April 29, 2017

Another Muslim blogger speaks out against radical Islam and is stabbed to death

The Admiral 3 hours ago#1
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/world/asia/yameen-rasheed-dead-maldives-blogger-dead.html

A liberal blogger who wrote satirical critiques of the Maldivian government and the spread of radical Islam died Sunday after being stabbed in the stairway of his apartment building.

The blogger, Yameen Rasheed, 29, had complained repeatedly to the police about receiving death threats, he said in an interview with The New York Times this year, adding that the police often failed to return his calls or dropped his complaints without investigation.

“In my case, I get multiple kinds of death threats from different people, because I write and do the campaign,” he said. Mr. Rasheed was a coordinator of a campaign to find his friend Ahmed Rilwan Abdulla, a journalist for The Maldives Independent who was abducted in 2014.

The police said that Mr. Rasheed was found with multiple stab wounds in his apartment building in the capital, Malé, shortly before 3 a.m. He was rushed to Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital and died soon after.

The Republic of Maldives, a nation of nearly 1,200 islands southwest of India, is best known as a spectacular vacation destination. But the country, with fewer than 400,000 people, has also become a source of recruits for the Islamic State. The government said at least 49 Maldivians had traveled to Syria to fight with the group, also known as ISIS; a 2015 study by an international security firm said the number was about 200.

The population, which is predominantly Sunni Muslim, has traditionally been liberal in its interpretation of Islam, with women rarely covering their heads. But a more conservative strain of Islam has spread in recent years under the increasing influence of Saudi Arabia, which sends religious leaders to the Maldives and offers scholarships to Maldivian students to study at Saudi universities.


This is a weekly story, unfortunately, but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.
- The Admiral
pinky0926 3 hours ago#2
I'll never understand the "call me a bad guy will you? Well see how you like getting stabbed to death for telling such porky-pies!" mentality.
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Chicken 3 hours ago#4
The people that murdered him are probably considered heroes now.
pinky0926 posted...
I'll never understand the "call me a bad guy will you? Well see how you like getting stabbed to death for telling such porky-pies!" mentality.

it's almost as if there is a difference between muslims who would kill over this and muslims who wouldnt kill over this
The Admiral 3 hours ago#6
pinky0926 posted...
I'll never understand the "call me a bad guy will you? Well see how you like getting stabbed to death for telling such porky-pies!" mentality.


This isn't even satire anymore:

PXgZeed
- The Admiral
ThePrinceFish 3 hours ago#7
AlternativeFAQS posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I'll never understand the "call me a bad guy will you? Well see how you like getting stabbed to death for telling such porky-pies!" mentality.

it's almost as if there is a difference between muslims who would kill over this and muslims who wouldnt kill over this

Yeah, the ones who wouldn't have to pretend that Muhammad wouldn't have killed this guy.
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ASithLord7 3 hours ago#8
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.
The Admiral 3 hours ago#9
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.


They don't exist for long because the radical community intimidate or murder them if they express those views, leaving only the extremist voices and ideals.
- The Admiral
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mattnd2007 2 hours ago#10
irl gamefaqs mods
go join the "expletive not allowed" nazis then. you "expletive not allowed" psycho- Spudger 01/15/17
^ I lol'd
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teepan95 2 hours ago#12
The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.


They don't exist for long because the majority intimidate or murder them if they express those views, leaving only the extremist voices and ideals.

Which is why the fastest growing Islamic denomination is Ahmadiyya, which is arguably the most moderate?
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pinky0926 2 hours ago#13
Moderate (as we understand moderate) definitely exists and is prevalent, but let's not downplay the harmful components as trivial or relegated exclusively to a few terrorist cells.
hockeybub89 2 hours ago#14
CommonStar 2 hours ago#15
People who do things in the name of religion are s***ty. Associating the actions of those people with an entire religion minimizes the s***tiness of those actions and puts the blame entirely on a religion.
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Marklar 2 hours ago#16
At least in the West, moderate Muslims do exist. But they integrate fairly well. 
The problem is that in places where very conservative Islam is the norm, moderates exist with the risk of being outcasts
teepan95 2 hours ago#17
teepan95 posted...
The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.


They don't exist for long because the majority intimidate or murder them if they express those views, leaving only the extremist voices and ideals.

Which is why the fastest growing Islamic denomination is Ahmadiyya, which is arguably the most moderate?

Hell, I'll even throw in a source

https://themuslimtimes.info/2012/11/22/ahmadiyya-muslim-jamaat-the-fastest-growing-jamaat-in-the-fastest-growing-religion/
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teepan95 2 hours ago#18
pinky0926 posted...
Moderate (as we understand moderate) definitely exists and is prevalent, but let's not downplay the harmful components as trivial or relegated exclusively to a few terrorist cells.

I know, I was just countering his point about how moderates were going to die out.
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The Admiral 2 hours ago#19
teepan95 posted...
teepan95 posted...
The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.


They don't exist for long because the majority intimidate or murder them if they express those views, leaving only the extremist voices and ideals.

Which is why the fastest growing Islamic denomination is Ahmadiyya, which is arguably the most moderate?

Hell, I'll even throw in a source

https://themuslimtimes.info/2012/11/22/ahmadiyya-muslim-jamaat-the-fastest-growing-jamaat-in-the-fastest-growing-religion/


How many Muslims practice this type of Islam?
- The Admiral
MangaFan462 2 hours ago#20
Ib4 the Muslim mods delete topic and stab the Admiral...
hockeybub89 2 hours ago#21
The problem isn't that most Muslims are extremists. That isn't how words work and the facts that the citizens of these countries are far and away the biggest victims and that millions upon millions run away proves otherwise.

