April 22, 2017

I don't support the charity Black Girls Code

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Sativa_Rose 1 day ago#1
Here's a little background on the organization:

Black Girls Code (BGC) is a not-for-profit organization that focuses on providing technology education for African-American girls. Kimberly Bryant, an electrical engineer who had worked in biotech for over 20 years, founded Black Girls Code in 2011 in hopes of rectifying the underrepresentation of the female and African-American demographic in the technology industry.

Here's why I am against it. Imagine that you are a young Hispanic girl, say 11 or 12 years old, and you encounter this Black Girls Code organization. Does that have a positive or negative impact on your own likelihood of wanting to code? I'm saying more often than not it's a negative impact. Hispanic and African American communities don't always get along, especially in very impoverished areas (and that's putting it nicely). Seeing something like "Black Girls Code" could very likely cause one to think "Well, I'm not black, and I haven't had the best encounters with the black people I know", and a result, it pushes them away from getting interested in this coding stuff.

So yeah, this organization sucks and I think it is largely supported by whites and asians who don't understand the conflict here.
I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister.
I just don't trust most non profits in general.
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ASithLord7 1 day ago#3
Expected PandaMaster topic

Sativa_Rose posted...
"Well, I'm not black, and I haven't had the best encounters with the black people I know"

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn_indiana_jones.gif

And hey, guess what:
http://www.latinagirlscode.org/
__aCEr__ 1 day ago#4
So let's just not help anybody.
Isn't it a little late in the day for racism?
Sativa_Rose 1 day ago#6
ASithLord7 posted...

And hey, guess what:
http://www.latinagirlscode.org/


Why have two separate organizations? The inverse problem exists with that organization. What if Latina Girls Code comes to a black girl's school? The same impact could happen.

__aCEr__ posted...
So let's just not help anybody.


The organizations should just focus on increasing diversity in tech in general without focusing on specific ethnic groups.

CruelBuffalo posted...
Isn't it a little late in the day for racism?


It's certainly not racist to acknowledge the tensions and conflicts that exist between African American communities and Hispanic communities particularly in ghetto areas.
I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister.
MakoReizei 1 day ago#7
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based
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MakoReizei 1 day ago#8
Sativa_Rose posted...
Imagine that you are a young Hispanic girl, say 11 or 12 years old, and you encounter this Black Girls Code organization. Does that have a positive or negative impact on your own likelihood of wanting to code? I'm saying more often than not it's a negative impact.

agreed
Sativa_Rose 1 day ago#9
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to race based


Exactly, this is effectively my argument. By limiting it to a certain race, members of other ethnicities (particularly other underprivileged minorities) are excluded if they only encounter the organization that happens to represent another ethnicity. This problem is compounded by the racial tensions that exist in "the ghetto" for lack of a better term.
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Lorcus 1 day ago#10
Pizza burgers are delicious
meingott 1 day ago#11
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based


Why not have just "Learn code" instead of this divisive racist/sexist virtue signaling horse s***?
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
Why don't you create an organization that helps those other girls then? What's up with the crab mentality?
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MakoReizei 1 day ago#13
meingott posted...
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based


Why not have just "Learn code" instead of this divisive racist/sexist virtue signaling horse s***?

good point.
Lorcus 1 day ago#14
We should bring everyone together with pizza burgers!
Sativa_Rose 1 day ago#15
MakoReizei posted...
meingott posted...
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based


Why not have just "Learn code" instead of this divisive racist/sexist virtue signaling horse s***?

good point.


I can understand why this would exist in a society where there is a history of women being steered away from those kinds of jobs. Thankfully I think we've improved on this issue, and today's girls are being encouraged to go into more STEM type careers compared to several decades ago.
I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister.
Iodine 1 day ago#16
This is quite the topic.
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CommonStar 1 day ago#17
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based

https://girlswhocode.com/
Iodine posted...
This is quite the stupid topic.
Sativa_Rose posted...
Why have two separate organizations? The inverse problem exists with that organization. What if Latina Girls Code comes to a black girl's school? The same impact could happen.


