April 26, 2017

Ontario Basic Income Commentary 1

Adelle Martin
  • Adelle Martin
I'm not a Wynne fan, but this is a step in the right direction. Our country has hundreds of thousands of civil servants engage in nothing but divvying up the right to disperse funds through about a thousand individual bureaucracies.
  • 1 day ago
Kenneth Hewer
  • Kenneth Hewer
this simply proves that Poverty is our governments' Spectator Sport.
  • 1 day ago
Dave Beaudoin
  • Dave Beaudoin
For all those that say she is looking for votes well that part just isn't true. She is going to make 4000 people or families happy, but piss off and alienate over 100,000 people that were denied after they applied. 

This whole thing is like an OLG for 4000 people but the rest of us that are disabled or Homeless or have very low income well were just left out in the cold.. 

YOU DON'T NEED ANY TYPE OF STUDY TO TELL YOU THAT MORE MONEY WILL HELP BENEFIT SINGLE PEOPLE OR FAMILES!!! That's just a... » more
  • 1 day ago
mo bennett
  • mo bennett
nice to see kate's in full re-election mode! what's in your wallet! it's sure not capitol one, but it sure as hell is kathleen wynne!
  • 1 day ago
Jack Holmes
  • Jack Holmes
A 'basic' income could provide the financial incentive to economically challenged parents...?
  • 1 day ago
Jack Holmes
  • Jack Holmes
if government handouts don't incentivize the birth rate then it's all for naught.
  • 1 day ago
Lonnie Donnigan
  • Lonnie Donnigan
I consider this a bribe pure and simple because the elections are coming up. Nobody will get the full amount and what will it get you? Enough to pay your Hydro for one month?
  • 1 day ago
Lonnie Donnigan
  • Lonnie Donnigan
3 year pilot project meaning you would have to give them a majority government for another 4 years and then hope they actually carry out their promise which I doubt they will. The beer and wine in grocery stores was a pilot project too which after Wynne said was not a good idea after all but once she got her majority she had to continue it.
  • 1 day ago
Nick Maple
  • Nick Maple
Who needs a summer job. I can see a lot of people on welfare relocating to Wynne's Ontario. She just needs them to get off their butts and go vote for her in the next election. The gravy train is strong in Ontario.
  • 1 day ago
Maria Morales
  • Maria Morales
How about in BC? Many low income needed not only in Ontario but in the entire Canada. I hope this basic income will reach out a caregiver who are taking care of disabled family member, whose income is completely zero, furthermore many family member who suffered setback and no income generated because of unemployment and disability must be consider for the basic income. Hopefully the government will not go selective but as a general rule pilot project must be for everyone who deserve it.
  • 1 day ago
David Gloag
  • David Gloag
The only ones opposed to this will be the miserly R/W who view poverty as individual failure. Fortunately, they remain a declining minority.
  • 1 day ago
Ian Prest
  • Ian Prest
@David Gloag the only for this scam will be liberals as they believe that they are the ruling party of canada.. poor decision to keep them in power..buying votes.. another expensive liberal scam to fool people.. hydro rates will have to increase even more to help finance this
  • 1 day ago
David Gloag
  • David Gloag
If it helps those who need it most then it will be successful. It is the way of the future in all nations.
  • 1 day ago
Alex Mankovsky
  • Alex Mankovsky
We all collectively already finance corporations (including those not based in Canada) with corporate welfare subsidies, and many govs around the world turn a blind eye to corporate tax evasion in off-shore tax havens, so why not finance some of the 99% with this limited attempt at fairness ? Big cities are places to try this, not small towns, because the most vulnerable people in Toronto, Vancouver and many other cities are struggling to make the ends meet, and the problem is not lack of... » more
  • 1 day ago
Graham Bell
  • Graham Bell
This should be for everyone making under $100k a year before taxes.
  • 1 day ago
David Williams
  • David Williams
I'm on disability and I disagree with this. Not only is it irresponsible, it's trying to buy votes and that makes it wrong. Remeber McGuinty mailing out $200 to every family when he also said "I will not raise taxes"? Well if this isn't just more of the same I'd be shocked. Not one Liberal should be voted into the Provincial Legislature in the upcoming election. Vote them all out.
  • 1 day ago
Debra Kiwat
  • Debra Kiwat
Wynne is the worst Premier in Canada's history .
  • 1 day ago
Anthony Laface
  • Anthony Laface
Gee whiz, I'm relieved to find out that I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea.
  • 1 day ago
Jim Redmond
  • Jim Redmond
You have got to be kidding --- it's not basic income --- it's welfare. Income has to be earned. When is the next Ontario provincial election? Could be the biggest election landslide in history.
  • 1 day ago
Anthony Wright
  • Anthony Wright
@Jim Redmond 

With digital automation of everything from pizza to car manufacturing, it's clear that Canadians are having a hard time finding entry level work. 

