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Often times I hear people say it was the best Mario kart ever and the new ones are lame compared to it. However it offered almost nothing in content compared to newer ones. So why is it so loved? And why do I think back so fondly on it while playing MK8 despite knowing MK8 is better in every way?
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It was excellent for it's time, but it's aged poorly. Newer Mario Kart titles are just so much better, in nearly every way.
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CarefreeDude posted...
Often times I hear people say it was the best Mario kart ever and the new ones are lame compared to it. However it offered almost nothing in content compared to newer ones. So why is it so loved? And why do I think back so fondly on it while playing MK8 despite knowing MK8 is better in every way? Dude, this is a great question. Looking back, it's maybe my least favorite. But the nostalgia! I think it just had the luck of releasing at a time when built-in four-player was still very rare. It's the memories with friends that buoys it.
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I don't see how anyone can enjoy MK64 today, having played the newer Mario Kart titles. I've tried going back to it a few times in recent years. The nostalgia wears off in a couple minutes and I quickly realize how awful the controls are and how boring the races are overall.
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The music of MK64 has never been topped.
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It was the game that allowed me to git gud at the series. The rubberbanding in that game was outright unfair thanks to reverse rubberbanding. If they got too far ahead they'd accelerate faster than you could drive. It has its faults, but nothing touched it until DS imo on. SC was a SMK port basically, double dash was fun but lacking. If you could gold 64 cups three starring in later games is trivial for me at least. It's more so is the game gonna f*** you over or not. Skill wise you were good though.
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EffectAndCause posted...
The music of MK64 has never been topped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhpvRcoozM0&t=10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uF_IDYmkZs&t=1s
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The same people that put MK64 on a pedestal are mostly likely the same people that never owned a Nintendo system pass the N64.
RayThrust posted... I still favour Diddy Kong Racing over MK64 *hides* No need to hide my friend, you are one of the smart ones.
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The same reason the Nintendo 64 is on such a pedestal. It was the first 3D console most people owned and even the first Nintendo console for many. Therefore it's inherently the best thing in the world and nothing will ever top it because people are nostalgia zombies.
Personally, I've grown to hate nearly every game on the Nintendo 64. Most of them had terrible controls and consisted of about four levels that you had to play about ten times each to complete. Incomplete and uninspired. I'll take the latest consoles any day. ClayFighter 63 1/3, however, will always be one of my favorite fighting games of all time. I'm aware of its flaws, but it's still fun and makes me laugh whenever I play it. That's all I can ask for. |
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CarefreeDude posted...
Often times I hear people say it was the best Mario kart ever and the new ones are lame compared to it. However it offered almost nothing in content compared to newer ones. So why is it so loved? And why do I think back so fondly on it while playing MK8 despite knowing MK8 is better in every way? 4-player local matches is mostly why Mario Kart 64 is remembered so fondly. It's the same reason why people hold Goldeneye in such high regard even though many modern first-person-shooters are much better.
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Idk, I tried playing g it a few years ago d it has aged terribly,it is hard to just play it cuz of how bad the graphics and controls are, let alone win a race.
Double Dash has some pretty aged controls too, but it's a lot better. I can't remember DS. And Wii and 7 are fine.
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I don't know. Even though I owned every Mario Kart, I didn't care about them until Double Dash. It was the first to have unlockable characters, and with unlockables as an incentive, I continued playing DD to completion.
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Still my favorite Mario Kart. Best music overall (MK8 is a close second), liked some stages, still think it was the most fun MK when it comes to driving at 150cc as you had to consider the risk of spinning in the harder tracks and also I liked the track difficulty balance. Main problem was not having music at 3+ players and being only able to progress by finishing 4th or higher which is stupid imo.
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Limbic posted...
It's the memories with friends that buoys it.Something like this, but with family for me. ...and then we got Mario Kart Wii Honestly Mario Kart 64 can't hold up at all for today's standards. Anything past Mario Kart DS, maybe, but Mario Kart 64's only saving grace may be course design
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Regal_Bryant12 posted...