1. Tax issues
2. Helps make it easy for people to realize that these NPOs exist for them
3. Removes decision making from process of what ethnicity applicants to select
meingott 1 day ago#20
Sativa_Rose posted...
MakoReizei posted...
meingott posted...
MakoReizei posted...
why not just Girls Code? why does it have to be race based


Why not have just "Learn code" instead of this divisive racist/sexist virtue signaling horse s***?

good point.


I can understand why this would exist in a society where there is a history of women being steered away from those kinds of jobs. Thankfully I think we've improved on this issue, and today's girls are being encouraged to go into more STEM type careers compared to several decades ago.


girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.
MakoReizei 1 day ago#22
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.
KILBOTz 1 day ago#23
yes yes, everything has to be inclusive of everything.
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.

there isn't a conspiracy to push them out, it's just the natural result of misogynist attitudes held by their peers.
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.

there isn't a conspiracy to push them out, it's just the natural result of misogynist attitudes held by their peers.

No. It just doesn't interest them. Computer programming is nerdy and girls don't want to do nerdy stuff
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MakoReizei 1 day ago#26
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.

there isn't a conspiracy to push them out, it's just the natural result of misogynist attitudes held by their peers.

even if that was true, which it isn't, why would it stop them? Just do what you want to do and don't act like everyone's oppressing you.
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.

there isn't a conspiracy to push them out, it's just the natural result of misogynist attitudes held by their peers.

even if that was true, which it isn't, why would it stop them? Just do what you want to do and don't act like everyone's oppressing you.

I'm sure a lot of CEmen like to think of themselves as some kind of guttermind trash that has been exposed and desensitized to every horrible or lascivious thing out there, but comments like these really do wonders to illustrate how innocent some people still are.
MakoReizei 1 day ago#28
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.
MakoReizei posted...
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.

I didn't accuse every male engineer of being misogynist so no problem there.
__aCEr__ posted...
So let's just not help anybody.

How about help everyone instead of just small subsets?
MakoReizei 1 day ago#31
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.

I didn't accuse every male engineer of being misogynist so no problem there.

I didn't say you did lol
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
girls already have an advantage in a s*** ton of ways compared with boys. they're already graduating college more, getting better grades, and in their 20s they earn more than men do. it's about time we started giving boys the same type of encouragement and attention, because for the last decade or two boys have been increasingly left behind.


funny that girls have "so much advantage" and yet all fields of engineering are still completely dominated by men.

clearly their advantage doesn't really mean s***.

because most girls just aren't interested in engineering? there isn't some conspiracy to keep them out of it.

there isn't a conspiracy to push them out, it's just the natural result of misogynist attitudes held by their peers.

Yeah when my sister went to apply for a computer science degree she was laughed out of the room , and when she finally fought her way in she was ignored by lecturer and peer alike for the simple fact she is female. The only times she wasnt talked down to is when they were wolf whistling her in the streets
Rika_Furude posted...
__aCEr__ posted...
So let's just not help anybody.

How about help everyone instead of just small subsets?

Because their goal is diversity. Helping everyone just maintains the status quo and changes nothing.
meingott 1 day ago#34
That_Happened posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
__aCEr__ posted...
So let's just not help anybody.

How about help everyone instead of just small subsets?

Because their goal is diversity. Helping everyone just maintains the status quo and changes nothing.


"yeah, f*** you people. you're not diverse enough!1111"
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
That_Happened posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
__aCEr__ posted...
So let's just not help anybody.

How about help everyone instead of just small subsets?

Because their goal is diversity. Helping everyone just maintains the status quo and changes nothing.

The goal should be to improve the industry, not "diversity"
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.

I didn't accuse every male engineer of being misogynist so no problem there.

I didn't say you did lol

Fair point.

The issue is all it takes is one f***ing creeper to drive off all the women.

Look at Fox News and how just O'Reilly and Ailes drove off like a dozen women.

