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So I've recently heard there have been some severe permanent bans, albeit they seem to be just for people who have Custom apps and the like, but I'm kinda concerned on the matter, I recently bought a 2nd-hand 2DS, the previous owner said it was clean, but further digging around leaves me to suspect that the console was hacked at some point, but it's clean now (I've checked... I think).
Anyway this is pure speculation, but could the 2DS could have been blacklisted before and now is at risk of getting banned? I've heard this banwave seems to be happening to users that have been using hacks for a long time. I really like this 2DS, and I really don't have money to buy another one for now. I have another 3DS and here comes my second concern, I've used homebrew on this 2nd 3DS, just to take some pictures of Pokémon Sun and Moon, nothing else really, and a friend has given me some hacked shiny Pokémon they are just sitting in my PC, but now I'm kinda paranoid this might get my 3DS banned, my friend told me I'm fine, but I'm pretty nervous, I don't want to release them either (I will if I need to) Is there any risk for me? TL;DR I think my 2DS was hacked at some point, I used Homebrew briefly at some point in another 3DS and I have some hacked pokémon, gifted from a friend, am I at risk of getting banned?
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I don't think they've retroacted bans. So, if you're currently running legit OS on your systems and they do a sweep, you'll be fine.
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NeonDragon9000 posted...
Hopefully. It's what all modders deserve. Lol, I kinda agree, still I really haven't modded my console, but that's up for debate, and you seem to be the kind of fellow that is eager to bring out the pitchforks...
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EverLastingFate posted...
I don't think they've retroacted bans. So, if you're currently running legit OS on your systems and they do a sweep, you'll be fine. Hopefully, my friend seems pretty confident himself, although he really has some reasons to be more afraid than I am at this point. I've also heard this ban has claimed some "clean" victims, is this true?
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NeonDragon9000 posted...
Hopefully. It's what all modders deserve. Why?
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I don't even play any 3ds games online anymore. Only one worth it was Kid Icarus, Monster Hunter 4, and Fantasy Life imo. I don't see why anyone with homebrew should get banned unless they are using it for cheats or an upper hand. just Nintendo being heavy handed as usual.
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shinyspheal posted...
EverLastingFate posted...I don't think they've retroacted bans. So, if you're currently running legit OS on your systems and they do a sweep, you'll be fine. Nope. Every modder who's ever gotten caught and banned has some dumb reason why they aren't at fault. They took a risk, got caught, and lie to try to escape the consequences. If you let a friend use your 3DS and they mod it, you took a risk trusting that person. You bought a used 3DS and it came modded? You gambled on a third-party, hoping for a lower price and it didn't pay off. Nintendo doesn't ban people at random. If they weren't certain there was cause, they wouldn't ban. Modders reap the fruit of their labor, and won't receive help or sympathy here. kaliskonig posted... I don't even play any 3ds games online anymore. Only one worth it was Kid Icarus, Monster Hunter 4, and Fantasy Life imo. I don't see why anyone with homebrew should get banned unless they are using it for cheats or an upper hand. just Nintendo being heavy handed as usual. As long as you keep online functions turned off you won't get banned. If you are using online functions, you shouldn't be modding. Pick one.
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There is no rhyme or reason for the banwave, obviously the 2 'naughty' things are a big possibility, otherwise no concrete proof. Innocent systems have been hit. Data has been logged for a while now, that much is known, so if you are marked, there is no escape.
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Ok, Yeah I guess if I bought it 2nd-hand I have to cope with the concequences, looks like I'm fine for now, anyways, thanks for all the input :)
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seregaur posted...
As long as you keep online functions turned off you won't get banned. If you are using online functions, you shouldn't be modding. Pick one. You shouldn't have to pick. If you are not modding games it shouldn't matter wth you are doing to your hardware in this instance. Nintendo is certainly not looking out for the players in this instance. evidence being you can still access the eshop with a ban apparently. Nintendo is being Nintendo as usual.
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Finn-X posted...
I have a hacked console and I got my ass permanently banned haha At least you're banned with an IPS screen, right? ^_^
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seregaur posted...
Finn-X posted...I have a hacked console and I got my ass permanently banned haha Dual IPS but no online so f***
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seregaur posted...
