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That is actually kind of interesting... I think it's because races, or at least what defines them outside of appearance, are manmade. If you did a massive child exchange, the babies would adapt to their parents and surroundings. Male and female brain functions are unique to themselves and you're born with one or the other, generally speaking.
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Hop103 posted...
Transracial (or any other trans unrelated to gender) is a mental illness, transgender is a natural thing. mind explaining further? |
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FourthDimension posted...
Being it implies that you think the color of your skin should affect the way you act and live your life. would it be considered to sexist on the other shoe? especially with the big push for 'gender equality' these days? |
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you believe gender roles exist in society? Of course they do. They're defined by society. People have expectations of how people of certain genders should act.
It's okay, I have no idea who I am either.
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Erik_P posted...
It looks like Ziggi is trying to get himself suspended again. if you keep harassing me, i will mark you. you have been warned. please play nice, erik, ok? |
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Go_Totodile posted...
Shut the f*** up Ziggi and get a job. same warning i gave erik goes for you. i'm asking you nicely to stop, ok? |
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Zareth posted...Doctor Foxx posted...Do you believe gender roles exist in society? Not so much racial roles as inherent stereotypes of how people of different races act normally. They're definitely less publicly tolerated than people's perceptions of gender roles, although I suspect those will be just as derided in the near future.
It's okay, I have no idea who I am either.
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Here are a few articles about why transracial is not a real thing, not equivalent to transgender, and is insulting:
http://www.businessinsider.com/transracial-is-not-the-same-thing-as-transgender-2015-6 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/12/comparison-transgender-people-rachel-dolezal http://www.salon.com/2015/06/15/rachel_dolezal_is_not_caitlyn_jenner_race_and_gender_are_not_the_same/
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Zareth posted...Doctor Foxx posted...Do you believe gender roles exist in society? they shouldn't, but they do, in the form of public stereotypes, racism, etc. |
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The reason why transracial is considered bad is because there are certain individuals with money and political clot whose entire career depends on racial issues. If race suddenly became something you could change then these individuals would be jobless. And since it endangers their job and might make them look stupid they go out of there way to demonize people who say they're transracial.
In other words race baiting is big business.
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ZiggiStardust posted...
FourthDimension posted...Being it implies that you think the color of your skin should affect the way you act and live your life. No, just the racist one. Cultures aren't really a product of nature, so you basically have to think you're a stereotype. Feeling like a male or a female (and not in a stupid "boys play sports" and "girls cook dinner" way) is out of one's control. Thought processes will be a little different at a core level. Relating to another race's interests doesn't mean you're black in a white body, it means you share values commonly held by other people who look different.
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i'd say dismissing the question based on "my shade of grey is darker than yours" doesn't hold a lot of water, though, ok?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
That is actually kind of interesting... I think it's because races, or at least what defines them outside of appearance, are manmade. If you did a massive child exchange, the babies would adapt to their parents and surroundings. Male and female brain functions are unique to themselves and you're born with one or the other, generally speaking. The same is literally true of gender as well. Neither is a thing unto itself, although there are biological differences to each with significance far greater than appearance. Hop103 posted... Transracial (or any other trans unrelated to gender) is a mental illness, transgender is a natural thing. Neither is natural. If it was, it wouldn't require surgery in every instance. Doctor Foxx posted... Here are a few articles about why transracial is not a real thing, not equivalent to transgender, and is insulting: To claim that one thing is real, you have to decry other things as not being real to give yours a greater semblance of legitimacy. Honestly, if somebody feels that they were born the wrong race, why shouldn't they be entitled to equal consideration as transgenders? The bias against it can largely be viewed as bigotry as well. After all, the outrage largely follows the same course as the reaction to transgenderism.
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Being male or female is objectively a different thing in nature, and it's not just penises and vaginas, but brain function. Even if some wires get crossed here and there, this is still true.
Cultural development (IE: what makes a race feel different from other races) is learned rather than an instinct. Saying otherwise is ridiculous and that's what makes "transracial" not a thing. At best, you could argue a white American adopting a black baby from Africa may cause the child to feel it relates better to white people, but it's not magically white now.
