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Yeah so I'm watching Raw and they're going through the Health Slater Apollo Crews segment with Heath Giving relationship advice to Apollo. And it was all fun and games, but then Corey Graves who is usually spot on in his one liners, says "Why would you go to Health Slater for parenting advice, his children belong on Leashes!"
(record scratch) Uhhh . . . Yeah . . . and that happened. That was awkward. . . (awkward silence) yikes . . . So, yeah, WTF? Someone might wanna tell Mr. Graves that kids don't belong on leashes. There were so many things that he could have said right there like "Why would you go to Health Slater for parenting advice, he can barely support his kids" or something, but instead he says "his children belong on Leashes"?? Graves comment was incredibly cringeworthy and highly inappropriate, WWE is supposed to be family friendly TV. |
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Heath Slater should've been released/fired years ago, he is a career jobber who will never go anywhere or do anything worthy of mention, is his Dad a Legend or summat? And that's why they're keeping him around?
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Why can't everyone be nice? :( They should try to win matches fairly and then shake hands afterwards. And rather than insult each other, they should compliment each other with at least one nice thing, this would create an atmosphere of respect and sportsmanship.
That would make for a much better show!
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
Why can't everyone be nice? :( They should try to win matches fairly and then shake hands afterwards. And rather than insult each other, they should compliment each other with at least one nice thing, this would create an atmosphere of respect and sportsmanship. Are you suggesting that saying that children belong on leashes is socially acceptable, and just part of WWE storylines or something? What does saying that Health Slater's children belong on leashes have to do with sportsmanship or superstars insulting one another or shaking hands after a match? |
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RichAllen2017 posted...
Heath Slater should've been released/fired years ago, he is a career jobber who will never go anywhere or do anything worthy of mention, is his Dad a Legend or summat? And that's why they're keeping him around? What does Slater being a jobber have to do with Graves saying that his children belong on leashes? Surely nobody's kids deserve to be on a leash, whether their Parent is a jobber or not.
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Didn't even pick up on it. People worry about the stupidest things.
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DIstance77 posted...
Yeah so I'm watching Raw and they're going through the Health Slater Apollo Crews segment with Heath Giving relationship advice to Apollo. And it was all fun and games, but then Corey Graves who is usually spot on in his one liners, says "Why would you go to Health Slater for parenting advice, his children belong on Leashes!" "He should of said" you types of people are what's wrong with anything yea he said a lot of jokes that left people silent but arv hates when people say this is how you should address something. Maybe your kids need to be put on leashes
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Mr_Yooj posted...
Be a star What was your reaction when you heard that? Do you think Vince gave Graves a talking to after the show? |
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ArvTheGreat posted...
"He should of said" you types of people are what's wrong with anything yea he said a lot of jokes that left people silent but arv hates when people say this is how you should address something. Maybe your kids need to be put on leashes ??? My kids need to be put on leashes? WTF is wrong with you? How is saying that children belong on leashes funny? |
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DIstance77 posted...
ArvTheGreat posted..."He should of said" you types of people are what's wrong with anything yea he said a lot of jokes that left people silent but arv hates when people say this is how you should address something. Maybe your kids need to be put on leashes It was funny. It was a heel making fun of a scruffy comedy redneck jobber whose gimmick is having a bunch of hillbilly kids. Come off it mate. Some of the more "special" kids out there actually have special tethered clothing for parents to keep them from running off in stores, so uh, not sure why you're crying here. They actually have leashes for kids.
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>replying seriously to an obvious joke/troll topic
It's "Hahaha". Not "Bahaha" or "Bwahaha". You're not a pirate or a moustache twirling villain. You're a human. Laugh like one.
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Raven_Cyarm posted...
>replying seriously to an obvious joke/troll topic All of our kids needs to be leashed.
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Kids actually be on leashes IRL so...
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DIstance77 posted...
TrulyEpicLawls posted...Why can't everyone be nice? :( They should try to win matches fairly and then shake hands afterwards. And rather than insult each other, they should compliment each other with at least one nice thing, this would create an atmosphere of respect and sportsmanship. Why can't everyone be nice?!?!?!
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...Why can't everyone be nice? :( They should try to win matches fairly and then shake hands afterwards. And rather than insult each other, they should compliment each other with at least one nice thing, this would create an atmosphere of respect and sportsmanship. Why can't we be friends!?
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Mr_Yooj posted...
TrulyEpicLawls posted...DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...Why can't everyone be nice? :( They should try to win matches fairly and then shake hands afterwards. And rather than insult each other, they should compliment each other with at least one nice thing, this would create an atmosphere of respect and sportsmanship. 