Now imagine instead of socially skilled TV personalities you've got a bunch of introverts who spend all day in front of computers and how much worse it gets.

Like, imagine you're a woman taking a C++ class and this guy is in it:

dk2ezHM

He probably won't f***ing go anywhere, much less into an engineering career, but he will make you want to bail on the class and go take a different major.
KILBOTz posted...
yes yes, everything has to be inclusive of everything.
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meingott 1 day ago#38
hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.

I didn't accuse every male engineer of being misogynist so no problem there.

I didn't say you did lol

Fair point.

The issue is all it takes is one f***ing creeper to drive off all the women.

Look at Fox News and how just O'Reilly and Ailes drove off like a dozen women.

Now imagine instead of socially skilled TV personalities you've got a bunch of introverts who spend all day in front of computers and how much worse it gets.

Like, imagine you're a woman taking a C++ class and this guy is in it:

dk2ezHM

He probably won't f***ing go anywhere, much less into an engineering career, but he will make you want to bail on the class and go take a different major.

So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?
meingott posted...
hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?

what the f*** are you talking about?
Rika_Furude posted...
So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?

The problem is the a****** that pushed her out of the career in the first place.
meingott 1 day ago#42
Rika_Furude posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
MakoReizei posted...
also it seems kind of offensive to just assume your male peers are misogynists. that word is really abused.

I didn't accuse every male engineer of being misogynist so no problem there.

I didn't say you did lol

Fair point.

The issue is all it takes is one f***ing creeper to drive off all the women.

Look at Fox News and how just O'Reilly and Ailes drove off like a dozen women.

Now imagine instead of socially skilled TV personalities you've got a bunch of introverts who spend all day in front of computers and how much worse it gets.

Like, imagine you're a woman taking a C++ class and this guy is in it:

dk2ezHM

He probably won't f***ing go anywhere, much less into an engineering career, but he will make you want to bail on the class and go take a different major.

So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?


the problem is that if 50% of the software developers in the world arent female, that's evidence of the patriarchy
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
If a little hispanic girl is inscure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be a black owned/black focused coding group then she's got issues she needs to address.
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?

The problem is the a****** that pushed her out of the career in the first place.

Nerds existing doesnt push anyone out of any career. She made a choice herself.
meingott 1 day ago#45
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?

what the f*** are you talking about?


you have some bizarre fantasy about how these some kind of orchestrated and pervasive effort to keep women out of a field, and i just wanted to know if your fantasy also explains why theres so few men going into the nursing field
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
meingott posted...
you have some bizarre fantasy about how these some kind of orchestrated and pervasive effort to keep women out of a field


learn to read, thanks. 

ChromaticAngel posted...
there isn't a conspiracy to push them out
meingott 1 day ago#47
StealthRock posted...
If a little hispanic girl is inscure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be a black owned/black focused coding group then she's got issues she needs to address.


How is that different from saying "if a girl is insecure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be more guys in the classroon, then she's got issues she needs to address"
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
meingott 1 day ago#48
ChromaticAngel posted...
meingott posted...
you have some bizarre fantasy about how these some kind of orchestrated and pervasive effort to keep women out of a field


learn to read, thanks. 

ChromaticAngel posted...
there isn't a conspiracy to push them out


then stop s***posting about some mythical fedorabeards pushing ladies out of the field. it doesnt happen. people just naturally gravitate towards certain fields. like how women tend to becone nurses far more often than men. not all women need to get into STEM all of a sudden.
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
Rika_Furude posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?

The problem is the a****** that pushed her out of the career in the first place.

Nerds existing doesnt push anyone out of any career. She made a choice herself.


If all people did was exist, then sure it doesn't push anyone out.

When they harass you around every f***ing corner, that's not just "existing" that's "being an a******"
ChromaticAngel posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So she will choose another career because she doesnt like nerds? Whats the problem again?

The problem is the a****** that pushed her out of the career in the first place.


