jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
You're right. That's not a good example. So why did you post it?
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#102
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Clearly you do not otherwise you would realize needing Dolph Ziggler to carry the promos of a feud means you suck.
Can't disagree there in general. However I mean in Nakamura's defense, English isn't his first language so naturally his delivery is more likely to fall flat with an English speaking audience.
So you look at that issue and anyone in creative with any common sense would either give him a mouthpiece, or simply don't have him cut long-winded promos that are going to highlight his weaknesses.
And this has been my issue since day 1 with nak. We have 2 and 3 hour shows. If he's going to be a main eventer he has to be able to be a featured part of the show and if you can't communicate you can't do that.
Mouthpieces have never worked on non monsters they work even less with a good guy.
I definitely agree, if you can't communicate verbally in WWE, you should not be main eventing. However I do think if done right that a mouthpiece could work for a face, whether he's an upper midcarder or rubbing shoulders with the top brass. Enzo is probably as close a mouth piece for a face as you'll get right now, and it was working at first, until their act was driven into the ground by poor creative not doing anything with them. Say for example you had someone creative on the mic like an Estrada to be that bridge, I think he could still be over with the crowd as a face.
Yes but people loved Enzo when he was mouth piecing they didn't really care about big Cass. Which is exactly what you don't want to happen.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#103
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
You're right. That's not a good example. So why did you post it?
I didnt
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jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
Man is like a piece of cheese...
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
You're right. That's not a good example. So why did you post it?
I didnt
Yes you did. Let me reread it:
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass.
That is literally what you just posted.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#106
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo. If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
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jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
Yes you can. Look at all the people Bobby Heenan managed.
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I dragged my gf to a house show about 2 weeks ago. Balor was in the main event and when I told her it was the demon guy she was kind of excited, then when he just comes out as normal she was like "what he just looks like some guy" he put on a snooze of a match and looked like vanilla ice cream. We ran from the building to avoid traffic before his match was overl
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#109
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
Yes you can. Look at all the people Bobby Heenan managed.
Heenan was never bigger than someone like andre
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#110
monday nitro posted...
I dragged my gf to a house show about 2 weeks ago. Balor was in the main event and when I told her it was the demon guy she was kind of excited, then when he just comes out as normal she was like "what he just looks like some guy"
he put on a snooze of a match and looked like vanilla ice cream. We ran from the building to avoid traffic before his match was overl
Exactly
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jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
I'd reword that, though I do see your point. I think you can be a main eventer with the look, talent, and a good enough mouthpiece, face or heel, but if you want to be THE guy, you can't. Nobody ever has been and nobody ever will be. It's just too big a job, and pushing someone as the top guy when they're lacking something from their locker isn't justifiable.
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The fact some of you are trying SO HARD to defend the undeniable blandness of Balor/Nakamura proves you're in denial about how absolute s*** they are and will fail hard. But who is the most praised guy around here? Braun Strowman. Gee, it's almost like big dudes are meant for wrestling and have greater appeal than indy fads.
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
Yes you can. Look at all the people Bobby Heenan managed.
Heenan was never bigger than someone like andre
It doesn't matter. You can have a mouthpiece to carry your main eventer.
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Heatseeker500 posted...
Dude wtf lol. Balor as good as Benoit?!? How? Are you high?
Seriously. That was a pretty ridiculous statement. And I like Nak, but come on.
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TheCurseX2 posted...
The fact some of you are trying SO HARD to defend the undeniable blandness of Balor/Nakamura proves you're in denial about how absolute s*** they are and will fail hard.
But who is the most praised guy around here? Braun Strowman. Gee, it's almost like big dudes are meant for wrestling and have greater appeal than indy fads.
That's not aimed at me, is it? I 100% agree with you on Balor lol. Nakamura the way he's being portrayed honestly isn't much better either. I think he's unique and could work with good writing, but as he is right now it's bland, untapped potential.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#116
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
I'd reword that, though I do see your point. I think you can be a main eventer with the look, talent, and a good enough mouthpiece, face or heel, but if you want to be THE guy, you can't. Nobody ever has been and nobody ever will be. It's just too big a job, and pushing someone as the top guy when they're lacking something from their locker isn't justifiable.
Nak isn't good enough at anything to challenge the status quo.hes not Daniel Bryan or cm punk. He doesn't have the presence of a Goldberg to be the man even though he's only on the show a few minutes and barely speaks.