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I hate Graves. Someone should give that cripple a legit beatdown.
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I don't get the issue. I go to the mall and see kids on leashes all the time.
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Surely this is trolling.
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Knowledge_King posted...
Kids actually be on leashes IRL so... This. Go to the airport or the mall or any place with a lot of foot traffic |
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Sounds like TC's parents put him on a leash...
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ThatGuy10 posted...
It was funny. It was a heel making fun of a scruffy comedy redneck jobber whose gimmick is having a bunch of hillbilly kids. First of all, it made no sense, because the segment was poking fun at Health's inadequacy as a parent, the gimmick that he has 7 kids, and Rhyno added "that he knows of" insinuating that Slater may have more than 7 kids. How do we go from Heath needing to wrestle to support all his kids to his kids belonging on a leash? Second of all, there's nothing to indicate that Heath's kayfabe kids are special needs children to where they would need to wear special tethered clothing to keep them from running off in stores. We're not talking about toddlers who are just starting to walk. Generally speaking, leashes are for dogs, not for human beings. I doubt any of you routinely see kids on leashes in stores on a daily basis. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's highly unusual, and generally I would think for very very young kids just starting to walk or like you said kids with special needs. I don't know anyone who has ever put their kid on a leash. You don't walk kids like you walk dogs with a leash to keep them from running off. You don't joke about someones kids on family friendly TV about how they belong on a leash. That's not funny. And for those who say "it's wrestling" and you can say crazy and outlandish things on a wrestling show, there's a difference between attacking a wrestler after a match as part of a storyline and saying stuff like that about somebody's kids. I highly doubt that line was part of the script. There was an awkward 15 seconds of silence after he said that, Cole and Booker must have just looked at each other like "WTF did he just say that". |
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And Booker T called Hogan the "N" word, so what?
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Vlugge_Japie posted...
I hate Graves. Someone should give that cripple a legit beatdown. You know, I actually like Graves. I think he's great on Raw and on 205 Live. He's funny, has some awesome one liners and really does a great job in calling the action. But again, just because I like him as a commentator doesn't mean I shouldn't call him out when he says something like that. |
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Some kids do belong on leases. And he made you triggered so he did his job.
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seriously though.... your worry about it too much. Belong on leashes is a phrase, not a literal expression. If you don't know what it means, it means they are all over the place, they can't sit still and they don't listen to their parents.
Also, kids in day care are put on leashes all the time, its so they don't wander off when in grocery stores, or out in the public. They don't seem to mind it, so neither should you. |
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I ain't a fan of putting kids on leads because I have always seen it as a sign of a lack of trust between the parent and a kid but still this is a really daft thing to get annoyed about.
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http://www.today.com/parents/child-leashes-are-they-helpful-or-humiliating-2D79453155
I mean obviously he was giving him good parenting advice.
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Assuming this is a serious question and not a fake/troll account, I'll bite...
Graves is a heel announcer, heel announcers say insulting/offensive things directed at the faces. I think Graves was trying to joke about how Slater has so many kids that he needs leashes to keep them all under control, not necessarily that any of them are special needs kids or anything like that. To add, if you found that offensive, you would've passed out listening to Bobby Heenan call a match. |
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bigblu89 posted...
Assuming this is a serious question and not a fake/troll account, I'll bite... I mean really, he complains about this but not Bobby Heenan calling a random kid in the audience of a show ugly?
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SeamusOHassey posted...
And Booker T called Hogan the "N" word, so what? OK look there's a difference between adults insulting adults. We as a society are very protective of children. It's politically incorrect and socially unacceptable to make jokes about child abuse. WWE is a family friendly "PG" show. Imagine yourself as a young kid watching that show, and hearing that comment. Graves put out an image of kids belonging on a leash during a wrestling show. You have Titus O'Neill taking Apollo Crews under his wing. In the segment that preceded the kids belonging on a leash comment, you have Apollo Crews talking to Heath and Rhyno, then Titus pulling Apollo aside and saying don't talk to "them", they are the "enemy". I mean I don't like this whole storyline. Titus won't let Apollo take advice from Heath Slater, the "hillbilly" parent who has 7 kayfabe kids "that he knows of" who Corey Graves thinks all should be on leashes?? This was a cluster**** of a comment following a cluster**** of a segment in a cluster**** of a storyline. |
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Kids definitely belong on leashes. I'm not seeing the problem.
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Dikitain posted...
bigblu89 posted...Assuming this is a serious question and not a fake/troll account, I'll bite... The things he said about Tito Santana alone would've made this guy outraged. |
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BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid. Its like the old adage plays more with the box than the toy that came with it. |
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MrSCARY posted...