Pretty much everyone has deal with a******s or unpleasant things in their academic or professional lives. If you let them prevent you doing something that you want to do then you don't really care enough and it's your fault.
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    Rika_Furude posted...
    The goal should be to improve the industry, not "diversity"


    The goal is to improve the industry through diversity.

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their goal. But there's plenty of help out there for white guys who are interested in coding--it's not designated for white guys but it doesn't really have to be. This one NPO doesn't tip the playing field in favor of minority women so you're getting pissy about a total non issue
    Ignore chromatic, hes ignoring valid arguments in favor of s***posting. He cant even explain how nerds existing is "misogynistic and the nerd a******s push women out of the it industry"
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    The goal should be to improve the industry, not "diversity"


    The goal is to improve the industry through diversity.

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their goal. But there's plenty of help out there for white guys who are interested in coding--it's not designated for white guys but it doesn't really have to be. This one NPO doesn't tip the playing field in favor of minority women so you're getting pissy about a total non issue

    Diversity is only a boon if it happens naturally. This is one of the first things they teach you in any management class
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    If a little hispanic girl is inscure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be a black owned/black focused coding group then she's got issues she needs to address.


    How is that different from saying "if a girl is insecure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be more guys in the classroon, then she's got issues she needs to address"

    because that's not even close to the same

    that would imply that the Black Girls Code group is the only group. And that Black women make up a majority of coders

    it would be like a girl getting discouraged that there happens to be an all boys school that doesn't cater to her as a girl

    Solution?? go to another school if it bothers who so much. I'm sure the Black Girls group wouldn't turn her away anyways. You guys mistake Black focused groups to be similar to Jim Crow Laws. It's not
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    meingott 1 day ago#55
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    The goal should be to improve the industry, not "diversity"


    The goal is to improve the industry through diversity.

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree with their goal. But there's plenty of help out there for white guys who are interested in coding--it's not designated for white guys but it doesn't really have to be. This one NPO doesn't tip the playing field in favor of minority women so you're getting pissy about a total non issue


    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott 1 day ago#56
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    If a little hispanic girl is inscure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be a black owned/black focused coding group then she's got issues she needs to address.


    How is that different from saying "if a girl is insecure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be more guys in the classroon, then she's got issues she needs to address"

    because that's not even close to the same

    that would imply that the Black Girls Code group is the only group. And that Black women make up a majority of coders

    it would be like a girl getting discouraged that there happens to be an all boys school that doesn't cater to her as a girl

    Solution?? go to another school if it bothers who so much. I'm sure the Black Girls group wouldn't turn her away anyways. You guys mistake Black focused groups to be similar to Jim Crow Laws. It's not


    so by that logic youd be fine with a White Girls group? a White Boys group?

    no matter which way you cut it, it's stupid. kids should all be given the opportunity to learn it if it interests them.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott posted...
    hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?


    A similar question could be asked of you: do you throw this much of a fit about the AAMN, or American Assembly for Men in Nursing? They're a group that work to increase diversity in the nursing field by offering scholarships exclusively to men.
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    If a little hispanic girl is inscure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be a black owned/black focused coding group then she's got issues she needs to address.


    How is that different from saying "if a girl is insecure enough to get discouraged because there happens to be more guys in the classroon, then she's got issues she needs to address"

    because that's not even close to the same

    that would imply that the Black Girls Code group is the only group. And that Black women make up a majority of coders

    it would be like a girl getting discouraged that there happens to be an all boys school that doesn't cater to her as a girl

    Solution?? go to another school if it bothers who so much. I'm sure the Black Girls group wouldn't turn her away anyways. You guys mistake Black focused groups to be similar to Jim Crow Laws. It's not


    so by that logic youd be fine with a White Girls group? a White Boys group?

    no matter which way you cut it, it's stupid. kids should all be given the opportunity to learn it if it interests them.

    Continue to miss the point


    but to answer your question, I wouldn't give a damn if there was white girls/boys group. How would that affect me in anyway?


    And what's stopping All kids from learning? I just said that I'm sure any color can join. It's just black owned/ black focused. nothing wrong with that.