The same people that put MK64 on a pedestal are mostly likely the same people that never owned a Nintendo system pass the N64. I've owned every system, and every Mario Kart game since the 64, including handhelds, and MK64 is still my favourite.
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I have very strong nostalgia from playing MK64 for countless hours during my childhood with friends and family.
That said, if I had to go back and play an old Mario Kart game... I'd definitely go to Double Dash.
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I think it had the best battle mode, although I never unlocked all the battle courses in Double Dash. The default battle arenas in Double Dash were pretty bad and battle mode has been pretty lame since. Overall, I would probably say Double Dash is my favorite Mario Kart followed by MK8DGT-Flip Munk PSN-Flip-Munk 3DS-4382-1981-6727I feel like for some of us, Mario Kart 64 is held really high up because of the memories and fun it gave back in the day. When we could play with 3 other family members or friends on a normal basis, at maybe get with friends or whatever, the game really shined , or the franchise rather. And why newer Mario Karts may not have shown as "better" could be because we grown up and while we want the experience we had rekindled, only some of us can get that to happen.
i guess what im saying is, if you're playing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe alone vs playing with potentially 7 others you know irl? youre not going to have as much fun.NNID ShinFZ, PSN/Steam ShinstrikeX, FC 2766 - 8993 - 3310I woud Say Nostalgia mostly, and It was great improvement over SMK, but like in that case the newest is most of the time the best (thinking about it, almost every time i buy a Nintendo console after the release of the newest Mario Kart)Don't Judge my Grammar to Strong, I am from Germany. ;)
Smash Bros Mains: Luigi, Yoshi and Ness. Still wishing for a Official Mother 3 Release outside of JapanHeropon_Riki posted...Nostalgia. It's not even the best racing game on the N64. That title goes to Diddy Kong Racing.
This is also true, though.
DKR was the best N64 racing game,
F-Zero was the best GCN racing game,
Sanic Cars was the best Wii U era racing game (but play that s*** on Steam instead),
Mario Kart isn't a great franchise outside of
Atx420Sentinel posted...battle mode block fort
Because back in the day Mario Kart used to actually be a decent racing game with the advent of items to spice things up.
Now Mario Kart is just a game where you recklessly throw items at each other and even if you are the best racer you can still get creamed by some baddie in last place with a blue shell and lose.Strong people stand up for themselves. Stronger people stand up for others.
http://i.imgur.com/AoImPRn.jpgN64 Block Fort is horribly overrated.
My sister and I had some fun screwing around, but without four people wanting to play, Battle Mode prior to Mario Kart DS is often a waste of space being nothing to do if you don't have the precisely optimal configuration of friends.
It returned in Mario Kart DS and it's usually a slog to go through thanks to the survival mode, which I think just doesn't work for more than 4 players.
arminillo posted...And the rubberbanding isnt as bad as supercircuit (the worst mario kart)
Super Circuit never had Mario Kart 64 levels of rubberbanding. The AI is among the tamest in the series actually. In Mario Kart 64, you can see rubberbanders spring right back to you if they get by a shell (and those shells do a lot of damage in that game) and the "rubberbanding" can get so terrible that some AI in 150cc/Extra Mode can shoot right ahead and you can kiss their tailpipe goodbye as you won't catch up to them no matter how hard you tried (it doesn't help that the Red Shells are awful, their tracking mechanism so bad they often shoot right into walls or hit the wrong opponent. For their behavior, they sort of zoom a little bit aimlessly, but then they suddenly charge into your opponent).If there is a game Mario is playable in, I main him.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/masterbazingI never enjoyed MK64 even as a kid. There's just something not fun about it to me, and I've never been able to figure out what it was. The game just feels slow, and there's something off about the item balance. Although it's no where near as bad as the item balance in the Wii version. CTR was definitely the best cart racer of that generation.