Kids definitely belong on leashes. I'm not seeing the problem. Kids don't belong on leashes. Leashes are for dogs, not for human beings. I've seen some arguing that child "harnesses" are the same thing as leashes. Child harnesses strapped around a very young child's torso to keep them from running away in a store is different from a leash. A leash is for a dog and are wrapped around a dog's neck. Graves said that Heath's children belong on leashes, not harnesses. Meaning his kids are subhuman and need to be treated like dogs. Highly inappropriate, definitely not socially acceptable or family friendly television. And for those that compared this to Bobby Heenan calling a kid as a show ugly, that's different than saying somebody kids need to be on leashes. When and where did Heenan say that, by the way? Please provide a link to when he said that about a kid. It's important to note that we're living in a much more politically correct society now than when Heenan was a commentator. Heenan calling a women or possibly a kid ugly isn't as bad as saying someone's kids "belong on a leash". Kids do not belong on leashes. Leashes are for dogs, not kids. |
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DIstance77 posted...
It's important to note that we're living in a much more politically correct society In other words a society that finds any excuse possible to light someone up for an offhanded comment because their lives are so simplistic that they have nothing better to do but be offended by everything.
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It's graves, dude is a massive tryhard,
He wanted to sound cool, but came off as a douche.
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Dude, if you're looking to wrestling to find political correctness, you're going to be searching for a LONG time.
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Dikitain posted...
DIstance77 posted...It's important to note that we're living in a much more politically correct society I was sitting here enjoying some wrestling watching Monday Night Raw. I was watching the show, then it gets to this segment with Apollo Crews, Heath Slater, and Rhyno. That segment rubbed me the wrong way, and I can elaborate on it if you like, but then Graves made a statement that Heath's kids "belong on leashes". Again, I'm not lighting anyone up. I like Graves, I think he's like one of the best WWE has to offer. After he said that, I paused my DVR and I was like WTF. I rewinded it. He said it again. You're acting like it was a perfectly acceptable comment. It wasn't. I also don't see how it's funny to joke about kids belonging on a leash. That's not family friendly television. It's not funny, and I also don't like how Rhyno was joking about how Heath has 7 kids "that he knows of". Why is WWE making jokes about Heath being a deadbeat father? About him fathering kids that he doesn't support, etc. This is not a socially acceptable storyline.
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bigjclassic posted...
It's graves, dude is a massive tryhard, It came out wrong, really wrong. He came off as a douche trying to be funny. That's my point. He stepped over the line trying to be funny. And once again, I like Graves. I'm not saying he should be fired or anything, but I am saying that he said something that was completely and utterly inappropriate. Graves may have said 99 one liners that came out funny and made us laugh, but this one time he said something that came off wrong, awkward, and just plain offensive. |
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid. I seriously hope your trolling. Kids like to be free. Not on a leash. Some of the comments in this thread are really disturbing. |
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Ivany2008 posted...
Belong on leashes is a phrase, not a literal expression. If you don't know what it means, it means they are all over the place, they can't sit still and they don't listen to their parents. And also that the parent is unable to keep up with them, which would make sense if Slater's character is having loads of kids. |
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MrSCARY posted...
Kids definitely belong on leashes. I'm not seeing the problem. So let me get this straight, in your mind kids should be treated like dogs, is that correct? In schools should kids be tied to their desks with leashes tied around their necks strapped to their desks? |
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DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...
BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
I seriously hope your trolling. Kids like to be free. Not on a leash. Some of the comments in this thread are really disturbing.
Nah kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingDIstance77 posted...This is not a socially acceptable storyline.
Pro wrestling is a fictional show about grown men and women getting paid to physically hurt each other.
Are there any socially acceptable storylines?DIstance77 posted...socially acceptable
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Pick one.I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports.bigblu89 posted...DIstance77 posted...
This is not a socially acceptable storyline.
Pro wrestling is a fictional show about grown men and women getting paid to physically hurt each other.
Are there any socially acceptable storylines?
What's wrestling and normal storylines have to do with kids being on leashes, Heath being a kayfabe deadbeat dad who has 7 kids "that he knows of", and Titus O'Neill telling Apollo Crews not to talk to Heath Slater and Rhyno because they are the enemy!? The enemy?
When has anything like this occurred on WWE television? This is highly inappropriate. I'm perfectly fine with Sheamus and Cesaro attacking the Hardy Boyz after losing a match and heeling it up. I'm perfectly fine with Alexa Bliss acting like a heel ***** to get heat.
That's normal wrestling stuff. I don't turn into WWE to hear about kids belonging on leashes and Heath Slater being a deadbeat father who has 7 kids "that he knows of". Stop trying to act like segment and Graves comment is normal WWE programming, normal wrestling storylines. It's not.TrulyEpicLawls posted...DIstance77 posted...
