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I thought I would be leveling up the characters or modifying their skills but there's not much to do.
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Nope. None of that play more gain unfair advantage crap. Day one, you have access to every crucial aspect that someone with hundreds of hours has. You just won't look as pretty with their unlocked outfits.
The objective is to git gud. I do not say that with the malicious, foul intent that often accompanies that term. Honing your skill and finding what works for you and the composition is literally all you can do.
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The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics?
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The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? For fun. |
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Rieze_Maxia posted...
snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? Yes it is fun but with no character development or progression then I won't be playing this game very long
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snakes_righteye posted...
Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? Should have done your research. |
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There's tons of lore, it's just not as visible in game. There are animations, comics, and more that fill in the story.
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snakes_righteye posted...
Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? If you enjoy something then that's all the motivation you need to keep playing it. Similarly, if you stop having fun then stop playing. The longevity of the game is that people haven't stopped having fun and therefore haven't stopped playing.
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Gameplayingperson posted...
Nope. None of that play more gain unfair advantage crap. Day one, you have access to every crucial aspect that someone with hundreds of hours has. You just won't look as pretty with their unlocked outfits.
Go beyond: Plus Ultra!
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krazykiwikid posted...
Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. No. This is the first fps I've played in a very long time. I like the game, I just thought I'd have control over character development and skill progression. I thought I would be unlocking more characters and abilities.
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Definitely the community is the best part.
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snakes_righteye posted...
krazykiwikid posted...Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. So you're looking for fake "progression" to feel good about yourself. You should look up Call of Duty.
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krazykiwikid posted...
snakes_righteye posted...krazykiwikid posted...Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. No I wanted to build a character. I wanted to modify the skills and make them more personalized. I wanted options when it came to character abilities.
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snakes_righteye posted...
Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? The character development is how you improve as a player and come to accept people with differing opinions, compromising and taking the objective. Only then you will fight the final boss that is Jeff
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snakes_righteye posted...
krazykiwikid posted...snakes_righteye posted...krazykiwikid posted...Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. So you did no research on the game and now came here to b**** because it's not a crappy RPG?
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Character development is a ploy that is a thing in games not RPGs to trick players into feeling unique when in truth they are still limited to what the game offers and therein not actually unique as there is a very finite limit of possibilities and unless you go total abstract your falling into a category of player type
Overwatch has no character development but rather has preset abilities and weapons to each character which allows the player to advance in skill far faster then a game with gated skills and gear You play OW not for the flashing lights and feelgood sounds but to play a game where (albeit at times horribly done with how Blizzard coddles the player) you work together and strive to improve
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snakes_righteye posted...
I thought I would be leveling up the characters or modifying their skills but there's not much to do. Getting better. No really, getting better and watching yourself improve into a better team player over time is gonna hook you.
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Collecting stuff and getting better and better (ladders), which is blizzard's forte.
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snakes_righteye posted...
Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? For fun. Main reason people games in the 80s and 90s |
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The fun usual ends when you realize its an unbalanced mess least it did for me.
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snakes_righteye posted...
krazykiwikid posted...Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. Play a few more months and you can unlock Doomfist most likely :D
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You bought the game without researching it first?
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Honestly it falls on you to do research into a game you're getting.
If you wanted customization and leveling up characters then you should have done research to know that this game isn't for you. Hell you could have come to this board and asked "What's Overwatch about? Does it have character customization? Am I leveling the characters and gaining new weapons and abilities for them?" It would have taken no time to do either and find out the answers and make a decision based on what those answers were. Why people can't do a quick google search for things anymore is beyond me.
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Looks like you failed a spot check TC.
Research more next time.
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TC, I honestly felt exactly the same day the first few days I got the game. I'm a big fan of unlocking stuff and level progression because it incentivizes me to keep playing.
But here I am still playing this game a year later. Honestly, the gameplay is that good. The incentive to keep playing is watching yourself improve and learning all the different types of characters that each have such unique movesets. Also really helps if you have friends that play. I've kind of made it my mission to unlock all the skins too so that's my sense of unlockables.
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Rieze_Maxia posted...
snakes_righteye posted...Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? This, should've looked into it a little. But really, I bought it months ago. Played it. So stopped. Picked it back up, so I think it's good for the "never forget how to ride a bicycle" affect. Loot boxes are oddly addictive to keep getting to. But not necessary so I don't feel cheated of I don't get what I want or that I have to pay to win.
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krazykiwikid posted...
Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason. i, for one, LOVE to be a higher level then level 1 noobs to smash them with my powerful guns and perks while they have nothing.........
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What you see is what you get, TC. No in game progression, that is reserved solely for your own skills. Takes a while to master each character and learn how to be a good team member, and that's what is fun to me. Plus, every battle feels different to me and that freshness keeps me hooked.
I admit it isn't for everyone, though. Even though I love the game as is, it is a shame that character development and such is reserved for outside sources. Would be cool if they had a system in place where if you win x amount of battles with a character, then a piece of their back-story or something is revealed.
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Definitely the community is the best part. I think this gem was overlooked. |
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Gameplay's fun.
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It's a multiplayer game like League of Legends or CS: GO. The Fun is in the gameplay not exactly leveling up, or character progression.
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As others said, it's the gameplay. It's actually rather nice to not be thinking "so to get X, I need to do these things that I don't particularly enjoy", you just go in and play for the satisfaction of winning.
Plus if you have people to group with, that's a big help too, but it's still good fun solo too.
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neji721 posted...
snakes_righteye posted...Rieze_Maxia posted...snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics?
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If you want storyline with customization check out BattleBorn. If you want competition with customization check out Paladins. They both have a similar look/feel to them._. But none of them will even come close to the active playerbase of OverWatch. The long term goal here is to # 1 Have Fun , # 2 Get Good. Can you make it into the top 500 with your skill/playstyle?!?
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Fivewinds posted...
If you want storyline with customization check out BattleBorn. If you want competition with customization check out Paladins. They both have a similar look/feel to them._. But none of them will even come close to the active playerbase of OverWatch. The long term goal here is to # 1 Have Fun , # 2 Get Good. Can you make it into the top 500 with your skill/playstyle?!? I beat my deadshot record with Mcree last night in QP... my record of one kill is now 2 with one ult. I'd say I'm a top 50 Mcree now, easily. I suck so bad with his ult.
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Fivewinds posted...If you want storyline with customization check out BattleBorn. If you want competition with customization check out Paladins. They both have a similar look/feel to them._. But none of them will even come close to the active playerbase of OverWatch. The long term goal here is to # 1 Have Fun , # 2 Get Good. Can you make it into the top 500 with your skill/playstyle?!? Don't feel bad his ult is one of the worst in the game anyway
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It depends what you really want. Personally I thought the game was fun at first but since I couldn't care less about the competitive aspect of the game and I eventually got tired of the repetition, I stopped playing regularly. I show up once in a while to play a match or two and that's about it. Lucio Ball on the other hand had me hooked until that huge mistake Blizzard left in which they, predictably didn't fix even after a good while and that's when I finally stopped playing regularly.
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For me the game is both insanely fun and addictive. Progression is entirely in my improvement on heroes, and there's always more to learn about heroes. And always new things to discover with them.
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It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing...
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Thats why there was a public beta. More than enough for someone to decide its worth or not.
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I'll be honest. Idk if I would call this game fun. Rather than a horrible addiction. There's always going to be that. "Just one more game"
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JamaicaMistake posted...
It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing... Wait wait wait Overwatch barely updates its game? How many times has Blizzard done balance passes since launch? (Bonus points for beta passes) How many FREE events has Blizzard done? How many FREE maps and characters have they added?
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snakes_righteye posted...
The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? Just endless repetition of pvp. Endless. If you're into looping and repetition for fun, this game works. If you look for something else, different aspects or progression, this isn't it. There's nothing else but "the one thing" in this game. Overwatch is just the same game over and over and over again. People LOVE the simplicity of it and the fun they get out of the same thing which is why the game is very popular.
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Stefan1277 posted...
snakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics? That's like saying Football, or Basketball, or Baseball, ect... Are the same game over and over and over again. There are the same rules in the same place, But they are NEVER the same game.
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At first it sucks but then it gets addicting but it's waning now for me
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This game has the same appeal you would find in other classic arena shooters.
Quake, Halo, and Counterstrike come to mind, but Overwatch particularly has the most similarities to Team Fortress as a class-based shooter with very succinct roles for each character to play. Essentially, this isn't really a game you are meant to progress or level up in any non-competitive manner (though the purely cosmetic XP leveling system is there for those that want it, as are loot boxes for collecting Hero cosmetics). It's for competing in a team setting (whether it be casual/friendly or serious) and honing your skills.
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JamaicaMistake posted...It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing...
Lol.
