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That game series that has a mode called zombies lol
Because apparently female soldiers in a WW2 game is historically inaccurate, but zombies and ray guns are A-Ok. By the way, that's ignoring the fact that the multiplayer mode of the game is not meant to be historically accurate to begin with. |
Especially a specific game mode that has little basis in history, besides weapons (which are cross faction) and places.
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faizan_faizan posted...
It also has them in the campaign. It harms its authenticity, in my opinion. I would agree. Not only is it not enough to send us back to WW2 when I'm thoroughly done with it as a video game setting but they're using revisionist history. If it took until the 2010s to accept women in the service at the frontline, it sure as hell wouldn't have been a thing in the 1940s.
People say "mixed reception" to damage control negativity.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Solid Sonic posted...it sure as hell wouldn't have been a thing in the 1940s. pot, kettle |
Samurontai posted...
That game series that has a mode called zombies lol People don't care about realism until it starts to harm their narrative. |
Solid Sonic posted...
faizan_faizan posted...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_women_in_World_War_IIIt also has them in the campaign. It harms its authenticity, in my opinion.
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Vertania posted...
Or maybe a non-US army allowed female combatants, but I doubt it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roza_Shanina
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Vertania posted...
Doesn't bother me that much for multiplayer, but it'd be f***ing stupid in campaign. The only way it would make sense to see a female combatant is if she's a medic who happens to pick up a gun or something. Or maybe a non-US army allowed female combatants, but I doubt it. are you literate? |
Are COD games typically known for their historical accuracy?
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Fact: women and minorities didn't exist until 1964
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eston posted...
Are COD games typically known for their historical accuracy? I mean, if they really wanted to complain about being historical accurate they'd be complaining about how you're given a bunch of automatic weapons that were stupidly rare instead of the much more common bolt action rifles
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Edgemaster97 posted...
Who's mad?
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tfw women would be far more superior soldiers but the patriarchy keeps them from fighting
then again if we were in a matriarchy there wouldn't be any war lol |
No one said anything this b**** being in the Medal of Honor games.
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Edgemaster97 posted...
Who's mad? Polygon, but it was their usual clickbait crap that they probably don't even believe in.
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TheSextMachine posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...The irony is that the first console CoD (Finest Hour) had you playing as a female Russian sniper, so this is literally not the first time this has been done She was in the Red Army and I think her character was based off a real person too. |
Steelix500 posted...
I'd have a problem if there are female combatants in the US Army and Wehrmacht. As far as I know there were none in WW2. Iirc, they were also in the Nazi German army, just weren't very numerous. They were frequent in the Red Army (but again, not to an extreme) To everyone saying "B...but there weren't any women who fought in WW2!" Kindly shut the f*** up and pick up a history book. |
Vertania posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...Oh so you just wanted to give your opinion on a subject you know nothing about in true internet fashion. They were in the german army as well, as Auxiliaries in Paris, and were also used as guards in various concentration camps. |
I don't mind French Resistance, Soviet, or later on Germans in Europe being women in combat.
And showing viewpoints that aren't done much is cool. And I wish BF1 actually did this by showing how the US treated black regiments in WW1 and how the French were the ones using them instead of having the troops integrated in the multiplayer. Having American soldiers as women would be stupid. The "there are zombies in the game so everything else about the game can throughout into full fiction" is a ridiculous argument. Why not have the Nazis look like Whoopi Goldberg, why not have the Emperor of Japan be a transformer who lives on the surface of the sun, and so on. There's no logic in that argument.
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The_Ivory_Man posted...
I don't mind French Resistance, Soviet, or later on Germans in Europe being women in combat. There is logic in that argument because I was talking about the Multiplayer specifically, which typically never had a basis in reality beyond certain characteristics. |
"There were women in combat in some factions in very sparse, specific instances so that means it's not historically inaccurate to see 50% of players choosing female characters".
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
You don't need maybe with a historical fact dude. Maybe pick up a history book before calling it f***ing stupid. I was picturing playing as a U.S. soldier and having female combatants fighting alongside. Which would be f***ing stupid. I should have been more specific. Samurontai posted... They were in the german army as well, as Auxiliaries in Paris, and were also used as guards in various concentration camps. We probably won't see them in the game though. I really doubt CoD would have us play as any Axis characters and I get the feeling they'd be afraid of having us shoot females in the campaign too. |
weapon_d00d816 posted...
"There were women in combat in some factions in very sparse, specific instances so that means it's not historically inaccurate to see 50% of players choosing female characters". Nobody said this lmao You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol chill02 posted... if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power Exactly Vertania posted... Broseph_Stalin posted...You don't need maybe with a historical fact dude. Maybe pick up a history book before calling it f***ing stupid. Maybe, it'd be nice to see a change though. |
TheSextMachine posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...The irony is that the first console CoD (Finest Hour) had you playing as a female Russian sniper, so this is literally not the first time this has been done http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Tanya_Pavelovna Resistance turned Red Army.