TrulyEpicLawls posted...
BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
I seriously hope your trolling. Kids like to be free. Not on a leash. Some of the comments in this thread are really disturbing.
Nah kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
This guy thinks kids love being on leashes. OK, please back up this claim with evidence. Show me one child who says that he likes to be on a leash. Another question, when you were a kid, were you put on a leash? Did you like to be on a leash when you were a kid?But people trying to murder each other is acceptable, but not an offhand comment about Heath having too many kids that he can't keep up with or that run off all the time. Again, it's not an uncommon phrase and the people that take it to heart need to grow thicker skin.
And not knowing about other kids is not being a deadbeat father. It's not knowing you have other kids. And I hear this joke come up all the time when guys are just being guys.DIstance77 posted...bigblu89 posted...
DIstance77 posted...
This is not a socially acceptable storyline.
Pro wrestling is a fictional show about grown men and women getting paid to physically hurt each other.
Are there any socially acceptable storylines?
What's wrestling and normal storylines have to do with kids being on leashes, Heath being a kayfabe deadbeat dad who has 7 kids "that he knows of", and Titus O'Neill telling Apollo Crews not to talk to Heath Slater and Rhyno because they are the enemy!? The enemy?
When has anything like this occurred on WWE television? This is highly inappropriate. I'm perfectly fine with Sheamus and Cesaro attacking the Hardy Boyz after losing a match and heeling it up. I'm perfectly fine with Alexa Bliss acting like a heel ***** to get heat.
That's normal wrestling stuff. I don't turn into WWE to hear about kids belonging on leashes and Heath Slater being a deadbeat father who has 7 kids "that he knows of". Stop trying to act like segment and Graves comment is normal WWE programming, normal wrestling storylines. It's not.
I'm guessing you didn't watch during the Attitude Era then.DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...
DIstance77 posted...
TrulyEpicLawls posted...
BTW kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
I seriously hope your trolling. Kids like to be free. Not on a leash. Some of the comments in this thread are really disturbing.
Nah kids love being on leashes. They like to pretend they're some dog/dinosaur hybrid.
This guy thinks kids love being on leashes. OK, please back up this claim with evidence. Show me one child who says that he likes to be on a leash. Another question, when you were a kid, were you put on a leash? Did you like to be on a leash when you were a kid?
Ok I'll show you *points at kid that loves being on leash*.
I don't think or recall being on a leash, so evidently if I was I didn't care, because it allowed me to be a crazed monster. I mean where am I gonna go anyway? At least I get to pull and roar and be a general chaotic dick with a leash haha.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingDarkDragon386 posted...But people trying to murder each other is acceptable, but not an offhand comment about Heath having too many kids that he can't keep up with or that run off all the time. Again, it's not an uncommon phrase and the people that take it to heart need to grow thicker skin.
And not knowing about other kids is not being a deadbeat father. It's not knowing you have other kids. And I hear this joke come up all the time when guys are just being guys.
I have a very thick skin, OK. I'm not offended by practically anything. And Graves comment didn't exactly offend me, more than it just came off as highly awkward and inappropriate. Like "WTF did he just say" sort of thing. I wanted to see what other people thought of this comment, as well as just the Heath & Apollo storyline they got going with Titus O'Neill.
Basically I just think this is a terrible storyline with all sorts of undertones that are not family friendly.
This isn't just guys being guys, this is Monday Night Raw, a supposedly PG show. I mean I was fine with the angle that Heath needs to wrestle to support his 7 kids. No problem with that. That was funny, even the angle a while back with him living in a trailer and being able to buy the double-wide. That was a little edgier, but still I was OK with all that.
But last night they took this to another level, and I didn't like how it came across. Sue me. It's not that I even want a PG WWE product. In a way I want the product to be even edgier than it is, but not in this way. Not with angles like this or comments like this.DIstance77 posted...bigjclassic posted...
It's graves, dude is a massive tryhard,
He wanted to sound cool, but came off as a douche.
It came out wrong, really wrong. He came off as a douche trying to be funny. That's my point. He stepped over the line trying to be funny. And once again, I like Graves. I'm not saying he should be fired or anything, but I am saying that he said something that was completely and utterly inappropriate. Graves may have said 99 one liners that came out funny and made us laugh, but this one time he said something that came off wrong, awkward, and just plain offensive.
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You're ranting on a forum.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingDIstance77 posted...even the angle a while back with him living in a trailer and being able to buy the double-wide. That was a little edgier,
Uhh.
So, let me get this straight.