If you actually think MW2 remaster has a chance of hurting Overwatch's success....lol.
COD4, what was often heralded as the greatest FPS of all time was remastered this year, and did nothing to Overwatch. The consensus on COD4 was 10x as consistent and praise-worthy as the consensus on MW2. MW2 was a mixed bag riding off the reputation of COD4.
One Man Army, Danger Close, Akimbo 1887s, Spas-12, Infiinite Care Package, Care Package Knifing, Javelin Glitch, etc. Too many things ruined that game forever for some people. Most of its initial playerbase won't even give it a second chance. More people whined about how bad MW2 was than f***ing Infinite Warfare.
Half the MW2 playerbase hated the game and thought it was the worst game ever. The other half loved it. COD4 was more like 90/10 for love/hate."Being third and fourth best selling game this year does not make it a financially successful game." - jason19192(edited 21 hours ago)I got bored after a day. Modern warfare 2 really burned my fps senses in my head lol.PSN: giangdang00
Favorite games: Tales of symphonia and Soul CaliburNordini posted...If you actually think MW2 remaster has a chance of hurting Overwatch's success....lol.
Problem? Overwatch barely patches and updates their game. I'm pretty sure one of the most popular and beloved games ever will take over a stale game anyday.COD4, what was often heralded as the greatest FPS of all time was remastered this year, and did nothing to Overwatch. The consensus on COD4 was 10x as consistent and praise-worthy as the consensus on MW2. MW2 was a mixed bag riding off the reputation of COD4
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That's strange since for the longest time before infinte warfare came out. The petition for a COD remaster signed by hundreds of thousands of people was for MW2. Not Cod 4.One Man Army, Danger Close, Akimbo 1887s, Spas-12, Infiinite Care Package, Care Package Knifing, Javelin Glitch, etc. Too many things ruined that game forever for some people. Most of its initial playerbase won't even give it a second chance. More people whined about how bad MW2 was than f***ing Infinite Warfare.
Oh yes. That's why it was so fun. Everything was strong. Sniping was strong, grenade launching was strong, rushing was strong, camping was strong. Great game I know. A true classic like Halo 3.RIP the GOAT. (2001-2007) http://i.imgur.com/Aemgqnt.pngsnakes_righteye posted...The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics?
Did you not google around what this game was about, has and did not have??The test of tolerance comes when we are in a majority, The test of courage comes when we are in a minority.
PSN: Curapica-SanJamaicaMistake posted...Nordini posted...
If you actually think MW2 remaster has a chance of hurting Overwatch's success....lol.
Problem? Overwatch barely patches and updates their game. I'm pretty sure one of the most popular and beloved games ever will take over a stale game anyday.COD4, what was often heralded as the greatest FPS of all time was remastered this year, and did nothing to Overwatch. The consensus on COD4 was 10x as consistent and praise-worthy as the consensus on MW2. MW2 was a mixed bag riding off the reputation of COD4
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That's strange since for the longest time before infinte warfare came out. The petition for a COD remaster signed by hundreds of thousands of people was for MW2. Not Cod 4.One Man Army, Danger Close, Akimbo 1887s, Spas-12, Infiinite Care Package, Care Package Knifing, Javelin Glitch, etc. Too many things ruined that game forever for some people. Most of its initial playerbase won't even give it a second chance. More people whined about how bad MW2 was than f***ing Infinite Warfare.
Oh yes. That's why it was so fun. Everything was strong. Sniping was strong, grenade launching was strong, rushing was strong, camping was strong. Great game I know. A true classic like Halo 3.
You sound like a completely deluded fanboy. Why was the hype for MW2 so strong? Because of COD4. COD4 is literally the game that started the mulitplayer FPS phenomenon that has lasted for the last decade. It changed the game.
MW2 was just the sequel that pissed off half the fans. And this is coming from someone who loved MW2. Truly, I loved the game, even more than COD4. I'd rank Black Ops 2> MW2 > COD4 > Overwatch everything else as far as FPS shooters go.
But i acknowledge the reality that half the playerbase hated MW2. it won't do anything to Overwatch. And the "Overwatch barely patches the gameplay" post is a straight lie. Overwatch is"Being third and fourth best selling game this year does not make it a financially successful game." - jason19192Halo 2 is the game that started the FPS phenomenon. CoD4 certainly contributed in furthering it, but Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map.