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Problem with Nakamura is he doesn't come off as anything but f***ing weird. If his character was supposed to look like a lunatic, maybe it'd work, but he's supposed to be all cool and s*** but he sways and makes facial expressions like he just saw a squid f*** an octopus or something. Now combine that with his inability to speak and you're left with an entrance sing-along and 15 minutes of boredom from an audience that can't connect to him.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#118
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
Yes you can. Look at all the people Bobby Heenan managed.
Heenan was never bigger than someone like andre
It doesn't matter. You can have a mouthpiece to carry your main eventer.
I didn't say you can't. I said you can't have a mouth piece that's more popular than you.
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
Yes you can. Look at all the people Bobby Heenan managed.
Heenan was never bigger than someone like andre
It doesn't matter. You can have a mouthpiece to carry your main eventer.
I didn't say you can't. I said you can't have a mouth piece that's more popular than you.
Yes you can.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#120
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
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Good mouthpieces ADD to a character, not overshadow a character. Imagine if Paul Bearer made people not give a s*** about The Undertaker or Kane. Lana overshadowed Rusev, that's a fact, there's no shame in admitting it. Nakamura getting a mouthpiece means he needs a total shift in character because his current one doesn't work for a mouthpiece.
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jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
I'd reword that, though I do see your point. I think you can be a main eventer with the look, talent, and a good enough mouthpiece, face or heel, but if you want to be THE guy, you can't. Nobody ever has been and nobody ever will be. It's just too big a job, and pushing someone as the top guy when they're lacking something from their locker isn't justifiable.
Nak isn't good enough at anything to challenge the status quo.
He doesn't have the presence of a Goldberg to be the man even though he's only on the show a few minutes and barely speaks.
I'm not gonna disagree there at all. There are extremely few wrestlers today in the main event scene who have that presence. I don't even think Ryback had much of a presence about him. He looked intimidating but to me he came across as an overly-manufactured knock off. That's why I'm so down on wrestling now. My view is they're doing things backwards by putting ring work ahead of everything else. The work rate never drew the masses in, the characters and talkers did.
Man is like a piece of cheese...
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And speaking of CHARACTER, what the hell is Nakamura's character? And Balor's for that matter? Back in the old days you got a sense from who was who and what they were easily. Now it's like... uh, this guy likes violins and flashy jackets? This guy occasionally has a psychotic breakdown and paints himself like a raver tripping balls? What the f*** are these kids?
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#124
Exactly. That's why it's almost always monsters who work with mouth pieces. Their presence athleticism and strength are the draw. Nak does nothing to stand out he can't do what a guy like Lesnar does/did to keep us interested in him.
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jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
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Heatseeker500 posted...
That's why I'm so down on wrestling now. My view is they're doing things backwards by putting ring work ahead of everything else. The work rate never drew the masses in, the characters and talkers did.
Exactly brudda. You can have the best chef in the world but if he can't perfect presentation and make you wanna dig into his food, then you're not giving a s*** how good he is because it looks BORING and thrown together.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#127
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
Heatseeker500 posted...
jay7018 posted...
But people loved Enzo they didn't love big Cass. That's not a good example at all.
Enzo was more over than Cass but they were still high on Cass as well, and interacted with him during their weekly shtick. Same with someone like Billy Gunn.
I think any good will towards big Cass was just residual cheer leftover from Enzo.
If the goal is being a main eventer you can't be upstaged by your mouthpiece.
I'd reword that, though I do see your point. I think you can be a main eventer with the look, talent, and a good enough mouthpiece, face or heel, but if you want to be THE guy, you can't. Nobody ever has been and nobody ever will be. It's just too big a job, and pushing someone as the top guy when they're lacking something from their locker isn't justifiable.
Nak isn't good enough at anything to challenge the status quo.
He doesn't have the presence of a Goldberg to be the man even though he's only on the show a few minutes and barely speaks.
I'm not gonna disagree there at all. There are extremely few wrestlers today in the main event scene who have that presence. I don't even think Ryback had much of a presence about him. He looked intimidating but to me he came across as an overly-manufactured knock off.
That's why I'm so down on wrestling now. My view is they're doing things backwards by putting ring work ahead of everything else. The work rate never drew the masses in, the characters and talkers did.