You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?
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chill02 posted...
if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power The fact that the best gun in World At War was an uncommon submachine gun should say a lot
You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah?
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Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions. I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao
You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol
People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions.
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
Because there's a pretty hefty difference between the renownly ahistorical multiplayer and the more historical single player, which is something that carries across to basically... I don't know.... nearly every game in existence?
chill02 posted...if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power
This post says it best. Multiplayer is not meant to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.Menardi posted...Imagine getting mad about a COD game.
I like gender segregation in video games. When I play RPGs, my party is always all men if I can control it. I'd love to see more games that only have all men so that myself and many others like me can have a better gaming experience. And of course, there should be more game with just women so that women who are like me (but a woman) can have a better gaming experience with them.God bless you.fenderbender321 posted...I like gender segregation in video games. When I play RPGs, my party is always all men if I can control it. I'd love to see more games that only have all men so that myself and many others like me can have a better gaming experience. And of course, there should be more game with just women so that women who are like me (but a woman) can have a better gaming experience with them.
Nobody caresBroseph_Stalin posted...weapon_d00d816 posted...
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
yeah that's usually your problem
Extremely predictable post.SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlGI mean, multiplayer modes will usually throw canon or historical accuracy out the window for the sake of fun
There's nothing stopping you from having a lobby in Forza full of Pagani Zonda Cinques, even though literally only 5 of them exist and they're all in a showroom in Hong Kong
now if it was a single player campaign full of American women fighting in the frontlines then I could understand the complaints, unless they're doing some alternate history thing like in WolfensteinAve, true to Caesar.Samurontai posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...
I don't mind French Resistance, Soviet, or later on Germans in Europe being women in combat.
And showing viewpoints that aren't done much is cool.
And I wish BF1 actually did this by showing how the US treated black regiments in WW1 and how the French were the ones using them instead of having the troops integrated in the multiplayer.
Having American soldiers as women would be stupid.
The "there are zombies in the game so everything else about the game can throughout into full fiction" is a ridiculous argument.
Why not have the Nazis look like Whoopi Goldberg, why not have the Emperor of Japan be a transformer who lives on the surface of the sun, and so on. There's no logic in that argument.
There is logic in that argument because I was talking about the Multiplayer specifically, which typically never had a basis in reality beyond certain characteristics.
There aren't zombies in the multiplayer as well.
It's a separate game mode.
And Saving Private Ryan doesn't have any real basis in reality aside from taking place in WW2, does that mean criticism can't occur over errors in what it does because it's fiction?"Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - ShojikanSamurontai posted...weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao
You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol
People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions.
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
Because there's a pretty hefty difference between the renownly ahistorical multiplayer and the more historical single player, which is something that carries across to basically... I don't know.... nearly every game in existence?
chill02 posted...if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power
This post says it best. Multiplayer is not meant to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.
The multiplayer is still supposed to feel like WWII despite taking liberties for the sake of gameplay. Having an abundance of female soldiers would feel incredibly off.SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlGBut then the question is how many CoD players will pick female soldiers online, and I have no clue because I haven't played them.
All I know is Ghosts has them, so if you can find stats for that it should give you an idea, but my wild guess is that lobbies generally don't look like an Amazon brigadeAve, true to Caesar.The_Ivory_Man posted...Samurontai posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...
I don't mind French Resistance, Soviet, or later on Germans in Europe being women in combat.
And showing viewpoints that aren't done much is cool.
And I wish BF1 actually did this by showing how the US treated black regiments in WW1 and how the French were the ones using them instead of having the troops integrated in the multiplayer.
Having American soldiers as women would be stupid.
The "there are zombies in the game so everything else about the game can throughout into full fiction" is a ridiculous argument.
Why not have the Nazis look like Whoopi Goldberg, why not have the Emperor of Japan be a transformer who lives on the surface of the sun, and so on. There's no logic in that argument.
There is logic in that argument because I was talking about the Multiplayer specifically, which typically never had a basis in reality beyond certain characteristics.
There aren't zombies in the multiplayer as well.
It's a separate game mode.
And Saving Private Ryan doesn't have any real basis in reality aside from taking place in WW2, does that mean criticism can't occur over errors in what it does because it's fiction?
Zombies is a multiplayer game mode.
You're trying too hard to find an argument where there isn't oneweapon_d00d816 posted...Samurontai posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao
You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol
People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions.
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
Because there's a pretty hefty difference between the renownly ahistorical multiplayer and the more historical single player, which is something that carries across to basically... I don't know.... nearly every game in existence?
chill02 posted...if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power
This post says it best. Multiplayer is not meant to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.
The multiplayer is still supposed to feel like WWII despite taking liberties for the sake of gameplay. Having an abundance of female soldiers would feel incredibly off.
Then they better only allow faction specific weapons, only a certain amount of snipers, and only a select few fully automatic weaponry.