On that note, I thought MW2 was generally a very beloved entry into the series? At least from what I recall, but I've never really been a CoD guy.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.PSN: Doctor-Pip-now your problem was not doing any research before buying a year old game. yes there isn't much to do but get some friends, go into any arcade game mode (even custom ones) and just bulls*** around and don't take it seriously unless playing compFC: 1006-3173-7602Slowly unlocking cosmetics, the fantastic gameplay, striving for improvement, free new characters and maps being released every now and then. Events.
That's just me though.Wonder-Red 4 Smash!Nordini posted...
You sound like a completely deluded fanboy. Why was the hype for MW2 so strong? Because of COD4. COD4 is literally the game that started the mulitplayer FPS phenomenon that has lasted for the last decade. It changed the game.
MW2 was just the sequel that pissed off half the fans. And this is coming from someone who loved MW2. Truly, I loved the game, even more than COD4. I'd rank Black Ops 2> MW2 > COD4 > Overwatch everything else as far as FPS shooters go.
But i acknowledge the reality that half the playerbase hated MW2. it won't do anything to Overwatch. And the "Overwatch barely patches the gameplay" post is a straight lie. Overwatch is
Where are you getting this information from that there are droves of people that hate MW2?
SterlingFox posted...
Who said kill? You really don't think a combination of Battlefront 2 and the new Cod which is going back to it's roots will draw people away from Overwatch? Especially if Blizzard keeps up this pace of releasing a new hero/map every 4 months pace.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.RIP the GOAT. (2001-2007) http://i.imgur.com/Aemgqnt.pngStefan1277 posted...snakes_righteye posted...
The gameplay is fun agreed. But there's no progression at all and no story so I'm just doing matches over and over and over for what? Cosmetics?
Just endless repetition of pvp. Endless.
If you're into looping and repetition for fun, this game works. If you look for something else, different aspects or progression, this isn't it. There's nothing else but "the one thing" in this game.
Overwatch is just the same game over and over and over again. People LOVE the simplicity of it and the fun they get out of the same thing which is why the game is very popular.
Hahaha! Everyone check out the guy that has OBVIOUSLY never played OW trying to chime in and instigate stupid crap. Yeah we fell for that one, champ.If you wish to make a topic about Xbox One then do so. What happens with the PlayStation has nothing to do with Xbox - Gamefaqs moderatorJamaicaMistake posted...SterlingFox posted...
Who said kill? You really don't think a combination of Battlefront 2 and the new Cod which is going back to it's roots will draw people away from Overwatch? Especially if Blizzard keeps up this pace of releasing a new hero/map every 4 months pace.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
You did.
You specifically linked to a GIF of Vince Carter saying "Its over" after a slam dunk competition in reference to what will happen to Overwatch. Let's not play dumb.PSN: Doctor-Pip-SterlingFox posted...JamaicaMistake posted...
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Who said kill? You really don't think a combination of Battlefront 2 and the new Cod which is going back to it's roots will draw people away from Overwatch? Especially if Blizzard keeps up this pace of releasing a new hero/map every 4 months pace.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
You did.
You specifically linked to a GIF of Vince Carter saying "Its over" after a slam dunk competition in reference to what will happen to Overwatch. Let's not play dumb.
lol hes stupid there has been a tons of new games even AAA like cod and battlefield 1 titanfall 2 and much more since overwatch's release and that didnt kill the gaming community and the game has still managed to sell over 30million and win GOTYJamaicaMistake posted...Nordini posted...
You sound like a completely deluded fanboy. Why was the hype for MW2 so strong? Because of COD4. COD4 is literally the game that started the mulitplayer FPS phenomenon that has lasted for the last decade. It changed the game.
MW2 was just the sequel that pissed off half the fans. And this is coming from someone who loved MW2. Truly, I loved the game, even more than COD4. I'd rank Black Ops 2> MW2 > COD4 > Overwatch everything else as far as FPS shooters go.
But i acknowledge the reality that half the playerbase hated MW2. it won't do anything to Overwatch. And the "Overwatch barely patches the gameplay" post is a straight lie. Overwatch is
Where are you getting this information from that there are droves of people that hate MW2?
SterlingFox posted...
Who said kill? You really don't think a combination of Battlefront 2 and the new Cod which is going back to it's roots will draw people away from Overwatch? Especially if Blizzard keeps up this pace of releasing a new hero/map every 4 months pace.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
Where am I getting this from? Are you serious???? Did you talk to anybody outside your circle of friends when MW2 came out? Is this some sort of joke?
