1995https://www.instagram.com/p/BLH1NwwjbxQ/2004
I've said this many times before, but I see two potentials for Nintendo:
1) DOOMED--meaning software publisher only, which really isn't doom (although one wonders how many copies of Super Mario Sunshine would actually sell if it was forced to directly compete with the Jaks and Ratchets and Princes of the world); and
2) Apple--meaning they've built up enough of a core audience of devoted consumers that will always buy their hardware products to make a healthy profit, even if they have an extremely small marketshare in that overall hardware market.
The Nintendo fanboys of GAF may have an insatiable appetite for Nintendo products, but the video game market as a whole doesn't. Total GCN hardware numbers will fall short of Nintendo 64 hardware numbers when the system is eventually put out to pasture. Software numbers for Nintendo's legendary series will also not match their Nintendo 64 counterparts. This is a downward trend. Will Nintendo drop out tomorrow, the next month, the next year? No. But if the DS Gambit isn't successful and they don't end GCN on a high note and come out swinging next gen against Xbox 2 and PS3, 2006 it will be the third console cycle of downward trends for Nintendo. And IMHO, only those two options listed above are possible if that happens.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19802
Nix: PSP. With the Nintendo DS, I can smell something good in the kitchen, but with the PlayStation Portable, I can taste it. This is the portable system that gamers have been waiting all along for, ever since the PlayStation burst on the scene and pushed the business to where it is now. The console biz is reaching a saturation point, and PSP would be a great overflow for talented works to get their due. DS will be quite cool and quite different, but Nintendo's approach just doesn't seem to have the oomph to push it gamers to it, whereas Sony is sitting at the wheel of a bulldozer. As long as they don't grind their gears out...
http://ign.com/articles/2004/08/07/nintendo-ds-vs-psp-round-2?page=72011
For better or for worse, Vita will be pitted against the Nintendo 3DS. But the comparison doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and even if you were to pit them against each other, Vita is still destined to sell better. That's because in addition to games (which Nintendo 3DS is still sorely lacking), it's also a much more powerful machine capable of doing a whole lot more than 3DS.
It will have full access to an actual online service in the PlayStation Network, it will utilize a series of popular third-party applications, and it will come in an optional model that lets you go online anywhere you get cell phone service. It doesn't depend on an antiquated online interface. It has the potential to be a ubiquitously connected device, one that is being set-up to speak directly with your PlayStation 3 over the PlayStation Network. Vita is therefore not only echelons ahead of 3DS in terms of games, but it's light years ahead of Nintendo's handheld in terms of tech. Comparing the two isn't even really fair, as I've discussed before, and it's a fallacy to continue to do so.
http://ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeedDoomed!
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Lol Vita.
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Lol Vita.
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Doomed since 1889.
Eternal truth
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Nintendo's long game is strong af. I'm convinced they'll outlast both Sony and MS, at least assuming they all continue to follow the same course.
Do unto others what your parents did to you.
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(Topic Creator)4 hours ago#11
The comment about Nintendo having a future like Apple is hilarious on both levels.
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Nintendo is doomed about as much as any other video game company is doomed.
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Darmik posted...
The comment about Nintendo having a future like Apple is hilarious on both levels.
Except that's pretty much what happened to Nintendo. They're considered something of a lifestyle in the vein Apple is. Just take a look at Nintendo's products almost any time something comes out, there's always a huge line and product sells out instantly. Artificial shortages or not.
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(Topic Creator)3 hours ago#14
EverDownward posted...
Darmik posted...
The comment about Nintendo having a future like Apple is hilarious on both levels.
Except that's pretty much what happened to Nintendo. They're considered something of a lifestyle in the vein Apple is. Just take a look at Nintendo's products almost any time something comes out, there's always a huge line and product sells out instantly. Artificial shortages or not.
That comment was before Apple became huge and were that quirky, niche side company that made ads with Justin Long dissing PC. He incorrectly predicted the future of both Apple and Nintendo thanks to that comparison.
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(Topic Creator)3 hours ago#15
Will the Revolution be the successor to the Gamecube?
Will the Nintendo Revolution be the GameCube successor after all, or not?
Earlier this week, Satoru Iwata told the Japanese press that, even when the Nintendo Revolution would be launched, Nintendo would still support the GameCube. He also hinted that the Nintendo Revolution would be released in Japan somewhere near the end of next year already.
Today, the newest edition of the popular magazine Nintendo Dream showed something odd. Nintendo more or less confirmed to the magazine that the Nintendo Revolution and the GameCube will co-exist.