    Not to mention, there are many other coding groups if the word Black scares them that much
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    meingott 1 day ago#59
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?


    A similar question could be asked of you: do you throw this much of a fit about the AAMN, or American Assembly for Men in Nursing? They're a group that work to increase diversity in the nursing field by offering scholarships exclusively to men.


    yeah. i think thats stupid.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.

    He got it from his ass
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    meingott 1 day ago#62
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?

    So black women should not seek to benefit their own children??
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    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.


    No. I'm pretty sure you're just pulling s*** out of your ass and throwing it everywhere.

    This is literally an educational NPO. By rallying against it, you're effectively saying education / knowledge is bad. No one is being forced to attend. No one is guaranteed a job even after getting assistance from this NPO. No one is guaranteed to suddenly like engineering just because they signed up for this program.

    Race quotas are bad, but this NPO doesn't have anything to do with race quotas. It's all on the employer to enforce / not enforce a race quota. All this organization does is provide educational services to black girls in engineering.

    But according to you, they don't need it since they have "more advantages"
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    hey chromatic are you this much of a keyboard warrior with regards to how many women are in nursing?


    A similar question could be asked of you: do you throw this much of a fit about the AAMN, or American Assembly for Men in Nursing? They're a group that work to increase diversity in the nursing field by offering scholarships exclusively to men.


    yeah. i think thats stupid.

    I didn't ask if you thought it was stupid. I asked if you throw fits over it like you do over "forced diversity" involving minorities and women. The answer is "no, I don't really give a s*** about that."
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?


    He's one of those financially comfortable single guys who thinks the whole world is out to get him. The kind of person who makes six figures but has the audacity to complain when little minority girls in rough neighborhoods get the slightest bit of extra help and attention.
    meingott 1 day ago#67
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?

    So black women should not seek to benefit their own children??


    what a stupid loaded question. where did i say anything remotely like that? nowhere. 

    im referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity. pretty much every top software company is already giving recruiters and hiring managers larger bonuses if they make more "diversity hires" each quarter. google it and see. microsoft, facebook, intel, etc, all do it.

    idiot slacktivists online are "demanding" that google release their company data so that we can "verify" that theyre "diverse enough"

    it's stopping short of legislation but the social climate makes it very obvious that theyre "supposed" to hire people in quantities that create a "diverse" work force.

    which is basically only achievable by treating it as a race and sex quota. canada's trudeau made half his cabinet women just because "muh diversity." that was literally his only reason.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott 1 day ago#68
    That_Happened posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?


    He's one of those financially comfortable single guys who thinks the whole world is out to get him. The kind of person who makes six figures but has the audacity to complain when little minority girls in rough neighborhoods get the slightest bit of extra help and attention.


    damn at this rate youll need to make another alt soon because youre quickly showing yourself to be a bitter dishonest little kid lmao
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    What's the problem? A group that doesn't really have much of a presence in a field that definitely continues to grow, has people who want them to be able to have a better opportunity, and increase interest in that field. There's a lot of money and potential in electronics and such, that's only going to continue to grow. These people realize this and don't want the kids to stay limited. Encouraging one group does not discourage another.
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    meingott posted...
    I'm referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity.

    Which has nothing to do with this NPO. They're using what little resources they have to train young girls who are interested in tech fields in the hopes that they get fulfilling jobs when they're older and that they have more of a support system than the founder had when she went through it. And amazingly you take issue with this idea.
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?

    So black women should not seek to benefit their own children??


    what a stupid loaded question. where did i say anything remotely like that? nowhere. 

    im referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity. pretty much every top software company is already giving recruiters and hiring managers larger bonuses if they make more "diversity hires" each quarter. google it and see. microsoft, facebook, intel, etc, all do it.

    idiot slacktivists online are "demanding" that google release their company data so that we can "verify" that theyre "diverse enough"

    it's stopping short of legislation but the social climate makes it very obvious that theyre "supposed" to hire people in quantities that create a "diverse" work force.

    which is basically only achievable by treating it as a race and sex quota. canada's trudeau made half his cabinet women just because "muh diversity." that was literally his only reason.