Look through the GameFAQs board for MW2. Half the topics are people complaining about how the game s*** the bed compared to COD4. They're all complaining about the OMA/DC/Noobtube broken system, the various glitches that took forever to patch, the overall OP sets of weapons like the AA-12+ExtendedMags, the Akimbo Rafikas, etc.
Ask any random group of gamers on Twitch what their thoughts are on MW2. You'll find it's half "I love it, best COD ever" and half "I hate it, ruined the franchise"
Whereas if you had asked the community before MWR what they thought of COD4, the legendary game, 90%+ would've said it was the equivalent of Jesus Christ in FPS gaming and that a remake would destroy every other FPS game forever.
COD4 was the most universally liked and praised COD. Period. Nobody hated COD4. COD4 was the game that made online multiplayer for consoles such a big deal. COD4 is the game that made MW2 so hype. COD4 was a true legend among the video game world the same way Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII are in their respective genres.
Game was remastered. People quickly realized how much of it was nostalgia. People realized that the newer games had actually improved on the formula. People forgot about it. That's exactly how MW2 Remastered will go, regardless of how well I want it to do.
And I mean I want it to do well. I am 10th prestige level 70 in MW2. you can add me on Xbox live anytime to confirm that. I f***ing loved the game.
As for battlefront 2, LOL.. Star wars battlefront 1 was horrible. It did nothing to other games. Look at the sales.
http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2016/Global/
Black Ops 3 literally doubled the sales even on PS4 of Battlefront, and Black Ops 3 was less well received than MW2 or COD4."Being third and fourth best selling game this year does not make it a financially successful game." - jason19192SterlingFox posted...Halo 2 is the game that started the FPS phenomenon. CoD4 certainly contributed in furthering it, but Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map.
On that note, I thought MW2 was generally a very beloved entry into the series? At least from what I recall, but I've never really been a CoD guy.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
No I thought Golden Eye put console shooters on the map, not lolHalo2#1 CactusNordini posted
COD4was the most universally liked and praised COD. Period.Nobody hated COD4. COD4 was the game that made online multiplayer for consoles such a big deal. COD4 is the game that made MW2 so hype. COD4 was a true legend among the video game world the same way Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy VII are in their respective genres
Yeah can I get a citation? While OoT was a great game that was highly loved, FFVII simply made JRPGs more popular in the west, not be a legend in the grene. I respect what FFVII DID to JRPGs, but legend?
Chrono Trigger was a f***ing legendary game that even today holds up.
Also COD4 putting netplay on the map? I'm pretty sure Dreamcast had a bigger hand in that one....#1 Cactus(edited 16 hours ago)EX_Bortthog posted...SterlingFox posted...
Halo 2 is the game that started the FPS phenomenon. CoD4 certainly contributed in furthering it, but Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map.
On that note, I thought MW2 was generally a very beloved entry into the series? At least from what I recall, but I've never really been a CoD guy.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
No I thought Golden Eye put console shooters on the map, not lolHalo2
Ya it was golden eye. Halo can probably be contributed to putting online multiplayer console fps on the mapEX_Bortthog posted...SterlingFox posted...
Halo 2 is the game that started the FPS phenomenon. CoD4 certainly contributed in furthering it, but Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map.
On that note, I thought MW2 was generally a very beloved entry into the series? At least from what I recall, but I've never really been a CoD guy.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
No I thought Golden Eye put console shooters on the map, not lolHalo2
The first Halo game did. Largely because prior to Halo, FPS controls were pretty bad on consoles. Golden Eye is a classic game in its own right, but it didn't have a significant impact on the popularity of FPS or improve their play-ability on consoles. Its an outlier as opposed to a trendsetter. Case in point; there are only a handful of first person shooters in that era of gaming.
Whereas Halo: CE introduced significantly improved controls, making the FPS genre more accessible in general. Thus first person shooters became wildly popular. There's a s*** ton of FPS that started during the Xbox and PS2 era following Halo's success. Which is why the term "Halo killer" was thrown around quite a bit for years.
Then Halo 2 is what popularized competitive online gaming on consoles, and consequently popularized online multiplayer shooters. People went nuts over Xbox Live and online gaming in no small part thanks to Halo 2, which remained the most popular online shooter up until Gears of War released on the 360.PSN: Doctor-Pip-SterlingFox posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
Halo 2 is the game that started the FPS phenomenon. CoD4 certainly contributed in furthering it, but Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map.
