- Sam Brighton
@Tracy evans
I don't have kids... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize your kids education?
I practically never use health care... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize health care for others?
I hardly ever drive my car on the public roads... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize public roads for everyone else?
Slippery slope...
I don't have kids... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize your kids education?
I practically never use health care... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize health care for others?
I hardly ever drive my car on the public roads... why should I work and be forced to pay taxes to subsidize public roads for everyone else?
Slippery slope...
- 1 day ago
- Jay McLeod
This is an idea whose time is coming whether we like it or not. With automation taking over many jobs already and many more to go in future, at some point there won't be enough jobs for our population, at which time either the world moves away from huge profits going to the very few corporations...to being shared among all workers -- or workers are done away with.
It may take taxing corporations in order to provide sustenance for the population in which case funds will be distributed by... » more
It may take taxing corporations in order to provide sustenance for the population in which case funds will be distributed by... » more
- 1 day ago
- Douglas Blake
Population of Ontario ... 4,887,510
Minimum payout ... $17,000
Cost per anum ... $83,087,670,000
If half the people draw half of the benefit...
That's still, $20,771,917,500
Simple question ... where is all this money going to come from?
They can't get it from taxes, because that would just be taking it right back.
So... Ms Wynne, how you gonna pay for this?
Minimum payout ... $17,000
Cost per anum ... $83,087,670,000
If half the people draw half of the benefit...
That's still, $20,771,917,500
Simple question ... where is all this money going to come from?
They can't get it from taxes, because that would just be taking it right back.
So... Ms Wynne, how you gonna pay for this?
- 1 day ago
- Kitty Mistry
i think its a good idea as long as the people do something with it and try to make a better life for themselves and family. Lots of ideas are thought about when you do not have money. Lots of the idea's could end up making billions in the future. How do the rich get rich,some do it with the silver spoon, but others lie cheat and steal to get their way to the top. But the real ones are the ones that start out with nothing to get there with hard work and great ideas (creative thinking) that pool... » more
- 1 day ago
- Chris Burke
I haven't had income for years.
Little bit I ever did make, went to repairs.
Don't qualify for anything.
CR keeps from real job.
I don't like the idea of being studied.
I grow own food already. Helps.
Prefer people just give me some odd jobs.
I'm old. My brain doesn't match the body.
lol
Little bit I ever did make, went to repairs.
Don't qualify for anything.
CR keeps from real job.
I don't like the idea of being studied.
I grow own food already. Helps.
Prefer people just give me some odd jobs.
I'm old. My brain doesn't match the body.
lol
- 1 day ago
- Chris Burke
@Chris Burke Besides, location is factor. Long before my trauma of emotion on several fronts forced me to refuse flanking and I excelled towards my financial freedom. I chose not to take it. I left my 'homeland' I took all the skills my family had taught me about work. I climbed mountains. lol I did what I put my mind too, regardless of the obstacles. No lie. Seriously. I'm crazy. But I found the closet thing to piece.
The very thing that can be taken away instantly. like all things before.
I wanted to see reforms to the systems, that stop humiliating people on paper. But yeah, I can't even leave the house, my wife can hardly keep up. But yeah, walls do appear,after so many hurdles. If there is never an issue before, I always found a new one. lmao« less
The very thing that can be taken away instantly. like all things before.
I wanted to see reforms to the systems, that stop humiliating people on paper. But yeah, I can't even leave the house, my wife can hardly keep up. But yeah, walls do appear,after so many hurdles. If there is never an issue before, I always found a new one. lmao« less
- 1 day ago
- Mike Davis
It is coming eventually. Might be another 20 years but it's going to happen. Automation is expected to take over almost everything including medical and law. All Long Distance Truck drivers are going to lose their jobs. All taxi drivers. All retail clerks. All restaurant employee's. Gone, gone gone. In Japan, robots bring your food to the table.
- 1 day ago
- Flood Nsa
Whenever I come here and read the uneducated, unhelpful, shallow, finger pointing comments it irks me to no end and I can't believe that some of you may actually be my neighbors, my coworkers.
So you get a speeding ticket and it's because the cop didn't like your face? You lost your job and it's because of the gawd darn Liberals? Your dog can't poop outside anymore ever since the Conservatives took office?
Is that how you see the world around you?
I prefer my own crusty misery over that... » more
So you get a speeding ticket and it's because the cop didn't like your face? You lost your job and it's because of the gawd darn Liberals? Your dog can't poop outside anymore ever since the Conservatives took office?
Is that how you see the world around you?
I prefer my own crusty misery over that... » more
- 1 day ago
- Terry Jeffery
Cut Hydro rate , cut Sunshine list over paid salarys hint Hydro CEO . Stop corporate well fare 38 million the Bombardier CEOs extra extra . Stop foreign investors investing in Toronto Real Estate can go on but this is a start
- 1 day ago
- Gerald Fremont
Is it luck ? I know people who have never put one honest day of work in their entire life. You see , they were fortunate enough to have parents with wealth.