Orton trying to attack Cena with pyros is fine, but buying a double-wide is a little edgy?Kids should be on leashes.I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band!
http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gifEffectAndCause posted...Kids should be on leashes and have muzzles IMO.
Wow, it's scary to see how many of you believe that kids should basically be enslaved, put on leashes, muzzles, I mean jesus christ what's kind of a world do you want to live in? Who in their right mind would argue that kids should be put on leashes, muzzles, etc. This isn't funny, like seriously WTF is wrong with you.I think you're a lone on an island on this one.
I've been watching wrestling for nearly 35 years now, and there's very little they can show or say now in this PG era that I'd find offensive.
Someone mentioned it before, but I think you missed the general point that "the kid belongs on a leash" is more of a saying than Graves thinking the kids deserve to be treated like dogs. To "put you kid on a leash" is just another way of saying that you can't control your kid.
I truly feel you're over-thinking this.If we're going to allow children, the least we can do is make sure they are properly leashed.bigjclassic posted...DIstance77 posted...
bigjclassic posted...
It's graves, dude is a massive tryhard,
He wanted to sound cool, but came off as a douche.
It came out wrong, really wrong. He came off as a douche trying to be funny. That's my point. He stepped over the line trying to be funny. And once again, I like Graves. I'm not saying he should be fired or anything, but I am saying that he said something that was completely and utterly inappropriate. Graves may have said 99 one liners that came out funny and made us laugh, but this one time he said something that came off wrong, awkward, and just plain offensive.
totally agreed, something like that should have never left his mouth. I think it's crazy that people think that kids need to be on leashes (like china) instead of promoting proper parenting
Thank you. Me and you seem to be the one sane ones in this thread. Literally everyone else is arguing that what he said was perfectly fine, and that kids should be put on leashes or worse. I mean this is seriously scary to think that the majority of posters in this thread actually think that kids should be essentially enslaved and treated like dogs. Absolutely terrifying.DIstance77 posted...I mean this is seriously scary to think that the majority of posters in this thread actually think that kids should be essentially enslaved and treated like dogs. Absolutely terrifying.
That would be scary if that actually happened.
But you know it didn't because you have "very thick skin" right?
It's not like you're gonna be all dramatic ranting on a video game forum or something.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingDIstance77 posted...
I have a very thick skin,
Rule of thumb. If someone says they have a very thick skin, they are easily offended.bigblu89 posted...I think you're a lone on an island on this one.
I've been watching wrestling for nearly 35 years now, and there's very little they can show or say now in this PG era that I'd find offensive.
Someone mentioned it before, but I think you missed the general point that "the kid belongs on a leash" is more of a saying than Graves thinking the kids deserve to be treated like dogs. To "put you kid on a leash" is just another way of saying that you can't control your kid.
I truly feel you're over-thinking this.
I'm not over-thinking anything. What Graves said was completely and utterly inappropriate.
I'm sorry but saying that somebody kids need to be put on a leash is not something that you just say.
Dogs are put on leashes, not HUMAN FREAKIN BEINGS. Saying that somebody kids "BELONG" on a leash is exactly like saying that they deserve to be treated like a dog. (Since we know that Dogs are put on a leash, around their neck)
Sorry but leashes DO NOT under ANY circumstances BELONG on children. . . PERIOD.leashed doesn't mean around the throat like a dog
they have kid leashes that strap on like a harness
it's an odd sight but that's a small price to pay for the benefit of not losing a childI'd rather kids be put on a leash than a dog, tbh.I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band!
http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gifDIstance77 posted...I'm sorry but saying that somebody kids need to be put on a leash is not something that you just say.
He was saying they're the kind of kid you'd see at Walmart where the parent has them.on a leash you idiotIf I let my dog go free, it might live, but a child would die. If anything, putting a dog on a leash is wrong, as it actually has a chance of survival on its own. Putting a leash on a child is actually a kind and loving act, as it helps to insure survival.DIstance77 posted...bigblu89 posted...
I think you're a lone on an island on this one.
I've been watching wrestling for nearly 35 years now, and there's very little they can show or say now in this PG era that I'd find offensive.
Someone mentioned it before, but I think you missed the general point that "the kid belongs on a leash" is more of a saying than Graves thinking the kids deserve to be treated like dogs. To "put you kid on a leash" is just another way of saying that you can't control your kid.
I truly feel you're over-thinking this.
I'm not over-thinking anything. What Graves said was completely and utterly inappropriate.
I'm sorry but saying that somebody kids need to be put on a leash is not something that you just say.