On that note, I thought MW2 was generally a very beloved entry into the series? At least from what I recall, but I've never really been a CoD guy.
Not that it'll crush Overwatch either way. What an idiotic thing to say.
It'll "kill" Overwatch in the same way it "killed" Halo. I.E. not at all. Suggesting otherwise just shows a massive misunderstanding of the market, and just how successful Overwatch is.
No I thought Golden Eye put console shooters on the map, not lolHalo2
The first Halo game did. Largely because prior to Halo, FPS controls were pretty bad on consoles. Golden Eye is a classic game in its own right, but it didn't have a significant impact on the popularity of FPS or improve their play-ability on consoles. Its an outlier as opposed to a trendsetter. Case in point; there are only a handful of first person shooters in that era of gaming.
Whereas Halo: CE introduced significantly improved controls, making the FPS genre more accessible in general. Thus first person shooters became wildly popular. There's a s*** ton of FPS that started during the Xbox and PS2 era following Halo's success. Which is why the term "Halo killer" was thrown around quite a bit for years.
Then Halo 2 is what popularized competitive online gaming on consoles, and consequently popularized online multiplayer shooters. People went nuts over Xbox Live and online gaming in no small part thanks to Halo 2, which remained the most popular online shooter up until Gears of War released on the 360.
This guy gets it. Literally everything you said was factual.GT: zPINBALLWIZARDzI thought the same thing until I started to play competitively. ( I suck lol) but it's very fun once you get into it.But its an artistic, soulful, and minimalist butthole. Much like my own in that regardIvyprofen posted...I'll be honest. Idk if I would call this game fun. Rather than a horrible addiction. There's always going to be that. "Just one more game"
ThisBut its an artistic, soulful, and minimalist butthole. Much like my own in that regardStraight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was#1 CactusJamaicaMistake posted...It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing...
Wow, your name is right, 'cause you just made a mistake.AKA Tykronos/Ryltex,The Glass Wraith of Gamefaqs.
S.S SatoSere/Amour, Canon armored airship, now online. Funny how one detail can change many things.EX_Bortthog posted...Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?PSN: Doctor-Pip-(edited 15 hours ago)I agree with the TC to a certain extent. At least I would've given perks to heroes. It's not so much about having stuff to do, it's about customizing your hero taking into account what you do well. For instance, I like playing Torb, you could have a perk that slightly enhanced the HP/damage of your turrets and another perk that gave your packs slightly more armor, so that you could decide which one fits your gamestyle better.
The whole "people would find out which perks are optimal and exclude the rest" reasoning is poor, because going by that we'd have 1 hero for each category, and we clearly don't.
Diversity is a must imo. But it's true the more diversity the harder the game becomes to balance, and then you have a legion of whiners threatening to leave the game because reasons.you play the game to get that sweet sweet SRBNET = Mike#1931
Steam = mhagan1986Should have played one of the free weekends TC. I played for all of about 2 hours and realized that this game isn't for me. It's better if you have friends to play with I'm sure but none of my friends own the game. Try to find a team that is consistently playing the game.ASRock Z77 Extreme4;GeForce GTX 970 ; Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570CPU @ 3.40GHzPersonally I got bored pretty fast. Friends still play. They're nearing level 200 playing off and on. I think I dropped it in 40's.
Mileage varies by person.Reminds me of project cars. What's the fun if everything is already unlocked and has 0 customization? PassScience is the new rock and rollSterlingFox posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well#1 Cactus-Raising your rank with comp
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Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
You shut your mouth some of my best memories are on that controller! >:[GT: zPINBALLWIZARDzAnoKid09 posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
You shut your mouth some of my best memories are on that controller! >:[snakes_righteye posted...krazykiwikid posted...
Smells like a stupid CoD troll in here for some reason.
No. This is the first fps I've played in a very long time. I like the game, I just thought I'd have control over character development and skill progression. I thought I would be unlocking more characters and abilities.
kiwi's reply seems needlessly hostile to me, but a cursory amount of research would tell you that Overwatch doesn't have any kind of unlockable progression. And to many people that's the appeal. Veterans have no in-built mechanical advantage over new players such as better gear or classes or anything, merely player skill and map knowledge.
It doesn't give you that feeling of progressing through the game on a track, but that's not the kind of game it's meant to be. It's all about doing the best you can with that initial set of tools everyone has, and learning the nuances of interaction between the different characters and maps.
