April 26, 2017

Does White Privilege Exist?

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In your opinion - Results (83 votes)
Yes.
56.63%
47
No
42.17%
35
I don't know.
1.2%
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White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges that benefit people identified as white in Western countries, beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same social, political, or economic circumstances.

White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress be- comes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation.


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Do you think it is a real thing? Or do you deny it?
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Forlorn_Ass 2 hours ago#2
No.
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John_Galt 2 hours ago#3
Forlorn_Ass posted...
No.
Who is John Galt?
MJ_Max 2 hours ago#4
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?
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Melonfarms 2 hours ago#5
Not in the way ideologues want it to. Everyone has some kind of privilege in one way or another.
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known2FAIL 2 hours ago#6
Of course it does. If you say no then you are naive and sheltered
M_Live 2 hours ago#7
muchdran 2 hours ago#8
John_Galt posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
No.
UnfairRepresent 2 hours ago#9
M_Live posted...
Lol @ people voting no

It's currently winning
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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How can any Sane person vote no.... f***ing trolls
known2FAIL 2 hours ago#11
UnfairRepresent posted...
M_Live posted...
Lol @ people voting no

It's currently winning


Doesn't change the fact it's LOL worthy
meingott 2 hours ago#12
muchdran posted...
John_Galt posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
No.
These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4
pinky0926 2 hours ago#13
Anyone who's saying "no" I feel is not understanding what white privilege means. It doesn't mean all white people have it easy and all black people have it hard. It doesn't mean that you're not capable of having a tough life because of your whiteness, or that any of your hardships should be dismissed because you are white.

Best simple explanation I read on reddit once: 

White privilege isn't some thing where every white person is born with a silver spoon in their mouth (although because of family history, land ownership there are greater chances of wealth being passed down for some non immigrant families)

I think it's more just, for the most part, not being negatively judged by your skin color when searching for employment, dealing with police. If a fictional character is white, it's just a character, if the character is black/asian/etc, you're making a statement.

It's not that it's easy to be white, it's hard to be human in general, it's just you don't have certain flavors of extra bulls***.

Whether it's looking like you're up to no good because you're black and wearing a hooded sweater, not having to prove your ethnicity if you don't like certain things (you're the whitest black dude I know, you don't even like hip hop), not really thinking racism is still a big deal because it doesn't often enter your personal space etc.

Edit: Additionally, growing up in America means that you also had to grow up mostly watching white men/women/culture in TV/Movies. So much so that I literally had to explain to several white kids that anime characters are usually asian. I guess I had the break dancing black power ranger with a gun, Barret and the burn victim demon Spawn, but there were slim pickings being a black nerd and trying to see yourself/find a costume.
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UnfairRepresent 2 hours ago#14
MJ_Max posted...
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?

WTF?

Why would you hate yourself or be angry if you were born black?

What kind of racist are you?
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Yeah, as does privilege for p much every single aspect of a person
meingott 2 hours ago#17
pinky0926 posted...
Anyone who's saying "no" I feel is not understanding what white privilege means. It doesn't mean all white people have it easy and all black people have it hard. It doesn't mean that you're not capable of having a tough life because of your whiteness, or that any of your hardships should be dismissed because you are white.

Best simple explanation I read on reddit once: 

White privilege isn't some thing where every white person is born with a silver spoon in their mouth (although because of family history, land ownership there are greater chances of wealth being passed down for some non immigrant families)

I think it's more just, for the most part, not being negatively judged by your skin color when searching for employment, dealing with police. If a fictional character is white, it's just a character, if the character is black/asian/etc, you're making a statement.

It's not that it's easy to be white, it's hard to be human in general, it's just you don't have certain flavors of extra bulls***.

Whether it's looking like you're up to no good because you're black and wearing a hooded sweater, not having to prove your ethnicity if you don't like certain things (you're the whitest black dude I know, you don't even like hip hop), not really thinking racism is still a big deal because it doesn't often enter your personal space etc.

Edit: Additionally, growing up in America means that you also had to grow up mostly watching white men/women/culture in TV/Movies. So much so that I literally had to explain to several white kids that anime characters are usually asian. I guess I had the break dancing black power ranger with a gun, Barret and the burn victim demon Spawn, but there were slim pickings being a black nerd and trying to see yourself/find a costume.