Dogs are put on leashes, not HUMAN FREAKIN BEINGS. Saying that somebody kids "BELONG" on a leash is exactly like saying that they deserve to be treated like a dog. (Since we know that Dogs are put on a leash, around their neck)
Sorry but leashes DO NOT under ANY circumstances BELONG on children. . . PERIOD.
For f***s sake, I tried to be rational here.
He wasn't saying that they physically belong on leashes like a dogs. It's a God damn figure of speech. In kayfabe, Slater's kids are wild children, and "should be put on leashes" as in "Slater needs to do a better job at keeping his kids under control".
When JR said someone was being "beaten like a rented mule" he didn't actually condone beating mules. When he said someone was "tougher than a $2 steak" he did mean we should go up to them an try to bite them to see how tough they really are.
IT'S A FIGURE OF SPEECH. It's on you for not knowing that.(edited 5 hours ago)ghettorevival posted...leashed doesn't mean around the throat like a dog
they have kid leashes that strap on like a harness
it's an odd sight but that's a small price to pay for the benefit of not losing a child
Leashes go around the neck
Harnesses are strapped to a child's torso.
Graves said Heath's kids belong on leashes. If you saw somebody "walking their kid" around a supermarket with a leash tied around the child's neck, that's more than odd. That's child abuse. You could snap a child's neck or strangle them by pulling on the leash too hard.KyleKG posted...He was saying they're the kind of kid you'd see at Walmart where the parent has them.on a leash you idiot
I'm not the idiot who said that children belong on leashes. Graves said that. That's what this is about. I would never saw such a crazy inappropriate thing like what Graves said. Not only that, but Graves didn't say it at a bar with a bunch of guys. He said it LIVE ON MONDAY NIGHT RAW IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE FREAKIN COUNTRY.DIstance77 posted...Leashes go around the neck
No. A leash is a unit of tether attached to a harness. Whether it be on the neck or bodyDIstance77 posted...crazy inappropriate thing
If this is the thing that gets you like this, you seriously should just check yourself in for a lobotomy. Or use a leash to hang yourself.
Because life is just jot gonna go your way.DIstance77 posted...ghettorevival posted...
leashed doesn't mean around the throat like a dog
they have kid leashes that strap on like a harness
it's an odd sight but that's a small price to pay for the benefit of not losing a child
Leashes go around the neck
Harnesses are strapped to a child's torso.
Graves said Heath's kids belong on leashes. If you saw somebody "walking their kid" around a supermarket with a leash tied around the child's neck, that's more than odd. That's child abuse. You could snap a child's neck or strangle them by pulling on the leash too hard.
semantics
"leash" comes to mind before "child harness"bigblu89 posted...For f***s sake, I tried to be rational here.
He wasn't saying that they physically belong on leashes like a dogs. It's a God damn figure of speech. In kayfabe, Slater's kids are wild children, and "should be put on leashes" as in "Slater needs to do a better job at keeping his kids under control".
When JR said someone was being "beaten like a rented mule" he didn't actually condone beating mules. When he said someone was "tougher than a $2 steak" he did mean we should go up to them an try to bite them to see how tough they really are.
IT'S A FIGURE OF SPEECH. It's on you for not knowing that.
Comparing this to JR saying he was beaten like a mule is just prepopsterous, and by the way JR would say like a "Government mule" just to be accurate. Also mules are an animal, and it's perfectly normal to liken wrestlers to animals. The term Government Mule also isn't exactly related to the animal, but more as a term that is used to describe someone that is used as a tool for the government. So the way JR used that term is more of a way to say how the government beats everyday people up by how it operates, rather than a derogatory term for a physical mule getting beat up. It's called nuance. There's no comparison between being beaten like a government mule, which everyone can relate to, vs making a joke as to say that children belong on a leash.
You're trying to equate the two, which is just completely ridiculous. Saying something about children has a higher level of sensitivity than saying something about adults fighting in a wrestling ring for comic affect.
I also take exception to your characterization of Graves comment. Specifically, there was nothing to indicate that Heath's children were "wild or unruly or out of control kids". In fact, there was an episode in the past where WWE featured these 7 kids and they weren't depicted as wild or crazy or out of control at all. So again it doesn't even make sense in terms of way that WWE has characterized these kayfabe kids in the past. At the brand extension, the gimmick had to do with the fact that Heath had 7 kids, that he had all these kids to support, that he needed THIS JOB to support the kids. There was never any indication that his kayfabe kids were wild crazy or out of control. Once again, you are saying this to somehow excuse or explain Graves comment.
When these kids were on WWE TV, they appeared to be well mannered, in control, happy kids. Not kids that were out of control who needed to be on leashes.DIstance77 posted...When these kids were on WWE TV, they appeared to be well mannered, in control, happy kids. Not kids that were out of control who needed to be on leashes.