Broseph_Stalin posted...people actually think single player campaigns are historically accurate
like what little they think they know about history comes from video games
amazing
Nobody said this. It's more historically accurate than the multiplayer is, which isn't supposed to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.Samurontai posted...weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao
You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol
People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions.
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
Because there's a pretty hefty difference between the renownly ahistorical multiplayer and the more historical single player, which is something that carries across to basically... I don't know.... nearly every game in existence?
chill02 posted...if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power
This post says it best. Multiplayer is not meant to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.
The multiplayer is still supposed to feel like WWII despite taking liberties for the sake of gameplay. Having an abundance of female soldiers would feel incredibly off.
Then they better only allow faction specific weapons, only a certain amount of snipers, and only a select few fully automatic weaponry.
I would prefer faction-specific weaponry but unfortunately there are too many people who would whine about not being able to use their MP40 all the time.
It also isn't necessary to be that realistic to feel like WWII. Freedom of weaponry feels like CoD, and since you're playing CoD, it doesn't take you out of the experience. You're experiencing WWII through a CoD multiplayer filter. Having an abundance of female combatants feels like neither.SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlGweapon_d00d816 posted...Samurontai posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Nobody said this lmao
You're dumber than a f***ing rock sometimes I swear lol
People implied it by constantly going on about all these little specific exceptions.
I can't see how that could possibly be construed as a dumb statement.
Because there's a pretty hefty difference between the renownly ahistorical multiplayer and the more historical single player, which is something that carries across to basically... I don't know.... nearly every game in existence?
chill02 posted...if we're talking strictly about multiplayer, there's still the issue with the abundance of, well, anything that's not a bolt action rifle, or the arbitrary gun power
This post says it best. Multiplayer is not meant to be historically accurate beyond a few characteristics.
The multiplayer is still supposed to feel like WWII despite taking liberties for the sake of gameplay. Having an abundance of female soldiers would feel incredibly off.
Then they better only allow faction specific weapons, only a certain amount of snipers, and only a select few fully automatic weaponry.
I would prefer faction-specific weaponry but unfortunately there are too many people who would whine about not being able to use their MP40 all the time.
It also isn't necessary to be that realistic to feel like WWII. Freedom of weaponry feels like CoD, and since you're playing CoD, it doesn't take you out of the experience. You're experiencing WWII through a CoD multiplayer filter. Having an abundance of female combatants feels like neither.
1) who said there would be an abundance of female combatants? The last COD game I played, to be fair, was Ghost, but even then there weren't very many female soldiers running around.
2) female soldiers is part of the COD filter.Samurontai posted...fenderbender321 posted...
I like gender segregation in video games. When I play RPGs, my party is always all men if I can control it. I'd love to see more games that only have all men so that myself and many others like me can have a better gaming experience. And of course, there should be more game with just women so that women who are like me (but a woman) can have a better gaming experience with them.
Nobody cares
And nobody cares that you think nobody cares. And before you say it, yes, I realize nobody cares that I pointed out that nobody cares that you said nobody cares.God bless you.Samurontai posted...
1) who said there would be an abundance of female combatants? The last COD game I played, to be fair, was Ghost, but even then there weren't very many female soldiers running around.
2) female soldiers is part of the COD filter.
People choose female character models in a lot of shooters for the smaller silhouette. I haven't played CoD in a long time, but in most shooters there tends to be at least one-third of the lobby playing females when possible.
Regardless of whether female soldiers feel like CoD or not, it clashes too heavily with feeling like WWII.SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlGweapon_d00d816 posted...Samurontai posted...
1) who said there would be an abundance of female combatants? The last COD game I played, to be fair, was Ghost, but even then there weren't very many female soldiers running around.
2) female soldiers is part of the COD filter.
People choose female character models in a lot of shooters for the smaller silhouette. I haven't played CoD in a long time, but in most shooters there tends to be at least one-third of the lobby playing females when possible.
Regardless of whether female soldiers feel like CoD or not, it clashes too heavily with feeling like WWII.
The same could be said for the automatic weaponry as well.
You can't pick and choose. Female soldiers are just as much a part of COD now as the weapons.
Maeiv posted...I feel like the idea of gunning down female combatants would be unnerving to the political left
Pretty sure nobody would care though. You can literally stick a sword straight down the spine of female soldiers in For Honor.Samurontai posted...weapon_d00d816 posted...
Samurontai posted...
1) who said there would be an abundance of female combatants? The last COD game I played, to be fair, was Ghost, but even then there weren't very many female soldiers running around.
2) female soldiers is part of the COD filter.
People choose female character models in a lot of shooters for the smaller silhouette. I haven't played CoD in a long time, but in most shooters there tends to be at least one-third of the lobby playing females when possible.
Regardless of whether female soldiers feel like CoD or not, it clashes too heavily with feeling like WWII.
The same could be said for the automatic weaponry as well.
You can't pick and choose. Female soldiers are just as much a part of COD now as the weapons.
They provide absolutely nothing to the gameplay.SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlGThey also don't take anything away from the gameplay- Boards
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