That sounds more like "majority privilege" to me. Because the same is true of the majority populations in Zimbabwe, Japan, China, Saudi Arabia, etc.
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known2FAIL 2 hours ago#18
UnfairRepresent posted...
MJ_Max posted...
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?

WTF?

Why would you hate yourself or be angry if you were born black?

What kind of racist are you?


If you are going to troll try not to make it so obvious.
As a white person, no, not even in the slightest bit does it exist.

MJ_Max posted...
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?

Lol, don't think you want my honest answer.
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Pogo_Marimo 2 hours ago#20
Yes. Whites are indisputably better off on average. But that's all it is--On average. Acknowledging that is just basic logic. If you accept that there is even a modicum of discrimination in society (Proving which, scientifically, is not very difficult--Look at work application studies where they test application call backs by name alone), be it both black on white and white on black, it then stands to reason that that race with the most social capitol (Whites, obviously, comprise the vast majority of wealthy and influential citizens in the West) would thus disadvantage blacks (And of course other minorities) to some degree, even if it is minor or nearly negligible.
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KILBOTz 2 hours ago#21
it exists but is overblown in tons of cases, it can depend on specific circumstances and where you are. criminal sentencing and the likes blacks tend to get ~20% longer terms, all else equal.
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thelovefist 2 hours ago#23
Anyone voting yes is, objectively, a racist.
N/A
pinky0926 2 hours ago#24
meingott posted...


That sounds more like "majority privilege" to me. Because the same is true of the majority populations in Zimbabwe, Japan, China, Saudi Arabia, etc.


Obviously. It's given the name white privilege because that has a specific significance in America and any of the west that is a white majority, historically white patriarchal society. 

Again, white privilege isn't saying that in every country in every circumstance, white people have it better. It's a western-centric term that has context.
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Yes. Whites are indisputably better off on average. But that's all it is--On average.

Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.
These thread are nice racist bait. My ignore list will be well fed.
philsov 2 hours ago#27
,meingott posted...
That sounds more like "majority privilege" to me. Because the same is true of the majority populations in Zimbabwe, Japan, China, Saudi Arabia, etc.



societal privileges that benefit people identified as white in Western countries
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UnfairRepresent 2 hours ago#28
known2FAIL posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
MJ_Max posted...
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?

WTF?

Why would you hate yourself or be angry if you were born black?

What kind of racist are you?


If you are going to troll try not to make it so obvious.

I'm not trolling.

I have no issues with being black or Asian or white or Jewish. I don't even think race is that clearly defined.

I find the question of "How could you be chill with being black!?" and it's implication of wanting to be white absurd. And your dismissals further that point.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Pogo_Marimo 2 hours ago#29
meingott posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Anyone who's saying "no" I feel is not understanding what white privilege means. It doesn't mean all white people have it easy and all black people have it hard. It doesn't mean that you're not capable of having a tough life because of your whiteness, or that any of your hardships should be dismissed because you are white.

Best simple explanation I read on reddit once: 

White privilege isn't some thing where every white person is born with a silver spoon in their mouth (although because of family history, land ownership there are greater chances of wealth being passed down for some non immigrant families)

I think it's more just, for the most part, not being negatively judged by your skin color when searching for employment, dealing with police. If a fictional character is white, it's just a character, if the character is black/asian/etc, you're making a statement.

It's not that it's easy to be white, it's hard to be human in general, it's just you don't have certain flavors of extra bulls***.

Whether it's looking like you're up to no good because you're black and wearing a hooded sweater, not having to prove your ethnicity if you don't like certain things (you're the whitest black dude I know, you don't even like hip hop), not really thinking racism is still a big deal because it doesn't often enter your personal space etc.

Edit: Additionally, growing up in America means that you also had to grow up mostly watching white men/women/culture in TV/Movies. So much so that I literally had to explain to several white kids that anime characters are usually asian. I guess I had the break dancing black power ranger with a gun, Barret and the burn victim demon Spawn, but there were slim pickings being a black nerd and trying to see yourself/find a costume.


That sounds more like "majority privilege" to me. Because the same is true of the majority populations in Zimbabwe, Japan, China, Saudi Arabia, etc.