The next Ontario election may well be the biggest landslide, but not for the reason stated.
  • 1 day ago
Tim Darron
  • Tim Darron
Helicopter money drops are about to go global as part of the central bank "market operations"
  • 1 day ago
Norman Lamb
  • Norman Lamb
Irresponsible political fools !!! Anything for a vote.
  • 1 day ago
Jack Watkins
  • Jack Watkins
A basic income pretty much makes contributions to CPP redundant. Why would any voter consent to continue making contributions. CPP Reform was an epic fail.
  • 1 day ago
Dougal Fingal
  • Dougal Fingal
It's like getting your old age pension before you age, or EI before you have worked.
  • 1 day ago
Debra Kiwat
  • Debra Kiwat
Another day . . another expensive Liberal gaffe ! Wynne has to go .
  • 1 day ago
Pat Evans
  • Pat Evans
Ridiculous. 
This has already been tried in the world and it doesn't work Wynne knows this. And if she doesn't, she's not smart enough to be leader of the pack.
  • 1 day ago
Brian Desjardins
  • Brian Desjardins
Watch out!Government are crossing the line on this one, demotivate the tax base and I can assure you it will be only a matter of time before the system collapses, "Durkheim" "THE STATE OF NORMLESSNESS"
  • 1 day ago
Peter Parker
  • Peter Parker
I hope it's a success and tens of thousands of more people get on it. Maybe then the Ontario budget will be so crippled that it will guarantee the Liberals will never be re-elected. Who am I kidding? They'd probably get a majority.
  • 1 day ago
jeff wiltone
  • jeff wiltone
This is an interesting social experiment. Because it's people like me who work hard, and pay BIG taxes to pay for this largess, I hope it works to get people up and off the sofa, into a real job. However: if these 3 communities have large middle east immigrant, north Africa or Caribbean populations it will turn into a sinkhole.
  • 1 day ago
Pat Evans
  • Pat Evans
@jeff wiltone Why would they have to get up off the sofa if money was given to them for nothing?
  • 1 day ago
George Jones
  • George Jones
@jeff wiltone Hamilton and Thunder Bay are already rat holes, more or less for the same reasons you stated.
  • 1 day ago
Graham Bell
  • Graham Bell
@jeff wiltone 
 Statistics will show that there are more Caucasians on social assistance (numbers wise not percentagewise) collectively than there are people in the communities you mentioned... Just saying.
  • 1 day ago
Michael Smith
  • Michael Smith
Sure Kathleen. Give people money because they need it. How about giving them something like education and keep them off pot that will make them lazy and not want to work only collect the money you're giving away.
  • 1 day ago
albert franken
  • albert franken
Trump just created 1000s of new jobs in the American timber industry. Wish we had a guy like him instead of our Bon Vivant PM.
  • 1 day ago
Douglas Blake
  • Douglas Blake
Increase and standardize welfare payments ... yes. 
Increase ODSP payments ... yes. 
Increase CPP payments ... yes. 

This ill conceived plan... NO!
  • 1 day ago
Mike Trout
  • Mike Trout
The ever arrogant and inept Wynne and her pack of incompetent Ontario Liberals has failed this Province and Ontario Citizens !! 

ABL 2018
  • 1 day ago
Tracy evans
  • Tracy evans
So I work my ass off so someone else gets a free chq??? Like is this not socialism? ???why should I work if it's just 4 someone else ...
  • 1 day ago
John Gallant
  • John Gallant
@Tracy evans 

If you work for an employer, you are already working for someone else. The goal of employment in private industry is to make your employer money. In return, they have to give you some of it.
  • 1 day ago
Sam Brighton
  • Sam Brighton
@Tracy evans 

I don't have kids... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize your kids education? 