Also, one of my favorite things about the game is that all new content (meaning characters and maps, not necessarily cosmetic stuff) is free. You don't have to buy a horribly overpriced season pass like you do in most games *cough*Battlefront*cough*, because they will straight up give you those characters and maps. For those who hate the DLC business model, this is exactly the kind of game they should enjoy and support.
JamaicaMistake posted...It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing...
Honestly, I don't think so. The last Battlefront was a massive disappointment to a lot of people, and I think EA is going to have an uphill battle to prove that they're capable of doing it right the second time. From shipping with less than half the content of the old Battlefront games, to letting Fighter Squadron mode go months without patching the broken and nearly unhittable A-Wings or the exploit that let the Millennium Falcon insta-kill the Slave I, to their godawful attempts at balancing patches (i.e. nerf everything into complete uselessness), to charging $50 for a season pass without even telling people what was going to be in it, then having the first two DLC heroes simply be reskins of existing character models (Greedo and Nien Nunb, really?), the game lost a LOT of fans early on. They may have gotten on track later, but how many people walked away in the first few months and will never come back?
As for CoD, it's going to keep on being what it is - a franchise that many like and many hate. It's not going to impact Overwatch in the slightest.neo_strike3 posted...AnoKid09 posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
You shut your mouth some of my best memories are on that controller! >:[
Doesn't magically make the controller good or well designed#1 CactusJamaicaMistake posted...It's appeal is that it's the the most fun FPS out there right now. Though, once Star Wars Battlefront2/New cod come out, less people will give a s***. Especially since overwatch barely updates it's game. Oh and if the MW2 remaster is an actual thing...
Except a new cod has already come out in this lifespan even a modern warfare remake and overwatch still stands tallJust won the superbowl with the lions in year 3 franchise if i can do it why cant they not changing sig until they do 8/21/2010EX_Bortthog posted...SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
Technically Doom was the first to show that its possible to have a First Person Shooter on a console when it was ported to the SNES.
But that's not relevant to anything I said. I said that Halo is what "put console shooters on the map". I.E. Halo popularized console shooters. The link agrees with me. Do you disagree?PSN: Doctor-Pip-SterlingFox posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
Technically Doom was the first to show that its possible to have a First Person Shooter on a console when it was ported to the SNES.
But that's not relevant to anything I said. I said that Halo is what "put console shooters on the map". I.E. Halo popularized console shooters. The link agrees with me. Do you disagree?
Yes considering it wasn't the first big badass console shooter, nor was it something that wasn't done before. Golden Eye set the standards that Halo had to beat, and those standards were substantially high. To talk that a game like Golden Eye wasn't so widely acclaimed nor made console shooters a thing that can be done is ignorant
People tend to forget where these things actually start, but then again there is a reason Golden Eye is also considered such an amazing game to this day#1 CactusAnoKid09 posted...You shut your mouth some of my best memories are on that controller! >:[
I mean, it is a d**** after allWho the hell would think Halo was the father of console shooters? That joint is responsible for lan parties and 2 really set the standard for match making.
GoldenEye started the couch party shooter. Remember having to rotate between lives because you didn't have enough controllers? GoldenEye set the precedent.
Man, I gotta dust off my N64
Edit: also, GoldenEye had unlockables. A lot of them... @snakes_righteye(edited 6 hours ago)AnoKid09 posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
You shut your mouth some of my best memories are on that controller! >:[
Same here.AKA Tykronos/Ryltex,The Glass Wraith of Gamefaqs.
S.S SatoSere/Amour, Canon armored airship, now online. Funny how one detail can change many things.EX_Bortthog posted...SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
SterlingFox posted...
EX_Bortthog posted...
Straight from the FPS wiki
GoldenEye 007, released in 1997, was a landmark first-person shooter forhome consoles, while theHaloseries heightened the console's commercial and critical appeal as a platform for first-person shooter titles.
Golden Eye was the first massively successful one. Halo simply expanded upon Golden Eyes success
Same was Wolfenstien may have started the craze but Doom made FPS what it was
... That sentence clearly states that Halo is what established consoles as an appealing platform to play First Person Shooters on. Or one could say that "Halo deserves the credit for putting console shooters on the map."
So are we agreeing that I'm right?
No, its saying that Golden Eye was the first to show its not only possible, but f***ing possible with that atrocious N64 controller as well
Technically Doom was the first to show that its possible to have a First Person Shooter on a console when it was ported to the SNES.
But that's not relevant to anything I said. I said that Halo is what "put console shooters on the map". I.E. Halo popularized console shooters. The link agrees with me. Do you disagree?