In those cultures there is definitely a priviledge to being Muslim or Japanese ect. If we were living in and discussing those cultures, we would then probably call it "Muslim Priviledge" or "Japanese Priviledge". No one who has immigrated to Japan would not try to convince you there is no priviledge for being Japanese in Japan (Although Japan is an odd situation--In some ways it is legitimately better to be an immigrant).
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known2FAIL 2 hours ago#30
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Yes. Whites are indisputably better off on average. But that's all it is--On average.

Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.


That's interesting. When people what to bring up negative stats about black people they use percentages to make it more dramatic since there are less of us. When you want to defend stuff like this with white people you use population size instead of percentages. That's cute.
UnfairRepresent 2 hours ago#31

In those cultures there is definitely a priviledge to being Muslim or Japanese ect. If we were living in and discussing those cultures, we would then probably call it "Muslim Priviledge" or "Japanese Priviledge". No one who has immigrated to Japan would not try to convince you there is no priviledge for being Japanese in Japan (Although Japan is an odd situation--In some ways it is legitimately better to be an immigrant).


I don't think it's comparable because you can choose to be a Muslim, you can convert.

You can't convert to being born Chinese
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MJ_Max 2 hours ago#32
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not trolling.

I have no issues with being black or Asian or white or Jewish. I don't even think race is that clearly defined.

I find the question of "How could you be chill with being black!?" and it's implication of wanting to be white absurd. And your dismissals further that point.

Not because of how you feel about your own skin color, but because of the s*** you'd have to deal with as far as *other* people treating you goes. But you already knew that and you're just playing dumb.
known2FAIL 2 hours ago#33
UnfairRepresent posted...
known2FAIL posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
MJ_Max posted...
Anyone who says no, so you'd be chill with having been born black? You'd be chill with living as a black man in America? Totally indifferent?

WTF?

Why would you hate yourself or be angry if you were born black?

What kind of racist are you?


If you are going to troll try not to make it so obvious.

I'm not trolling.

I have no issues with being black or Asian or white or Jewish. I don't even think race is that clearly defined.

I find the question of "How could you be chill with being black!?" and it's implication of wanting to be white absurd. And your dismissals further that point.


Lol. You can't sit there and say you don't have a problem being any race when it is impossible for you to experience it. Plus, he never said he hatef being black. Pointing out that society has problems with you for being a certain race doesn't mean that you hate your race.
known2FAIL posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Yes. Whites are indisputably better off on average. But that's all it is--On average.

Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.


That's interesting. When people what to bring up negative stats about black people they use percentages to make it more dramatic since there are less of us. When you want to defend stuff like this with white people you use population size instead of percentages. That's cute.


Welcome to the internet. You say whatever helps your cause. Cops hate black people even though more white people are killed by cops, but there's more white people so that means cops definitely hate black people more.
Pogo_Marimo 2 hours ago#35
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Yes. Whites are indisputably better off on average. But that's all it is--On average.

Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.

I think you have a substantial and critical misunderstanding of ratios and averages such that nothing I could type in a post could explain why your statement is wrong. 

Maybe this anecdote can get the gears turning for you, though. In Apartheid South Africa, whites composed a distinct minority of the population but held a vast majority of wealthy and influential positions in the country. How can you reconcile that with your statement?
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philsov 2 hours ago#36
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.


The more people there are of a given race, the better off a given race is? What?
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UnfairRepresent 2 hours ago#37
known2FAIL posted...


Lol. You can't sit there and say you don't have a problem being any race when it is impossible for you to experience it.

Yes I can.

known2FAIL posted...
Plus, he never said he hatef being black.

It was heavily implied and you know it.
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known2FAIL 1 hour ago#38
UnfairRepresent posted...
known2FAIL posted...


Lol. You can't sit there and say you don't have a problem being any race when it is impossible for you to experience it.

Yes I can.

known2FAIL posted...
Plus, he never said he hatef being black.

It was heavily implied and you know it.


First off. No you can't. The fact that you think you can proves how sheltered and naive you are. Second, it was not heavily implied. Many black people would prefer to be black even though we know the disadvantage we have. You know nothing so shut the hell up with that stupidity.
FroMan 1 hour ago#39
One of the biggest white privileges is being blind to the fact that you have white privilege. You don't see the injustices being committed against other races because you aren't them, so as long as you yourself aren't an active racists, you get to live inside a tiny bubble where you get to believe no atrocities are being committed simply because you have not personally seen any happen first hand.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Aren't there more white people than black people? So of course it's gonna look like white people are better off, on average.