I practically never use health care... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize health care for others? 

I hardly ever drive my car on the public roads... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize public roads for everyone else? 

Slippery slope...
  • 1 day ago
Lucas K
  • Lucas K
And there ya have it... basically can be called Trickle Up Economics!!
  • 1 day ago
Jay McLeod
  • Jay McLeod
This is an idea whose time is coming whether we like it or not. With automation taking over many jobs already and many more to go in future, at some point there won't be enough jobs for our population, at which time either the world moves away from huge profits going to the very few corporations...to being shared among all workers -- or workers are done away with.

It may take taxing corporations in order to provide sustenance for the population in which case funds will be distributed by... » more
  • 1 day ago
Daniel Johnston
  • Daniel Johnston
Who in their right mind would want to even try to run what's left of Ontario when she's finished destroying what's left now? The debt alone will cripple them forever.
  • 1 day ago
Douglas Blake
  • Douglas Blake
Population of Ontario ... 4,887,510 
Minimum payout ... $17,000 

Cost per anum ... $83,087,670,000 

If half the people draw half of the benefit... 

That's still, $20,771,917,500 

Simple question ... where is all this money going to come from? 

They can't get it from taxes, because that would just be taking it right back. 
So... Ms Wynne, how you gonna pay for this?
  • 1 day ago
Douglas Blake
  • Douglas Blake
@Douglas Blake 

4,887,510 *households* ... not people.
  • 1 day ago
Ben Bilodeau
  • Ben Bilodeau
@Douglas Blake The population of Ontario is 13.6 millions
  • 1 day ago
Debra Kiwat
  • Debra Kiwat
@Douglas Blake Ontario pays 1 billion a month to interest on their Liberal debt , Wynne may as well make it 1.1 billion .
  • 1 day ago
David. A. Collins
  • David. A. Collins
So, people on welfare will get a huge raise and people who work will get a much smaller raise. The government thought of this as an incentive right?
  • 1 day ago
Kitty Mistry
  • Kitty Mistry
i think its a good idea as long as the people do something with it and try to make a better life for themselves and family. Lots of ideas are thought about when you do not have money. Lots of the idea's could end up making billions in the future. How do the rich get rich,some do it with the silver spoon, but others lie cheat and steal to get their way to the top. But the real ones are the ones that start out with nothing to get there with hard work and great ideas (creative thinking) that pool... » more
  • 1 day ago
Douglas Blake
  • Douglas Blake
@Kitty Mistry 

At the risk of overt pessimism my experience tells me that given the chance, most people will behave badly... sponging off the system, taking advantage of others and generally acting like jerks.
  • 1 day ago
Chris Burke
  • Chris Burke
I haven't had income for years. 
Little bit I ever did make, went to repairs. 
Don't qualify for anything. 
CR keeps from real job. 
I don't like the idea of being studied. 
I grow own food already. Helps. 
Prefer people just give me some odd jobs. 
I'm old. My brain doesn't match the body. 
lol
  • 1 day ago
Chris Burke
  • Chris Burke
@Chris Burke Besides, location is factor. Long before my trauma of emotion on several fronts forced me to refuse flanking and I excelled towards my financial freedom. I chose not to take it. I left my 'homeland' I took all the skills my family had taught me about work. I climbed mountains. lol I did what I put my mind too, regardless of the obstacles. No lie. Seriously. I'm crazy. But I found the closet thing to piece. 
The very thing that can be taken away instantly. like all things before. 
I wanted to see reforms to the systems, that stop humiliating people on paper. But yeah, I can't even leave the house, my wife can hardly keep up. But yeah, walls do appear,after so many hurdles. If there is never an issue before, I always found a new one. lmao« less
  • 1 day ago
Mike Davis
  • Mike Davis
It is coming eventually. Might be another 20 years but it's going to happen. Automation is expected to take over almost everything including medical and law. All Long Distance Truck drivers are going to lose their jobs. All taxi drivers. All retail clerks. All restaurant employee's. Gone, gone gone. In Japan, robots bring your food to the table.
  • 1 day ago
Michael Smith
  • Michael Smith
@Mike Davis 

Go to Japan. Robots do not serve people. People serve people. And much better than they do here.
  • 1 day ago
Brian Desjardins
  • Brian Desjardins
@Mike Davis Only in Disneyland!Hackers are on the rise!
  • 1 day ago
Flood Nsa
  • Flood Nsa
Whenever I come here and read the uneducated, unhelpful, shallow, finger pointing comments it irks me to no end and I can't believe that some of you may actually be my neighbors, my coworkers. 

