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Are you against free speech?
Generally curious. That a lot of people who think they are anti-establishment want to do everything in their power to silence these people... |
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Because they're liars. /thread
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DragonBlood87 posted...
Because they're liars. /thread And nutjobs Also you can hate someone and not be against freedom of speech.
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zerooo0 posted...
DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking. |
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hate is a strong label to apply to mockery of people who've made a career out of making idiots of themselves.
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This is probably what it felt like at the collapse of the USSR. "You said communists are bad! *punchpunch* Hitler!"
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I dont hate either one of them. Alex Jones is hilarious, though it is because he is nuts, but still.
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I don't. I regularly follow both.
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Not against free speech, but anyone one who thinks Alex Jones isn't a lunatic has problems
Also, MIlo is just trying to make money and stay in the spot light. He doesn't believe half the stuff he says and like Jones has made money from a lot silly people. The results of this are not harmless as there is now a disproportionate hatred of 1.3 billion people on the planet because of their religious beliefs and half of America think they need to be armed to the teeth. The results are escalating world tensions and loads of americans being killed by themselves |
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fantasticdave posted...
Not against free speech, but anyone one who thinks Alex Jones isn't a lunatic has problems All great reasons to be against Jones and Milo. |
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Milo would be a good professional troll but unlike Anita Sarkesian he doesn't know when to just shut up and let his enemies make fools of themselves. He was doing great till he pulled an Alsion Rapp
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They're both garbage and they're so "anti-establishment" they're BFFs with the current President. Actually Jones is probably the fakest "anti-establishment" guy there is since he claims the government has committed half the major terrorist attacks and false flag shootings on one hand yet still tends to support most Republicans.
Milo is a despicable troll who got known by piggybacking off a dumbass fake scandal and spends most of his time getting people harassed. Neither should be banned from talking but both suck and don't deserve any notoriety.
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Byuusetsu posted...
They're both garbage and they're so "anti-establishment" they're BFFs with the current President. Actually Jones is probably the fakest "anti-establishment" guy there is since he claims the government has committed half the major terrorist attacks and false flag shootings on one hand yet still tends to support most Republicans. I mean, Alex Jones used to be quite anti-Israel a few years back, now it is a totally different tune. He changes his position as it suits him.
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Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie.
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dubman012 posted...
zerooo0 posted...DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread Yes I can. I'm not the government, I can silence anyone I want and it has no bearing on the first amendment.
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Caster posted...
Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie. He supported Ted Cruz early in the primaries, so thats a lie.
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Pre-Trump Alex Jones = 'the government is responsible for everything'
Now 'Trump and his government are the saviours of the world and I will never say anything against them' |
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hoax123 posted...
Caster posted...Alex Jones has never supported a Republican before (except Ron Paul) so that's a lie. Fine by me, Ted's a patriot. It was still wrong that he usually supports Republicans. |
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I don't pay attention to either. Alex I think is a fraud. The only thing about Milo was that Berkeley incident. Trying to silence opposing opinions really worries me.
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Milo- he raped kids
Alex Jones- Republicans are stupid enough to believe what he says
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You can be in favor of free speech but still dislike conspiracy theorist lunatics like Alex Jones. I don't feel very strongly about Milo.
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dubman012 posted...
Are you against free speech? milo's a smug little s*** who gets off at pushing people's buttons. he's gotten what happens when you push said button and you're not immune to the criticsm Alex Jones is a grade A fearmonger who's nothing more than a sheep who wants to have his way
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dubman012 posted...
zerooo0 posted...DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread Sure you can. |
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There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum.
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Porunga posted...
There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum. Then we should ban tabloid magazines as well. I really don't know what Milo talks about. Just heard about the Berkeley incident. Alex Jones is tabloid journalism. |
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crillgamer posted...
Porunga posted...There are limits to free speech. You cannot yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded room, you cannot threaten to kill someone. I believe that those limits also apply to speech that harms others either by inciting violence, hate and fear, or advocating illegal activities. People may disagree with me, but that is how I feel. People like Jones and Milo should not be allowed to say the things they do on a public forum. Yes, we should. |
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No love at all for Milo and glad he crashed and burned. He was a blatantly sexist troll who stirred up the worst in the dregs of humanity. The fact that he was gay and jewish and used it as a cover to basically say he could get away with anything makes him even worse.
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The_Undying_84 posted...
dubman012 posted...zerooo0 posted...DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread And if they refuse to be silent? Kick his ass? |
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dubman012 posted...
zerooo0 posted...DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread Yes, you can when it pertains to private companies. You see, the first amendment doesn't just include freedom of speech or religion. It also includes freedom of association. In other words, private entities have the right to say "I don't want to do business with you." Trump, of course, thinks differently, insists that Macys dropping his clothing line for the racist crap he said about illegals violates and suppresses his freedom of speech. Reminder: the first amendment of the US constitution, which gives no allowances for abridgement, includes freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press, and association.