Buddy do you even math
pinky0926 1 hour ago#41
@UnfairRepresent - I like the Louis C.K. skit on this:

"It's not that white people are better. It's just that being white is clearly better, who could even argue?"

Yes, it does. White people rule the world and are obviously going to look out for themselves. Any ruling race would do the same.
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UnfairRepresent 1 hour ago#43
FroMan posted...
One of the biggest white privileges is being blind to the fact that you have white privilege.

How convenient.
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spincr 1 hour ago#44
19 People of color here.
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
In Apartheid South Africa, whites composed a distinct minority of the population but held a vast majority of wealthy and influential positions in the country. How can you reconcile that with your statement?

I don't care about south africa. That's how.
always thought this was common knowledge, but i think i just under estimated the amount of stupid out there...
FroMan 1 hour ago#47
UnfairRepresent posted...
FroMan posted...
One of the biggest white privileges is being blind to the fact that you have white privilege.

How convenient.


Not really. It makes it a really hard problem to solve when no wants to admit it exists.
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UnfairRepresent 1 hour ago#48
known2FAIL posted...

First off. No you can't.


Just did.

Your mind is more important than the color of your skin or shape of your face buddy.

You will learn that one day I hope when you mature a little.

Second, it was not heavily implied.


Yes it was.

Many black people would prefer to be black even though we know the disadvantage we have.


What a racist attitude.
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It used to exist back when black people and other minorities used to experience racism. But not anymore.
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UnfairRepresent 1 hour ago#50
FroMan posted...


Not really. It makes it a really hard problem to solve when no wants to admit it exists.

This sounds an awful lot like "Atheists really are Christian/Muslim/Jews, they just lie to themselves."

Smells like religious "I want this to be true" unrepresented statement of feelings as opposed to an actual argument.
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    known2FAIL 1 hour ago#51
    UnfairRepresent posted...
    known2FAIL posted...

    First off. No you can't.


    Just did.

    Your mind is more important than the color of your skin or shape of your face buddy.

    You will learn that one day I hope when you mature a little.

    Second, it was not heavily implied.


    Yes it was.

    Many black people would prefer to be black even though we know the disadvantage we have.


    What a racist attitude.


    You clearly are a sheltered person who knows nothing about the real world. Just because the mind is more important, which it is, doesn't mean you understand what it's like being another race. If the mind was that important then we wouldn't have to protect other races right to get a job the quality more for than a white person because of race.

    You can say yes it was all you want on the second point. That just shows that you don't understand and you act like you do.

    And you say it's racist for having pride in your race? Especially the race that has had an awful history in America? That's stupid as f***.
    Pogo_Marimo 1 hour ago#52
    gatorsPENSbucs posted...
    Pogo_Marimo posted...
    In Apartheid South Africa, whites composed a distinct minority of the population but held a vast majority of wealthy and influential positions in the country. How can you reconcile that with your statement?

    I don't care about south africa. That's how.

    Ignorance is the root of evil. If you have no interest in understanding things from various perspectives, then you only contribute to the world's problems.
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    known2FAIL 1 hour ago#53
    DifferentialEquation posted...
    It used to exist back when black people and other minorities used to experience racism. But not anymore.


    You are getting block for such stupidity
    FroMan 1 hour ago#54
    UnfairRepresent posted...
    FroMan posted...


    Not really. It makes it a really hard problem to solve when no wants to admit it exists.

    This sounds an awful lot like "Atheists really are Christian/Muslim/Jews, they just lie to themselves."

    Smells like religious "I want this to be true" unrepresented statement of feelings as opposed to an actual argument.


    And the other side's argument sounds an awful like the "global warming doesn't exists because its snowing outside" argument.
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    Hinakuluiau 1 hour ago#55
    I'd say so
    The thing is is that there are all kinds of privileges. People have mentioned in this topic about other countries, so I'll stick to the US

    There is white privilege, straight privilege, male privilege, etc. that a good chunk of people on CE would fall under. Like, it's very obvious why being those things are better on average than anything else.
    However, at the same time, there is black privilege, asian privilege, gay privilege, trans privilege, female privilege, etc. That's not to say that they're equally as well off as the first group, but there are going to be situations in life where a minority (in race, gender, sexuality, etc.) will be better off than the "norm."