Nintendo probably meant that the GameCube and the revolution will co-exist for a limited time, and that they will support both consoles at that time. If this is not the case, the gaming public (that's you) is facing four products from Nintendo: the GameCube, the Nintendo DS, the Game Boy Advance 2 and the Nintendo Revolution.
well I think GameCube will be around until 2008 so it will have to co-exist with Revolution for a few years.
Nintendo will basicly have 5 systems on the market at once. GameCube GBA / GBA SP Nintendo DS Nintendo Revolution GBA successor
at least for awhile, until GBA SP and GameCube are discontinued probably sometime late in this decade.
lol. Man history really does repeat.
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Nintendo's last Doom game was Doom 64. LOL
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(Topic Creator)3 hours ago#17
Ammonitida posted...
Nintendo's last Doom game was Doom 64. LOL
Wasn't there one for GBA?
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Nintendo shouldn't have made enemies with SquareSoft back in the day. I'm telling you.
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(Topic Creator)3 hours ago#19
Nintendo fails to get its act together. Controllers are the worst I've ever seenhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgli7LlUgAAQ8Y4.jpg1986
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I forgot people thought the GBA would stick around longer and also have a successor that wasn't the DS.
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Darmik posted...
well I think GameCube will be around until 2008 so it will have to co-exist with Revolution for a few years.
Nintendo will basicly have 5 systems on the market at once. GameCube GBA / GBA SP Nintendo DS Nintendo Revolution GBA successor
at least for awhile, until GBA SP and GameCube are discontinued probably sometime late in this decade.
Geez, Nintendo having five systems out on the market at the same time--and supporting each of them--would have been awful.
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(Topic Creator)3 hours ago#22
It's amusing how literally people take Nintendo's statements of "this is not a successor to this system" I think in Nintendo's world it's only a successor if it's something like the Super Nintendo, Wii U or 3DS. Otherwise it's just a new platform. Even though by any other metric it is a successor.
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Doomed since 1889.
GENESIS DOES You can't do that on Nintendo!GENESIS GENESIS GENESIS DOES What Nintendon't
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Apple hasn't had significant growths in a while. As much as I don't like iOS being an Android developer =_=, I still have to give it a lot of credit for paving a lot of new ways to live, just as much as Nintendo paved new ways to play games, despite how much people hate new ways to play. But Nintendo I think maintained innovation, and now they're getting really good sales and retained much of their fans where Apple became utterly dominated by Google in terms of innovation.
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Doomed since 1889.
Yeah, people have been saying this, since f***ing forever now.
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Oh, crap. I thought he said 1989.
<_<
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(Topic Creator)2 hours ago#27
I wonder if there's some old timey Japanese news article about Nintendo's love hotels and cards being the end of Nintendo.
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"A new zelda game? lol nintendo is doomed"
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Because Sega does what Nintendon't
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(Moderator)2 hours ago#30
Skye Reynolds posted...
Oh, crap. I thought he said 1989.
<_<
Nintendo was founded way back then, though.
Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx
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Darmik posted...
I wonder if there's some old timey Japanese news article about Nintendo's love hotels and cards being the end of Nintendo.
Honestly, I think that's the closest Nintendo came to actually being doomed, because it was just one failed venture after another. They're lucky that someone there decided to focus on video games.
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I'm still trying to find a Switch, but I decided to wait till Mario came out to see how good that will be.
It's far better to be alive than to be dead
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Darmik posted...
even if you were to pit them against each other, Vita is still destined to sell better.
lol as much as I love my vita, lol
THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF
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(Topic Creator)1 hour ago#34
The comment about the NES controller being terrible because it doesn't have a joystick is so damn Nintendo. It's funny that people point to their older stuff as examples as to how Nintendo has changed. When really it's them being exactly the same.
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Craig: DS.You know, I don't play handhelds to get the console experience on the go. I play them to get an experience I don't get on the consoles...and it seems to me that all the PSP is going to do is offer up some PS2 quality games in a handheld. I want something significantly different in my gaming, and that's why I'm totally stoked for the Nintendo DS system. Bring on the dual-screen, touchscreen gaming.
This guy nailed it. The other 4 though... smh.
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(Topic Creator)1 hour ago#36
SpiralDrift posted...
Craig: DS.You know, I don't play handhelds to get the console experience on the go. I play them to get an experience I don't get on the consoles...and it seems to me that all the PSP is going to do is offer up some PS2 quality games in a handheld. I want something significantly different in my gaming, and that's why I'm totally stoked for the Nintendo DS system. Bring on the dual-screen, touchscreen gaming.