Your preaching to the choir. Which is why I love a guy like styles. His character his cockiness his attitude is supported by how good he is in the ring. If you're just a great wrestler I don't care.
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Nakamura can be good, but he seems to phone it in a lot. A lot of people say his english is fine, which it is for basic conversation, but not for cutting a good promo. Balor...I liked him at first but as time went on in NXT...I think he's kinda lame. He is not very good with promos, and his matches just aren't interesting. The only Balor match I think I ever enjoyed, ironically, was with Nakamura. Now, in fairness, I have heard a lot of people say he worked much better as a heel in NJPW. But the other problem I have with him is that he just looks to small to me. Like he shouldn't be playing with the big boys.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#129
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
No they weren't. They both had a decent run before their departure that they asked for.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#131
TheCurseX2 posted...
And speaking of CHARACTER, what the hell is Nakamura's character? And Balor's for that matter?
Back in the old days you got a sense from who was who and what they were easily. Now it's like... uh, this guy likes violins and flashy jackets? This guy occasionally has a psychotic breakdown and paints himself like a raver tripping balls? What the f*** are these kids?
Exactly. My biggest problem with most of these Indy guys is their characters are indistinguishable from one another.
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jay7018 posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...
And speaking of CHARACTER, what the hell is Nakamura's character? And Balor's for that matter?
Back in the old days you got a sense from who was who and what they were easily. Now it's like... uh, this guy likes violins and flashy jackets? This guy occasionally has a psychotic breakdown and paints himself like a raver tripping balls? What the f*** are these kids?
Exactly. My biggest problem with most of these Indy guys is their characters are indistinguishable from one another.
Man is like a piece of cheese...
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#133
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
No they weren't. They both had a decent run before their departure that they asked for.
Decent run? WTF did orndorf ever do?
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
No they weren't. They both had a decent run before their departure that they asked for.
Decent run? WTF did orndorf ever do?
Main evented with Hulk Hogan to draw over 64,000 fans at the Exhibition Stadium in Toronto on August 28, 1986. The biggest house ever before Wrestlemania 3. And in those days, houses drew based on the main event and the undercard got paid based on that house. Now, I suppose you're going to tell me that Hogan was 100% responsible for drawing that crowd and it didn't matter who his opponent was. That is 100% false.
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sky_byte posted...
Nakamura can be good, but he seems to phone it in a lot. A lot of people say his english is fine, which it is for basic conversation, but not for cutting a good promo.
Balor...I liked him at first but as time went on in NXT...I think he's kinda lame. He is not very good with promos, and his matches just aren't interesting. The only Balor match I think I ever enjoyed, ironically, was with Nakamura. Now, in fairness, I have heard a lot of people say he worked much better as a heel in NJPW. But the other problem I have with him is that he just looks to small to me. Like he shouldn't be playing with the big boys.
He's 6'2", 229lbs.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#137
JacktheBoss posted...
sky_byte posted...
Nakamura can be good, but he seems to phone it in a lot. A lot of people say his english is fine, which it is for basic conversation, but not for cutting a good promo.
Balor...I liked him at first but as time went on in NXT...I think he's kinda lame. He is not very good with promos, and his matches just aren't interesting. The only Balor match I think I ever enjoyed, ironically, was with Nakamura. Now, in fairness, I have heard a lot of people say he worked much better as a heel in NJPW. But the other problem I have with him is that he just looks to small to me. Like he shouldn't be playing with the big boys.
He's 6'2", 229lbs.
Balor is not 6"2 229. Learn to read
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#138
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
No they weren't. They both had a decent run before their departure that they asked for.
Decent run? WTF did orndorf ever do?
Main evented with Hulk Hogan to draw over 64,000 fans at the Exhibition Stadium in Toronto on August 28, 1986. The biggest house ever before Wrestlemania 3. And in those days, houses drew based on the main event and the undercard got paid based on that house.
Now, I suppose you're going to tell me that Hogan was 100% responsible for drawing that crowd and it didn't matter who his opponent was. That is 100% false.
So he rode the coattails of arguably the biggest draw ever, gotcha.
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Orndorff in WWE today would be a f***ing monster. Imagine what good writing could do for him vs Brock for goodness sake lol.
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
Well you can but you will be unemployed sooner than later. Like del Rio.