    The larger issue is class privilege. That's where the imbalance really is, where rich people are so much better off than poor people that it's undeniable unless you live in a little bubble and do the whole "muh bootstraps" stuff. 

    People get so upset over the concept of white privilege that I think they feel it's an attack on them, where the point is more that in a typical situation for most people, things will go better if they were white. Like pinky said, it's not like that means your life is automatically better for being white or anything like that, just that on average in most situations it's better to be white.
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    gamepimp12 1 hour ago#56
    UR must of not gotten into an argument recently cause he's certainly fishing for one here.
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    Pogo_Marimo 1 hour ago#57
    UnfairRepresent posted...
    known2FAIL posted...

    First off. No you can't.


    Just did.

    Your mind is more important than the color of your skin or shape of your face buddy.

    You will learn that one day I hope when you mature a little.

    Second, it was not heavily implied.


    Yes it was.

    Many black people would prefer to be black even though we know the disadvantage we have.


    What a racist attitude.

    I really hope someday you come to realize what a remarkable waste of time your whole GameFaqs persona is. And I hope when you do, it's not too late for you. Studies show that people who partake in trolling online are very bitter and unpleasant people and they use these online persona for cheap, sadistic pleasures.
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    meingott posted...
    That sounds more like "majority privilege" to me.


    They're not mutually exclusive and if you knew anything about American history you would know that there is basically no worthwhile distinction to be made.
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    ProtoManSPx 1 hour ago#59
    UnfairRepresent posted...

    I'm not trolling.

    I have no issues with being black or Asian or white or Jewish.

    Lol. So easy to say.

    Straight up bulls***, though.
    AmonAmarth 1 hour ago#60
    Melonfarms posted...
    Not in the way ideologues want it to. Everyone has some kind of privilege in one way or another.


    this.
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    Yes, but there are also many other factors to take account of.
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    pinky0926 posted...
    Anyone who's saying "no" I feel is not understanding what white privilege means. It doesn't mean all white people have it easy and all black people have it hard. It doesn't mean that you're not capable of having a tough life because of your whiteness, or that any of your hardships should be dismissed because you are white.

    Best simple explanation I read on reddit once: 

    White privilege isn't some thing where every white person is born with a silver spoon in their mouth (although because of family history, land ownership there are greater chances of wealth being passed down for some non immigrant families)

    I think it's more just, for the most part, not being negatively judged by your skin color when searching for employment, dealing with police. If a fictional character is white, it's just a character, if the character is black/asian/etc, you're making a statement.

    It's not that it's easy to be white, it's hard to be human in general, it's just you don't have certain flavors of extra bulls***.

    Whether it's looking like you're up to no good because you're black and wearing a hooded sweater, not having to prove your ethnicity if you don't like certain things (you're the whitest black dude I know, you don't even like hip hop), not really thinking racism is still a big deal because it doesn't often enter your personal space etc.

    Edit: Additionally, growing up in America means that you also had to grow up mostly watching white men/women/culture in TV/Movies. So much so that I literally had to explain to several white kids that anime characters are usually asian. I guess I had the break dancing black power ranger with a gun, Barret and the burn victim demon Spawn, but there were slim pickings being a black nerd and trying to see yourself/find a costume.
    I dont want a sig!
    It's wrong to accuse people here of racism just becaus they don't agree that white priviledge is a thing. The fact is a high percentage of users are socially isolated, socially anxious or admit they're mentally ill, and you're going to run into a high number of people who because of that either live hard lives and get mad when you suggest they're priviledged, or they just aren't mentally able to pt themselves in anyone elses shoes. Most of them probably don't vote "no" in a rude way. They just don't/can't get it.

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    Nomadic View  tear this gooby up1 hour ago#64
    "White Privilege" is bulls***. When I ask people what is white privilege I get three general responses:

    1) Income inequality
    2) Systemic racism through the Criminal Justice system
    3) Generic capitalist policies that benefit white people such as band-aids being the skin tone as white people or hotel shampoo is more suited to white people hair.

    Lets tackle the first point; income inequality. There are three basic principles for people to follow to not be permanently poor. 