The problem is radical Islam is in power in these places and allows other radicals to run roughshod over the country. Brutal regimes don't represent the general populace. They crush it.
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hortanz 2 hours ago#22
Admiral what has made you happiest in the last week?
teepan95 1 hour ago#23
The Admiral posted...
teepan95 posted...
teepan95 posted...
The Admiral posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.

Moderate voices that you and people like you constantly claim don't exist.


They don't exist for long because the majority intimidate or murder them if they express those views, leaving only the extremist voices and ideals.

Which is why the fastest growing Islamic denomination is Ahmadiyya, which is arguably the most moderate?

Hell, I'll even throw in a source 

https://themuslimtimes.info/2012/11/22/ahmadiyya-muslim-jamaat-the-fastest-growing-jamaat-in-the-fastest-growing-religion/


How many Muslims practice this type of Islam?

Around 1 percent iirc

Still disproves your claim of the peaceful ones dying out, seeing as how they're the fastest growing
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The Admiral 48 minutes ago#24
Uh, first off, you are using this as an argument against a claim about the majority. A group making up 1% does not refute the point at all. And I'm even going along with you and assuming the 1% is correct without question.

Secondly, the "fastest growing" means nothing because the group is so small. A religion that grows from 1 person to 2 people has 100% growth, and would have a higher growth rate than a different one that went from 1.1 billion to 1.2 billion.
- The Admiral
Haldol 43 minutes ago#25
Not good to generalize.

So why can we call out this apparent trend but not others?
Zikten 25 minutes ago#26
sounds like the cops wanted him to die. they are on the same side as the stabber
Lorcus 4 minutes ago#27
Man we need to feed the world pizza burgers.
GoatHunter 3 minutes ago#28
The Admiral posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/world/asia/yameen-rasheed-dead-maldives-blogger-dead.html

A liberal blogger who wrote satirical critiques of the Maldivian government and the spread of radical Islam died Sunday after being stabbed in the stairway of his apartment building.

The blogger, Yameen Rasheed, 29, had complained repeatedly to the police about receiving death threats, he said in an interview with The New York Times this year, adding that the police often failed to return his calls or dropped his complaints without investigation.

“In my case, I get multiple kinds of death threats from different people, because I write and do the campaign,” he said. Mr. Rasheed was a coordinator of a campaign to find his friend Ahmed Rilwan Abdulla, a journalist for The Maldives Independent who was abducted in 2014.

The police said that Mr. Rasheed was found with multiple stab wounds in his apartment building in the capital, Malé, shortly before 3 a.m. He was rushed to Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital and died soon after.

The Republic of Maldives, a nation of nearly 1,200 islands southwest of India, is best known as a spectacular vacation destination. But the country, with fewer than 400,000 people, has also become a source of recruits for the Islamic State. The government said at least 49 Maldivians had traveled to Syria to fight with the group, also known as ISIS; a 2015 study by an international security firm said the number was about 200.

The population, which is predominantly Sunni Muslim, has traditionally been liberal in its interpretation of Islam, with women rarely covering their heads. But a more conservative strain of Islam has spread in recent years under the increasing influence of Saudi Arabia, which sends religious leaders to the Maldives and offers scholarships to Maldivian students to study at Saudi universities.


This is a weekly story, unfortunately, but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.


How come this is news worthy but you deem a post about a white guy hacking liberals with a machete at a US school bait? Make up your mind
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Lorcus 43 seconds ago#29
GoatHunter posted...
The Admiral posted...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/world/asia/yameen-rasheed-dead-maldives-blogger-dead.html

A liberal blogger who wrote satirical critiques of the Maldivian government and the spread of radical Islam died Sunday after being stabbed in the stairway of his apartment building.

The blogger, Yameen Rasheed, 29, had complained repeatedly to the police about receiving death threats, he said in an interview with The New York Times this year, adding that the police often failed to return his calls or dropped his complaints without investigation.

“In my case, I get multiple kinds of death threats from different people, because I write and do the campaign,” he said. Mr. Rasheed was a coordinator of a campaign to find his friend Ahmed Rilwan Abdulla, a journalist for The Maldives Independent who was abducted in 2014.

The police said that Mr. Rasheed was found with multiple stab wounds in his apartment building in the capital, Malé, shortly before 3 a.m. He was rushed to Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital and died soon after.

The Republic of Maldives, a nation of nearly 1,200 islands southwest of India, is best known as a spectacular vacation destination. But the country, with fewer than 400,000 people, has also become a source of recruits for the Islamic State. The government said at least 49 Maldivians had traveled to Syria to fight with the group, also known as ISIS; a 2015 study by an international security firm said the number was about 200.

The population, which is predominantly Sunni Muslim, has traditionally been liberal in its interpretation of Islam, with women rarely covering their heads. But a more conservative strain of Islam has spread in recent years under the increasing influence of Saudi Arabia, which sends religious leaders to the Maldives and offers scholarships to Maldivian students to study at Saudi universities.


This is a weekly story, unfortunately, but it's hard to imagine this religion ever entering modern times when moderate voices denouncing terrorism are intimidated and murdered.


How come this is news worthy but you deem a post about a white guy hacking liberals with a machete at a US school bait? Make up your mind


This Admiral needs a good pizza burger
GoatHunter 13 seconds ago#30
The Admiral posted...
pinky0926 posted...
I'll never understand the "call me a bad guy will you? Well see how you like getting stabbed to death for telling such porky-pies!" mentality.


This isn't even satire anymore:

PXgZeed



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