"message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888
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Why can't I wear makeup and a dress and ALSO identify as male?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Being male or female is objectively a different thing in nature, and it's not just penises and vaginas, but brain function. Even if some wires get crossed here and there, this is still true. Being a different race is also objectively a thing in nature... However, the entire cultural development argument is complete bulls*** because culture is transferred by nation rather than just race. An Asian born in America doesn't just magically have the culture of his nationality and, if he went back to his nation, he'd likely find himself out of place. Race doesn't even automatically give you language, which is the cornerstone of culture. Trying to correlate race and culture is complete hogwash. It's a matter of wrongly conflating race with nationality. More importantly, you've also gone so far as to also conflate biological sex with somewhat imposed gender roles, because some men will inherently have a more nurturing capacity than women while some women lack that capacity altogether (Jen being one apparent example). Having certain mental traits doesn't inherently make somebody more a man or a woman.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
TyVulpine posted...Only race is the human race. Cabbage is a race
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Being male or female is objectively a different thing in nature, and it's not just penises and vaginas, but brain function. Even if some wires get crossed here and there, this is still true. There are differences between races too (note tall black basketball players), but you've been conditioned to ignore it because race issues are still a sore subject.
RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuff |
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Smarkil posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...Do you believe gender roles exist in society? Which one is gender and which one is sex?
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Lokarin posted...
Smarkil posted...Doctor Foxx posted...Do you believe gender roles exist in society? I...I don't know. I watched the Bill Nye show and now I'm just confused.
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It depends on who you ask. If you ask someone with a social or political agenda, they will likely choose one or the other. Ie whatever pushes their specific political and social agenda. If you ask me .... I personally don't care what you identify as, as long as you aren't a complete dick about it.
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Go_Totodile posted...
Have you guys truly not learned from before? Is Ziggi leaving for a few months really all it takes for you guys to forget he's just trolling? Why are so many taking him seriously? this is your second warning. please stop, ok? |
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ZiggiStardust posted...
Go_Totodile posted...Have you guys truly not learned from before? Is Ziggi leaving for a few months really all it takes for you guys to forget he's just trolling? Why are so many taking him seriously? Warning about what? I don't think reminding people you're a sad little troll is a moddable offense.
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if that's true, how would you respond to what she says here:
"I think that 'trans-black' does suggest born under a different category but having an identity with the black community. "In America there's a sharp line between black and white and I'm not neutral, I find myself on the black side of all of those issues." |
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I don't care what anybody wants to identify themselves as. To claim it's okay to personally identify as one thing but not okay to personally identify as another would be hypocritical.
However, I don't think anybody deserves extra rights because of what they personally identify as.
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KroganCharr posted...
Gender, as opposed to sex, is performative. Race is just your skin color. THAT actually is racist, skin colour is not important!
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skin colour is clearly important otherwise there would be no racism
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Race dysphoria is a made up disorder while gender dysphoria isn't. "Race dysphorics" are dunces who live on another planet and should be treated as such. Pretty simple really.
Hop103 posted... Transracial (or any other trans unrelated to gender) is a mental illness, transgender is a natural thing. Sure, stretching the word natural though. |
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I dont think they are different, someday it will be normalized
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...Race dysphoria is a made up disorder Can't prove a negative
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Lokarin posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Citation needed.
Can't prove a negative
It's not a negative, I'm asking for proof it was manufactured.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffKyuubi4269 posted...Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Citation needed.
Can't prove a negative
It's not a negative, I'm asking for proof it was manufactured.
That requires a proof it exists first"Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videosLokarin posted...Smarkil posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you believe gender roles exist in society?
No because gender is a social construct
Which one is gender and which one is sex?
Gender is a construct, sex is not.FC: 2724-1435-8055 - IGN: Jay - Time Zone: EST
Mah main bro: NessHop103 posted...Transracial (or any other trans unrelated to gender) is a mental illness, transgender is also a mental illness.
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Smarkil posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you believe gender roles exist in society?
No because gender is a social construct
Which one is gender and which one is sex?
Gender is a construct, sex is not.
So what's the diff between a transgender and a transsexual?"Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videosLokarin posted...Blue_Thunder posted...
Lokarin posted...
Smarkil posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you believe gender roles exist in society?
No because gender is a social construct
Which one is gender and which one is sex?
Gender is a construct, sex is not.
So what's the diff between a transgender and a transsexual?
Social appearance.
Nice lay up, bro.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffLokarin posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Citation needed.