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Freedom of speech is protection from the government, it doesn't guarantee you a platform or shield you from backlash.
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I love Milo - he is like my best friend growing up, except British and gay. We were both massive trolls at school and in local politics.
Alex is great entertainment, and I love his heart.
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Personally I enjoy hearing opposing opinions. It makes me think what truth they hold if any. I was raised that way I guess.
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I don't think about them enough to hate them.
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Not a fan of evil.
I will try and see it from your point of view, but I doubt we'll be able to fit both our heads up there.
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dubman012 posted...
Are you against free speech? I hate people who talk about them
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dubman012 posted...
zerooo0 posted...DragonBlood87 posted...Because they're liars. /thread False equivalence. You assume that just because we don't like them that we don't want them to be allowed to speak. Which if you like Trump, comes across as projection.
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Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment.
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Alex Jones is a raving lunatic and Milo is a gutter tier troll that found an audience. I can think they're both pretty worthless and not "hate freedom of speech". They have every right to be repugnant, and I have every right to think they are repugnant.
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Caster posted...
Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment. You don't really need a smear campaign to discredit Alex Jones. He does that well enough on his own.
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DeadCellReborn posted...
Milo- he raped kids No. He spoke a bit in a 4-hour podcast a while back about his early gay experiences with older men when he was between 15 and 17 years old. He never diddled kids. Do you only look at headlines then make your own headline in your head?
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Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
Caster posted...Not everyone who doesn't like them doesn't support their free speech, but people should understand how coordinated media smear campaigns threaten free speech, even though it bypasses the First Amendment. Didn't seem to stop them from trying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=alex+jones&tbm=nws Note that this is all probably to deflect from Infowars being delisted from AdSense the other day. |
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Carmelo posted...
No love at all for Milo and glad he crashed and burned. He was a blatantly sexist troll who stirred up the worst in the dregs of humanity. The fact that he was gay and jewish and used it as a cover to basically say he could get away with anything makes him even worse. He used him being gay that he isn't homophobic like some people claimed he was. He said that loving black men most shows he can't really be a racist when he faced backlash for not advocating BLM. He just has opinions some people find a bit controversial or even wrong. Doesn't mean he should be silenced. The fact he gains more and more followers each day shows that his message is real. There is a thirst in society for ending political correctness.
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Yo_D_oY posted...
He used him being gay that he isn't homophobic like some people claimed he was. But he is. Yo_D_oY posted... The fact he gains more and more followers each day shows that his message is real. There is a thirst in society for ending political correctness. Shows there are a lot of dangerous idiots out there like him.
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Sir Will posted...
dangerous Milo, stop promoting your book. |
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Caster posted...
Sir Will posted...dangerous That reminds me, I need to preorder it.
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I don't hate them, nor do I want to take away their freedom of expression, however I do actively ignore them.
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Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.
However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.
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Caster posted...
This is probably what it felt like at the collapse of the USSR. Are you saying that capitalism is about to collapse?
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Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.
I absolutely can believe in freedom of speech without thinking that either of those two should be given a public platform for their speech. They can say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they need to be given positions as journalists or radio hosts to spread their bulls*** even further.Atheism - A non-prophet organization.
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limitsDragonBlood87 posted...dubman012 posted...
Yes, but you can't be for freedom of speech and for shutting them down from speaking.
I absolutely can believe in freedom of speech without thinking that either of those two should be given a public platform for their speech. They can say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that they need to be given positions as journalists or radio hosts to spread their bulls*** even further.
What is 1 thing Milo has said that is BS?action52 posted...Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.
However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.
Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.Notti posted...action52 posted...
Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.
However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.
Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.
S&S already paid Milo with a hug signing bonusMost accurate analysis in this forum here the proof http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/74887736Jaghave posted...Notti posted...
action52 posted...
Again people seem to misunderstand what "free speech" means. Because of free speech, Milo can troll and say obnoxious or even pedophile-friendly things all he wants, and no one will arrest him. So he is not "banned" from saying or doing anything he has done. Similarly Alex Jones posted his insane conspiracy theory nonsense throughout the Obama administration and no one shut him down.
However, that doesn't mean Simon & Schuster have to pay him money to publish his books, or that organizations have to give him legitimate, respected positions. Similarly anyone who wants to put out respectable journalism should avoid Alex Jones like the plague and it is right that almost everyone dismisses what he does as tabloid lunacy.
Most shouldn't. But people like to think they are in on secret truths, red pilled, etc.
S&S already paid Milo with a hug signing bonus
1) I'm aware of the advance.
2) And how is that somehow a reply to me mocking the so called "red pillness" of Jones followers?
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