As a poor sucker I had to work during the summertime when I was still in college like many others.
Real justice would see that even as a poor sucker you could choose to work or not to work. The greatest majority would choose to work because want it or not the work you do defines your identity. Despite what the cons want you to believe, Most... » more
As a poor sucker I had to work during the summertime when I was still in college like many others.
Real justice would see that even as a poor sucker you could choose to work or not to work. The greatest majority would choose to work because want it or not the work you do defines your identity. Despite what the cons want you to believe, Most... » more
- 1 day ago
- Robert Borden
I strongly believe ending poverty starts with the children.
If a child isn't distracted by a life constantly worrying whether or not they will have enough food to eat, or a roof over their head or a family life always in turmoil because they live in poverty, they have a much better chance doing better in school and ending the cycle.
A guaranteed income is only part of what is needed. Every child should have enough to eat so they can concentrate in school. They should be able to attend post... » more
If a child isn't distracted by a life constantly worrying whether or not they will have enough food to eat, or a roof over their head or a family life always in turmoil because they live in poverty, they have a much better chance doing better in school and ending the cycle.
A guaranteed income is only part of what is needed. Every child should have enough to eat so they can concentrate in school. They should be able to attend post... » more
- 1 day ago
- Antonia Patrick
@Robert Borden I totally disagree with you. I grew up in poverty and it was my mom working full-time who inspired me to work hard at school and earn several degrees and succeed financially. You won't succeed if you don't want to work hard. All this money will do is make more people lazy and more people dependent on government. If the government wanted to help the children, they would make sure the following were low for everyone -- utilities, healthy foods, transportation, physical fitness,... » more
- 1 day ago
- simon t august
that's my money you are giving away. give it back to me, kathleen wynne
- 1 day ago
- Sharon Harrison
WTH is she talking about? Does Ontario have an election on the horizon?
- 1 day ago
- Rob Shea
So, pay the lazy? We already have that, it's called welfare.
- 1 day ago
- Robert Borden
@Rob Shea You do realize those on welfare cost you far more than they are given?
Your standard of living would actually increase if people didn't live in poverty. It's not only short-sighted to have such a comment, but completely inaccurate. While there may be some lazy people on welfare, the vast majority would rather have decent paying jobs for an honest days work.
I currently know two people on welfare, and both are desperately trying to find employment. One has been out of work for three... » more
Your standard of living would actually increase if people didn't live in poverty. It's not only short-sighted to have such a comment, but completely inaccurate. While there may be some lazy people on welfare, the vast majority would rather have decent paying jobs for an honest days work.
I currently know two people on welfare, and both are desperately trying to find employment. One has been out of work for three... » more
- 1 day ago
- Cal Spiteri
I am tired of this person buying votes with my tax dollars. It is time for a tax revolt!
- 1 day ago
- William Zandoli
Conservatives sure are panicking over this pilot project. Are they afraid it might work?
- 1 day ago
- Doug Porter
@William Zandoli
LOL!!! It'll work until she runs out of other people's money... and she's already almost at that point now.
LOL!!! It'll work until she runs out of other people's money... and she's already almost at that point now.
- 1 day ago
- Rodney McKay
At $17k/year, a full implementation of this program to reach every adult would only cost $476-billion/year, twice the current federal budget and a quarter of the economy, and most of the money spent on it would be borrowed. Basic Income is not a sustainable concept.
- 1 day ago
- Rodney McKay
@Jeff Davis: If you want to apply means testing to the recipients of this program, then you need a sprawling bureaucracy that absorbs half of the money. Either you give it to everyone or the entire $500B program is in ADDITION to all other existing government programs.
- 1 day ago
- Doug Porter
What's Kathleen going to do when Ontario goes Venezuela?
- 1 day ago
- Rodney McKay
@Doug Porter: Retire on her government pension while her peasants eat cake.
- 1 day ago
- Tony Brydon
If someone earning $7000 per year can apply for the $17000 from tax payers, how is this encouraging them on a career path? They are still in the same $7000 a year job, just getting an additional hand out. This would be a disincentive to earn more. The opposite of the purpose of the program. This is communism. It's just redistribution of wealth without the need to earn it.
- 1 day ago
- William Zandoli
@Tony Brydon
The 1% might have to pay a bit more in taxes so that the working poor can afford to eat properly, but we are not talking about radical change here. And yet you seem afraid?
The 1% might have to pay a bit more in taxes so that the working poor can afford to eat properly, but we are not talking about radical change here. And yet you seem afraid?