So you get a speeding ticket and it's because the cop didn't like your face? You lost your job and it's because of the gawd darn Liberals? Your dog can't poop outside anymore ever since the Conservatives took office? 

Is that how you see the world around you? 

I prefer my own crusty misery over that... » more
  • 1 day ago
Ted Poplaw
  • Ted Poplaw
@Flood Nsa must be great to be so naive..I have some ocean front property in Saskatchewan for sale...
  • 1 day ago
Neil Vukosa
  • Neil Vukosa
@Flood Nsa 

You don't need a pilot project to tell you what this ideological blackhole leads to; a high school history text will suffice
  • 1 day ago
Terry Jeffery
  • Terry Jeffery
Cut Hydro rate , cut Sunshine list over paid salarys hint Hydro CEO . Stop corporate well fare 38 million the Bombardier CEOs extra extra . Stop foreign investors investing in Toronto Real Estate can go on but this is a start
  • 1 day ago
Tracy evans
  • Tracy evans
@Terry Jeffery no its easier to come up with a new tax then with innovative ideas and cuts ..that's why we have a punitive carbon tax coming ..between paying 4 this and that ..u liberal voters and your kids will b broke ..:::)))
  • 1 day ago
Gerald Fremont
  • Gerald Fremont
Is it luck ? I know people who have never put one honest day of work in their entire life. You see , they were fortunate enough to have parents with wealth. 
As a poor sucker I had to work during the summertime when I was still in college like many others. 
Real justice would see that even as a poor sucker you could choose to work or not to work. The greatest majority would choose to work because want it or not the work you do defines your identity. Despite what the cons want you to believe, Most... » more
  • 1 day ago
Robert Borden
  • Robert Borden
I strongly believe ending poverty starts with the children. 

If a child isn't distracted by a life constantly worrying whether or not they will have enough food to eat, or a roof over their head or a family life always in turmoil because they live in poverty, they have a much better chance doing better in school and ending the cycle. 

A guaranteed income is only part of what is needed. Every child should have enough to eat so they can concentrate in school. They should be able to attend post... » more
  • 1 day ago
Tracy evans
  • Tracy evans
@Robert Borden ohh great another tax ...call it the feed the kids so their parents don't have to tax ..;;;))
  • 1 day ago
Antonia Patrick
  • Antonia Patrick
@Robert Borden I totally disagree with you. I grew up in poverty and it was my mom working full-time who inspired me to work hard at school and earn several degrees and succeed financially. You won't succeed if you don't want to work hard. All this money will do is make more people lazy and more people dependent on government. If the government wanted to help the children, they would make sure the following were low for everyone -- utilities, healthy foods, transportation, physical fitness,... » more
  • 1 day ago
Mack MacEven
  • Mack MacEven
Can anyone say VOTE BUYING?
  • 1 day ago
Jeff Davis
  • Jeff Davis
@Mack MacEven A pilot project with a few thousand people is now considered vote buying? Let's be realistic.
  • 1 day ago
Erick Li
  • Erick Li
YEAH I LIKE THAT.. AND I AM NOT PRIVILEGED.. SO PLS GIMME $600 MORE COMPARE TO THE AVERAGE GUY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 

THIS WILL WORK & IT 'LL STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.
  • 1 day ago
simon t august
  • simon t august
that's my money you are giving away. give it back to me, kathleen wynne
  • 1 day ago
Daniel Johnston
  • Daniel Johnston
@simon t august 

Or don't give it in the first place, and they wonder why so much money is hiding outside the country abroad. They created the incentive.
  • 1 day ago
Sharon Harrison
  • Sharon Harrison
WTH is she talking about? Does Ontario have an election on the horizon?
  • 1 day ago
Joseph Nostromo
  • Joseph Nostromo
This government has a disgraceful record and are desparately trying to change the conversation about that, to get them through the next election.
  • 1 day ago
Tracy evans
  • Tracy evans
@Joseph Nostromo trying to draw your attention from her record and the electric bills;;;))
  • 1 day ago

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