This guy nailed it. The other 4 though... smh.
The biggest flaw with the PSP was that it didn't really offer a lot of stuff that was PS2 level anyway. Sony can never dedicate their A-teams to their handhelds. They were always B level spin-offs. That's why a Sony handheld/accessory spin-off will never take off. PSP did a better job than the Vita with this though,
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It's insane how terribly Sony handled their handhelds.
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We can see how Nintendo struggles to even support two platforms at a time with the Wii U and now the Switch. Can you imagine if they actually had five at one point?
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I'm convinced that the Vita will go down as Sony's biggest failure of all time, as historically significant as Nintendo cancelling the Nintendo Playstation or losing Squaresoft. They had a chance to build off of the PSP's success and maybe eventually become the #1 handheld company but they blew it. It was like getting an RPG boss down to 2 HP and then waiting for it to do a full restore instead of going in for the kill.
Do unto others what your parents did to you.
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Alucard188 posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
Oh, crap. I thought he said 1989.
<_<
Nintendo was founded way back then, though.
I know. They were a card company, then they produced medical equipment.
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kirbymuncher posted...
Darmik posted...
even if you were to pit them against each other, Vita is still destined to sell better.
lol
as much as I love my vita, lol
Seriously. Those predictions of Vita being a Nintendo-killer make me lol so hard.
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(Topic Creator)16 minutes ago#42
64 bit? As if we'd fall for those false promises Nintendo!
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(Topic Creator)14 minutes ago#43
God damn Nintendo and their artificial shortages!
Quick now: What does the Nintendo Entertainment System have in common with Judge Crater, Amelia Earhart and Jimmy Hoffa? Answer: They all mysteriously disappeared at the height of their fame, and no one can find them to this day.
If you haven`t heard of the Nintendo Entertainment System, odds are you`ve either just awakened from a two-year sleep or you don`t have a child under the age of 14. Nintendo is simply the Toy of the late `80s, a marketing phenomenon every bit as remarkable as the Cabbage Patch Kid craze of a few years back.
The Nintendo Entertainment System is what computer nerds call a dedicated game machine. That is, it`s a computer that does one thing only: It plays games. And does it ever play games. It offers superior graphics, great sound and an array of clever and whimsical game cartridges that delight children and adults of both sexes. At a cost of $100 to $150 for the control system (and $40 to $50 per cartridge), the Nintendo Entertainment System is one of the great entertainment buys of all time.
The trouble is finding it. Nintendo was the best-selling toy of 1988, and it was relatively easy to get from local stores until around last Thanksgiving. Then when the Christmas rush hit, Nintendo mania began in earnest. Since December it has become virtually impossible to find either the control deck or game cartridges.
I recently visited or talked to employees of almost 20 toy stores in Chicago and the suburbs. The stores ranged from large discount houses like Venture in Elgin to small, privately run establishments like Klipper`s in Glenview. I asked each store if they had any games systems in, or if they carried two of the most popular cartridges, Super Mario Bros. II and Zelda II: The Adventures of Link.
The results of my survey: Out of all the stores, there was exactly one Nintendo Entertainment System on the shelves, and this happened to be one that another customer had just returned for a refund. Not a single store carried either of the cartridges.
That`s not to say you can`t find them anywhere. Some stores are receiving shipments, but they sell out almost as fast as they get them. Toys ``R`` Us in Schaumburg, for instance, received 100 system units two weeks ago, but a store employee expected they would be sold out in three days.
I began each call by asking, ``Do you have any Nintendos in?`` and I became intrigued by how the employees would react. Some simply laughed derisively and said, ``Are you kidding?`` Others sounded bored, as if they had heard the questions a thousand times before. Others were exasperated and testy. Most, I could tell, were quite disgusted with the whole subject and would prefer never to hear the word Nintendo again.
No such luck. Pity poor game store workers these days: An amazing amount of their time each day is spent explaining that there are no Nintendos available, but they hope to have a shipment soon, so please try later, thank you very much. Almost every worker I talked to had his or her own little Nintendo horror story to share.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-03-31/entertainment/8903310356_1_game-cartridges-nintendo-mania-zelda-ii
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Maybe nintendo will lose some profit in our lifetimes maybe
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's insane how terribly Sony handled their handhelds.
I dunno...Vita's still doing pretty well.
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