No you can't. Look at Heenan/Orndoff or Heenan/Rick Rude.
Both of those guys were let go.
No they weren't. They both had a decent run before their departure that they asked for.
Decent run? WTF did orndorf ever do?
Main evented with Hulk Hogan to draw over 64,000 fans at the Exhibition Stadium in Toronto on August 28, 1986. The biggest house ever before Wrestlemania 3. And in those days, houses drew based on the main event and the undercard got paid based on that house.
Now, I suppose you're going to tell me that Hogan was 100% responsible for drawing that crowd and it didn't matter who his opponent was. That is 100% false.
So he rode the coattails of arguably the biggest draw ever, gotcha.
No, he helped draw the card. Learn to read.
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jay7018 posted...
JacktheBoss posted...
sky_byte posted...
Nakamura can be good, but he seems to phone it in a lot. A lot of people say his english is fine, which it is for basic conversation, but not for cutting a good promo.
Balor...I liked him at first but as time went on in NXT...I think he's kinda lame. He is not very good with promos, and his matches just aren't interesting. The only Balor match I think I ever enjoyed, ironically, was with Nakamura. Now, in fairness, I have heard a lot of people say he worked much better as a heel in NJPW. But the other problem I have with him is that he just looks to small to me. Like he shouldn't be playing with the big boys.
He's 6'2", 229lbs.
Balor is not 6"2 229. Learn to read
Well...s***.
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jay7018 posted...
These guys are just terrible. Literally depending on others to carry the builds of all their feuds then getting rewarded with victories for doing nothing.
I blame the smarks.
Lol.
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The more I think about, the more I'm convinced that Punk and Bryan were the only indy guys who deserved the Cena/Part Timer treatment.
They were not only good wrestlers, but had distinct personas as well. No surprise they're the only indy guys that became megapopular. To a lesser extent, you could probably make a case for AJ, but that's about it.
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dmaduruh posted...
The more I think about, the more I'm convinced that Punk and Bryan were the only indy guys who deserved the Cena/Part Timer treatment.
They were not only good wrestlers, but had distinct personas as well. No surprise they're the only indy guys that became megapopular. To a lesser extent, you could probably make a case for AJ, but that's about it.
I would agree with this. Punk and Bryan are the only two indy guys that had me really invested in their characters. Part of that is booking, but part of that is on them. A big part of that is also that they were both booked with good heel runs before they really got over. SES Punk and No Bryan were hella entertaining. AJ is just now starting on his post-heel run, so we'll see where he goes with it.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#146
BaronNugget posted...
Looks like this topic has achieved it's goal :/
To create discussion about 2 overrated wrestlers further watering down an already watered down WWE.
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jay7018 posted...
BaronNugget posted...
Looks like this topic has achieved it's goal :/
To create discussion about 2 overrated wrestlers further watering down an already watered down WWE.
Except the two overrated wrestlers aren't overrated. They are rated just right.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#148
dmaduruh posted...
The more I think about, the more I'm convinced that Punk and Bryan were the only indy guys who deserved the Cena/Part Timer treatment.
They were not only good wrestlers, but had distinct personas as well. No surprise they're the only indy guys that became megapopular. To a lesser extent, you could probably make a case for AJ, but that's about it.
I agree. My issue with Bryan though was what was gonna happen after he finally won. Bryans distinct persona as an underdog always had a shelf life he didn't have a base to build on like a Shawn Michael's. He was just the underdog. Punk though had everything to be big for a while.
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(Topic Creator)1 week ago#149
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
BaronNugget posted...
Looks like this topic has achieved it's goal :/
To create discussion about 2 overrated wrestlers further watering down an already watered down WWE.
Except the two overrated wrestlers aren't overrated. They are rated just right.
They aren't.
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jay7018 posted...
Amazak posted...
jay7018 posted...
BaronNugget posted...
Looks like this topic has achieved it's goal :/
To create discussion about 2 overrated wrestlers further watering down an already watered down WWE.
Except the two overrated wrestlers aren't overrated. They are rated just right.
They aren't.
They are.
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Man is like a piece of cheese...Amazak posted...
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I agree as long as it's the guru the movie. As In worst ever.Official Pimp Hand of Tampa Bay RaysYour opinion is meaningless since you're nobody. Gabe Sapolsky wouldn't spit in your direction.jay7018 posted...
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