Which is exactly why Graves, ACTING AS A HEEL, said what he said.
It's a figure of speech that you are taking WAY too literal.KyleKG posted...DIstance77 posted...
Leashes go around the neck
No. A leash is a unit of tether attached to a harness. Whether it be on the neck or body
leash :
noun, a strap or cord for restraining and guiding a dog or other animal.
verb, put a leash on (a dog)
leash : noun (via www.merriam-webster.com)
a : a line for leading or restraining an animal
b : something that restrains : the state of being restrainedGuys, clearly Graves was saying his kids should be choked while being dragged around with a collar around their neck, while also doing his chores and being his slaves... POSSIBLY SEX SLAVES.
GRAVES WAS VINDICATING CHILD MOLESTATION, SICK.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingDIstance77 posted...EffectAndCause posted...
Kids should be on leashes and have muzzles IMO.
Wow, it's scary to see how many of you believe that kids should basically be enslaved, put on leashes, muzzles, I mean jesus christ what's kind of a world do you want to live in? Who in their right mind would argue that kids should be put on leashes, muzzles, etc. This isn't funny, like seriously WTF is wrong with you.
Big serial killers come from little serial killers, they need to be dominated into submission from the beginning.bigblu89 posted...Which is exactly why Graves, ACTING AS A HEEL, said what he said.
It's a figure of speech that you are taking WAY too literal.
It was an attempt to act as a heel alright, only it came out wrong and highly awkward. It was followed by 15 seconds of silence from Cole and Booker T. It was definitely a WTF moment. Again, he could have made a heelish comment without going as far to say that children belong on leashes. That was just weird, and it came across as weird. And anyone who is apologizing for Graves or is making that argument that kids should be on leashes or muzzles needs to have their heads examined.DIstance77 posted...bigblu89 posted...
Which is exactly why Graves, ACTING AS A HEEL, said what he said.
It's a figure of speech that you are taking WAY too literal.
It was an attempt to act as a heel alright, only it came out wrong and highly awkward. It was followed by 15 seconds of silence from Cole and Booker T. It was definitely a WTF moment. Again, he could have made a heelish comment without going as far to say that children belong on leashes. That was just weird, and it came across as weird. And anyone who is apologizing for Graves or is making that argument that kids should be on leashes or muzzles needs to have their heads examined.
Well, the guys that are saying kids deserve to be on leashes are doing it just to get you riled up.
And not that I've been on every wrestling site since last night, but I've checked a few, and this is the only site I've seen anyone make mention of it, so if it offended you, you're definitely in the minority.TrulyEpicLawls posted...Guys, clearly Graves was saying his kids should be choked while being dragged around with a collar around their neck, while also doing his chores and being his slaves... POSSIBLY SEX SLAVES.
GRAVES WAS VINDICATING CHILD MOLESTATION, SICK.
You're attempting to exaggerate what he said, but where you went with that is exactly why it was so inappropriate to say that Live on Monday Night Raw.
It is not socially acceptable to say that children belong on leashes, especially on on Monday Night Raw. Period. Plenty of child abusers probably think it's normal to drag kids around by their neck or leashes or lock kids in cages. And that sort of inappropriate visual imagery should not be made by commentators on a family friendly kid-friendly "PG" wrestling show.DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...
Guys, clearly Graves was saying his kids should be choked while being dragged around with a collar around their neck, while also doing his chores and being his slaves... POSSIBLY SEX SLAVES.
GRAVES WAS VINDICATING CHILD MOLESTATION, SICK.
You're attempting to exaggerate what he said, but where you went with that is exactly why it was so inappropriate to say that Live on Monday Night Raw.
It is not socially acceptable to say that children belong on leashes, especially on on Monday Night Raw. Period. Plenty of child abusers probably think it's normal to drag kids around by their neck or leashes or lock kids in cages. And that sort of inappropriate visual imagery should not be made by commentators on a family friendly kid-friendly "PG" wrestling show.
But it's ok to push a man so he hits into his wife, throwing her from the ring apron through a table?bigblu89 posted...Well, the guys that are saying kids deserve to be on leashes are doing it just to get you riled up.
And not that I've been on every wrestling site since last night, but I've checked a few, and this is the only site I've seen anyone make mention of it, so if it offended you, you're definitely in the minority.
I'm glad to be in the minority of those who don't think that kids belong on leashes. Again, keep in mind, that I'm not the one who made the statement that Graves did live on Monday Night Raw. I'm also not of the belief that such a comment was in the script. I'd be willing to bet that Vince McMahon heard that and cringed just like I did and I wouldn't be surprised if he or any WWE higher ups sat him aside and addressed it after the show.