- 1 day ago
- Steven Hartwell
Assuming a couple has nothing else, and that's way too many these days, this is OAS plus GIS plus about $ 44 Trillium supplement a couple gets after 65. I've no doubt if one is getting what she's trying to sell, then you'll not get the OAS GIS Trill, and if you do, you won't get anything from the Province. In other words, Wynne is trying to rebrand what is already being done as though it's something new, something more, when it is not either one. With housing and food and everything prices... » more
- 1 day ago
- Robert Borden
A lot of people simply can't see beyond their myopic views.
While on the surface, giving away "free" money for nothing seems absurd, but people need to look beyond the surface. People living in poverty costs society a great deal and trying to end the cycle and crawl out of it isn't easy. Not many will want to live on $17k but it might be enough to get them out of the poverty cycle.
The more people able to get out of poverty will benefit the entire population. There will be less health costs,... » more
While on the surface, giving away "free" money for nothing seems absurd, but people need to look beyond the surface. People living in poverty costs society a great deal and trying to end the cycle and crawl out of it isn't easy. Not many will want to live on $17k but it might be enough to get them out of the poverty cycle.
The more people able to get out of poverty will benefit the entire population. There will be less health costs,... » more
- 1 day ago
- Robert Loblaw
So some folks on ODSP will be sub 1100 per month while those 3 communities will be at least 1700 per month?
How the hell is that fair?
Wynnie...Please listen to me once. I can tell you the personal mistakes you made and how to fix them.
Further why won't you respond to me re: John Leek?
Did you know that over half of Ontario students at grade 6 are failing math? Do you remember turning down the requests from your director of curriculum development funding to fix the math curriculum?
Kathl... » more
How the hell is that fair?
Wynnie...Please listen to me once. I can tell you the personal mistakes you made and how to fix them.
Further why won't you respond to me re: John Leek?
Did you know that over half of Ontario students at grade 6 are failing math? Do you remember turning down the requests from your director of curriculum development funding to fix the math curriculum?
Kathl... » more
- 1 day ago
- tymz chang
This seems like away to force everyone to go along with any governmental agenda they want to put forward, put you on the dole and be told it will held back if you don't get your vaccines for example or critical of open borders any other reason they see fit to introduce.
- 1 day ago
- Lincoln Saugstad
@tymz chang the idea is that there are no strings attached so unless you are breaking an actual crime (for which you are in some way also having your life subsidized for you) it is not going to be possible to restrict access based on such minor variations in interest and fee speech
- 1 day ago
- Sandy Glass
@tymz chang
Ye of little faith and informed knowledge anybody who wants to be on the dole is already on the dole even though we have no dole per se in this country. I do must admit I am fond of the use of the term.
What you are witnessing is a government that has conceded there is problem with our system and it is getting worse.
It is easy for comment section participants to defend the nostalgic, the antiquated reality is far beyond this comment section.
I come here to learn, not stomp... » more
Ye of little faith and informed knowledge anybody who wants to be on the dole is already on the dole even though we have no dole per se in this country. I do must admit I am fond of the use of the term.
What you are witnessing is a government that has conceded there is problem with our system and it is getting worse.
It is easy for comment section participants to defend the nostalgic, the antiquated reality is far beyond this comment section.
I come here to learn, not stomp... » more
- 1 day ago
- Sandy Glass
@Cam McNaughton
Perhaps if greed did not infest the real estate market and the industry didn't push it to the limit you would have been spared.
But do not blame the government they have been extremely patient with the absurdities of an industry persistent in pushing a boom or burst agenda.
Perhaps if greed did not infest the real estate market and the industry didn't push it to the limit you would have been spared.
But do not blame the government they have been extremely patient with the absurdities of an industry persistent in pushing a boom or burst agenda.
- 1 day ago
- tymz chang
This seems like a way to force everyone to go along with any governmental agenda they want to put forward, put you on the dole and be told it will held back if you don't get your vaccines for example or critical of open borders or any other bill or reason they see fit to introduce.
- 1 day ago
- Sandy Glass
@Dougal Fingal
Better than a dog eat dog... but seriously there will be no free lunch just a fairer distribution of the countries natural resources. In return all the monies will be spent in the community and not be tucked away in off shore bank accounts.
Better than a dog eat dog... but seriously there will be no free lunch just a fairer distribution of the countries natural resources. In return all the monies will be spent in the community and not be tucked away in off shore bank accounts.
- 1 day ago
- Alan Hodgson
@Joseph Nostromo If they were willing to move to Thunder Bay they'd probably be willing to move somewhere where there was a job.
Be real, the people this is aimed at are chronic welfare recipients, either single moms with no education or drug addicts.
Be real, the people this is aimed at are chronic welfare recipients, either single moms with no education or drug addicts.
- 1 day ago
- Terry Duff
Oregon has already tried it and found people would not work for minimum wage. It wasn't worth the expense of going to work. They encountered a labour shortage they could fill only by recruiting out of State. Like the 15$ minimum wage thingie it sounds good until they do it.Ontario repeating the mistakes of history. It will work because a woman is doing it right?
- 1 day ago
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