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3DS FC- 4656 6119 0559Definitely nostalgia.
Mario Kart 8 got me interested again with its near-perfect controls (at least with the Wii U Gamepad).Am I a cat, or am I a Zoroark?
http://www.lycanroc.net/ ~ 2DS: 0774-4419-4333depends to me while the blue shell was added in it the blue shell wasn't some omnipotent 1st place ICBM shot by the people in last, who have no chance of winning, just to piss off the person in 1st(this was tweaked in DD one of the reasons I rate DD the worst in the series). The blue shell would go hit each player in order giving the shooter the potential to catch up while also being able to be avoided if you were skilled. I remember games where I ran 2 laps with a blue shell like 4 pixels behind me to win.
Also the battle mode levels(where I generaly spend 90% of my MK playing) were superb.AstralFrost: What part is unique about the Wii U thats actually positive? The underpowered console? The direct ipad ripoff controller? The slew of platformers?Because it was the biggest jump in quality the series has seen, and probably will ever see. I mean, going from Super Mario Kart, to Mario Kart 64 is astronomical. So many things were refined, polished, and just made better. Subsequent games simply haven't seen that amount of a quality leap. Yes, they're better, but instead of taking a leap forward, like 64 did, it's only a step.RPG terms I use;
Traditional RPG, Advanced RPG, Action RPG, Strategy RPG, and Hybrid RPGI guess because it felts fresh and fun at the time. I remember it being pretty fun way back, but i have much more fond memories of Double Dash since it introduced the partner system, 2 items choices and the special items for specific characters.
Replayed it tons and tons of times.
Something i also had fond memories were Crash Team Racing on PSX.
Such a great titleFC: 5429-6689-0419I too preferred Diddy Kong Racing to MK64, at least in single player mode.
Interviewer111 posted...The same reason the Nintendo 64 is on such a pedestal. It was the first 3D console most people owned and even the first Nintendo console for many. Therefore it's inherently the best thing in the world and nothing will ever top it because people are nostalgia zombies.
Personally, I've grown to hate nearly every game on the Nintendo 64. Most of them had terrible controls and consisted of about four levels that you had to play about ten times each to complete. Incomplete and uninspired. I'll take the latest consoles any day.
What a pathetic post. So because you don't like it, basically, anyone who does must be a 'nostalgia zombie'.
Lots of people, myself included, still play on the N64 despite having current generation consoles. We do so because the N64 has games that are still great even today, not because of nostalgia or anything else you'd prefer to attribute other people's judgement to when you don't agree with them. It's the same reason I still play on my original Xbox and PS2, too. Gameplay over graphics. Granted many games for each console are dated and have been bettered on later machines, but each console still has some standout games that prevent me from ever packing the console away in the closet.I'm a PC and console gamer - I love good games, regardless of their host system.
For all things N64: http://z9.invisionfree.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/Why is a game that brought in many general elements still regarded as one of the best even though it hasn't aged well? Gee, I wonder why...
But real talk, it's the same reason people stick to certain older games even though they haven't aged well-your general hate of something either just to hate or jump on the bandwagon isn't changing anyone's view points:
-It was one of the first home console racing games to have more than 2 people play at a time.
-It improved the rather lackluster Battle Mode from its predecessor and is what the series has been using to this day as its general formula for Battle Mode...until Wii, at least.
-It more or less set up the main 8 staple Racers in the series (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi, DK, Wario, and Bowser).
-It introduced certain mechanics such as Mini-turbos, better drifting, Slipstreams that were used in a number of the games after it.
-Nostalgia.
So yeah, regardless of what the later games have done for you all and how much you hate 64, it's not going to change any minds of those who still love the game. Hell, I know it's aged like utter ****, and I still understand what made it so great back in the day without coming off as trying to be one of the cool kids or a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. DS and 8 are my favorites in the series.~That moment when you remember...CancerFAQs is the best source of gaming comedy.Kerr Avon posted...I too preferred Diddy Kong Racing to MK64, at least in single player mode.