Yes considering it wasn't the first big badass console shooter, nor was it something that wasn't done before. Golden Eye set the standards that Halo had to beat, and those standards were substantially high. To talk that a game like Golden Eye wasn't so widely acclaimed nor made console shooters a thing that can be done is ignorant
People tend to forget where these things actually start, but then again there is a reason Golden Eye is also considered such an amazing game to this day
I said that Halo is what popularized first person shooters on consoles, and more specifically that Halo 2 (not CoD4) is what started the online shooter phenomenon. I also said that Golden Eye is a classic.
I didn't say anything about how acclaimed it was. No one ever said anything about what started first person shooters on consoles. There is a significant difference between something starting, and something becoming popular. Even the wikipedia article you referenced agrees with me that, although Golden Eye was a "landmark game", Halo is what popularized first person shooters on consoles.
You've seriously spent all this time arguing against something that no one ever said, and making a point in relation to something no one was talking about. Here I thought that you were making a relevant argument and understood the conversation you were in, when in reality it turns out that you've done nothing but waste time by having no clue what anyone was talking about.PSN: Doctor-Pip-(edited 4 hours ago)Again no lol
Golden Eye is what set all into motion. Games have a process of evolution for genres, and in that is creation, refining, streamlining then homogenizing
Halo is the start of homogenizing because its the point where FPS games all strive to be it.#1 CactusEX_Bortthog posted...Again no lol
Golden Eye is what set all into motion. Games have a process of evolution for genres, and in that is creation, refining, streamlining then homogenizing
Halo is the start of homogenizing because its the point where FPS games all strive to be it.
First Person Shooters started to become popular with Halo: CE came out. It known for having revolutionized the genre with its controls, story telling, etc. That's a fact, and that's what we're talking about.
Or rather that's what the conversation was about before you entered the topic. Its not about where console shooters started, its about when they became popular. Which was with Halo. Your source agrees with me.PSN: Doctor-Pip-SterlingFox posted...EX_Bortthog posted...
Again no lol
Golden Eye is what set all into motion. Games have a process of evolution for genres, and in that is creation, refining, streamlining then homogenizing
Halo is the start of homogenizing because its the point where FPS games all strive to be it.
First Person Shooters started to become popular with Halo: CE came out. It known for having revolutionized the genre with its controls, story telling, etc. That's a fact, and that's what we're talking about.
Or rather that's what the conversation was about before you entered the topic. Its not about where console shooters started, its about when they became popular. Which was with Halo. Your source agrees with me.
you don't become a "landmark game" without being popular. .....
Also Halo quote "heightened" consoles appeal. Not create consoles appeal#1 Cactus(edited 2 hours ago)snowboarderkid6 posted...
Except a new cod has already come out in this lifespan even a modern warfare remake and overwatch still stands tall
Are you trolling? The last CoD had a 15:1 dislike ratio on the trailer and no one wanted it. You think a lot of people were feeling that $80 price tag? Probably not. This upcoming CoD is going back to it's roots and will likely put up at least black ops 3 numbers.
IAmNotThePope posted...
Honestly, I don't think so. The last Battlefront was a massive disappointment to a lot of people, and I think EA is going to have an uphill battle to prove that they're capable of doing it right the second time. From shipping with less than half the content of the old Battlefront games, to letting Fighter Squadron mode go months without patching the broken and nearly unhittable A-Wings or the exploit that let the Millennium Falcon insta-kill the Slave I, to their godawful attempts at balancing patches (i.e. nerf everything into complete uselessness), to charging $50 for a season pass without even telling people what was going to be in it, then having the first two DLC heroes simply be reskins of existing character models (Greedo and Nien Nunb, really?), the game lost a LOT of fans early on. They may have gotten on track later, but how many people walked away in the first few months and will never come back?
As for CoD, it's going to keep on being what it is - a franchise that many like and many hate. It's not going to impact Overwatch in the slightest.
Oh yes. There is no denying that EA's battlefront was s***. As someone who loved Battlefront 2 on the ps2, even i wouldn't defend it. But as you said they are going in a better direction now and aren't going to go down a path that milks the consumer dry. And I mean it's an EA game, it's gonna be highly promoted and marketed. But we'll see what happens. But man, this COD WW2 looks special. I wouldn't sleep on it.RIP the GOAT. (2001-2007) http://i.imgur.com/Aemgqnt.png
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