Can't prove a negative
It's not a negative, I'm asking for proof it was manufactured.
That requires a proof it exists first
According to you it exists as a falsehood, I'm asking you to tell me when this false entity came in to existence from nothing, as I'm sure it isn't false at all.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffjamieyello3 posted..."Mickey Mouse is not real."
Prove it.
Concept art.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffKyuubi4269 posted...jamieyello3 posted...
"Mickey Mouse is not real."
Prove it.
Concept art.
That doesn't prove he's not real. Could have been based off the real Mickey Mouse.jamieyello3 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
"Mickey Mouse is not real."
Prove it.
Concept art.
That doesn't prove he's not real. Could have been based off the real Mickey Mouse.
Based off, not a direct recreation. Mickey Mouse is a cartoon with a long documented history, what it's based off is not it.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffKyuubi4269 posted...Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Citation needed.
Can't prove a negative
It's not a negative, I'm asking for proof it was manufactured.
That requires a proof it exists first
According to you it exists as a falsehood, I'm asking you to tell me when this false entity came in to existence from nothing, as I'm sure it isn't false at all.
I can't bring any evidence for or against a claim that hasn't been made yet. I can't confirm nor deny the claim that race dysphoria is simply "made-up" until I have some evidence that it exists at all in some way in the first place. Using religion as an analogy - if someone said God is just made-up I wouldn't be able to confirm nor deny that claim unless I had some concept of God to begin with."Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videosWait, so now we're talking about the cartoon?
That's not what my statement was about but you did just confirm the cartoon is real.
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"I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429Lokarin posted...I can't confirm nor deny the claim that race dysphoria is simply "made-up"
jamieyello3 posted...Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Best not to argue on the same side as someone you don't agree with.RIP_Supa posted...
I've seen some stuffKyuubi4269 posted...Lokarin posted...
I can't confirm nor deny the claim that race dysphoria is simply "made-up"
jamieyello3 posted...Race dysphoria is a made up disorder
Best not to argue on the same side as someone you don't agree with.
Well, I don't mean to argue to be adversarial - just to bring forth the best quality information. If something is unclear I'd want more clarity."Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videosLokarin posted...Why can't I wear makeup and a dress and ALSO identify as male?
Before every millennial had their own gender, that was the world we lived in."message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888TheCyborgNinja posted...I think it's because races, or at least what defines them outside of appearance, are manmade.
I mean so are gender roles, right?Kyuubi4269 posted...jamieyello3 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
"Mickey Mouse is not real."
Prove it.
Concept art.
That doesn't prove he's not real. Could have been based off the real Mickey Mouse.
Based off, not a direct recreation. Mickey Mouse is a cartoon with a long documented history, what it's based off is not it.
mickey isn't even the 1st character. mortimer mouse wasKill From The ShadowsBut Mickey Mouse is real, I saw him flying across the sky yesterday. You can't prove me wrong.
He probably appeared to Walt because he saw his comics would be inferior without him.
Besides, how could a baby's smile be so beautiful if it weren't for Mickey Mouse.Ok, fair enough."Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videosLokarin posted...Why can't I wear makeup and a dress and ALSO identify as male?
You can, likewise you can wear pants and a t-shirt with no make-up and still identify as female.I am awesome and so are you.
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Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU HuskiesMuscles posted...The difference is that males and females have different brains so theoretically you can have a guys brain in a girls body and vice versa but there isn't a difference between white male brains or black male brains or Latino brains etc.
except brain transplants are not real, so you can't.Kill From The ShadowsLokarin posted...Cabbage is a race
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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.pngSmarkil posted...Doctor Foxx posted...
Do you believe gender roles exist in society?
No because gender is a social construct
You joking dude? Gender IS a SOCIAL construct, so of course gender roles exist in SOCIETY.It's okay, I have no idea who I am either.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.pngEightySeven posted...TheCyborgNinja posted...
I think it's because races, or at least what defines them outside of appearance, are manmade.
I mean so are gender roles, right?
The f***? Gender and gender roles aren't the same thing. One is "I'm male"/"I'm female" the other is boys playing with GI Joes and girls playing with Barbies. I feel like some people run head first into a wall for the sake of having something to say. God, I wish I could go back in time."message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888That's sex, not gender.It's okay, I have no idea who I am either.
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