Interviewer111 posted...The same reason the Nintendo 64 is on such a pedestal. It was the first 3D console most people owned and even the first Nintendo console for many. Therefore it's inherently the best thing in the world and nothing will ever top it because people are nostalgia zombies.
Personally, I've grown to hate nearly every game on the Nintendo 64. Most of them had terrible controls and consisted of about four levels that you had to play about ten times each to complete. Incomplete and uninspired. I'll take the latest consoles any day.
What a pathetic post. So because you don't like it, basically, anyone who does must be a 'nostalgia zombie'.
Lots of people, myself included, still play on the N64 despite having current generation consoles. We do so because the N64 has games that are still great even today, not because of nostalgia or anything else you'd prefer to attribute other people's judgement to when you don't agree with them. It's the same reason I still play on my original Xbox and PS2, too. Gameplay over graphics. Granted many games for each console are dated and have been bettered on later machines, but each console still has some standout games that prevent me from ever packing the console away in the closet.
I second this.~That moment when you remember...CancerFAQs is the best source of gaming comedy.I played the heck out of SMK in high school. 64 came out when I was in college and it was just so fun staying up all night playing, 64 is great to me for nostalgia. I didn't really like DD that much but it was better than 64. DS-MK8 were amazing for me at the time. I still like 7 a lot bc it has that 64 throwback music and brings back memories of so many people I played 64 with that aren't a part of my life now. I think it is nostalgia for some people that like 64 so much. The music is what gets me. Takes me right back to wishing I wasn't' a poor college student and could buy my own 64 lol I did like the level design better in 64 than DD. I played 64 a few weeks ago and did not get bored with it until I played through all of the cups once.3DS FC: 2509-2116-9278; PSN: christreignz; XBL: gofixmeaplateMario Kart 64 was the first Mario Kart game I played and I still play it with friends just for old times. It's still a very enjoyable game, but I can agree that it has aged poorly and later titles have been better in a variety of ways. But as to why it's on a pedestal, I'd say that it was an important game in the franchise's history.
Super Mario Kart was already known to be a critically acclaimed game. But the jump from one generation to another isn't always easy for franchises (examples being Bubsy and Sonic the Hedgehog). Considering this was also just the second game in the franchise, it was important that the game could be good enough from a performance and entertainment perspective to give legs to future games. Expanding the range of the battle mode fields, as well as expanding from being able to have two people to four were big changes.
With that said, it's natural that newer games offer more for players than what their predecessors did. It's not by any means the best, but it's still an enjoyable game and does deserve some recognition for how we play Mario Kart games today.3DS FC: 2595-4384-6463
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The other big thing is that every track in Mario Kart 64 was incredible, there were no "bad" tracks. Battle mode was simple, yet addicting given the four arenas that all catered to different strategies and play styles. All in all it was a VERY good game. During the time it came out it was a MUST HAVE.GT, PSN, & Steam: Cubis101 Nintendo: KeybladeForest
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- Why is Mario Kart 64 put on such a pedestal?Cyclone314 posted...
It's not my favorite, but the karts were fast.
Not to us PAL users, sadly. Mario Kart 64 was a bad PAL port, being noticeably slower than the NTSC version. In fact the web sites and magazines that kept track of users' best times had to keep two separate lists, since it took longer to complete the same lap on the PAL version as it did on the NTSC version.I'm a PC and console gamer - I love good games, regardless of their host system.
For all things N64: http://z9.invisionfree.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/If you ask me it's similar to Ocarina of Time or Sonic Adventure: series-defining games with heaps of nostalgia that you can go back to and still enjoy, but they show their age horribly and given the choice you'd probably pick one of the newer more modern games in series.Sega is what EAin't.