    1) Graduate high school
    2) Don't get pregnant before marraige
    3) Get a job

    The first point is the graduation issue. There are no white people forcing black people to not graduate high school. School, for all intensive purposes, is free. Not only is school free; individuals that live within its jurisdiction is mandated to attend the provided free educational facility or enroll in private or home school. The drop out rate of black youth is about seven percent and for white people it is about five percent.

    https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=16

    Don't get pregnant before marriage. This is an issue that is prevalent in the black community. The rate of black unwed mothers is at about 72%

    http://www.blacknews.com/news/black_unwed_mothers101.shtml#.VxvZI3qbFoM

    In comparison the rate of single white mothers is about 32%.

    http://www.actrochester.org/children-youth/family-support/single-parent-families/single-parent-families-by-race-ethnicity

    White people are not causing this. There aren't white people that are making black people have sex with other black people, then forcing one of them to abandon the other. In no place in America is this happening.

    The third issue is to get a job. Black unemployment is at 9.2% with the contrast of white unemployment being at 4.2%

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/black-unemployment-rate-92-more-double-white-unemployment-44

    The percentage of black families that have both parents that live below the poverty line is 12%. 

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/25/fathers-disappear-from-households-across-america/?page=all

    Whereas white single mothers are at 33%

    http://www.familyfacts.org/charts/329/poverty-rates-are-higher-among-single-mother-families-regardless-of-race

    Where is all this white privilege for these white single mothers? 

    Systemic racism through the Criminal Justice system:

    The first thing that gets attention is the differential treatment of crack verses powder cocaine. There is the widespread belief that the behind the scenes white supremacist super villain emperor of the United States is creating legislation to hurt black people. While that is a very compelling argument that many would fear to challenge because of its ironclad reasoning, I'm willing to question this idea. 

    The reason for heavy sentencing in crack cocaine is because crack is easier to distribute, easier to manufacture, and easier to get high off of. This is a drug that to this day devastates black communities. And it was actually black legislators in inner cities that pushed for the harsher sentencing in an effort to get the drugs out of their communities. This has nothing to do with white privilege. White people didn't even have anything to do with this.

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/312823-black-leaders-once-championed-strict-drug-laws-they-now-seek-dismantle/

    Meth has the same sentencing as crack, and yet meth is predominantly a drug used by white people. Where is all the white privilege for the Kentucky trailer park hillbillies? 

    http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking06/Meth-Crack.html
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    Pogo_Marimo posted...
    gatorsPENSbucs posted...
    Pogo_Marimo posted...
    In Apartheid South Africa, whites composed a distinct minority of the population but held a vast majority of wealthy and influential positions in the country. How can you reconcile that with your statement?

    I don't care about south africa. That's how.

    Ignorance is the root of evil. If you have no interest in understanding things from various perspectives, then you only contribute to the world's problems.

    I was talking about America and you bring south Africa into it. Stay on topic.
    to suggest a race has it hard, or easy, based on skin colour alone is a pot of generalizations....and when you boil it on the stove, that makes it "racist" within itself.
    You feast on red herring because it is your birthright.
    Pogo_Marimo 59 minutes ago#67
    gatorsPENSbucs posted...
    Pogo_Marimo posted...
    gatorsPENSbucs posted...
    Pogo_Marimo posted...
    In Apartheid South Africa, whites composed a distinct minority of the population but held a vast majority of wealthy and influential positions in the country. How can you reconcile that with your statement?

    I don't care about south africa. That's how.

    Ignorance is the root of evil. If you have no interest in understanding things from various perspectives, then you only contribute to the world's problems.

    I was talking about America and you bring south Africa into it. Stay on topic.

    I am on topic. Just because you do not want to talk about it does not mean it is off-topic--Apartheid systems are a valuable resource to study systemic inequalities in more extreme, apparent terms. This topic is about a form of passive inequality in America, but nothing happens in a vacuum. I know you're trolling and being a contrarian for the sake of entertainment, but it is an important consideration regardless.
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    DarkProto05 57 minutes ago#68
    Of course it exists. 
    Should white people get attacked for it, blamed for everything, and should they feel guilty about their privlege? No, of course not. They can't help that they were born white and have it easier in the U.S.A.
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    Pogo_Marimo 56 minutes ago#69
    Roxborough4Ever posted...
    to suggest a race has it hard, or easy, based on skin colour alone is a pot of generalizations....and when you boil it on the stove, that makes it "racist" within itself.