Finn-X posted...I have a hacked console and I got my ass permanently banned haha Lol
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It's legal to modify your system in the US as long as piracy isn't involved. I'm sure there are plenty of people who use homebrew/CFW for legit purposes (such as custom themes) so what Nintendo is doing is incredibly heavy handed and pointless. There are already methods to circumvent the bans and it's only a matter of time until modders find a way to make the bans a non issue.
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1010101010 posted...
It's legal to modify your system in the US as long as piracy isn't involved. I'm sure there are plenty of people who use homebrew/CFW for legit purposes (such as custom themes) so what Nintendo is doing is incredibly heavy handed and pointless. There are already methods to circumvent the bans and it's only a matter of time until modders find a way to make the bans a non issue. Yeah, I too think it's kinda harsh, specially if you are inexperienced in the matter, altough I get why they are doing it, hopefully my 2DS won't get banned, which is the one I'm more concerned about.
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I modified my console long ago and I knew the risk, I haven't been banned yet but I expect it to come any day now. I don't really care that much as I very rarely use the online features in the first place.
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shinyspheal posted...
Anyway this is pure speculation, but could the 2DS could have been blacklisted before and now is at risk of getting banned? I've heard this banwave seems to be happening to users that have been using hacks for a long time. I really like this 2DS, and I really don't have money to buy another one for now. Well, two questions: Did you format the system after you got it? If yes, you should be OK. If no, did you opt-in to send data to Nintendo? It's only speculation but that seems to be the culprit for Nintendo's blacklists / banlists. If you have homebrew you can back up your pokemon on the 2nd 3DS easily. (Of course, you can also recreate them pretty easily too, but I suppose some people are into semantics.) I'd say it's worth doing even if you weren't at risk of a ban because it's free. And as above, if you haven't you might want to opt out of sending data to Nintendo on that system.
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That's why you do this stuff with a spare 3ds. Not your main one that you connect to the internet all the time so that Nintendo can see what you're doing.
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No one who has said their clean consoles who got hit have provided proof. This along with the tiny amount of reports from unmodded consoles vs modded ones leads me to believe that the "clean" ones are either lying or they are like the OP and bought a console that had been modded in the past secondhand.
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Now where are all the CFW users that tell everyone this is risk free to hack? Glad I didn't listen.
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I think thus far the reported bans are only users with CFW. Not just homebrew but firmwares with modded signatures.
I got banned yesterday. I played online in Animal Crossing just the day before, then I wanted to update my Dream Suite and it banned me. I own all my 3DS games on another 3DS XL but I wanted to redownload everything without purchasing and without system-transferring to my New 3DS and then get certain Japanese games that will have fanmade translations and whatnot, so my console got marked for a ban. I can still play, just not online. TBH, aside from money nothing is really different when having a 3DS with CFW and pirated games. I had about the same amount of games on the other 3DS over a couple of years, and once you've purchased them you don't think about it. On the Nintendo DS pirating meant a lot to me because I could have every single game on one Flash Cartridge and the library was so huge on Nintendo DS I had to try out a lot of games I wasn't going to buy otherwise. With 3DS you have every app on the home-screen anyway. Only really good thing CFWs brought are region-free so you can play certain games with NoA vs NoE localization (Zeldas are markedly different in translation) and games like Dai Gyakuten Saiban get translated by fans when s***ty Capcom won't localize it, so that's actually a positive thing in my eyes, but unauthorized use is unauthorized use. I'm just surprised it took THIS long for Nintendo to react.
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nodnizzle posted...
Now where are all the CFW users that tell everyone this is risk free to hack? Glad I didn't listen. The benefits certainly outweigh the "lolrisks" |
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apparently people who had cfw just for streaming on youtube are also getting hit. it's definitely a wide sweep and anyone who has cfw who isn't banned will probably be banned in the coming week or two
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usuratonkachi posted...
apparently people who had cfw just for streaming on youtube are also getting hit. it's definitely a wide sweep and anyone who has cfw who isn't banned will probably be banned in the coming week or two It's the fake signatures found in the custom firmwares that Nintendo can track when they see online user activity, I think. That's what they look out for and will mark all fake sigs as "unauthorized software usage" getting you instabanned. Keep your 3DS offline or revert to non-hacked if you want to keep playing online.
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ProfessorKukui posted...
nodnizzle posted...Now where are all the CFW users that tell everyone this is risk free to hack? Glad I didn't listen. Yeah, I gotta say, enabling the extra CPU on n3DS or swapping the soundtrack in AC:NL for the Gamecube music just made me a happier 3DS owner. I don't play online that much anyway.