3DS: 3909-7785-1874 (Crazytank*) Steam ID: CrazytankXDIdk, I always thought it was not as good as the more recent games, along with some very ugly graphics. And battle mode's FPS was all over the place (making it very hard to play at all). It's still fun, of course, but Mario Kart Double Dash, Wii, DS, 7, and 8 are all better, imo.Looking forward to: FFVIIR, Super Mario Odyssey, FE Echoes, FFXII Zodiac Age, Splatoon 2, etc.
Currently playing: World of FF, Zelda BotW, Persona 5, Horizon.WhyitEarp posted...highflyer_01 posted...
Gogo726 posted...
It still aged better than Super Mario Kart.
Not when you're drunk in a bar on Okinawa...
Super Mario Kart is the best game in the series, also Diddy Kong Racing is better than Mario Kart 64
To clarify, I was just saying that playing Super Mario Kart drunk in a bar is the t***.Apply obligatory "In my opinion" with this post.It had a really good battle mode, it was the first 3D Mario Kart (so it might as well have been the first) and...I dunno, nostalgia I guess. There are people who will tell you Goldeneye is the best FPS of all time because of nostalgia even though Doom, Time Splitters and, XIII exist.I had a dream of my wife...She was dead but, it was OK...GrAyFoX312k posted...It took the biggest leap in between games. Going from snes to real 3d was mind blowing.
Yeah Just Like OoT did with the Zelda series. We had to wait until BoTW and a complete restructuration of the series so that people state that a game is better than OoT. I guess they have to do the same with Mario Kart, a new game with some great innovation compared to the rest of the series.Dum Spiro Sperodarkmafia666 posted...double dash has been and likely always will be my favorite
I had so many drunken nights with that game back in 07. It'll always be my favorite.
I don't the praise for MK64 either. It's just nostalgia. People played it like crazy when they were kids. It's just like Smash Bros Melee.Llamachama posted...Because back in the day Mario Kart used to actually be a decent racing game with the advent of items to spice things up.
Now Mario Kart is just a game where you recklessly throw items at each other and even if you are the best racer you can still get creamed by some baddie in last place with a blue shell and lose.
MK64 has objectively worse item spam and rubber banding though.FC 1504 5709 4054raihidara posted...It was good, but Double Dash was always my favorite. MK8 Deluxe might be my new favorite though, especially since I missed out on MK7 and 8.
Double Dash is only 2nd to MK8. MK8 feels like the series' end goal. When MK9 does eventually hit it will be like 8 except different courses and kart options.
7 is solid and my most played online 3DS game, but 8 makes it completely obsolete especially now that It's portable.Wind Waker >>> Ocarina of Time. People who agree: 538Nostalgia porn.
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This. Nostalgia makes a game better, that is a fact
This just depends on the person, really. For example, I consider Mario Kart 64 nostalgic and not in a bad way, but I don't want to play the game today.I'm Baby Luigi's biggest fan, a rather cantankerous female.
Left 4 Dead 2 is the best Mario-based shooter.Peachalina posted...eddie_grimes420 posted...
GrAyFoX312k posted...
It took the biggest leap in between games. Going from snes to real 3d was mind blowing.
This. Nostalgia makes a game better, that is a fact
Wrong, just allows you to validate your s***ty opinions more.
Nope, nostalgia is the only counter younger kids have when they run out of arguments in topics like: why do games suck todayIf you cough in a mans mouth,do they get sick instantly or no? o.0It's the best multiplayer.
It's simply the most fun.
No, I don't want the answer to be so abstract either. I wanted to say Diddy Kong Racing is better, with its full 3D and its multiple vehicles and its adventure mode and way more tracks. Same thing with newer mario karts.
But sit down with a buddy, MK64 is gonna stay fun longer, and in a simple way that doesn't demand you get really good at it. Just have fun, do a grand prix -- takes 20 minutes or less -- and then turn it off. No hassle, no kart selection, no obscure mechanics.If you want to keep a friend never test him.- Boards
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