    It's not a loaded question

    Because this topic is about a Black Women who created her own organization to help other young black females

    what kind of forced diversity is this? A black woman helping her own??? ridiculous!
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    meingott 1 day ago#72
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    I'm referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity.

    Which has nothing to do with this NPO. They're using what little resources they have to train young girls who are interested in tech fields in the hopes that they get fulfilling jobs when they're older and that they have more of a support system than the founder had when she went through it. And amazingly you take issue with this idea.


    i didnt say it has anything to do with this kids club.
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    I'm referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity.

    Which has nothing to do with this NPO. They're using what little resources they have to train young girls who are interested in tech fields in the hopes that they get fulfilling jobs when they're older and that they have more of a support system than the founder had when she went through it. And amazingly you take issue with this idea.

    Is it really surprising that he would have an issue with this?
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    meingott 1 day ago#74
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?

    So black women should not seek to benefit their own children??


    what a stupid loaded question. where did i say anything remotely like that? nowhere. 

    im referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity. pretty much every top software company is already giving recruiters and hiring managers larger bonuses if they make more "diversity hires" each quarter. google it and see. microsoft, facebook, intel, etc, all do it.

    idiot slacktivists online are "demanding" that google release their company data so that we can "verify" that theyre "diverse enough"

    it's stopping short of legislation but the social climate makes it very obvious that theyre "supposed" to hire people in quantities that create a "diverse" work force.

    which is basically only achievable by treating it as a race and sex quota. canada's trudeau made half his cabinet women just because "muh diversity." that was literally his only reason.

    It's not a loaded question

    Because this topic is about a Black Women who created her own organization to help other young black females

    what kind of forced diversity is this? A black woman helping her own??? ridiculous!


    i was more talking to chromatic's posts and to That_Happened bulls*** post about how "helping everyone just maintains the status quo and doesnt change anything"
    These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
    meingott posted...
    i didnt say it has anything to do with this kids club.


    You just spent several posts complaining that this kids club was divisive, unnecessary, giving an unfair advantage to black girls when girls already have a big advantage, and that it was representative of a larger trend that promotes diversity at the expense of whites. All this over a small NPO that encourages black children to work hard and get good jobs.
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    meingott posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    forced diversity through gender and race quotas is not an improvement.


    Unless I'm reading this wrong, Black Girls Code is an NPO that seeks to increase black children's interest in STEM fields through training and activities. Not sure where you're getting this "race quotas" thing from.


    im referring to the trend, not the organization or any kids club.

    what trend?

    So black women should not seek to benefit their own children??


    what a stupid loaded question. where did i say anything remotely like that? nowhere. 

    im referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity. pretty much every top software company is already giving recruiters and hiring managers larger bonuses if they make more "diversity hires" each quarter. google it and see. microsoft, facebook, intel, etc, all do it.

    idiot slacktivists online are "demanding" that google release their company data so that we can "verify" that theyre "diverse enough"

    it's stopping short of legislation but the social climate makes it very obvious that theyre "supposed" to hire people in quantities that create a "diverse" work force.

    which is basically only achievable by treating it as a race and sex quota. canada's trudeau made half his cabinet women just because "muh diversity." that was literally his only reason.

    It's not a loaded question

    Because this topic is about a Black Women who created her own organization to help other young black females

    what kind of forced diversity is this? A black woman helping her own??? ridiculous!


    i was more talking to chromatic's posts and to That_Happened bulls*** post about how "helping everyone just maintains the status quo and doesnt change anything"

    But in a sense it does when there are disparities 

    Helping everyone just means helping the largest group in that case.
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    StealthRock posted...
    Helping everyone just means helping the largest group in that case.