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asbsand posted...
usuratonkachi posted...apparently people who had cfw just for streaming on youtube are also getting hit. it's definitely a wide sweep and anyone who has cfw who isn't banned will probably be banned in the coming week or two yeah they do track what you use in your activity log not sure if staying offline or even reverting back would do anything now. staying offline basically means you're banning yourself and people are saying they've been collecting data for months and already have a list so even if you revert back now you can be hit. how much data they have is unclear, but they were hiring people to help with security some time ago so maybe it was shortly after that |
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You all do realize that those same people have easy methods of getting around bans, right?
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emagdnE posted...
You all do realize that those same people have easy methods of getting around bans, right? ya there are methods to work around it but the wise ones are waiting for the dust to settle first no point fixing it just to get banned again |
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nodnizzle posted...
Now where are all the CFW users that tell everyone this is risk free to hack? Glad I didn't listen. Only CFW if you have another 3DS tbh, I'm only using homebrew on an alt 3DS but I think it's high time I see some CFW action
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emagdnE posted...
You all do realize that those same people have easy methods of getting around bans, right? There's no good way to get around a ban currently. This is coming from someone who is semi-active in the scene and got banned for having CFW installed but only original games. Also had quite a few games purchased with my account. Nintendo actually only banned the use of online services, but the eShop still works. Guess they still want your money. But as far as I know you can still pirate and play games without problems. |
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it actaully really sucks that Nintendo is doing this. i imagine were gonna lose a fair number of people in various games online and it felt like online population in a lot of games was already going down the tube.Sun and moon`s release would have been a much smarter window to do this cause the switch wasnt out already. Now it feel more like a kick in the face everyone even non CFW people.
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So many custom firmware users in this thread. *waves* I still love the hell out of my custom firmware 3DS and last I checked I am still not banned. I figure it's only a matter of time as I am sure I'm on Nintendo's naughty list. But this has been one hell of a ride and like any good captain I will go down with my ship and accept my fate.
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AwesomePerson99 posted...
So many custom firmware users in this thread. *waves* I still love the hell out of my custom firmware 3DS and last I checked I am still not banned. I figure it's only a matter of time as I am sure I'm on Nintendo's naughty list. But this has been one hell of a ride and like any good captain I will go down with my ship and accept my fate. Still only at homebrew level but I plan on evolving soon. Don't think I'll be caught either since I'm only using a non online 3DS for those activities while my Main is hackfree
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GiftedACIII posted...
AwesomePerson99 posted...So many custom firmware users in this thread. *waves* I still love the hell out of my custom firmware 3DS and last I checked I am still not banned. I figure it's only a matter of time as I am sure I'm on Nintendo's naughty list. But this has been one hell of a ride and like any good captain I will go down with my ship and accept my fate. I went from Homebrew, to EmuNAND CFW, to SysNAND CFW, and am on the latest CFW stuff. So yeah you'll get there it's a transition as you get more and more used to it and deeper into it you take more risks. I personally hacked my 3DS because I was pissed at the butchered Fire Emblem: If localization. Because of that one action I've also been able to play other great games I wouldn't have been able to play otherwise such as Beyond the Labyrinth which I recommend by the way, it's also funnily enough one of the games to make best use of the 3DS' 3D effect.
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AwesomePerson99 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...AwesomePerson99 posted...So many custom firmware users in this thread. *waves* I still love the hell out of my custom firmware 3DS and last I checked I am still not banned. I figure it's only a matter of time as I am sure I'm on Nintendo's naughty list. But this has been one hell of a ride and like any good captain I will go down with my ship and accept my fate. Oh god there's layers of CFW? lol, looks like I'll have a lot of catching up to do whenever I do decide to get to it. Just like you, I'm mainly doing it for Fire Emblem and Pokemon editing too
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GiftedACIII posted...
Just like you, I'm mainly doing it for Fire Emblem and Pokemon editing too Powersaves is easier than CFW if that's all you want. (Pls no hacked Mons or FE characters online though...)
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irulethegalaxy posted...
GiftedACIII posted...Just like you, I'm mainly doing it for Fire Emblem and Pokemon editing too I use pkhex which is millions of times more efficient than Powersaves. Of course, that doesn't require CFW but I've had my eyes on that Nova Sun difficulty mod that does. Plus I also want to try the undub Fire Emblem and I don't have the DLC installed on my "alt" 3ds.
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