The fact that nobody else brought it up on other message boards isn't exactly surprising, because first of all a lot of people like Graves (including myself) and don't want to make a big deal out of it. Probably didn't think too much of it. But I can tell you that that comment AND the preceding segment did rub me the wrong way and definitely got my attention, I paused the DVR created a thread about it to see how others would react to it.
I don't think Graves did it to get me or anyone else riled up. I think it was a slip of the tongue by Graves, an attempt to be funny but not realizing how poorly it came off.Since this apparently offends you so much....
It's funny cause the dogs think they're dogs.Opportunities multiply as they are seized. - Sun Tzubigblu89 posted...But it's ok to push a man so he hits into his wife, throwing her from the ring apron through a table?
If you're talking about the Roman Reigns, Rusev and Lana wedding segment, that's much more light hearted and genuinely funny than saying that kids belong on leashes. How can you seriously compare the two???
WWE has a history of making fun of weddings going from bad to worse, from Test and Stephanie to that. There's nothing wrong or controversial about that. Again, we're talking about KIDS belonging on LEASHES. Not kayfabe weddings and Lana's face going into the wedding cake. I mean come on man, stop making excuses for Graves, or trying to liken this to a WWE Wedding!DIstance77 posted...bigblu89 posted...
But it's ok to push a man so he hits into his wife, throwing her from the ring apron through a table?
If you're talking about the Roman Reigns, Rusev and Lana wedding segment, that's much more light hearted and genuinely funny than saying that kids belong on leashes. How can you seriously compare the two???
WWE has a history of making fun of weddings going from bad to worse, from Test and Stephanie to that. There's nothing wrong or controversial about that. Again, we're talking about KIDS belonging on LEASHES. Not kayfabe weddings and Lana's face going into the wedding cake. I mean come on man, stop making excuses for Graves, or trying to liken this to a WWE Wedding!
No, I'm talking about Rollins pushing HHH into Steph at WM causing her to go through a table.
So jokingly, as a heel, saying someone's kids are unruly is offensive, but actual physical harm on a woman is ok.
Once again it's a god damn figure of speech, not to be taken literally.what a puss topic.KingHova045 posted...Since this apparently offends you so much....
It's funny cause the dogs think they're dogs.
It doesn't offend me at all. First of all those are child harnesses, not leashes. Leashes go around the neck, and are for dogs, whereas harnesses like the ones in the pictures keep kids from running away. It's the insinuation that children "belong" on leashes that came across as wrong and awkward.
Again, I'm not offended by any parent who uses a harness to keep their kid out of danger on a street or in a super market. Personally I don't think kids that young should be walking around on their own, so I understand the purpose of a harness in a situation like that, however kids that young should probably be in a stroller rather than on a leash. Some parents may use the harness on very young children in certain situations, but that doesn't mean it's normal or an acceptable way to parent. That's completely different than saying that Heath's kids "belong" on leashes. It's what he said and how he said it that was inappropriate. Keep in mind that Heath's kayfabe kids, some of them were a lot older than toddlers. The idea that those older kids who appeared on WWE TV a while back belong on a leash is seriously messed up man.(edited 4 hours ago)DIstance77 posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...
Guys, clearly Graves was saying his kids should be choked while being dragged around with a collar around their neck, while also doing his chores and being his slaves... POSSIBLY SEX SLAVES.
GRAVES WAS VINDICATING CHILD MOLESTATION, SICK.
You're attempting to exaggerate what he said, but where you went with that is exactly why it was so inappropriate to say that Live on Monday Night Raw.
It is not socially acceptable to say that children belong on leashes, especially on on Monday Night Raw. Period. Plenty of child abusers probably think it's normal to drag kids around by their neck or leashes or lock kids in cages. And that sort of inappropriate visual imagery should not be made by commentators on a family friendly kid-friendly "PG" wrestling show.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA why are you actually agreeing?????? AHAHAHAHAHAHA I LEGIT 'LOL'ED THAT'S GREAT
CAPSArgument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingbigblu89 posted...No, I'm talking about Rollins pushing HHH into Steph at WM causing her to go through a table.
So jokingly, as a heel, saying someone's kids are unruly is offensive, but actual physical harm on a woman is ok.
Once again it's a god damn figure of speech, not to be taken literally.
OK but how can you compare the two? Seeing Steph go through a table is funny. She's an adult, participating in a kayfabe storyline. We're talking about a WWE commentator saying that a wrestler's kids "belong on a leash". Two completely different things.Ok. I'm done.Wait so now you're arguing about semantics? LolOpportunities multiply as they are seized. - Sun Tzu- Boards
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