    Yes. And that's all I was saying.
    Sativa_Rose 1 day ago#78
    The largest group is probably latina girls actually. But I think trying to split it into racial groups is unnecessarily divisive. Why not just "Girls Code", and make sure that there are people of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds involved? So if they are sending people to a school where 90% of the students are black for example, they should be able to send a group of people who is at least somewhat representative of that.
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    YookaLaylee 22 hours ago#79
    KStateKing17 posted...
    What's the problem? A group that doesn't really have much of a presence in a field that definitely continues to grow, has people who want them to be able to have a better opportunity, and increase interest in that field. There's a lot of money and potential in electronics and such, that's only going to continue to grow. These people realize this and don't want the kids to stay limited. Encouraging one group does not discourage another.

    That_Happened posted...
    meingott posted...
    I'm referring to the trend of strongarming companies into "being diverse" by expecting them to hire more people of different skin colors, as if skin colors equal diversity.

    Which has nothing to do with this NPO. They're using what little resources they have to train young girls who are interested in tech fields in the hopes that they get fulfilling jobs when they're older and that they have more of a support system than the founder had when she went through it. And amazingly you take issue with this idea.

    Stop making sense
    Nukleen 22 hours ago#80
    Of course this thread is still here, lol..
    no.
    TheoryzC 21 hours ago#81
    I can't imagine being against something like this
    This is where my sigs suppose to be.
    Rika_Furude 20 hours ago#82
    TheoryzC posted...
    I can't imagine being against something like this

    i can imagine being against racial segregation; everyone with a brain is
    AltonBrownFan 20 hours ago#83
    Rika_Furude posted...
    TheoryzC posted...
    I can't imagine being against something like this

    i can imagine being against racial segregation; everyone with a brain is

    Are the girls of other races being denied access to this program?
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    StealthRock 18 hours ago#84
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    The largest group is probably latina girls actually. But I think trying to split it into racial groups is unnecessarily divisive. Why not just "Girls Code", and make sure that there are people of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds involved? So if they are sending people to a school where 90% of the students are black for example, they should be able to send a group of people who is at least somewhat representative of that.

    Because it's a black woman trying to help other young black women gain an interest in an area which does not have very many of them. There is nothing "Divisive"about it. It's about filling a gap. Correcting a disparity. 

    It's a got damn non profit. Not a government organization. Like I said, if the word 'Black' scares people so much then they don't have to support it.

    Why is that such a bad thing??
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    That_Happened 18 hours ago#85
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."
    Rika_Furude 18 hours ago#86
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.
    Iodine 17 hours ago#87
    StealthRock posted...
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    The largest group is probably latina girls actually. But I think trying to split it into racial groups is unnecessarily divisive. Why not just "Girls Code", and make sure that there are people of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds involved? So if they are sending people to a school where 90% of the students are black for example, they should be able to send a group of people who is at least somewhat representative of that.

    Because it's a black woman trying to help other young black women gain an interest in an area which does not have very many of them. There is nothing "Divisive"about it. It's about filling a gap. Correcting a disparity. 

    It's a got damn non profit. Not a government organization. Like I said, if the word 'Black' scares people so much then they don't have to support it.

    Why is that such a bad thing??

    Despite what people say, black people uplifting themselves isn't something anyone actually wants.
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    YookaLaylee 17 hours ago#88
    Iodine posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    The largest group is probably latina girls actually. But I think trying to split it into racial groups is unnecessarily divisive. Why not just "Girls Code", and make sure that there are people of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds involved? So if they are sending people to a school where 90% of the students are black for example, they should be able to send a group of people who is at least somewhat representative of that.

    Because it's a black woman trying to help other young black women gain an interest in an area which does not have very many of them. There is nothing "Divisive"about it. It's about filling a gap. Correcting a disparity. 

    It's a got damn non profit. Not a government organization. Like I said, if the word 'Black' scares people so much then they don't have to support it.

    Why is that such a bad thing??

    Despite what people say, black people uplifting themselves isn't something anyone actually wants.

    This topic made that clear
    That_Happened 17 hours ago#89
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.


