GoldenSun3DS posted... another is example is Sonic Lost World that runs better than Sonic Generations on PC despite Generations being newer. Sonic Generations is multiple years older than Sonic Lost World. :x Generations ran perfectly on my previous PC.
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