    That analogy is... really not the least bit robust. It is racist to say that Native Americans were extremely disadvantaged in the latter half of the 19th century? These kind of empty platitudes of pseudo-wisdom have no place when discussing extremely complex and integrated human systems.
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    Liberals 48 minutes ago#70
    DarkProto05 posted...
    They can't help that they were born white and have it easier in the U.S.A.


    We can do a lot more to recognize it, though, and subsequently work to weaken the divide. There's a whole group of people who reject the entire concept of it without understanding it, have no desire to understand it, and then turn around and have a lot of bizarre, delusional, and sometimes dangerous perceptions of themselves and others.
    #thingsliberalssay
    Piersons_Fox 44 minutes ago#71
    Black Privilege

    1) Black privilege is being able to take pride in your race without fear or persecution.

    2) Black privilege is when people assume you are poor because of racism and not because bad personal choices.

    3) Black privilege is being wealthy without people assuming your wealth was handed to you or that you exploited others.

    4) Black privilege is being able to commit violent crimes against another race without people assuming you're racist.

    5) Black privilege is being given Affirmative Action which advances you in jobs or colleges based on your skin color.

    6) Black privilege is when you can be overrepresented in certain fields without people trying to amend it.

    7) Black privilege is having the media cover up your race in the event of a gruesome murder.

    8) Black privilege is having the media ignore Black on black crime while blaming white people for not valuing black lives.

    9) Black privilege is having media ignore problems in your community to protect you from criticism.

    10) Black privilege is being able to blame being pulled over because the officer's racism.

    11) Black privilege is being able to blame any of your shortcomings or failures on racism.
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    GreatEvilEmpire 43 minutes ago#72
    If you voted yes, you probably have a victim's mentality.
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    Coolppl Owns 37 minutes ago#73
    Piersons_Fox posted...
    Black Privilege

    1) Black privilege is being able to take pride in your race without fear or persecution.

    2) Black privilege is when people assume you are poor because of racism and not because bad personal choices.

    3) Black privilege is being wealthy without people assuming your wealth was handed to you or that you exploited others.

    4) Black privilege is being able to commit violent crimes against another race without people assuming you're racist.

    5) Black privilege is being given Affirmative Action which advances you in jobs or colleges based on your skin color.

    6) Black privilege is when you can be overrepresented in certain fields without people trying to amend it.

    7) Black privilege is having the media cover up your race in the event of a gruesome murder.

    8) Black privilege is having the media ignore Black on black crime while blaming white people for not valuing black lives.

    9) Black privilege is having media ignore problems in your community to protect you from criticism.

    10) Black privilege is being able to blame being pulled over because the officer's racism.

    11) Black privilege is being able to blame any of your shortcomings or failures on racism.


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    UnfairRepresent 15 minutes ago#74
    known2FAIL posted...

    You clearly are a sheltered person who knows nothing about the real world.

    Lazy retort with no substance

    known2FAIL posted...

    And you say it's racist for having pride in your race?

    Yes

    Although I never actually said that.


    FroMan posted...

    And the other side's argument sounds an awful like the "global warming doesn't exists because its snowing outside" argument.


    No it doesn't. In this scenario you have refused to explain how global warming exists beyond "you're just pretending you don't believe in it."

    You're basically Zarna:



    Everyone who disagrees with you is lying.

    I'll admit everyone sees and believes in White Privilege but is lying about it, after you agree with Zarna and admit most men are rapists who commit sexual assault frequently and men and women just deny it because they are lying.

    And he was never seen again


    Pogo_Marimo posted...

    I really hope someday you come to realize what a remarkable waste of time your whole GameFaqs persona is.


    Well I don't have one, so the few seconds you spent typing that was more of a waste of time.
    ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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    hypersonic2000 14 minutes ago#75
    Nope, just excuses from poor minorities.


    I'm an Indian American, for the record.
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    SpamtasticMrFox 8 minutes ago#76
    No.

    For the vast majority of people, privilege or lack of it is down to affluence. Better to be a rich black man than a poor white man.
    ArchiePeck 4 minutes ago#77
    known2FAIL posted...
    Of course it does. If you say no then you are naive and sheltered
    UnfairRepresent 1 minute ago#78
    I'm interested in whoever the user that voted "don't know" is, since every other user is so certain.

    I wonder if that makes him or her the smartest user on the site or the most foolish
    ^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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