    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75253947
    toptopmax 17 hours ago#90
    This topic was f***ing cancer.
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    Rika_Furude 17 hours ago#91
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.


    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75253947

    are boys allowed to girls only sleepovers? the answer to that question is your personal answer to that poll.
    YookaLaylee 16 hours ago#92
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.


    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75253947

    are boys allowed to girls only sleepovers? the answer to that question is your personal answer to that poll.

    It's not yours though.
    Rika_Furude 16 hours ago#93
    YookaLaylee posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.


    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75253947

    are boys allowed to girls only sleepovers? the answer to that question is your personal answer to that poll.

    It's not yours though.

    i'm not the clown who thinks that girls only sleepovers, no boys allowed, is not discriminatory against boys
    YookaLaylee 16 hours ago#94
    Rika_Furude posted...
    YookaLaylee posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    That_Happened posted...
    Rika_Furude posted...
    i can imagine being against racial segregation;


    This is "racial segregation" in the same way that throwing an all-girls sleepover party for your daughter is "gender discrimination."

    an all girls sleep over is gender discrimination.


    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75253947

    are boys allowed to girls only sleepovers? the answer to that question is your personal answer to that poll.

    It's not yours though.

    i'm not the clown who thinks that girls only sleepovers, no boys allowed, is not discriminatory against boys

    You're the clown who thinks it is lol
    Rika_Furude 16 hours ago#95
    YookaLaylee posted...
    You're the clown who thinks it is lol

    "no boys allowed" - not discriminatory against boys
    "no blacks allowed" - is discriminatory against black people

    is this your opinion? the answer to this is your answer to that poll
    (edited 16 hours ago)reportquote
    AltonBrownFan 16 hours ago#96
    It's just amusing how some of you CEmen will sit up here and argue that black people need to do a better job at addressing issues in their communities, only to turn around and get upset when they do.
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    StealthRock 15 hours ago#97
    Iodine posted...
    StealthRock posted...
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    The largest group is probably latina girls actually. But I think trying to split it into racial groups is unnecessarily divisive. Why not just "Girls Code", and make sure that there are people of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds involved? So if they are sending people to a school where 90% of the students are black for example, they should be able to send a group of people who is at least somewhat representative of that.

    Because it's a black woman trying to help other young black women gain an interest in an area which does not have very many of them. There is nothing "Divisive"about it. It's about filling a gap. Correcting a disparity. 

    It's a got damn non profit. Not a government organization. Like I said, if the word 'Black' scares people so much then they don't have to support it.

    Why is that such a bad thing??

    Despite what people say, black people uplifting themselves isn't something anyone actually wants.


    Oh I know. It's just amusing to see their mental gymnastics trying to justify their BS

    AltonBrownFan posted...
    It's just amusing how some of you CEmen will sit up here and argue that black people need to do a better job at addressing issues in their communities, only to turn around and get upset when they do.


    That's because they don't want Blacks to really elevate ourselves. What they really want is for us to bow down and "know our place" and not say anything
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    Sativa_Rose 35 minutes ago#98
    toptopmax posted...
    This topic was f***ing cancer.


    This wasn't supposed to be a nasty topic, I just felt like sharing my contrarian view on this. I don't get why they have to further separate minority women from each other.
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    StealthRock 17 minutes ago#99
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    toptopmax posted...
    This topic was f***ing cancer.


    This wasn't supposed to be a nasty topic, I just felt like sharing my contrarian view on this. I don't get why they have to further separate minority women from each other.

    My guess would probably be because not all Minorities are the same nor have the same needs
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    Sativa_Rose 5 minutes ago#100
    StealthRock posted...
    Sativa_Rose posted...
    toptopmax posted...
    This topic was f***ing cancer.


    This wasn't supposed to be a nasty topic, I just felt like sharing my contrarian view on this. I don't get why they have to further separate minority women from each other.

    My guess would probably be because not all Minorities are the same nor have the same needs


    What are the different needs of latinas and African Americans so that they need two separate organizations, one for each ethnicity?
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